Ridetech OUT, 4 link Watts-link in.

[Tweak]

Time to throw the ridetech rear out and get better diff control with a custom 4 link and Watts linkage.

[badazz81z28]

Have you looked into Detroit Speed?

[BMR Sales]

We make Suspension Kits with Watts Links

[Tweak]

Cheers BMR, yeah a buddy down here has just installed one of your kits.

I'm going to design and build my own.

Cheers

[67CamaroLSX]

What you going to do with the ridetech 4 link?

[BMR Sales]

Cheers BMR, yeah a buddy down here has just installed one of your kits.

I'm going to design and build my own.

Cheers

if you want some of the small pieces ( like the Watts Link Pivot) so you don't have to machine them, let me know

[Merritt5]

if you want some of the small pieces ( like the Watts Link Pivot) so you don't have to machine them, let me know

What about the lca brackets, are they offered individually?

[Tweak]

What you going to do with the ridetech 4 link?

Cutting it up

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Yeah I've had a good look, its a nice piece. Cheers

if you want some of the small pieces ( like the Watts Link Pivot) so you don't have to machine them, let me know

[67CamaroLSX]

Cutting it up? I would take it off your hands.

[Tweak]

Cutting it up? I would take it off your hands.

I couldn't bring myself to give this junk to anyone.

[BMR Sales]

What about the lca brackets, are they offered individually?

if you can screenshot what you mean, I'll let you know. There are some pieces I can't sell.

[Merritt5]

if you can screenshot what you mean, I'll let you know. There are some pieces I can't sell.

This lower control arm bracket

[stab6902]

I couldn't bring myself to give this junk to anyone.

Out of curiosity, what specifically don't you like about the ridetech 4-link? I don't have any first hand experience with it, but I don't see any glaring flaws based on pictures.

[67CamaroLSX]

Would have saved me a lot of money. I'm planning on buying a ridetech 4 link this winter. Have read mostly good reviews about there setup.

[Tweak]

Out of curiosity, what specifically don't you like about the ridetech 4-link? I don't have any first hand experience with it, but I don't see any glaring flaws based on pictures.

When it articulates, ie going down a driveway in reverse and the rear end twist due to uneven surface, the diff rear steers.
This also happens on very uneven roads.

If you only drive on flat roads you have no issue, here in New Zealand we have awesome roads that really test a cars suspension

The issue is the top arms being to short and triangulated. As it articulates it drags the diff forward and back on different sides.

With a conventional 4 link the diff may move forward, but will always stay square in the car.
The goal is to control diff roll as it goes up and down

I have it now where the diff rolls down 0.5 degree over 5" of travel with zero twist.

There R&D processes are pretty poor at best. I had to re-design there tru turn also due to failing certification and **** bumpsteer, but thats another story

[slammed68]

Is this a build thread on your custom 4 link or just more boohooing about your experience with ridetech?

[Tweak]

Is this a build thread on your custom 4 link or just more boohooing about your experience with ridetech?

lol, just answering questions.

Yeah its a thread, you probably shouldn't follow

[BMR Sales]

This lower control arm bracket

the Answer is Yes AND No!

The Bracket you are referring to does not have it's own Part # - it is in Box J ( there are typically Six Boxes for a Torque Arm Kit) , but there is another Piece in that Box that you wouldn't use and since they don't have individual part #s I can't separate them

[anguilla1980]

Is this a build thread on your custom 4 link or just more boohooing about your experience with ridetech?

I appreciate the information being shared in this thread so quit your b*tchin.

[slammed68]

I appreciate the information being shared in this thread so quit your b*tchin.

Cool, glad you were able learn something.

I certainly dont mind someone saying, hey i'm switching this up because I would like to make improvements on XYZ. Here is what I have designed, here are the specs, does anyone have any input, ect,.

Just seemed like this was a case of someone looking to bash a product that a lot of members on this forum are using with positive results. He has complained and moaned about his experience with ridetech in the past despite his experiencing being way off center from that of other people who are running their products. This main complaint here is roll steer which is possible with triangulated or parallel 4- links and is heavily dependent on a number of variables including installation. I'm curious about how much articulation is required to get significant rear steer while on the road and if he calculated the amount of roll steer expected with the ridetech setup before designing his own solution. I dont think anyone considers the ridetech 4 link to be the best performing 4 link, it's intended to be a convenient solution that performs well.

Deciding to cut up a product that a lot of people would love to have if they could afford it, rather than sell it at a discount or give it away is pretty ****ty. I hate to hear about someone spending a lot of money on a product only to be let down but this is just petty. /rant

As an application engineer who works to support a popular version of CAD software I would have been very interested to hear more about the design process. I think everyone would have found the process of developing your own suspension very interesting, what software was used, critical measurements, simulations, challenges.