Sustained Cruising RPMs: how low is too low?
With regards to cruising RPMs, how low is too low? With the .5:1 6th gear of a T56, the possibility for some really low cruising RPMs exists, and I’m wondering when it becomes detrimental to the engine? With the gas prices as they are, extra highway mpg is always a good thing in my book.
For example:
.5:1 6th gear / 3:42 rear end ratio / 26” tall tires
75mph =1650RPM
70mph = 1540RPM
65mph = 1430RPM
60mph = 1320RPM
The same combo with 3:23 rear end ratio:
75mph =1560RPM
70mph = 1450RPM
65mph = 1350RPM
60mph = 1250RPM
With the 3:23s, how low is too low: 1300, 1200, etc? I’ve heard people say you’re lugging the car, if cruising below 1500rpms, and I tend to agree, but GM recommends shifting into 6th at 49mph, figure they’re assuming a 55mph speed limit. With a bone stock 4th generation F-body, RPMS are at 1230. Basically I’m just wondering where you guys draw the line? 500rpms above idle, 700, 1000? I realize cars with large cams will need larger gears to keep the RPMS up around 2000. However, considering cars with mild or even stock cams, in the case of LSX motors; what is sufficient?
Just for the record, I’m not considering changing gears in my 4th gen, but rather thinking of another car, where highway mpg is not necessarily a concern, but any increase is appreciated. If you’ve got the HP (500+) and the car is mostly all street driven, I don’t really see the need for 3:73s or 4:11s, since you’ve likely got more than enough power. With the wide spread of gears, why not keep the revs really low on the highway and net 32-35mpg?
Thoughts?
Some numbers for you to compare...
While Frank and I were trying to decide what gear to order up for Eternity, these are some the the considerations and estimates he calculated...
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OK, here are some numbers. Assuming the car weighs 3400LBS done. We can make some ET predictions based on HP.
At 550FWHP (10lbs boost?), we should net around 440RWHP using a loss efficiency of about 80% through the drivetrain. Based on 440RWHP she should be able to run 11.50 @ 118MPH
At 650FWHP (14lbs boost?), we should net around 520RWHP using a loss efficiency of about 80% through the drivetrain. Based on 520RWHP she should be able to run 10.90 @ 125MPH
Now to run 118MPH in the quarter at 5500RPMs ( which is where I would want to stay RPM wise on a regular bases), and assuming a 8% converter slippage (1..08 trans ratio), we need 331 gears. To make it run 125MPH we would need to turn it 5800RPMs
The car has sufficient horsepower to weight ratio to pull overdrive for top end, so assuming a net transmission ratio of .80 (.72 + .08 converter slippage. Top speed at 5500 should be right at 160MPH
For cruising RPMs. In overdrive, assuming a net ratio of .76 (.72 + .04 converter slippage at cruise), you should turn 2250RPMs at 70MPH, 2000RPMs @ 60MPH, and 1600RPMs at 50MPH.
So we need to order a 3.30 rear
Frank