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    1. #21
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      Appears these are really "bolt in only"...If you weld them in, how the heck will you ever remove the leafs?
      1970 Camaro/DSE build


      Are you driver enough? Maybe....come on blue!
      https://www.pro-touring.com/threads/...71#post1147371

    2. #22
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      Quote Originally Posted by Benttube View Post
      Any plans making them for a 2nd gen camaro?
      We're going through the list on what cars we're going to build them for right now (and that one is on top of the list :D).
      Quote Originally Posted by 68Formula View Post
      Since you're incorporating a new spring mount bracket anyway, what about cutting the top off for clearance and seeing how high the leaf mount hole can be moved up to improve anti-squat? Aka, the Herb Adams Mod. Not sure how much you'd get on a 1st gen without having to cutting the floor, but some is probably better than none. Since part of it is tied into the connector, probably wouldn't take much reinforcement to make it rigid enough.
      The goal was to get them in the car without having to modify floor but it could be done for sure. The leaf mount that is incorporated with this is much stronger than factory so I don't believe any extra reinforcement would be needed. At this moment, we're really happy with this design but maybe down the road!
      Quote Originally Posted by badazz81z28 View Post
      Appears these are really "bolt in only"...If you weld them in, how the heck will you ever remove the leafs?
      Correct, they're built to be bolt in. We didn't want to put another cut/weld option out on the market as there are already a ton of those. We wanted these to hit all of the main goals that one would have for a subframe connector without having to cut the floor up or weld on the car.


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    3. #23
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      Body mounts

      Solid body mounts are required when installing subframe connnectors, indeed for welded connectors. In my car I have polyurethane body bushings, should I need to replace them solid body mounts when installing your ridetech connectors? What is your advice?

      Thanks,

      Marc

    4. #24
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      Josh

      What about us guys & gals with the first Gen Convertibles ?
      I can be a test subject if you need one, I already have full coilover ridetech front suspension & rear ridetech 4 link installed..LOL
      thanks
      Scott

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    6. #26
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      Quote Originally Posted by Camaro68+69 View Post
      Josh

      What about us guys & gals with the first Gen Convertibles ?
      I can be a test subject if you need one, I already have full coilover ridetech front suspension & rear ridetech 4 link installed..LOL
      thanks
      Scott
      Hey Scott,

      Nothing for the convertibles just yet unfortunately! I'll pick on the guys for you :D.

      Quote Originally Posted by Rod View Post
      good install pictures Joshy
      Haha, thanks sir! I hope you're doing well Rod .

      Quote Originally Posted by Marc View Post
      Solid body mounts are required when installing subframe connnectors, indeed for welded connectors. In my car I have polyurethane body bushings, should I need to replace them solid body mounts when installing your Ridetech connectors? What is your advice?

      Thanks,

      Marc
      Hey Marc,

      With our kits, we've ran them with rubber, poly, and solid mounts. Although the solid mounts do make it a little more solid, they're not 100% necessary for ours.

      To me, the only reason that solid mounts would be required with weld-on subframe connectors is that replacing worn out bushings would be awful with everything being fully welded together.


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    7. #27
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      Quote Originally Posted by Josh@ridetech View Post
      Hey everyone,

      We have been tossing around the idea of building some subframe connectors for quite some time and decided it was time to make it happen. We just finalized the design for the 1st gen F body (for coupe cars only) a couple of months ago and are now shipping them out the door! Instead of trying to find a way to make a set that works with the original leaf spring mounts, we designed a setup that has an integrated leaf spring mount for even more added strength (which is the coolest part about these in my mind). These are a super nice fitting piece that help eliminate the chassis flex that these uni-body cars have fought since day one.



      https://www.ridetech.com/product/cam...me-connectors/

      Key points:


      • Fabricated from 1.5 in. x 3 in. x .125 wall steel
      • Rear of the connector mounts solidly into three existing floor pan bolt locations for maximum strength and completely replaces the original leaf spring pocket
      • Front of the connector bolts through the original subframe and is captured by the body bushing as well to enhance rigidity
      • No fabrication, all bolt-in installation
      • Tightly fitting against the floor for ground clearance
      • Works with OE leaf springs, Ridetech Streetgrip leaf springs, and Ridetech 4-Link rear suspensions
      • Powdercoated satin black
      • Hardware included



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      REALLY, REALLY sad that I didn’t know these were coming. Now I have welded in DSE ones. Another cut the floor, weld, etc. thing that could have been avoided. If you guys come up with any more news things, let me know. I need to set up notifications for RideTech info...


    8. #28
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      It's been 7 months since the last update on subframe connectors for 1st gen convertibles. Anything in process?

    9. #29
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      Quote Originally Posted by 68conv455 View Post
      It's been 7 months since the last update on subframe connectors for 1st gen convertibles. Anything in process?
      Doesn't look like it yet. No love for us verts.

      Red Forman: "The Mustang's front end is problematic; get yourself a Firebird."

    10. #30
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      Quote Originally Posted by hotrodgirl View Post
      REALLY, REALLY sad that I didn’t know these were coming. Now I have welded in DSE ones. Another cut the floor, weld, etc. thing that could have been avoided. If you guys come up with any more news things, let me know. I need to set up notifications for ridetech info...
      I'd say you're probably good with the DSE connectors. The front mount on these (and a lot of the bolt in options) doesn't seem to me to be that stout versus torsional forces in the body. Here's what I did with DSE SFC's. The ears are 1/4" steel, are welded to the subframe and engage the SFCs at two points with 1/2" hardware. I sleeved the SFC's so they wouldn't collapse under the clamping pressure of the hardware.

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      Mike Kelcy - '68 Camaro with some stuff done to it.

    11. #31
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      Quote Originally Posted by 68conv455 View Post
      It's been 7 months since the last update on subframe connectors for 1st gen convertibles. Anything in process?
      Just got done with the R&D on them not too long ago, you should be seeing an update shortly!

      Quote Originally Posted by Mkelcy View Post
      I'd say you're probably good with the DSE connectors. The front mount on these (and a lot of the bolt in options) doesn't seem to me to be that stout versus torsional forces in the body. Here's what I did with DSE SFC's. The ears are 1/4" steel, are welded to the subframe and engage the SFCs at two points with 1/2" hardware. I sleeved the SFC's so they wouldn't collapse under the clamping pressure of the hardware.

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      With the connector being clamped on the sides and sandwiched between the body mount, they're extremely stout. You'd be surprised .


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    12. #32
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      I finished the drivers side sfc on my 69 camaro with speedtech protouring sub

      Back went in fine but the fronts barely reached into the subframe part due to the length of the speedtech frame is probably shorter than a stock one

      Im gonna have to fab up a plate to i can bolt it up
      And i had to trim the part that sandwhiches in the subframe

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      1969 frost green camaro
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      Speedtech pro touring front subframe
      ridetech rear 4-link
      moser 12 bolt eaton tru trac 3.73

    13. #33
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      Finally got around to making extensions and welding them on gonna take them to my friend to have them professionally powdercoated.
      After the blame game between ridetech and speedtech i decided to come up with my own solution
      Still need to clean up the welds
      But i feel the flex if the ends are eliminated
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      1969 frost green camaro
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      Speedtech pro touring front subframe
      ridetech rear 4-link
      moser 12 bolt eaton tru trac 3.73

    14. #34
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      I just had a set of these and ridetech's solid body mounts installed in my '69 Firebird. As you can see by the photos, my car still has the factory floors and a lot of "old carness" on it.

      The subframes fit well against the contours of the the factory floors and they've provided enough room to account for some sagging. The exhaust piping is still the lowest object at the breakover point of the car. My bird is low, the subframe at it's lowest point is 3.25" above the ground. The areas that I tend to have ground clearance issues are still the same areas and haven't changed with the addition of the subframes. I typically have issues at the X pipe connection, the header flange and the below floor mufflers.

      Granted, I removed some really bad original body mounts and had two of the subframe mounts repaired, but the ridetech bushings have actually decreased the NVH in the car. The addition of both of those items as well as the subframe connectors gives a nice "put together" feel. Having had SN chassis mustangs with the addition of subframe connectors, you would really notice a lack of flex in those cars with the change. I can't say that I notice this same thing with the addition hear, but instead the car feels like it's now forcing the suspension to do the work instead of the body doing the work. I would kind of describe it as the ability to feel what is happening up front, differentiated by what is happening in the rear. Before, I kind of felt everything through the car as a whole.

      For context, the car is a partial restoration (body and paint with newish drivetrain). Aluminum headed Pontiac engine with a th400, moser 12 bolt. Suspension is SPC front with Hotchkis BB springs and hotchkis 3" drop leafs in the rear.

      It weighs 3402 with 3/4 tank of fuel, so a pretty standard survivor type car. I'm not certain that going from a very well sorted car with new or newish body mounts and these subframes would create as dramatic of a difference, but for the guys freshening up a budget F-body, I'd say this is money well spent.

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    15. #35
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      They are finally up after having them repowdercoated after welding extensions on
      The long bolt hole is a little off. The sleeve is at a slight angle and wont go into the spring clip
      Si i reamed it out with a slightly larger bit so now it has just enough play to get into the clip
      I still need to drill the 4 holes but that has to wait until the new rear is in and on all 4’s
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      1969 frost green camaro
      LS3
      Speedtech pro touring front subframe
      ridetech rear 4-link
      moser 12 bolt eaton tru trac 3.73

    16. #36
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      Nice design - I like how they integrate/replace the leaf spring perch.
      Clint - '70 Nova "restomod" cruiser & autocross family car

    17. #37
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      [QUOTE=Josh@ridetech;1362597]Just got done with the R&D on them not too long ago, you should be seeing an update shortly!



      Yawn.....

      How are those first gen convertible subframe connectors coming?

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      Quote Originally Posted by 68Formula View Post
      Doesn't look like it yet. No love for us verts.

      You actually got me to laugh out loud with this one, thanks for that! Haha

      [QUOTE=68conv455;1388409]
      Quote Originally Posted by Josh@ridetech View Post
      Just got done with the R&D on them not too long ago, you should be seeing an update shortly!



      Yawn.....

      How are those first gen convertible subframe connectors coming?
      I haven't forgot you! I was picking on the production team the other day about these. We've been doing alot of SFC design (the 2nd gen cars just got completed as well). The last I heard on the 1st gen convertible was that we were bringing in another car to validate fitment on one more time. I'll keep you posted!


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      Quote Originally Posted by Josh@ridetech View Post
      You actually got me to laugh out loud with this one, thanks for that! Haha
      Thanks, I do what I can!

      Keep us posted.
      Red Forman: "The Mustang's front end is problematic; get yourself a Firebird."

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      Quote Originally Posted by 68Formula View Post
      Thanks, I do what I can!

      Keep us posted.
      Haha, can do!


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