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    1. #1
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      cage attached to body?

      How come I have never seen a cage attached to the roof of the car? I know the roof material is thin but couldnt the cage attach to the pillars and pick up the roof in a few places? It would free up some room and stiffen the car.

      ??????????



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      You could also just upholster over the whole thing.

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      I bought a '64 Chevelle 2-dr wagon project done this way... I never finished it, and I sold it on ebay a few months ago... It looked cool as hell the way the cage was almost completely hidden if you weren't looking for it. I don't know why it's not done more often though???

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      Quote Originally Posted by Derek69SS
      I don't know why it's not done more often though???
      people are lazy and want to take the easy way out. just bend the tubes roughly to shape not worrying about how long they are and welding them in...

      but on the other hand a cage farther from the pillars/roof makes it easier to install factory interior pieces.
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      Track tech requires the tubes to be welded all the way around. It is very difficult to do this and attatch the roof to the tubes.

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      Thanks.

      I figured if yoou did it this way you do custom headliner, etc.

      I guess you could weld around the tube and then fit it, but what a pain.

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      Dirk,
      FYI, the #80 has tabs that connect the corners of the roof and pillars to the cage. While not stiff enough on it's own, the roof and pillars add a bunch of stiffness to a limited cage. When do I get those pics of your ride?
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      Jenson Sorry , I will get on it tonight. I am developing C.R.S.

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      Just sent them.

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      you can attach it like we do on rally cars, you fit the cage, drill holes in the floor, drop the cage down, weld the top and then put the mounting plates over the holes.

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      Quote Originally Posted by homerneedspeed
      you can attach it like we do on rally cars, you fit the cage, drill holes in the floor, drop the cage down, weld the top and then put the mounting plates over the holes.
      I like it! Gotta remember this for my install!

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      I remember when cars where cut in half to fit a cage...
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      Quote Originally Posted by homerneedspeed
      you can attach it like we do on rally cars, you fit the cage, drill holes in the floor, drop the cage down, weld the top and then put the mounting plates over the holes.
      I thought this was standard practice for a tight fitting cage? How do most people weld the top of their cages without doing this? I've never installed a cage before, and will be within the next few months, so I'm wondering?

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      Ralph, who is gonna do your cage?

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      21st Century Street Machines in developing a cage that ties directly to the "A" pillars with a cover that eliminates the factory "A" pillar cover on first gen Camaros.

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      Quote Originally Posted by vanzuuk1
      Ralph, who is gonna do your cage?
      Me, myself and I, lol. I'm either going start with a 10pt kit and modify it too my needs (i.e. add bars -- I want to do some things not found in kits like sill bars in additon to the door bars, a diagonal and horizontal rear bar(s) on the main hoop, etc.) or I'll get a tubing bender and scratch build one. I'll know for sure what I'm doing within the next month or so, as we're going to be starting bodywork around then or sooner. And soon after the bodywork, 3-link install, then cage.

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      Ralph We should talk, I may help you a day or two so I can learn a little for my cage. Do you have all the tools to do the whole thing in house?

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      Check your PMs.

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      Our cage is almost invisible from a front view of the car. The cage is much further along since the photo above and has had all the bodywork done to it and it is beautiful. I will see if Ed will let me put up some pictures of it.
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      Take a look at many road racing cars and you will find the a-pillar bar and frequently the b-pillar as well tied into the pilar with sheetmetal with lightening holes.
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