Going "Pro Touring" direction. [Archive]

Guyt699

06-14-2013, 07:37 AM

This is my 1990 454ss. I've owned it since 1995. Trying to go pro-touring direction as funds come available. It has a fresh .03 over 454. Static dropped 4/6. I have a procharger that i am planning on installing this winter and plan on going with coil overs at some point. I painted it and put in the new motor about two years ago (first vehicle to paint. Black sucks!).
Plans are to auto cross it and enjoy it with the family. My three year old little girl loves riding in it! Only been on the site for a few weeks but am over whelmed with the talent on here.
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Fresh from paint and trying to buff.
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lilbill72

06-15-2013, 02:51 AM

Looking good man

driveit

06-15-2013, 03:25 AM

I think that thing would look awesome with like a 4 inch chop to it.

shizzy

06-15-2013, 04:08 AM

Love it.

tommycomfort

06-17-2013, 03:17 AM

I've always been a fan of those trucks and it even gets better lowered. Keep up the good work!

no go nova

06-18-2013, 04:28 AM

If you add the pro charger the tbi will need to be upgrade to a 4 barrel throttle body and new ecu to have good driving manners tbi dont like force air.

Guyt699

06-18-2013, 12:44 PM

If you add the pro charger the tbi will need to be upgrade to a 4 barrel throttle body and new ecu to have good driving manners tbi dont like force air.

Could you please tell me the issues you know of. I already have the Procharger unit. Several people on the 454ss forum are running these and I asked them before purchasing and they said they had no issues. I plan on running a ported cfm tech tbi that has a o-ringed throttle shaft(which is the only issue that ATI and 454ss members mentioned was a problem- fuel leaks on the shaft). Was going to use either a Moates or Dynamic EFI unit for tuning. I am already running a Walbro 255 in tank fuel pump but the kit comes with an electric aux. pump. Also has a fuel management unit that is included in the kit.
Any input or help you can give me would be greatly appreciated. This will be my first boosted engine and I'm sure I'll figure it out but if someone with more experience can guide me through before I make mistakes it would really help.

snopro

06-18-2013, 06:09 PM

love it. nice clean truck keep up the good work

Guyt699

06-19-2013, 04:44 AM

love it. nice clean truck keep up the good work

Thanks. I really dig what your working on. Been following it!

CruizinKev

06-19-2013, 04:48 AM

looks good so far!

Tricky

07-03-2013, 10:32 PM

I love my 1990 350 sport w/5spd maybe one day we can meet at a NASA track day or pro- touring event. Love this new truck section. R u going to "Run to the Music" event?

astroracer

07-04-2013, 05:04 AM

Guyt699

07-08-2013, 05:05 AM

I love my 1990 350 sport w/5spd maybe one day we can meet at a NASA track day or pro- touring event. Love this new truck section. R u going to "Run to the Music" event?

Would be cool to meet up someday. Haven't heard of the "Run to the Music" event.

Guyt699

07-08-2013, 05:10 AM

Nice. Roll pan and smoothed gate look good. The paint looks good, nice job. I went to order one of these in the fall of '89... Talked myself out of it and picked up an '89 step side, off the lot, for about 10 grand less. Did you go spindles and springs in front with a flip in the rear? Sure did change the way it handles didn't it?
Mark

Yes. Did spindles and springs with a flip. Standard static 4/6 drop. Does handle a lot better. I smoothed everything (roll pan, tail lights, handles, pockets) a few years ago and then the truck sat for awhile. Wish I hadn't now. Thanks for the compliments.

woodside783

07-09-2013, 09:24 AM

Very nice. Got to see a sport this weekend and liked it. First ride was a 90 Scottsdale wish I still had it.

the dan

07-18-2013, 06:02 AM

the dan

07-18-2013, 06:02 AM

Tbi**

SRD art

07-18-2013, 08:01 AM

Dare to be different FTW! :headbang:

Guyt699

07-20-2013, 04:04 AM

Honestly I would ditch that hole RBI set up and go with a quality tunable one from fasst or Holley or msd. Those stock Tbi set ups are junk in the performance aspect. Your trucks still an emissions vehicle though right?

The plan in the future is to go with a better fuel delivery. Right now I am planning on brakes and suspension first. The truck doesn't get traction now and the fuel seems to be getting there fine but the tbi is a pain in the ass to tune. I do have the procharger but am still undecided on whether to install it. Almost all of the pollution stuff has been removed and the motor has recently been rebuilt with mild upgrades (edelbrock tbi cam and alum heads, intake). When I rebuilt the whole truck it was mainly to do cruise ins with my three year old daughter but it is kind of boring. She would rather ride with the windows down than sit somewhere and look at it. A buddy of mine started the local scca solo stuff here and has talked me into trying some of that(I use to ride motocross and road race till my daughter was born so this kind of fits).
I've have been following your build and can't wait to see it finished.

Guyt699

07-20-2013, 04:05 AM

Dare to be different FTW! :headbang:

Right on!

struck by Lightning

07-20-2013, 12:20 PM

Cool project......I love it!

Guyt699

01-08-2014, 11:26 AM

Better suspension and brakes next. I know that's kind of backwards but the wheels were a gift.
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Ron Sutton

01-08-2014, 11:54 AM

It looks bitchin' ! I love these trucks.

Guyt699

01-08-2014, 12:09 PM

Thanks Ron. Means a lot coming from you. I'm going to use your sticky as my suspension guide! The internet sure makes me a lot smarter!

snopro

01-12-2014, 07:21 PM

those wheels look sick, what are they?

Guyt699

01-13-2014, 06:27 AM

those wheels look sick, what are they?

They are some cheap wheels I found that are intended for a Mustang ($750 for the set shipped wheelreplicas.com). I had to convert to a 5x4.5 bolt pattern and turn(actually did it on a mill on a rotary table) the center of the front rotors down to make them hub centric. The offset was good on the front but the rear needed to be spaced out about 7/8" so I just made an adapter. The wheels are 20x10 with 295/40-20 and 20x8.5 with 245/40-20.
Thanks for the compliment!
These rotors are temporary.
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mooseknuckles

02-15-2014, 08:00 PM

wheels are killer!

Silverusto

03-03-2014, 10:50 AM

What type of roll-pan do you have? I've got a 1991 C1500 and I'm looking to invest in a roll-pan just like this one!

Guyt699

03-04-2014, 06:07 AM

wheels are killer!

Thanks man!

Guyt699

03-04-2014, 06:09 AM

What type of roll-pan do you have? I've got a 1991 C1500 and I'm looking to invest in a roll-pan just like this one!
It has been so long I honestly don't remember. I found it in Truckin magazine years ago (like 1998) and it was the cheapest weld in I could find. Sorry for not being much help.

Silverusto

03-04-2014, 06:36 AM

It's all good. I understand!

Austin97C1500

03-18-2014, 03:57 PM

Guyt699

03-19-2014, 07:12 AM

Loving the truck. I'm currently looking wheels for my 97 swb GMC. I hate the wheels that mostly seem to be available for these trucks and want to run a mesh wheel. I dont have thousands of dollars for custom wheels. I love what you've done there. It looks awesome.

I know exactly what you mean. This truck is just something I mess with here and there so I didn't really want to spend a lot of money on wheels which meant custom wheels were definetly out. I could not find any off the shelf wheels that would fit correctly and were a 5x5. I really wanted the "mesh" look and these were in my price range and I didn't have to do too much modding to get them on. Good luck with your '97 and if you need any info on what I did or sourced just PM me and I would be happy to share. Also, if you decide to go this route I could help you with the machine work. Thanks for the compliment.

Austin97C1500

03-19-2014, 05:17 PM

Heck yea. I'm leaning towards the FR500 style wheel in black with polished lip. I like that there is minimal spacer/adapters used and the offsets must be close. I'll send a pm.

bovey

03-19-2014, 05:29 PM

I love these trucks. AND. THAT. IS. BADASS. Big like. Looking forward to this build.

birdsandbowties

03-30-2014, 06:26 PM

truck looks killer ! I am building a 97 Yukon,,,,, ya wanna sell the impala ss wheels ?

Guyt699

03-31-2014, 05:07 AM

I love these trucks. AND. THAT. IS. BADASS. Big like. Looking forward to this build.

Thanks Bovey. Wish I would have documented more when I was actually building this truck. I blew the motor about five years ago so since I had more time than money I pulled the whole truck apart to the frame. Lots I wish that I would have done different(including making it a "build") but overall happy with it now. Thanks again for the compliments.

Guyt699

03-31-2014, 05:10 AM

truck looks killer ! I am building a 97 Yukon,,,,, ya wanna sell the impala ss wheels ?

Thanks man! I sold the impala wheels to a guy here at work with a square body chevy. I think he needed tires more than wheels but it worked out. Good luck with your Yukon. I really like those. I have thought about looking for a two door myself.

PCHRODS

03-31-2014, 12:57 PM

Hey Guy.....Looking good man!!

gak68

03-31-2014, 05:48 PM

Awesome truck; I'm jealous. I have been looking around for a clean 454SS truck to make into a daily driver. They are either beat to death around here or clean and priced way too high.

Guyt699

04-01-2014, 10:50 AM

Hey Guy.....Looking good man!!
Thanks Rob!

Guyt699

04-01-2014, 10:57 AM

Awesome truck; I'm jealous. I have been looking around for a clean 454SS truck to make into a daily driver. They are either beat to death around here or clean and priced way too high.
Thanks buddy. I've had it for awhile and my family has enjoyed it since '95. I think you find more of the "beat to death" ones around than the "clean" ones. If I was looking for one, the 91-93 would be the ones I would look for with the 4l80e trans. I don't know if the mileage is any better but mine has a th400 and is about 8-10mpg.

Guyt699

04-01-2014, 11:17 AM

A few people have been asking me about modding my rotors and the specs on them. I basically milled the center hubs to be hub centric to the ford wheels, drilled the new pattern to 5x4.5 and I also had to mill the very top lip to fit where the "center cap" would be. Also, on the back side I milled the rough casting flat so that the new studs would press in and bottom out flat. I used 1/2-20 studs that were 2" long with some ebay spline drive lugs. On the fronts I was not able to use the supplied center cap so I found some nice domed dust caps and painted them flat black to match the wheels. On the rear I just used a 1"thick adptor to go from 5x5 to 5x4.5 (not reaaly fond of spacers but it worked out). It has all worked out well so far and was very economical. The wheels are the gt500 concave wheels from wheelreplicas.com, 20x8.5 and 20x10. Hope this helps anyone looking into doing this. Sorry I'm not better at posting details. Also, a few folks have asked about my rear disc setup. It is Impala SS calipers and rotors with a bracket I made. I am not running an ebrake. I gutted my factory prop valve and it seems to be working fine. Thanks for all the compliments!
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gak68

04-01-2014, 05:39 PM

8-10, yea that's on the low side. It would be cool to get a 4l80e out of a crashed truck for it.

Guyt699

04-02-2014, 04:36 AM

8-10, yea that's on the low side. It would be cool to get a 4l80e out of a crashed truck for it.
I've read were some of the guys with these are running gear vendors and getting decent mileage. A little out of my price range though.

Austin97C1500

04-02-2014, 05:11 PM

Thanks Guy for all the help. I'm hoping to have some good wheel updates of my own soon!

454SSguy

04-02-2014, 06:29 PM

Love your truck man, looks like it could be kin to mine. lol
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Guyt699

04-03-2014, 04:35 AM

Love your truck man, looks like it could be kin to mine. lol
I followed your build on the 454 forum. How's things been going with the new kiddo? Any updates on your truck? Thanks for the compliment!

Guyt699

04-03-2014, 04:37 AM

Thanks Guy for all the help. I'm hoping to have some good wheel updates of my own soon!

No problem Austin.

454SSguy

04-03-2014, 04:42 AM

I followed your build on the 454 forum. How's things been going with the new kiddo? Any updates on your truck? Thanks for the compliment!

The newest addition is doing well. Crawling now, getting into everything. The truck is coming along well, taking it to the strip tomorrow. Hoping for 12s.

Guyt699

04-03-2014, 05:13 AM

This is my favorite co-pilot yesterday. Had to put some axle seals in and go for a "test" drive. We have had this truck for a long time but when she started wanting to go for rides in the "black" truck it kind of revived my interest in it.

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Barrrf

04-03-2014, 05:49 AM

Well that settles it...........I'll be doing this for my next project. MAN that looks hot with those wheels. Well done.

454SSguy

04-03-2014, 11:01 AM

Guy I completely understand. I've got a 7yr old that always wants to go for a ride in "betty". Makes everything even better.

Austin97C1500

04-04-2014, 05:34 PM

Haha! I love it my 3 year old girl loves riding in "Daddy's truck" also.

Thunderwagen

02-06-2015, 02:09 PM

I just wanted to thank you for all the help on the wheel setup man. I finally got around to getting it done and Im excited to get the truck back together so I can see how its going to look.

Guyt699

02-08-2015, 10:07 AM

Looks awesome! Glad it worked out for you. Mine is apart too. Bought the fuel injection from Rob at PCHRODS from his 69 and also have a Procharger and a T56 I'm installing. Slow progress. Glad I could help you.

Coursey

08-07-2015, 12:04 PM

Any updates?

Guyt699

08-07-2015, 12:34 PM

Any updates?

Very slow progress. Had the engine out for a cam swap and other changes and was also getting the T56 mated. Picked up my clutch and flywheel last week so hopefully will be dropping the engine/trans back in next week after I move the crossmember and cut the hole in the floor. Searched for a long time to find a column from a manual truck and the pedals. These are not easy to find. Thanks for the interest. Forgot I even had this on here! Only recent picture I have. Will try to update more often as I start making more progress.

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RobNoLimit

08-07-2015, 01:45 PM

I have tried those in the past. And I can tell you that Snail Mufflers will shorten the tire life - a LOT

Guyt699

08-10-2015, 04:45 AM

I have tried those in the past. And I can tell you that Snail Mufflers will shorten the tire life - a LOT

Haha Rob! Smoking tires=smiling faces!

Guyt699

07-18-2016, 11:54 AM

So as of Saturday my truck is back on the road. Not really a Pro Tour' but a good cruiser. It is now procharged with ProM efi and a T56. Still a lot to tidy up but at least I can drive it. Sorry, not much of a build thread.129441129442129443

Guyt699

08-22-2016, 12:29 PM

The kiddo and I rode out to Barber Motorsports Park a few weekends ago to help a friend with some Bike adjustments and decided to take the truck. If I never do anything else with this truck but cruise around with her then I'll be OK with that. Truck has been doing good other than a few bad Wilwood masters I'm using for the clutch but have that sorted now.
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2ndroundko

08-23-2016, 09:05 AM

Love the truck and I completely agree with the value of sharing this hobby with your child. My girls love my ugly truck and having them riding shot gun with me is second to nothing!

Guyt699

08-24-2016, 05:43 AM

Love the truck and I completely agree with the value of sharing this hobby with your child. My girls love my ugly truck and having them riding shot gun with me is second to nothing!

Thank you!! That is really more of what our truck is used for since we got it running. Wish I could change the title from "going pro touring direction" to "Going family fun truck direction" because that is what it has become. I was actually pulling the cab off when my wife told me that we were expecting. The truck also has history with me and my Dad who passed away in 1999 at the age of 43(I'm close to that age now) so I imagine the truck will be around for awhile.

Having a child is the best experience but having one that wants to hang out with you is another level of awesome. Seeing a spark being lit and the wheels start turning is something really special and to know you are supplying knowledge is priceless. She has helped make parts for Top fuel bikes, WERA A Superbike champions, Sema builds, Gold medalist Quad Rugby teams and even Dad's old, loud, black truck! Needless to say I'm a very proud Dad!

2ndroundko

08-24-2016, 09:42 AM

Man I love it! Got me feeling like I'm slacking I got to get more pictures of my girl in action.
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Guyt699

08-24-2016, 10:15 AM

Dude, that's awesome!! I can tell they love it and they will remember this forever. Good looking family and I really dig the truck. I had some Impala SS wheels too. Wish I hadn't sold them. I'm running impala rear disc still.

Guyt699

06-12-2017, 01:10 PM

My daughter wanted to enter our truck in a car show on her own so I told her she could if she helped wash and vacuum it. She won top 30 out of 300+ vehicles! She was super pumped (so was dad)!
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cmccuneusaf

06-12-2017, 01:45 PM

Beautiful truck! Ive wanted to do an obs with an LS/T56 or a long time haha. A procharged 454 sounds just as good if not better! Congrats on the trophy and good memories!

Guyt699

06-13-2017, 06:22 AM

Beautiful truck! Ive wanted to do an obs with an LS/T56 or a long time haha. A procharged 454 sounds just as good if not better! Congrats on the trophy and good memories!

The T56 and the new fuel injection were definitely the best upgrades and well worth it. The Procharger is nice and fun, but I probably could have done without it. Thanks for the compliment and the memories we have made so far make it priceless!