Pro Touring rat rod/muscle cars with patina

[brownz]

Just checking to see how many of them are out there. I will be going this route on my budget nova project. The car has some rust and original paint so I will just be doing suspension, brakes, wheels and mini tubs but will not be touching the body at all.

Any pic of muscle cars with the rat rod/patina theme?

[Nicks67GTO]

Just checking to see how many of them are out there. I will be going this route on my budget nova project. The car has some rust and original paint so I will just be doing suspension, brakes, wheels and mini tubs but will not be touching the body at all.

Any pic of muscle cars with the rat rod/patina theme?

Iv'e got a 70' Chevelle Malibu and iv'e given good thought to doing this same thing in a couple of years when I start on it. The only thing not original to the car is one crappy repaint about 20 years ago. How cool would it be to have a car like this with 18" steel wheels/poverty caps and all the PT good stuff?

[71RS/SS396]

This is one of my all time favorite patina muscle cars/sleepers. 72 Nova http://www.streetlegaltv.com/news/video-1160hp-sleeper-nova-sets-the-bar-high/

[moreHP]

I like that idea actually. Hide all the go fast stuff and then rip them on the track or autocross course!

[GrabberGT]

This was running at Lonestar Goodguys. Its not finished yet with no side glass or interior, but he plans to keep it as raw as possible with the fake patina. It had some pretty sweet looking Raw Monoblock wheels on it as well.

This pic is from Bangshift coverage of the event.

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[srh3trinity]

After getting a quote for paint, I like the idea. This build I am into right now will be a finished build, but the next one hopefully will either be a C10 or a Pontiac Ventura and I will likely go with the unpolished look for that.

[JAWSS]

Did someone say C10? It's not pro-touring but you get the idea...

http://ls1tech.com/forums/multimedia-exchange/1133167-farm-truck.html

[Typhoon1015]

here my fav patina pro tour....

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[19,69camaro]

I'm all for patina, but that camaro looks like its trying too hard to be cool. Post some pictures of the Nova!

[tommycomfort]

We're kind of partial to this wagon. :-)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/03/IMG_4598_zps6a6d06b8-1.jpg

[brownz]

Tom

how could I forget! Debs wagon was the reason I got my wagon. I just hope someday it will be on the front line of the projects.

A pic of the BUDGET ($850) Nova , I will be getting my V-40 wheels, ride tech tru turn and DSE mini tubs this week. :smoke: I will be starting this car within the next couple weeks.

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[srh3trinity]

I wouldn't think of touching that. Perfect amount of patina. It will be killer with the right wheels/stance.

[gotyorgoat]

Ratsun. I had to take a picture of this one.

[Bad94]

I will never call my car a rat rod. But with 90% original paint I call it a survivor.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/03/1121028_zps70018aef-1.jpg

[brownz]

Dan, No way is that a Rat Rod! just bad A$$!!!

[mattdirocz]

My 68 I am building 6.0 carbed motor now and have a set of wilwoods on shelf that need to go on still. Has delrin bushings in control arms and Hotchkis suspension. It has about two layers of paint still in orignal color tho.
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[srh3trinity]

Maybe calling these survivors is a better term. Matt's 68 and Bad94's Nova are both awesome cars. When I think of rat rods, I think of something that is pretty crusty. These cars just have a little character.

[mattdirocz]

To be honest I would like to do the body work and paint on my Camaro but With out cashing my 401k or selling a kidney (which I considered) I could not afford it. The patina look is really growing on me and being able to set my beer on the car while working on it is a plus.

[Nicks67GTO]

Well since were all posting up pics....136K miles on the 350 and 1 crap paintjob 20 years ago. If I get to it, it might just get a few holes in the floor welded up, all options stay including the bench seat and column shift, and the sky is the limit on the rest of it.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/03/100_0882-1.jpg

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[vette427-sbc]

I love this truck.. I think he goes by Auto X a Truck on here. Very cool:
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[SRD art]

In '92 I built this 4 door Nova. Built 406 small block, TH350 w/4500 stall, 4.56s in the 12 bolt, fiberglass front bumper, hood, fenders, and trunk lid, and high 11s as my daily driver. With faded paint, scratches, dings and dents, and some rust here and there it was very ugly and a killer sleeper that fulfilled it's purpose well.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/08/4drlaunch1-1.jpg

BUT each time I took it to a cruise night I wished I had the coin to make it look as good as the other cars as mine faded into the background. Back then patina wasn't popular and the car may be more appreciated today, but I still struggle because although I've had several cars that performed well over the years (including my current p-t wagon) body work and paint has out of necessity and empty pockets always taken a back seat. I have no concept of what it means to own a pretty car and only wish to have one one day.

I guess what I'm trying to say is I'm starting to get sick of folks trying to imitate patina or calling an undone car cool because it looks undone. Although many are cool, some of the cars end up looking like a piece of garbage with expensive wheels on it. That's what I saw in that 510 Datsun above. I like some of them, like that last "rat rod" pick up I think is cool because it has a lot of character. But for a car that just needs some mild body work and paint to be finished, yet it is shown as something cool because it looks not so nice, to me it just looks like a car that isn't finished yet and makes me wonder why it isn't and when it will be. Not trying to be the devil's advocate, just voicing my point of view having had to be in this position with all my cars.

[tazzz25906112]

We're kind of partial to this wagon. :-)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/03/IMG_4598_zps6a6d06b8-1.jpg

Me too

[tazzz25906112]

I love this truck.. I think he goes by Auto X a Truck on here. Very cool:
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Great truck too...

[Gates72ss]

^^^ That is Pretty damn cool...

[rustomatic]

I love this truck.. I think he goes by Auto X a Truck on here. Very cool:
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I believe I love that truck too! That's awesome!

[65_LS1_T56]

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/03/photobucket749671357414567287-1.jpg

[LeadFootDriver]

Petina is there. Car not quite...

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[Zoomin]

Rat rod may be one of those terms that's as hard to define as pro touring.

[rustomatic]

Maybe tomorrow I can get a picture of the Falcon here. Mine is neither fully rat, nor pro-touring, whatever that is; it's got a computer, but it's for the steering; otherwise, it's got carb and points, which were both completely on purpose. It does do some things well, however, and has some of the worst paint I've ever seen (I did not do it)...

[AutoX_a_Truck?]

Glad to see some people like my truck, thanks for the compliments guys. I have always been a fan of muscle cars with patina. I like seeing an unrestored car with it's character and back story out in the open cruising around town. Patina cars are even cooler if they are sleepers. Originally I kept the patina on my truck to save time because my truck was a crazy idea that quickly became an eight month father/son thrash to bring the truck to life with a limited number of weeknights and weekends to work. Then I realized it would be a shame to cover up 60+ years of mother nature's finest work, and it would take a lot of work to make a flat black paint job look decent. And all of that work wouldn't make it any faster either!

I have always been inspired by this Nova

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[dontlifttoshift]

You guys will be glad to know that the nova pictured above is still alive and well. It looks exactly as pictured and the seats are all torn up still.......and it is stupid fast.

I also love Tyler's truck. I will always have a soft spot the AD trucks, my first hot rod was a 48 chevy PU that came out of Kansas that had no less than 5 paint jobs on it......and they all showed through. Mustang frontend and truck arms in the back, 350, 5 speed. Did btichin donuts in the gravel. Drove it every day, it was my only vehicle.

[gearheads78]

I love real patina but hate fake patina and the word rat rod. Its over used to describe any car without shiny paint. Most real rat rods are cobbled together pieces of crap.

[rustomatic]

I just think it's funny that the word "patina" has become so popular...

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[andrewb70]

This will be my next build (someday) and I don't plan on altering the exterior or interior.

https://www.pro-touring.com/~andrewb/cougar/006.jpg

https://www.pro-touring.com/~andrewb/cougar/004.jpg

Andrew

[AE fabrication]

A good friend of mine has a 70 chevelle that's missing most of its pain, part of the grill and a cracked windshield. Underneath its all shiny and new. It will run low 12s all night

[brownz]

A good friend of mine has a 70 chevelle that's missing most of its pain, part of the grill and a cracked windshield. Underneath its all shiny and new. It will run low 12s all night

No pics! Thats just wrong lol

[shizzy]

I'm putting a 50 Willys Pick up on an S10 frame. Fenderless, lots of tire, Ford 400, C6, 9" rear. NOT getting new paint.

[Twentyover]

I just think it's funny that the word "patina" has become so popular...

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Patina- the new word for primer

[rustomatic]

This will be my next build (someday) and I don't plan on altering the exterior or interior.

https://www.pro-touring.com/~andrewb/cougar/006.jpg

https://www.pro-touring.com/~andrewb/cougar/004.jpg

Andrew

1967 Cougar with manual transmission = very cool! My brother had a '67 many years ago, and it was unfortunately sandwiched between a van and a guardrail on the freeway. Running gear still worked though, so into a crappy '68 Mustang it went ($250.00 off of someone's lawn)...

Paint: It's what keeps the metal from rusting!

[Dragonsnake]

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/04/Chevelle76sunherman-1.jpg (http://s251.photobucket.com/user/blazerteam/media/Neste%201000%20bildan/Chevelle76sunherman.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/06/Chevelle76acr20112-1.jpg (http://s251.photobucket.com/user/blazerteam/media/Neste%201000%20bildan/Chevelle76acr20112.jpg.html)

468 BBC with roller cam edelbrock rpm heads..4l80 trans,and 12 inch rotors in front.

[shizzy]

Still very early in the mock up stage.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/04/photobucket972901367149169123_zpsba07b99-1.jpg

[srh3trinity]

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/04/Chevelle76sunherman-1.jpg (http://s251.photobucket.com/user/blazerteam/media/Neste%201000%20bildan/Chevelle76sunherman.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/06/Chevelle76acr20112-1.jpg (http://s251.photobucket.com/user/blazerteam/media/Neste%201000%20bildan/Chevelle76acr20112.jpg.html)

468 BBC with roller cam edelbrock rpm heads..4l80 trans,and 12 inch rotors in front.
Love this car. It looks like it lurks in corners of alleys and takes people's lunch money.

[High Plains Mopars]

Project car thats on the verge of running. Need to finish up the fuel system to get it fired.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/04/100_1843-1.jpg

[rustomatic]

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/04/Chevelle76sunherman-1.jpg (http://s251.photobucket.com/user/blazerteam/media/Neste%201000%20bildan/Chevelle76sunherman.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/06/Chevelle76acr20112-1.jpg (http://s251.photobucket.com/user/blazerteam/media/Neste%201000%20bildan/Chevelle76acr20112.jpg.html)

468 BBC with roller cam edelbrock rpm heads..4l80 trans,and 12 inch rotors in front.

It just looks fun in the worst (best) way... Ugly things deserve to be in posters, too!

[brut4s]

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[brownz]

My updated pic. Still some work to do but not to the outside

[srh3trinity]

My updated pic. Still some work to do but not to the outside

Perfect!

[gjs14]

I love the idea of this type of build but I would call it more of a street fighter and not a rat rod. The green 1160hp 72 nova is no doubt the definition of a street fighter car.

I'm thinking about dropping my trans am mustang look for more of a street fighter build.

[rustomatic]

The funny thing is that even with the "street fighter" look (as opposed to either super-pretty or rat rod), people still expect the least from your car. This makes it more fun...

Nice paint really is the surest sign of massive speed and performance...

[shizzy]

The funny thing is that even with the "street fighter" look (as opposed to either super-pretty or rat rod), people still expect the least from your car. This makes it more fun...

Nice paint really is the surest sign of massive speed and performance... yup. I get the same tilted head, confused response from people when I show them a picture of my truck after I have described it.

[TonyHuntimer]

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/04/Chevelle76sunherman-1.jpg (http://s251.photobucket.com/user/blazerteam/media/Neste%201000%20bildan/Chevelle76sunherman.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/06/Chevelle76acr20112-1.jpg (http://s251.photobucket.com/user/blazerteam/media/Neste%201000%20bildan/Chevelle76acr20112.jpg.html)

468 BBC with roller cam edelbrock rpm heads..4l80 trans,and 12 inch rotors in front.

Awesome!

Tony Huntimer
Tony's Speed Shop

[gjs14]

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My mustang has a 15 year old paint job and looks good in pic's and from 10-20 feet back but it's not show paint, I like seeing cars like this in car shown and on the street.......the chips and dings give the car character.

[Zoomin]

I agree, plus it sure makes it easier to take out and actually drive.

Here's my 20 footer.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/06/ry3D400-1.jpg

[drylegmcrae]

I had this truck for about 12 years before I started working on it. I wouldn't work on it because it was too ugly. Now it's my favorite. Oh, and no i don't consider it PT, nor a rat rod although that may be just what it is.

[R0gueNomad]

I picked the mercury two years ago when I returned from a deployment. The last owner painted the flames. The picture makes it look better than it is.

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[neongreen]

This is mine, in progress.


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[shortrack]

This repair was uncovered at the sandblasters. I was unaware of it when I bought the car. Im leaving it, I think it goes with the vibe of the car. I once saw a beautiful shiny street rod at a show with several bullet holes in the trunk lid. I talked to the guy he said he originally pulled the car out of a field and told the body guy to leave the holes there. I thought it was cool. That guy/car influenced my decision to leave it.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/05/fuelvent2Large_zps5c0bbc90-1.jpg (http://s962.photobucket.com/user/shortrack/media/fuelvent2Large_zps5c0bbc90.jpg.html)

[FlyDoc]

I love this truck.. I think he goes by Auto X a Truck on here. Very cool:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif
this truck is posted on another thread here with out the fenders. it looks sooo much better with the fenders.
I am not a fan of the patina look.

[ALLFAITH]

My pro touring/crusing and I do mean touring (9 hour road trip just completed to Columbus) 61 wagon and the 62 vert that will be more of a PT car with a 625hp fuel injected sbc stroked to 454 and a Tremec 5 speed etc.

Brad

[68firebird]

Love these cars!!! patina rules!!

[Rat Fink]

I'm not a huge fan of the patina look. I guess I had too much "patina" on my cars back when I was younger, only we called it rust, primer and crappy paint.

[SRD art]

My car's appearance was recently looking a bit rough so I washed and buffed my spray paint over dented body panels finish with some cheap cleaner/wax. It brought back the bright semi-gloss sheen of the Rustoleum rather than the more satin look it had faded a bit to. Although it brought out all the imperfections in the sheet metal I was feeling a bit giddy about the "gloss" sheen again. Didn't last long though, over night the sprinklers got it and left hard water stains all over. Then the next day one of the rare occasions here in St George, UT, it rained slightly and left red dirt dust spots all over the car. Oh well back to looking dirty and weathered again, lol!

[rchaskin]

Here is my old dog. 1971 model. My dad bought it for me in 1992 for $1600.

A guy at Chevy High Performance Nationals told me he really liked the "pantina".....

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[Mustard_N_Catchup]

I love to look of the survivor cars. Mine will more than likely be a survivor or "patina" car, cause I have money for go fast stuff or paint. LOL

[PT Sportwagon]

well that is my POS wagon all the way. primer( multiple colors) way old repaint (gone wrong) rust, dents, etc. It is slowly coming around but may never have the perfect paint. Unless I hit the lottery.

Tim

[TheJDMan]

I'm not a huge fan of the patina look. I guess I had too much "patina" on my cars back when I was younger, only we called it rust, primer and crappy paint.

I feel the same way. My cars had patina back in my high school days simply because I could not afford even a cheap paint job.

[Procharmo]

79513I used to want a laser straight, glass like paint job. But spending so much time and effort on the twin Procharged 1800hp small block and Pro-touring suspension all my enthusiasm has been drained. I'll leave her as is, rust spots and rattle can paint job intact!!!

[wayward]

My pro touring/crusing and I do mean touring (9 hour road trip just completed to Columbus) 61 wagon and the 62 vert that will be more of a PT car with a 625hp fuel injected sbc stroked to 454 and a Tremec 5 speed etc.

Brad

Those are two BAD rides!

[bs46488]

I'm considering doing a faux-tina paint on my nova. I just can't wrap myself around paying for "show finish" paint, plus my car has too many body "issues" that need to be addressed (small dings, wavy panels, no real rust issues).

have you guys ever seen that episode of Trucks?

Link to video:
www.spike.com/episodes/6s6gqx/powerblock-trucks-classix-part-5-faux-tina-season-2-ep-201

Or link to magazine article: (starts on page 32)
http://www.powerblocktv.com/magazine/index.php?pub=55100

I'd estimate probably about $200-300 in supplies to do this. Plus maybe one or two weekends.

[brownz]

Got some miles on it and one autocross. Now I need an LS swap

[Craig510]

I still have patina on my car for now. It doesn't look too bad, but it will get painted some day. With my quiet exhaust and old paint, it does make my car quite a sleeper.

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[rustomatic]

It's not really sleeping.

[srh3trinity]

I still have patina on my car for now. It doesn't look too bad, but it will get painted some day. With my quiet exhaust and old paint, it does make my car quite a sleeper.

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I wouldn't change a thing.

[wiedemab]

I still have patina on my car for now. It doesn't look too bad, but it will get painted some day. With my quiet exhaust and old paint, it does make my car quite a sleeper.

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I love it!!!!!!!!!

[brownz]

I wouldn't change a thing.

I could not agree more!

do you have a build thread? more info please!

[Craig510]

Thanks for all the positive comments guys!


I could not agree more!

do you have a build thread? more info please!

I have a build thread over on Lat-G, I just added a link in my signature.

[rustomatic]

Hey Craig,

Since you're here, I remember seeing something in your TFFN thread about hammering out the trans/driveshaft tunnel for driveshaft clearance at the rear. I seem to have reached that point with my latest round of *******ization (includes new biscuit bar for awesome forward bite!). Have you found that you need more clearance yet, or are you good at your current ride height?

I'll be cutting and re-locating about 12-15 inches of mine soon...

[Craig510]

Hey Craig,

Since you're here, I remember seeing something in your TFFN thread about hammering out the trans/driveshaft tunnel for driveshaft clearance at the rear. I seem to have reached that point with my latest round of *******ization (includes new biscuit bar for awesome forward bite!). Have you found that you need more clearance yet, or are you good at your current ride height?

I'll be cutting and re-locating about 12-15 inches of mine soon...

Warning Thread Hijack alert!

I hammered the tunnel out and it still hit pretty bad. I cut and sectioned the rear 1/3 of the tunnel and now it clears nice near the diff, but still hits further forward, about where the rear seat raiser fits. It is only rubbing on the side, and hits most often going over speed bumps, but it still hits. Next time I have the interior out, I will be fitting a new tunnel with plenty of clearance. I think most of my issues are because I moved and raised the bump stops, and the offset of the narrowed 8.8" Explorer rear end favors the right side of the car about 7/8" more than the stock diff. After my next couple of front suspension mods I will be looking to tear the car apart for a cage and a torque arm, but that will have to wait for next winter.

[go-fish]

Craig, your car is tits! Perfect look.