Looking for pics of 18X8's with 275's

[gotyorgoat]

Every reasonably priced wheel that I can find only offers a 9.5" wheel with a 5.5" backspace or an 8" wheel with a 4.5" backspace. After reading some threads here it doesn't seem like the 9.5" wheel with that backspace would fit my 67 Lemans. For this reason, I think that I am stuck with 8" wheels all the way around, maybe with some wider rubber on the back. Has enyone else run into this problem? I am trying to stay under $1,000 for wheels which really limits my options.

[AndrewNTX]

I have a few cars over the years with limits on the rear width, mostly old Fords w/ tight fenders. If you are stuck with an 8", that's the way it goes but you should also stick to the tire manufacturers charts on minimum rear wheel width, for a 275/35 for example recommended wheel widths are 9" (minimum) to 11". The 275 would look incorrect on an 8" and depending on the tire profile the bead may not seat properly. Go down to a 245/40 on the back.

If you are after a staggered look, you could go 18x7 up front with its narrower tire..

To find out what will really fit you have to do some of your own measuring and test fitting on your car.

Post up a picture of the car and what style of wheel you are interested in..

[gotyorgoat]

On the back now are some fugly 225/70/15. I would really like to get a 255 under the back on an 8" wheel with 5.25" of backspace, or a 275 on a 9" wheel with 6" of backspace. I would be open to a 255/60/15 on an 8" wheel for the wide old school look with a buldge, or a nice fitting 255/45/18. I need to get these now so I can do any necessary trimming before it get's painted.

The wheels that I have been looking at are
Boss 338
Riddler 695
Coys
Year Ones
MB Old Schools
??- they are all the same 4.5"BS on 8" and 5.5"BS on 9.5"

I can't find anything with a deep enough backspace except for some Weld drag wheels or something similar. I am looking for a classic 5 spoke in polished or gunmetal. Seems the only option is to go 2-piece with custom backspace for much more money.

[Mr Nick]

A 275 on an 8" rim is really pushing it. I have 285's on a 9" rim and it has a bulge to it, but nothing terrible. Compared to mine your 8" wheel is 25mm narrower but only 10mm narrower on the tire... more sidewall bulge.

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[Antti66ht]

Just as a side note, Tirerack has the best wheel tyre fitment charts I have found. Not telling to buy from them, I have no experience.

[gotyorgoat]

I know that a 275 is wide for a 8" rim, but I've seen other guys do it and always thought that the info that you get from sites like Tire rack is on the conservative side. I would be good with a 255 since it still gives the same look but the problem is that I can't find a rim with enough backspace to run anything wider than the rim itself. I would also run a 9" wheel if I could, but again have the same problem with not being able to find an inexpensive wheel with the right backspace. For some reason, all of the wheels that I am looking at have the same 4.5" or 5" backspace which doesn't seem to work.

[andrewb70]

I wouldn't run a 275 on an 8 inch wheel. I run 255s on mine and its a stretch.

What kind of car is this going on?

Andrew

[gotyorgoat]

Going on a 67 Lemans that is just used as a cruiser. I think that I will go with a 255 if I am stuck with the 8" wheel. Again, the typical backspacing on most wheels is the problem. I would go with the 9" wheel if I could find one with the right backspacing.

[Paul Huryk]

I know that a 275 is wide for a 8" rim, but I've seen other guys do it and always thought that the info that you get from sites like Tire rack is on the conservative side. I would be good with a 255 since it still gives the same look but the problem is that I can't find a rim with enough backspace to run anything wider than the rim itself. I would also run a 9" wheel if I could, but again have the same problem with not being able to find an inexpensive wheel with the right backspace. For some reason, all of the wheels that I am looking at have the same 4.5" or 5" backspace which doesn't seem to work.

The general rule of thumb for stable tires is section width - 1" for your wheel width. As an example a 255mm tire is 10.02" wide and should be mounted on a 9" wide wheel, although a 9.5" would work or an 8.5" if that is all you can get.

An 8" wheel should be mounting a 235 to 245mm tire - 275 is way too wide to work optimally.

[csouth]

Going on a 67 Lemans that is just used as a cruiser. I think that I will go with a 255 if I am stuck with the 8" wheel. Again, the typical backspacing on most wheels is the problem. I would go with the 9" wheel if I could find one with the right backspacing.

One piece wheels are made for the masses. They try to cover a lot of vehicles with 1 or 2 fitments in a width/bs. You're seeing 9.5 widths because manfacturer's are assuming its for a rear. Excuse me if I missed it, but why not just go 8"fr and 9.5 rr?
If you're really stuck on that tire width you may be better off using a 2 piece wheel. I'm not sure if the expense would outway the end result of your intended use. JMO

[Paul Huryk]

One piece wheels are made for the masses. They try to cover a lot of vehicles with 1 or 2 fitments in a width/bs. You're seeing 9.5 widths because manfacturer's are assuming its for a rear. Excuse me if I missed it, but why not just go 8"fr and 9.5 rr?
If you're really stuck on that tire width you may be better off using a 2 piece wheel. I'm not sure if the expense would outway the end result of your intended use. JMO

Volume manufacturers definitely try to cover a lot of bases with "universally sized" wheels in the one piece configuration. But as a manufacturer myself with 1pc wheels - we tried to put out a cost effective, strong wheel that only fits one particular car; 3rd gen f-bodies - thankfully we can fit 9.5" wheels in all 4 corners (thanks GM). I have 4 CMC race cars running our wheels without any problems so far - these cars pull 1.5g in the corners. So don't think that all 1pc wheels are for pedestrian sytle driving...

I know that a lot of the older GM cars cannot fit a 9.5" wheel in front - sometimes 8" is a tough fit, but it behooves a serious enthusiast to get the widest wheels correctly fitted on their car. There can be a huge difference in handling, braking, and even appearance by going 20 or 30mm more width in the front on the right wheels.

The real beauty of a multi piece wheel is the availability of different widths and BS dimensions - you can have just about anything you want. But the tradeoff is price - expect to spend $850 and up each for 3pc wheels, plus tires. And if you aren't aware, forged 1pc wheels of the same material and design are going to be stronger than equivalent 3pc ones - but you can rebuild a 3pc, unless it is a total loss.

Always a tradeoff...

[gotyorgoat]

You're seeing 9.5 widths because manfacturer's are assuming its for a rear. Excuse me if I missed it, but why not just go 8"fr and 9.5 rr?

I would go with the 9.5" in the rear, but I would need at least 6" of backspace and the most that I can find is 5.5". This puts the rim basically flush with the lip.

[Mr Nick]

I would go with the 9.5" in the rear, but I would need at least 6" of backspace and the most that I can find is 5.5". This puts the rim basically flush with the lip.

I have these Gassers, you can get them in 18x9 with 0, 13, or 33 offset... which is 5", 5.5", or 6.25" backspacing. I'm running 18x9 rims front and rear, with 255/45 front and 285/40 rears.

$130 each at your local Discount Tire. :)

http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/wheels/bg_rod_works/size/bySize.do?wd=18&bp=5|120.65|4.75&rw=9

[csouth]

Volume manufacturers definitely try to cover a lot of bases with "universally sized" wheels in the one piece configuration. But as a manufacturer myself with 1pc wheels - we tried to put out a cost effective, strong wheel that only fits one particular car; 3rd gen f-bodies - thankfully we can fit 9.5" wheels in all 4 corners (thanks GM). I have 4 CMC race cars running our wheels without any problems so far - these cars pull 1.5g in the corners. So don't think that all 1pc wheels are for pedestrian sytle driving...

I know that a lot of the older GM cars cannot fit a 9.5" wheel in front - sometimes 8" is a tough fit, but it behooves a serious enthusiast to get the widest wheels correctly fitted on their car. There can be a huge difference in handling, braking, and even appearance by going 20 or 30mm more width in the front on the right wheels.

The real beauty of a multi piece wheel is the availability of different widths and BS dimensions - you can have just about anything you want. But the tradeoff is price - expect to spend $850 and up each for 3pc wheels, plus tires. And if you aren't aware, forged 1pc wheels of the same material and design are going to be stronger than equivalent 3pc ones - but you can rebuild a 3pc, unless it is a total loss.

Always a tradeoff...

I'm sure your 1 piece wheels serve well in whatever arena they are used and this was not a knock on 1 piece wheels. I am well aware of the strength of a 1 piece forged wheel. Any forged wheel is stronger than cast due to the manufacturing process. I also never implied multipiece were better, only that they offer more fitment options.
I believe you misunderstood what I meant by "intended use". It has nothing to do with 1pc, 2pc, 3pc and how he drives that car. My comment is directed towards the fact that he may not want to invest a lot of money into wheels for a car that will not be driven a lot or as a "midnight cruiser". I personally would not invest a lot of money in a car that rarely gets driven in any fashion. With the OP stating his budget is 1k, this limits his choices...

[Paul Huryk]

I'm sure your 1 piece wheels serve well in whatever arena they are used and this was not a knock on 1 piece wheels. I am well aware of the strength of a 1 piece forged wheel. Any forged wheel is stronger than cast due to the manufacturing process. I also never implied multipiece were better, only that they offer more fitment options.
I believe you misunderstood what I meant by "intended use". It has nothing to do with 1pc, 2pc, 3pc and how he drives that car. My comment is directed towards the fact that he may not want to invest a lot of money into wheels for a car that will not be driven a lot or as a "midnight cruiser". I personally would not invest a lot of money in a car that rarely gets driven in any fashion. With the OP stating his budget is 1k, this limits his choices...

Certainly understand your points... Went off on a tear on my post.

There is a constant tradeoff between price, sizes, strength, and looks - hard to find something that hits all one's goals, even if your budget is unlimited. Fortunately there are many wheels out there from different manufacturers.

[jray1]

18x8 with 255/45/18's

[gotyorgoat]

Nice ride. Can I ask what kind of wheels and offset?

[csouth]

18x8 with 255/45/18's

Very nice!

[gotyorgoat]

Found this on UltimateGTO.com and I think that I would go this way if I can find an 8" rim with 5 or 5.5" BS. I think I could probably get a 275 on an 15X8 because there would be more sidewall.

275x60x15 rear, 225x60x15 front, both on 8" rims. I used 5" backspacing on the rear. To lower it, I had to trim the fender lip a bit and cut and flatten the ledge on the outboard side of the wheel housing and then weld it back together. Might have been OK with 5 1/2 backspacing

[WTRacing]

275/40/18 on an 18x8

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/05/43F76F3F58804E61816B07DC06936CE423230000-1.jpg (http://s119.photobucket.com/user/Bowtie502/media/Colorado%20part%202/43F76F3F-5880-4E61-816B-07DC06936CE4-2323-0000015A506D36B2.jpg.html)

on the right:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/05/C2C9122B8C2443CC8DE66BE8D9C2773A23230000-1.jpg (http://s119.photobucket.com/user/Bowtie502/media/Colorado%20part%202/C2C9122B-8C24-43CC-8DE6-6BE8D9C2773A-2323-0000015A70AA252E.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/05/5658EB6FB11748129FC939AB31AE293E23230000-1.jpg (http://s119.photobucket.com/user/Bowtie502/media/Colorado%20part%202/5658EB6F-B117-4812-9FC9-39AB31AE293E-2323-0000015E1D1E6508.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/05/23D295F9F3FA4DC2AE48B73F7977AD4923230000-1.jpg (http://s119.photobucket.com/user/Bowtie502/media/Colorado%20part%202/23D295F9-F3FA-4DC2-AE48-B73F7977AD49-2323-0000015E16B0E564.jpg.html)

[WTRacing]

here are 275/40/17 and 285/40/17 on an 17x8 wheel

never had a problem with them, drove the hell out of it, went through a couple sets like this, they wore super straight and flat.. for the people who cry about running too wide a tire for the wheel

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/05/P3120021-1.jpg (http://s119.photobucket.com/user/Bowtie502/media/3-12-11/P3120021.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/05/P3120045-1.jpg (http://s119.photobucket.com/user/Bowtie502/media/3-12-11/P3120045.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/05/P3120017-1.jpg (http://s119.photobucket.com/user/Bowtie502/media/3-12-11/P3120017.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/05/12509014-1.jpg (http://s119.photobucket.com/user/Bowtie502/media/12-5-09/12-5-09014.jpg.html)

[83hurstguy]

I run a 275/40R17 Nitto NT555R (drag radial) on an 18x8 rim. However, this is the ONLY tire I've found I would do it with. The Nitto 555 tire line runs narrow, so it fits with virtually no bulging. If I was running any other tire brand, I'd be limited to a 255 width in my opinion.

[gotyorgoat]

Thanks for the info and the pics. I thought about it a little more and with the 275 tire, I would actually be better using the 9.5" rim with the 5.5" backspace instead of the 8" rim with the 4.5" backspace. The 9.5" rim brings it in 1/4" compared to the 8", but I think I am still rubbing by about 3/4". Looks like I either pay up for the custom backspacing or hack up my wheel wells and deal with the rubbing. Crazy that nobody offers the right backspace.

[gotyorgoat]

I found these available in 18X8.5 with 5.125, 5.5, 6 or 6.25" backspacing and the 9.5 in 6.75" backspacing. Not my first choice, but these might actually fit.

[gotyorgoat]

I have been stuck on my wheel selection for months now. I am just about to order these showwheels streeters in 18X9 rears (5.25"bs) and 18X8 fonts (4.5"bs). I decided to take a hammer to the inside of the rear wheel wells to make a little more room which was really not a big deal. I am a little unsure if I should go 18X8 or 18X7 in the front. Any thoughts? I am planning to run 255/45's in the back and maybe 225's on a 7 or 235's/245's on an 8" wheel in the front.

In looking back through this post, I think these are the same wheels on Jray1's blue gto which look pretty sweet.

Does anybody know if an 18X8 would clear in the front of a 67 Lemans? Thanks for the help.

[gotyorgoat]

I finally bought these and they are going to machine an extra 1/4" off of the rear pads to give me an 18X9 with 5.5" backspacing. I think that they will fit in the back but I'm not sure about the fronts. I guess that I will find out.

I also called Coys who could have given me an 18X8 with 5.5" backspace. Lesson learned that sometimes you can call wheel companies to discuss your options.