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    1. #1
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      Tru Turn with Hooker Blackheart long tubes

      Hey guys,
      looking to see if anyone has recent experience with this. Iím trying to figure out whether the current Tru Turn system from ridetech will work with the latest Blackheart long tube headers.



      I have the complete Holley/Hooker swap kit (engine mount adaptors, trans crossmember, headers) for my LS427/magnum swap. Also have the ridetech coil overs and tall spindles going in. While I havenít test fitted anything yet, Iím guessing Iíll have steering arm issues without the Tru Turn. So now Iím trying to figure out if the Tru Turn will work with the headers I have. Iíd really prefer to keep the long tubes, as opposed to swapping them for mid-lengths or whatever.

      Ive reached out to Josh @ Ridetech, but havenít heard back. I never get a response from the ď[email protected]Ē email address, so Iím not sure whatís up with that. Most of the threads on this Iíve found are older, and both Holley and Ridetech have updated their designs over the years. Makes it hard to figure out.

      thanks
      Andy

      1967 Camaro RS
      Magnacharged LS1/T56
      543 rwhp, 516 rwtq
      Sold

      1968 Firebird
      LS427/570 and T56 Magnum
      swap in progress




    2. #2
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      I think you will have to fit everything and run it through the full travel to completely know. Every combination is slightly different.

      I have the older bolt on Tru-Turn set up and it is tight, but fits on my setup. Here is my combination:
      Frame - stock 69
      Engine - LS with a modified GM dry sump setup (LSA block), Speedtech dry sump pan. Black Hook 1 7/8" long tube headershttps://www.holley.com/products/exha.../70101508-1HKR

      I am also using the Holley/Blackhook swap setup and everything fits fine.

      Stock type steering box (rear steer)

      The most difficult part for me was routing the dry sump lines. Once I figured that out everything was ok.
      1969 Camaro (Small Tyre Restomod/mild Protour) 245/40/18 F, 275/35/18 R, stock frame, full Ridetech suspension, LS engine, T56 Mag, Wilwood Brakes. A driver car.

    3. #3
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      That’s a bummer, but that’s how it goes sometimes. Maybe I’ll get a response from ridetech one of these days. I don’t know what’s up with their customer service. I’m guessing my stock steering arms won’t clear the wheels without the Tru Turn. Didn’t realize this was an issue when I bought the spindles/LCAs/coil overs.
      Andy

      1967 Camaro RS
      Magnacharged LS1/T56
      543 rwhp, 516 rwtq
      Sold

      1968 Firebird
      LS427/570 and T56 Magnum
      swap in progress



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      From what I have read the headers were changed to work with the 1gen bolt on of tru turn setup, when the tru turn was changed to 2gen aka new drag link. The long tube headers hit now.
      1970 Elcamino ls3/t56, ricks/vaporworx, sc&c afx ,forgeline zx3, kore3 z51/ls1
      1969 Camaro ls1/t56, ricks/vaporworx, ride-tech,forgeline ga3,
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      Yes, that seems to be the case from the reading I’ve done. Todd (Toddoky) told me he didn’t think Holley ever changed the headers to work with the newer forged center link. He was one of the engineers that worked on the Holley swap kit. I’ll see what ridetech says if I can ever get a response from them.

      So next question: Anyone know if the Blackheart mid length headers work with the newer Tru Turn?
      Andy

      1967 Camaro RS
      Magnacharged LS1/T56
      543 rwhp, 516 rwtq
      Sold

      1968 Firebird
      LS427/570 and T56 Magnum
      swap in progress



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      I ran these headers on my old set up, Stock sub frame with Track 1 stuff. And they fit. They are for sale too
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      Quote Originally Posted by Bad94 View Post
      I ran these headers on my old set up, Stock sub frame with Track 1 stuff. And they fit. They are for sale too
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      What headers are those, and did they work with the Tru Turn with the forged center link?
      Andy

      1967 Camaro RS
      Magnacharged LS1/T56
      543 rwhp, 516 rwtq
      Sold

      1968 Firebird
      LS427/570 and T56 Magnum
      swap in progress



    8. #8
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      Ultimate longtubes will work with the 2nd ridetech design.

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      Quote Originally Posted by KnightmareZ View Post
      Ultimate longtubes will work with the 2nd ridetech design.
      I’ve heard of the brand, but have no experience with them. You’re saying they should work with the Holley swap system AND newer center link design? Any info is appreciated.

      Edit: with a little searching I see ridetech sells these and mentions Tru Turn compatibility. If they ever decide to get back to me, maybe I can confirm with them.
      Andy

      1967 Camaro RS
      Magnacharged LS1/T56
      543 rwhp, 516 rwtq
      Sold

      1968 Firebird
      LS427/570 and T56 Magnum
      swap in progress



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      Quote Originally Posted by streetk14 View Post
      What headers are those, and did they work with the Tru Turn with the forged center link?
      Yes they did. They were the Hooker super comp ones, before the BlackHeart label.
      1972 Nova Ridetech, Forgeline, Falken Tires, Wilwood, Bowler Performance Transmission, Lingenfelter Performance Engineering.

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      I am running LS3 with all Holley swap parts, motor mounts, trans X-member, 302-3 oil pan, Hooker 1-7/8 Long Tubes and all ridetech w/ new forged link. Everything cleared fine with the bolt on previous model, but mid-build we upgraded to teh new link when it came out.

      The inner tie rod end will hit #1 cylinder header pipe when turning to full lock. Since I found this out after everything was already installed, torqued, etc.... I choose the simple method..... Heat it up red hot, piece of pipe and a nice hammer will get a nice dimple to allow clearance.

      One day I will get around to pulling the header off and cutting the section, moving and rewelding, but honestly the only one who knows about the dimple is me since it underneath and not seen.

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      Quote Originally Posted by plick1221 View Post
      I am running LS3 with all Holley swap parts, motor mounts, trans X-member, 302-3 oil pan, Hooker 1-7/8 Long Tubes and all ridetech w/ new forged link. Everything cleared fine with the bolt on previous model, but mid-build we upgraded to teh new link when it came out.

      The inner tie rod end will hit #1 cylinder header pipe when turning to full lock. Since I found this out after everything was already installed, torqued, etc.... I choose the simple method..... Heat it up red hot, piece of pipe and a nice hammer will get a nice dimple to allow clearance.

      One day I will get around to pulling the header off and cutting the section, moving and rewelding, but honestly the only one who knows about the dimple is me since it underneath and not seen.
      Thanks for the info. Are those the clamshell Hooker mounts and Blackheart headers (part number 70101308-RHKR) ? No issues with the passenger side header?
      Andy

      1967 Camaro RS
      Magnacharged LS1/T56
      543 rwhp, 516 rwtq
      Sold

      1968 Firebird
      LS427/570 and T56 Magnum
      swap in progress



    13. #13
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      Quote Originally Posted by streetk14 View Post
      Iíve heard of the brand, but have no experience with them. Youíre saying they should work with the Holley swap system AND newer center link design? Any info is appreciated.

      Edit: with a little searching I see ridetech sells these and mentions Tru Turn compatibility. If they ever decide to get back to me, maybe I can confirm with them.
      Hi. I just installed the ridetech truturn on my 1969 Camaro with an LS3 and long tube Ultimate Headers. The truturn clears the headers.

      Tyler

    14. #14
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      Here is my combo, not sure it will help you but, 1969 Camaro stock subrame, Turn One Steering box, ridetech coilovers, Spindle and TruTurn (v2), LS3/T56, Speedtech/ATS engine mounts, engine stands, transmission mount and Speedtech/Stainless Works header, MAST Oil Pan and Holley Front High Mount ACC drive. Everything clears. No contact from the headers to anything. Closes part is the Idler Arm with about 3/8" clearance. Without the outer tie-rods connected I hit the pan on both sides with the drag link. With the outer tie-rods connected I have about 1/4-3/8" before contacting the pan on either side.




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      Thanks for the feedback, guys. I have a set of Ultimate headers on the way. Engine and Tru Turn system are all installed. So far I’m pleasantly surprised with clearances with my combo (Mast pan, Holley clamshell mounts/crossmember). Other than the shifter opening, no tunnel surgery was needed to fit the T56 Magnum. Guess I’ll see how it goes once the headers show up.
      Andy

      1967 Camaro RS
      Magnacharged LS1/T56
      543 rwhp, 516 rwtq
      Sold

      1968 Firebird
      LS427/570 and T56 Magnum
      swap in progress