Cageless 5pt harness?

[HandOverFist]

What's the advantage of the Corbeau belt? The Schroth Rallye-3 is a similar configuration and is DOT legal.



https://www.schrothracing.com/tuning/rallye/rallye-3

That one has no inertia retractor...can't lean forward in the seat once fastened. It would feel like I was strapped in one of my race cars...aggravating for street use.

[Peter Mc Mahon]

Wouldn't not leaning forward lead to submarining? I thought that is what is 'good' about stock 3 point?

[Twentyover]

Be careful saying a belt is DOT approved- there are 4 FMVSS standards associated with belts and occupoant protection, some stating such important things as the dye must remain colorfast in UV light, or not smear onto clothing- that have little to do with passenger saftey

[HandOverFist]

No doubt Schoth spent the money (and it was probably considerable) to obtain the DOT stamp of approval. My guess is other manufacturers looked into it and weighed the cost vs liability issues and decided it did not fit into their niche market model.

[MonzaRacer]

I saw a frame that bolted to the car, came up to approx shoulder height, and owner also made reinforcingbbar that connected on the B pillar.
It was removable and owner made a padded cover for the mounts so as to protect anyone who might hit it . Made it look like part of car.
I'll look for pictures.

[Chris_67SS]

I just saw this post today. I made a removable harness bar for my 67 Impala SS. The hoop is dom 1.25 in, 0.120 wall. the hoop stands are dom 1.75 in, 0.120 wall with an 8 in overlap. Struts are cormo 4130 1.55 in, 0.120 wall tube.

[Zanie]

Ugh! I saw this post and thought I would get an idea for the direction I want to take, now after reading I think I have less of an idea.
In my 73 Vega Wagon, I want it to appear stock, when I'm daily driving it and hitting the local cruise nights.
I have frame rails tucked up underneath so there are no clues that its modified (with the hood closed).
I want a removable bar like the impala above with a 5 point for autocross and a couple road coarse outings.
The removable bar will be tied to my frame rails
When I remove the bar I would like to use my factory 3 point.
The factory three point is actually a lap belt with an add on shoulder belt.
.....perhaps I could use the lap belt from the 5 point and the stock shoulder belt for around town driving.
Just typing that makes me nervous.
Ugh!

[JohnUlaszek]

I've posted this article a couple of times, but I'll do it again because I feel this subject can't get too much attention . This represents the compromise I was willing to live with for a street/track car.
http://www.superchevy.com/how-to/add...llbar-install/

I consulted with Joe Marko at HMS Motorsports for the article. Joe is the North American rep for Schroth. I met Joe when I was designing restraint systems for military vehicles.

Do your own research for your specific application and talk to subject matter experts, most of what you read in forums or a magazine is bull**** -- don't gamble with your life.

[ponchoblue]

now thats a cool setup now i want one

[jlwdvm]

The agrument is always"you shouldn't use a shoulder harness without a roll bar". I have a 8-point cage in my 69 Firebird project with Simpson 5-point belts. I wanted to start to use a HANS device for track days with my '16 GT350 (until the Firebird is done)...so I consulted Ron Sutton. We went with a Schroth 4-point ASM belt that attaches to factory belt locations. I don't have a roll bar in the 350. The odds are way better to have a frontal impact at a HPDE than a roll over. With the HANS, factory air bags, and 4-point (along with Ron's advice) I feel safer. To each his/her own though.