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    1. #1
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      Anyone besides DSS make a CV driveshaft?

      Ok. I ordered a CV driveshaft from The Driveshaft Shop. They told me 8 weeks. WTF? I asked if I could purchase the components to build my own and no was the answer. I知 in Michigan and if I have to wait 8 weeks the snow will be here. Does anyone else build these?

      my trans is lower than my pinion so my driveshaft runs uphill. Not ideal but a CV driveshaft will fix it.

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      Tighten it till it strips & back it off a quarter turn.


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      They quoted me 4-6 weeks and I had it on my door step within a week

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      I have not found any other company that makes these kinds of driveshafts.

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      Quote Originally Posted by icemanrd19 View Post
      They quoted me 4-6 weeks and I had it on my door step within a week
      that would be great but not holding my breath.
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      Tighten it till it strips & back it off a quarter turn.

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      Did you receive your driveshaft from DSS yet? I ordered mine on 8/29 and am still waiting. Called last week and they said it would ship on 11/13 (scheduled for 11/9) but I still don't have a UPS tracking number. It better be perfect for the $$$ and wait time!

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      Might not help but when I did my 98 Wrangler LS swap I used Tom's Drive Shaft Service for my CV drive shaft. Typically they have ads in the four wheeler magazines.

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      Quote Originally Posted by 79 Camaro View Post
      Might not help but when I did my 98 Wrangler LS swap I used Tom's Drive Shaft Service for my CV drive shaft. Typically they have ads in the four wheeler magazines.
      These aren't the typical double cardon style CV joints that are used on 4x4s. These are Rzeppa style CV joints like used on the Porsche 930 rear axles.

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      Quote Originally Posted by andrewb70 View Post
      These aren't the typical double cardon style CV joints that are used on 4x4s. These are Rzeppa style CV joints like used on the Porsche 930 rear axles.

      Andrew
      What do you see as pros and cons of each?

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      Quote Originally Posted by JJ 109 View Post
      What do you see as pros and cons of each?
      Double cardon CV joints aren't truly CV. They are basically two u-joints that split the operating angle, and are more like a short two piece driveshaft.

      The Rzeppa style CV joints are a true constant velocity design. If you look at any, modern RWD or AWD high performance car, all you see are driveshafts with Rzeppa style CV joints.

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      Double cardans are more than capable. We run them in ultra 4 racing with zero issues. 700-1000hp, 6000lb trucks, 140mph through the desert, 20" of travel. I wouldn't be concerned one bit with running one.
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      Quote Originally Posted by andrewb70 View Post
      Double cardon CV joints aren't truly CV. They are basically two u-joints that split the operating angle, and are more like a short two piece driveshaft.

      The Rzeppa style CV joints are a true constant velocity design. If you look at any, modern RWD or AWD high performance car, all you see are driveshafts with Rzeppa style CV joints.

      Andrew
      In IRS vehicles yes. I have not seen the rzeppa style CV in a live axle production car. If you have Id like to know the application.
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      Quote Originally Posted by protour_chevelle View Post
      In IRS vehicles yes. I have not seen the rzeppa style CV in a live axle production car. If you have Id like to know the application.
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      Quote Originally Posted by andrewb70 View Post
      S197 Mustangs
      Ahh yes, the bandaid fix s197. Most guys first mod was a 1 piece swap lol.

      I know Jeep JKs use them up front but much smaller shaft sizes. Wouldn't be worth cutting one up to make a rear shaft with.
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      Quote Originally Posted by protour_chevelle View Post
      Ahh yes, the bandaid fix s197. Most guys first mod was a 1 piece swap lol.

      I know Jeep JKs use them up front but much smaller shaft sizes. Wouldn't be worth cutting one up to make a rear shaft with.
      The CV joints that DSS uses are huge, they use both 100 and 108mm joints.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Alwhite00 View Post
      Ok. I ordered a CV driveshaft from The Driveshaft Shop. They told me 8 weeks. WTF? I asked if I could purchase the components to build my own and no was the answer. I知 in Michigan and if I have to wait 8 weeks the snow will be here. Does anyone else build these?

      my trans is lower than my pinion so my driveshaft runs uphill. Not ideal but a CV driveshaft will fix it.
      Did you order/receive your driveshaft yet? I bought mine from DSS a few years ago. Mainly because my transmission has no slip yoke but my trans yoke is also lower than my pinion yoke. It works perfect.

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      Quote Originally Posted by 67-LS1 View Post
      Did you order/receive your driveshaft yet? I bought mine from DSS a few years ago. Mainly because my transmission has no slip yoke but my trans yoke is also lower than my pinion yoke. It works perfect.

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      Is this in a live axle car? How much slip is in the shaft?
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      QA1 makes really nice CV driveshafts.
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      Quote Originally Posted by protour_chevelle View Post
      Is this in a live axle car? How much slip is in the shaft?
      About an inch
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      Quote Originally Posted by GTOtzel View Post
      QA1 makes really nice CV driveshafts.
      For applications that didn't use the CV shafts as OE?
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      Quote Originally Posted by protour_chevelle View Post
      Is this in a live axle car? How much slip is in the shaft?
      I agree with Andrew; about an inch of movement. Which when I was told this by DSS I was like WTF, that痴 not enough. He told me to look at the yoke on my old shaft (from the power glide trans) and I would see that the wear pattern would be all concentrated in a very small area.
      It was and I致e had no issues with the shaft so far.
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