wideband A/F, which one?

[FJB2069]

IF you like the FAST unit you may want to take a look at Altronics O2ALERT. www.altronicsinc.com

Has dual wideband capability along with RPM, EGT, and additional inputs for Fuel, Boost , Nos, TP etc.

Built in warning output allows for Lean Out notification and can used to control timing, retard, boost, etc.

Samples at 100 Sample/Sec, about 10 times faster then FAST.

Allows for complete playback on unit or download to PC.

[Turbo Hen]

When you making definitive statements about a particular products cost or worth, don't you think it would be a good idea to know exactly what product you are talking about?

Andrew

What is this....are you trying to bash me or make me out to be someone who doesnt know what they're talking about?

I've been around this game a few years, and was trying to share what I've heard from other on the FAST EFI systems...my intent was to help.

I corrected myself in the post above.

Don't try & make yourself look like a hero.

-Carm

[andrewb70]

What is this....are you trying to bash me or make me out to be someone who doesnt know what they're talking about?

I've been around this game a few years, and was trying to share what I've heard from other on the FAST EFI systems...my intent was to help.

I corrected myself in the post above.

Don't try & make yourself look like a hero.

-Carm

I am not bashing, nor do I care to be a hero. I do care that accurate information is presented when possible. Your posts sounded vague at best so I was trying to get a clarification. Nothing more, nothing less.

Have a great day.

Andrew

[andrewb70]

Accel DFI VII wideband (NTK) sensor only at Summit:

http://store.summitracing.com/egnsea...DS=1&N=700+115

$520 OUCH!

FAST wideband (NTK) sensor only to use with the XFI:

http://www.compperformancegroupstore...Category_Code=

$395 not bad, probably less through a dealer.

FAST replacement wideband (Bosch) sensor to use with the new dual controller:

http://www.compperformancegroupstore...ry_Code=AFCOMP

$120 much less money, probably less through a dealer.

No heroism, just trying to make sure the information on the forum is factual and not based on hearsay.

Andrew

[Turbo Hen]

Alright, sounds good. I took it the wrong way.

-Carm

[andrewb70]

Alright, sounds good. I took it the wrong way.

-Carm

No worries...

Andrew

[OHCbird]

I have the Innovative LSU 4 on my supercharged 93 4 Runner, and have had zero probs with it. The XD-16 kit is easy to use. I haven't experienced many sensor failures due solely to the sensor itself; most come from contaminents (leaded gas, water, sealants- you name it), or heat-kills on turbo's that come from a lack of a heat sink when the sensor is too close to the turbine housing, or just plain can't shed the heat quick enough.

Proper care + smart install usually leads to long sensor life.

[andrewb70]

I have the Innovative LSU 4 on my supercharged 93 4 Runner, and have had zero probs with it. The XD-16 kit is easy to use. I haven't experienced many sensor failures due solely to the sensor itself; most come from contaminents (leaded gas, water, sealants- you name it), or heat-kills on turbo's that come from a lack of a heat sink when the sensor is too close to the turbine housing, or just plain can't shed the heat quick enough.

Proper care + smart install usually leads to long sensor life.

Well said and agreed!

Andrew

[Y-TRY]

If you want to spend less money and just keep an eye on your A/F I really like the AEM UEGO guage. The carb doesn't give you enough tune-on-the-fly anyway. Great gauge to use to set it up and leave it. Using this gauge while also reading on the dyno and it is super consistent and within .01 of what the dyno reads.

Under $300 on ebay.

[OHCbird]

Accel now has a dual wideband controller that can use the Bosch or NTK sensors. I believe it comes as a single kit (with data-logging capability) for $399 retail. I'm sure you can find it cheaper if you're crafty. Best part- It has the best resolution & response time of all the controllers.

[kmcanally]

On a single sensor system would it be ideal to install in the X-pipe junction?

[OHCbird]

Yes- it would get a maximized sampling of all your exhaust pulses. This would improved signal 'averaging' to your controller. Not optimum, but the best in that situation.