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    1. #1
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      12 bolt upgrade worth it?

      Hey all,



      I have a 8.2 2:56 peg leg in my 70 Chevelle. I am not a drag racer but I do like to have some fun on the streets and will go to to local auto cross events. I currently have a 350 with th350 and eventually will be doing a 5.3 or 6.0 swap with a 4l60e, I am planning around a 400 hp car.

      Id like to add a posi and change the rear gears in the future but i cant justify the going rate of 12 bolts, i found a used 12 bolt with 3:08s and posi for $1500 CDN ($1100 USD)and it looks pretty good but its still used and they are not easy to find in Canada.

      Any thoughts? What would you guys do?

      thanks
      1970 Chevelle Malibu 350 "70 Hell"
      - UMI - Kore3 - LS1 4 wheel discs - Budnik


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      I think $1500 sounds like a lot. For reference, I bought a 8.8” from a wrecker for $100, 3:55 no posi. I brought it to a ring and pinion shop in Chatham and he rebuilt it, added FRPP posi, straightened both axle tubes I had warped from welding on brackets, supplied another 31 spline axle since one of mine was worn and supplied a nice rear cover to top it off. That was 2 years ago with me beating on it. No leaks anywhere. The price was under $1100

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      Quote Originally Posted by Peter Mc Mahon View Post
      I think $1500 sounds like a lot. For reference, I bought a 8.8” from a wrecker for $100, 3:55 no posi. I brought it to a ring and pinion shop in Chatham and he rebuilt it, added FRPP posi, straightened both axle tubes I had warped from welding on brackets, supplied another 31 spline axle since one of mine was worn and supplied a nice rear cover to top it off. That was 2 years ago with me beating on it. No leaks anywhere. The price was under $1100
      Apples and oranges...You can't exactly put a 8.8" Ford rear end in a 70 Chevelle.

      Honestly, I would put a different gear and post in the 8.2" and drive it. If you're not going to drag race it, I bet it will last forever with 400hp.

      Andrew
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      You’re right Andrew, not sure why I thought it would!

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      Quote Originally Posted by Peter Mc Mahon View Post
      You’re right Andrew, not sure why I thought it would!
      If it was a leaf sprung swap, then the 8.8" is definitely the way to go!

      Andrew
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      If you can find an 8.5" 10 bolt they are much stronger ( my axle builder thinks maybe even than 12 bolt, as 12 bolt used much smaller bolts)
      And you can very affordably build that 8.2 to handle 800hp

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      Maybe an 8.5 10 bolt from an 1975-77 Chevelle abd its cousins might fit.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Zspoiler View Post
      Maybe an 8.5 10 bolt from an 1975-77 Chevelle abd its cousins might fit.
      I believe the mounting points are different...very similar, but not interchangeable.

      Andrew
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    9. #9
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      so everyone is of the opinion to rebuild my 8.2 with a posi and a set of gears? or should I just keep looking for a good 12 bolt core?
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      - UMI - Kore3 - LS1 4 wheel discs - Budnik

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      My 70 Elco has a Dart 385" sbc, TH350 w/TCI converter, and 8.2 10 bolt w/3.42 gears. The previous owner installed a mini-spool, instead of a limited slip. In the near future, I plan to install a Yukon or Eaton posi.
      I'm probably pushing the limits of the 8.2 but I think it will be ok.

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      Quote Originally Posted by 70chevellemalibu View Post
      so everyone is of the opinion to rebuild my 8.2 with a posi and a set of gears? or should I just keep looking for a good 12 bolt core?
      Add posi, gears, and axles, and rock on.

      Andrew
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    12. #12
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      8.2 will be fine unless you put slicks on it
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    13. #13
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      I would look for a 12 bolt .And or get an aftermarket one.

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      As a fellow canuck I do know the 12 bolts are harder to find here .... keep you eyes open during the off season . About 8 yrs ago I couldn't give mine away , 3 trips to Barrie swap meet before I finally dumped it for 250 $$$$ ! . I have seen some on kijiji for around 1000
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      early 70's nova ss 8.5" is bolt in

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      Quote Originally Posted by Dark Pursuit View Post
      early 70's nova ss 8.5" is bolt in
      Really? For a 70 Chevelle?!?!?

      Andrew
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      Dr. EFI
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      "You were the gun, your voice was the trigger, your bravery was the barrel, your eyes were the bullets." ~ Her

    17. #17
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      Quote Originally Posted by 70chevellemalibu View Post
      i found a used 12 bolt with 3:08s and posi for $1500 CDN ($1100 USD)and it looks pretty good but its still used and they are not easy to find in Canada.
      This seems like a pretty good deal. I'd be all over this.
      Red Forman: "The Mustang's front end is problematic; get yourself a Firebird."

    18. #18
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      Yeah you and everyone else lmao ... I didnt offer it up on here because A you Americans have way more "inventory " then we do and B I really had zero desire to attempt at shipping it
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    19. #19
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      OP, where are you located?

    20. #20
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      I'm in Manitoba.

      I priced out a posi, gears, rebuild kit and axles for my 8.2 and it put me around $1700 CDN to rebuild.

      If i buy the 12 bolt i might need a rebuild and upgrade the gears to a 3:55 > one day so that puts me at $1500 + $500 for a better diff?

      thoughts?
      1970 Chevelle Malibu 350 "70 Hell"
      - UMI - Kore3 - LS1 4 wheel discs - Budnik

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