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    Default Steering box

    1969 camaro
    stock subframe
    all ridetech suspension and tru turn
    LS engine
    Holley mid mount acc drive with type 2 PS pump 20-185
    P/S adapter hardline to AN-6 included

    What are my quick ratio steering box options in this scenario?
    Probably need as much clearance for the headers as I can get as well.

    Thanks

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    I am running the stock gearbox that was manufactured with a smaller ratio. I am running hooker blackheart long tube headers with adjustable motor mounts. Great clearance and never had to ding the headers once.

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    Which mounts are you using? I was planning on using the black heart mounts and trans xmember. Also been reading alot about pressure modifications and how everything connects on the lines and steering column... I'm probably just overthinking this lol

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    I have a similar setup with DSE/turn one box. All holley swap pieces- oil pan, headers, mounts, trans x member. ridetech w tru turn. I'm running a C6 power steering pump. No header interference at all. Feel is as good or better than any rack I've driven. I had the pressure line made. For the return, edelmann makes a line that fits nicely (cut to length for the reservoir end) I have the 20-185 on my LS7, and I feel you could use the same return line. I'll see if I can dig up that part number for you.

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    Yeah shoot that my way if you dont mind. Thanks

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    I am using these mounts. "Classic Performance Engine Mounts LS1-KU-P"

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    We use (and offer both) the TurnOne and Borgeson boxes on our cars. They're both extremely nice pieces that work very well.

    Turnone - Offered in both a 12.7:1 or 10:1 ratio - https://www.ridetech.com/products/st...-steering-box/

    Borgeson - Offered in a 12.7:1 ratio - https://www.ridetech.com/products/st...-steering-box/

    Let me know if you have any questions on anything!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Josh@ridetech View Post
    We use (and offer both) the TurnOne and Borgeson boxes on our cars. They're both extremely nice pieces that work very well.

    Turnone - Offered in both a 12.7:1 or 10:1 ratio - https://www.ridetech.com/products/st...-steering-box/

    Borgeson - Offered in a 12.7:1 ratio - https://www.ridetech.com/products/st...-steering-box/

    Let me know if you have any questions on anything!
    Nightmarez I apologize for getting into your thread but thought it would be easier to ask Josh a question here than start a new thread about steering boxes.

    Josh, I have a stock power steering box on my '68 Camaro. I was having a problem with it sometimes locking up (still being able to get back home) and checked the screen filter on the powersteering pump. I also added a filter on the low pressure side. Since then I've had a problem with it being hard to steer (like there's a place it hangs, not the same place every time). I have checked and nothing hits the box or anything associated with it. I have one header tube that is pretty close but doesn't hit the box. When it's cold or motor just started I don't have a problem. After it heats up is when the problem begins. Any ideas?

    Thanks Carl

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    1968 Camaro - T-56 6 speed - 383 Stroker, 2014 Mustang GT seats

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josh@ridetech View Post
    We use (and offer both) the TurnOne and Borgeson boxes on our cars. They're both extremely nice pieces that work very well.

    Turnone - Offered in both a 12.7:1 or 10:1 ratio - https://www.ridetech.com/products/st...-steering-box/

    Borgeson - Offered in a 12.7:1 ratio - https://www.ridetech.com/products/st...-steering-box/

    Let me know if you have any questions on anything!
    +1 on the borgeson. Just installed one and love it. Also get their u-joint steering shaft kit. My '71 Camaro feels every bit as precise as my wifes 2017 infinity.
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    Josh, Thanks for the reply
    Quick question... Which pitman arm will I need? You are showing one for P/S and one for M/S.
    I assume my car came with manual steering but I stripped everything down and am running all ridetech.
    All I need now is the box, idler and pitman.
    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajaccola View Post
    I am using these mounts. "Classic Performance Engine Mounts LS1-KU-P"
    Thanks I'll check those out

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    Quote Originally Posted by minendrews68 View Post
    Nightmarez I apologize for getting into your thread but thought it would be easier to ask Josh a question here than start a new thread about steering boxes.

    Josh, I have a stock power steering box on my '68 Camaro. I was having a problem with it sometimes locking up (still being able to get back home) and checked the screen filter on the powersteering pump. I also added a filter on the low pressure side. Since then I've had a problem with it being hard to steer (like there's a place it hangs, not the same place every time). I have checked and nothing hits the box or anything associated with it. I have one header tube that is pretty close but doesn't hit the box. When it's cold or motor just started I don't have a problem. After it heats up is when the problem begins. Any ideas?

    Thanks Carl
    That is a good question. It could be something to do with the box when everything heats up but I'm not 100% sure. On something like that, Borgeson can probably give you some more solid advice. They might know some more quirky things about the boxes that I wouldn't think of. Another thing that could be causing an issue (that gets overlooked alot) are the balljoints. I have seen it a few times where they can heat up, metal expands, and they can also start feeling notchy and start catching. Just trying to think of anything and everything...
    Quote Originally Posted by ULTM8Z View Post
    +1 on the borgeson. Just installed one and love it. Also get their u-joint steering shaft kit. My '71 Camaro feels every bit as precise as my wifes 2017 infinity.
    Same here! I put one in my Firebird and it was a tremendous difference.
    Quote Originally Posted by KnightmareZ View Post
    Josh, Thanks for the reply
    Quick question... Which pitman arm will I need? You are showing one for P/S and one for M/S.
    I assume my car came with manual steering but I stripped everything down and am running all ridetech.
    All I need now is the box, idler and pitman.
    Thanks
    No problem at all! You would want to use the P/S arm for this box.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Josh@ridetech View Post
    That is a good question. It could be something to do with the box when everything heats up but I'm not 100% sure. On something like that, Borgeson can probably give you some more solid advice. They might know some more quirky things about the boxes that I wouldn't think of. Another thing that could be causing an issue (that gets overlooked alot) are the balljoints. I have seen it a few times where they can heat up, metal expands, and they can also start feeling notchy and start catching. Just trying to think of anything and everything...

    Same here! I put one in my Firebird and it was a tremendous difference.


    No problem at all! You would want to use the P/S arm for this box.

    Thanks Josh..


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