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    1. #1
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      Eliminate LS rasp

      Just got my swap on the road.

      hooker blackheart 3” stainless ls swap exhaust with x-pipe.

      sounds great at idle but around 2500rpm there is a really annoying raspyness to the sound.

      Any suggestions how to eliminate this? Replace x pipe with H pipe? High flow cats? Resonators? Different mufflers?

      I am ok if the sound is a little quieter but it really sounds like a civic with a v8 sometimes.

    2. #2
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      Quote Originally Posted by sdubfid View Post
      Just got my swap on the road.

      hooker blackheart 3” stainless ls swap exhaust with x-pipe.

      sounds great at idle but around 2500rpm there is a really annoying raspyness to the sound.

      Any suggestions how to eliminate this? Replace x pipe with H pipe? High flow cats? Resonators? Different mufflers?

      I am ok if the sound is a little quieter but it really sounds like a civic with a v8 sometimes.
      Sadly the mufflers that Holley uses in those systems are not the best. Worse yet, they will get louder as time goes on.

      I recently replaced the V304 Hooker mufflers with large case (19 inches) Borla ProXS mufflers and I am very happy.

      Andrew
      1970 GTO Version 3.0
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    3. #3
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      I don’t really get into brands on this subject but I always use and recommend packed mufflers myself. I’m not sure if you have chambered but make sure you have a packed muffler to keep it somewhat quiet (by comparison).

    4. #4
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      Another vote for the Borla ProXS. I took off a pair of Pypes Street Pro's that were very raspy tinny sounding. The Borla's are perfect.

    5. #5
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      After lots of googling and YouTube watching it seems borla pro xs would be a good solution to try. Thanks

    6. #6
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      Installed the borla pro xs 3” today, they are quite a bit heavier than the blackheart mufflers maybe more packing. But they are also much quieter at idle. Snowed today so have gotten a chance to see if the rasp is gone.

    7. #7
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      I think you're going to like those Borlas. If that doesn't completely do it, I'd try replacing the X-pipe with an H-pipe.
      Red Forman: "The Mustang's front end is problematic; get yourself a Firebird."

    8. #8
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      Quote Originally Posted by 68Formula View Post
      I think you're going to like those Borlas. If that doesn't completely do it, I'd try replacing the X-pipe with an H-pipe.
      got it out for a test drive. It is much better but still not there yet. I guess my next options will be h pipe or high flow cats

    9. #9
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      I'm surprised that one brand of straight through perforated core muffler can sound that much different than the same type of muffler by a different brand.

      My SBO has a rasp right around 2,500 - 3,000 RPM as well, mostly when deaccelerating (between gears) and I'm tempted to swap out the Hooker Aerochambers for something else. I really like the way the car sounds, with the exception of the rasp which is right at my cruising shift point.

      Nick ~
      1969 Cutlass

    10. #10
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      On my V I had a Stainless works exhaust with x-pipe in back of American Racing 2" headers and it was OBNOXIOUS. I cut in a pair of 22" Vibrant resonators and that made it sound really good, but still loud. It didn't rasp or drone at all, just kinda loud. I ended up going back to stock mufflers, gutted cats, and 16" Vibrant's. That was quiet until you romped on it. I sold the car with that setup.
      My current build has a 572 in it, so that doesn't count here.
      My latest has a LSA with LS7 manifolds into 3" with an Xpipe and I'm thinking of going with the Borla ProXS too. I don't have much room at all, so resonators might be out. The cats have already been tuned out and gutted, if it's rude, I'll put green cats back in and tune it for them.

    11. #11
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      I have been considering the Holley headers and exhaust setup (for the DSE suspension- on my list of upgrades). What is the difference with/without the resonator? Louder, quieter? Any info would be appreciated.

      https://www.holley.com/products/exha.../705013124RHKR



      VS

      https://www.holley.com/products/exha.../705013109RHKR
      Chris
      1968 Chevy Camaro SS
      LS3/T56 DSE suspension



    12. #12
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      Quote Originally Posted by Mr Nick View Post
      I'm surprised that one brand of straight through perforated core muffler can sound that much different than the same type of muffler by a different brand.

      My SBO has a rasp right around 2,500 - 3,000 RPM as well, mostly when deaccelerating (between gears) and I'm tempted to swap out the Hooker Aerochambers for something else. I really like the way the car sounds, with the exception of the rasp which is right at my cruising shift point.
      this surprised me as well. The Holley vs borla are both the same size straight through 14” mufflers with the borla being significantly quieter/minimizing higher frequencies. In 6th gear I’m at 1500rpm at 60mph and there’s no drone or anything, it’s quite comfortable other than the big hole around my shifter.

    13. #13
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      If y'all check out some of the recent builds done by The Roadster Shop, you will see a heavy use of Borla mufflers, resonators, and J-pipes.

      Andrew
      1970 GTO Version 3.0
      1967 Cougar build
      GM High-Tech Performance feature
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      Dr. EFI
      I deliver what EFI promises.
      Remote Holley EFI tuning.
      Please get in touch if I can be of service.

      "You were the gun, your voice was the trigger, your bravery was the barrel, your eyes were the bullets." ~ Her

    14. #14
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      I know this is an old thread, but were the Borlas a good swap? I have the hooker 3” system on my swapped 6.0 and the drone on the highway at 3000 rpm is unbearable. Looking to make a muffler swap.

    15. #15
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      Install Drone tubes

    16. #16
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      Quote Originally Posted by monteguy88 View Post
      I know this is an old thread, but were the Borlas a good swap? I have the hooker 3” system on my swapped 6.0 and the drone on the highway at 3000 rpm is unbearable. Looking to make a muffler swap.
      You may have a hard time finding mufflers that are quiet at 3000RPM. In my Cougar I go down the highway at 75mph at 1700RPM and you can barely hear the engine. I have the Borla ProXS large case mufflers.

      Andrew
      1970 GTO Version 3.0
      1967 Cougar build
      GM High-Tech Performance feature
      My YouTube Channel Please Subscribe!
      Instagram @projectgattago
      Dr. EFI
      I deliver what EFI promises.
      Remote Holley EFI tuning.
      Please get in touch if I can be of service.

      "You were the gun, your voice was the trigger, your bravery was the barrel, your eyes were the bullets." ~ Her

    17. #17
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      You might try Dyna Max turbo mufflers. I like and use them on my LS swaps.

    18. #18
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      Well, my Borla PRO XS are out for delivery today. I’ll update the post on whether or not they were worth the swap from the Hooker mufflers that come with the otherwise really nice and well made Hooker exhaust.

    19. #19
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      100% better, no more rasp or drone. The Borlas sound way crisper too. Only slight issue I ran into is the Borla mufflers were roughly 3/4” shorter than the Hookers, so I had to cheat a bit on some of the gaps, but it worked out great.

    20. #20
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      Awesome. Thanks for deeding back to the group.
      Red Forman: "The Mustang's front end is problematic; get yourself a Firebird."

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