Review of R U Faster than a Redneck

[bret]

I got the chance to see the premeire of the new TV show called "R U Faster than a Redneck" last night. I figured i would write a review of the show for those who werent there. It debuts on Speed tonite.

What qualifies me to offer such a review?

Nothing, I just decided I wanted to hear myself talk! (or type)

My preconception of the show was that it might be a little like Honey Boo Boo, so I was prepared for the worst. I was pleasantly relieved that the show is several dozen rungs above that, to the point the comparison would be an insult.

John Reep plays the redneck host very well. His antics are a collection of every redneck one liner you've ever heard, but he carrys it off well and it doesn't get tiresome.
The redneck and tuner characters are predictable but still entertaining. The imposed drama is only a a step or two over appropriate (and much less than most such shows). You'll see some familiar faces from this forum on the show...their obvious lack of good looks and natural talent notwithstanding, they do a fine job of representing themselves and our sport.
The car selection is cool because these seem to be real cars, not something thrown together for the tv show. There are no staged stunts...the racing seems real. The segment where Yancy slaps the BMW driver is one of the highlights...you'll have to watch the show to see how that turns out!
Some will watch the show and say "hell, my car's faster than those are" or "that isn't real...it's all staged"
Whatever

It's not a documentary or even a sports event. It's ENTERTAINMENT, plain and simple.

Will it win an academy award? Not likely

Will we be watching R U Faster than a Redneck marathons on USA channel in 20 years? Probably not.

Will the show last more than 6 episodes? I certainly hope so.

It is worth watching? Absolutely!

I've also seen the second one and intend to DVR the rest of them. I'm into it!

[srh3trinity]

Bret always has a way with words. Nice review. As for myself, I am up for anything with pt rides, and the cast will likely represent the hobby well.

[GeoffP]

Thanks for the review - I'm looking forward to watching it tonight. I hope the language is kept to G or at least PG so I can watch it with my family. Otherwise I'll be staying up late so I can watch!

[bret]

Thanks for the review - I'm looking forward to watching it tonight. I hope the language is kept to G or at least PG so I can watch it with my family. Otherwise I'll be staying up late so I can watch!

To my recollection, the worst utterance is "son of a bitch". Probably wouldn't make it for the evening news, but it didn't seem out of place here.

[Thephranc]

Is it a "reality show"?

I ask because a few good car shows have come that were ruined because of the reality TV BS that was forced into it. The one that comes to mind is the shop that restors cars to factory new. I liked learning about wierd screws and clips but couldn't get past the contrived reality drama.

[Steve1968LS2]

The really important question is how did my cars look on TV???

;)

[Todd in Vancouver]

I pretty much like all car shows because like many others on here I love cars. While I enjoy watching some of the shows featuring cars that cost more than I will make in my lifetime it is for the most part interesting and at best pure fantasy. What really intrigued me is that RUFRN is about cars that not only I can relate to, I'm actually building one in my own garage. As for the Redneck part it is entertaining from what I see and it is after all TV and meant to keep the audience amused. It is not a documentary so those who have managed to work themselves up over it need to take a chill pill and relax a bit.

We've planned our evening around watching the premier tonight and I'm really excited to see some very cool cars. Steve,I better see Bad Penny whoop some butt as its one of my all time favorite cars.

[Muncie4speed]

All I know is Bill is still a better promoter then driver....probably should have gotten Tony Bolton or Kyle Tucker to wheel that Ford for ya. :smoke:

All kidding aside good to see a local on t.v. and it actually was pretty entertaining to watch. Reep had me cracking up.

[catmull]

It looked to me that it was scripted for the fairlane to loose in order to create drama for the final race against the ringer Kenny Wallace with 10k on the line. I did however enjoyed every min. I can't wait till the next episode.

[shmoov69]

Little too much play on the redneck for sure. Also could do without the cursing. Really, I'm watching it with my 3 and 7 year old boys that love that stuff cause they have seen me run around the road course more than a couple times and that is not the stuff that they need to be repeating.
But other than that, I got them all set to record!

And what the heck Bill?!?! First time behind the wheel of the Ford?!?!

[Danny Thomas]

Went into this with an open mind as several of my friends are part of the show but this truly sucked. Poor scripting for a reality show and just didn't hold my attention. I thought I was watching snippets off the cutting room floor for the Optima Challenge. The only funny part was the jabs Ken Squire was making to the host and the host calling Bill drunk. Fortunately I know Bill can't drive, thats why he host events instead of participating. Why bring in a ringer even though I have met and like Kenny Wallace, esp when you have the Finch man on hand. I know his camaro caught fire while filming, but did YearOne not think he was good enough to drive the Super Chicken? I bet Brian could have done just as good but then again, other than us ProTouring guys and every person that reads any hot rod magazine which I guess is alot, doesn't know Brian as many do Kenny. Just wait Brian will get there. Unless something improves drastically this show won't get past the episodes that have been filming. I know Mr Glass has the ability to make good shows as he was involved in Overhauling. Guys, word has it you don't make money till the 3rd season so don't go spending the money, i think you will be just like the Beanie Baby and the Teletubbies---long forgotten. Sell those shirts before you have a box full of mechanic rags. Oh yeah Steve, the Fairlane looked great plowing the grass and sand, great TV exposure and I guess we get to see Yancy tearing up the Camaro Performers camaro in an upcoming episode. Who pays for all the damage or breakage? And Bill, number one rule at all your events and others , keep body parts to the inside of the car and real drivers use both hands, its not a Sunday drive. Some who know me and Bill's nonexistent relationship may think I'm too critical but that is not it at all, this episode sucked. Can't wait till Monday to hope for the best but not holding my breath as I don't have a defibilator at home :fingersx:

[CFster]

I felt as though this show insulted my intelligence. My kids got a bigger kick out of it than I did. Just sayin...

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

Im not a redneck.. and I know there are more than a few rednecks(respectfully) here at pt.com
but I still wonder wether this show makes our type of builds respectable amongst the other driving oriented crowds.

or does it make somewhat of a mockery of the seriousness most of us put into these old american cars.. the driving, the build quality?.. when was the last time you heard "quality redneck built"

I know I know I know... entertainment.. i get it..

but does it?

[Muscle Express Ryan]

I liked it as entertainment. Whenever I see a PT car from this forum on TV I feel like it’s someone I know, like my buddy is on TV.
I agree with Mr. Vengeance on discrediting the cars and builds little, but it is all in good fun.
I think they should add some other "stereo-types" in there too: Like Beach Boys (guys from Cali or Florida), New Yorkers or Yankees, Cowboys, Midwesterners, Desert Rats, etc...
all with PT cars and race any import.
But im glad it on and I will watch and support the show.

[James OLC]

Here's my two-bit review, commentary and perhaps a bit of insight...

The Review...
This was the first show and there's bound to be some room for improvement. It's tough to jump into a brand new concept and expect to hit the mark on the first try. Personally I enjoyed the redneck banter more than some of the racing footage because (a) that's what the show is about - personalities, and (b) it seems that it's harder than a person expects to get "good" (from an enthusiasts point of view) footage from such short events. I got a kick out of the straight-man vs color guy commentary (reminded me of Major League) but the chemistry has some room for improvement (but then again so did Top Gear USA). I was really disappointed with the concept of bringing Kenny Wallace in for the finale - I thought it wrecked the opportunity to build respect for the guys and didn't think that it was needed in the first show. It would have been a cool idea for later in the season ala "Finch had to drop some apple juice off at his momma's and couldn't make it so we grabbed the first redneck with a racing licence to take his place..." but I think that it took away from the character development. Overall it's not bad and I'm optimistic that it will get better.

My Commentary
Regardless of the actual quality of the show I think that this is an awesome accomplishment. Not only have our friends acquaintances made "the big time" they were able to get our hobby on TV. That in itself is a hell of an feat and the guys did it - never underestimate how hard getting something like that across the line is. I understand the concern that it could diminish our hobby/builds/etc but to who? If you're watching this show as a muscle car / pro touring enthusiast you know the truth and you're mind is unchanged. If you're watching the show as a 14-year old import fan you're minds not going to change either - eventually you'll grow up but this show isn't going to change your mind one way or another. And if you watching the show because Duck Dynasty and Moonshiners are in repeats then you probably don't know or care much about cars either way. We're all biased regardless but we're a small part of the audience. Heck if you watch enough automotive based reality TV you already know that most of the cars in the show could be built in a week or less.

My Insight
Again - we're all biased; we know these guys and we know what they are capable of. It's easy for us to look and say that it's a foregone conclusion that the import guys are going to get their butts kicked by at least a couple of the rednecks. But don't underestimate the quality of the import drivers... My co-driver in OLOA last year (after Carl returned home) was one of the invitees for the show but turned id down because they were filming while One Lap was one. Jon is a semi-professional driver who has driven with Danny Popp, Leh Keen, and other top pros. He's a driving coach, an instructor, and makes his living driving. These import drivers are unfamiliar TO US but they are the real deal.

That was probably worth less than the two bits but what the heck. I hope the show succeeds... I hope our friends succeed... and I hope that one day the rednecks take on some Canadians for a real shootout :)

[buickfunnycar.com]

I admit it was entertaining...which is the whole point.
Not bad for the first show,work out the bugs and I hope it sticks...

[SRD art]

Anybody wanna record the episodes for me so I can form an opinion too? ;)

[srh3trinity]

I will say that I was a little surprised with how close the race between the Gallardo and the Superchicken was. Was there some sandbagging from Kenny Wallace? I just assumed that the average enthusiast with some track experience would get absolutely waxed by a pro driver from just about any division of racing.

[71RS/SS396]

I will say that I was a little surprised with how close the race between the Gallardo and the Superchicken was. Was there some sandbagging from Kenny Wallace? I just assumed that the average enthusiast with some track experience would get absolutely waxed by a pro driver from just about any division of racing.

I don't know if Kenny has ever run at CMP before, I'm pretty familar with the track and he used some seriously poor lines, also the short course they used doesn't allow bigger power to be utilized.

[67autocross]

I had an idea that the commentary would be bad ( and it was ) but even the racing looked as fake as Jersey Shore.
I will watch every episode.

[badazz81z28]

You really think so? I was thinking the Lambo would have demolished the 2nd gen Firebird in a road course. I had a feeling the Lambo was holding back in fear or wrecking is $$$ car. I get the 2nd gen has a lot of power, but the Lambo is a well designed super car. I was wondering how the BMW crushed the Mustang!! Seriously?

[srh3trinity]

I was thinking the Superchicken car would be pretty sorted out by now. IIRC the car is either a full frame build or it has DSE all the way around. That combined with a lot of power and a former pro driver made me think it wouldn't even be close.

[James OLC]

You really think so? I was thinking the Lambo would have demolished the 2nd gen Firebird in a road course. I had a feeling the Lambo was holding back in fear or wrecking is $$$ car. I get the 2nd gen has a lot of power, but the Lambo is a well designed super car. I was wondering how the BMW crushed the Mustang!! Seriously?

I have to disagree with this. Personally I was shocked the the Lamborghini was even in the running on the road course. The fact that a relatively stock (appearing) Lamborghini was as close as it was to the (highly modified) Trans Am was surprising to me. And in terms of $$$ - the Gallardo was probably the cheaper of the two cars (maintenance aside).

As I said before - based on the ones I know - the import drivers would be right up there with the best drivers in the PT ranks if we hung out in the same circles.

In watching it again I think the the on track editing is where the show has the most potential for improvement.

[Flash68]

Agree with James above. A stock base Gallardo is not much of a track car at all. They are road cars. Porsches and Ferraris are the exotics (not imports) you find on a road course on any given day.

The firechicken should have put much more distance on that Gallardo. That Gallardo is also not a $250k car like they said. It is under $200k new and can be had for under $100k used these days. The Firechicken cost more than $100k easily to build.

Of course, these are all just facts, and reality shows are not based on much of anything factual. LOL

I still Ken Squier was the best part of the show... he had me laughing pretty good.

[badazz81z28]

I know the producer has to make the show interesting, but do you guys think we are actually seeing the true story? The actual performance of the cars?

One thing I was disappointed in the show...I thought I could have really had a chance of being on it ;)

I didn't know it was strictly "tuner/import" vs American when they turned the LS RX7 away.

Bar none, that Yearone TA had my adrenaline going!

[SparkyRnD]

if you approach this (or any entertainment) show looking for 100% reality and accuracy, you are not going to like it. If you approach it as entertainment for a little while (which is what it is meant to be), then it can be a success. The advertisers for shows like this always want a gimmick as they feel that is what sells shows, and brings in viewers, which in turn brings in advertising dollars. They don't care if it's accurate, but rather if it will bring in their desired target market (which lets face it, is probably not those of us that are currently building or racing these cars).

Just enjoy it for what it is, and don't try to make it something it wasn't designed to be.

[Flash68]

if you approach this (or any entertainment) show looking for 100% reality and accuracy, you are not going to like it. If you approach it as entertainment for a little while (which is what it is meant to be), then it can be a success. The advertisers for shows like this always want a gimmick as they feel that is what sells shows, and brings in viewers, which in turn brings in advertising dollars. They don't care if it's accurate, but rather if it will bring in their desired target market (which lets face it, is probably not those of us that are currently building or racing these cars).

Just enjoy it for what it is, and don't try to make it something it wasn't designed to be.

All good points and agreed.

But to your last sentence.... I don't see anyone trying to make it something else.... it is what it is and we are just throwing out our worthless reviews and comments on what we saw, that's all.

[Ron S]

I think it was hillarious, and cool. The fact that our cars are hanging with/ competeing again Super cars is just cool. The format of picking your competition, car/driver, makes it tough on the rednecks. Bill driving a car thats not his, is a rough one, although he is familiar with land yahts, he's not used to captaining that paticular one. Hell it takes me a while to get used to my own car when I haven't been in it in a while, put me in someone elses ride and I'd be lost (how deep can you take it ,etc. etc.)

This is just fun television, I was smiling the whole time it was on. Just glad they didn't try and make our guys wrestle an aligator, at least not in the first episode.LOL Can't wait for the rest of them!

[JEFFTATE]

I enjoyed the show .
It was great seeing my buds on TV .
Plus, it was just downright entertaining .
It's nice to see musclecars / american cars being featured . It keeps them in the spotlight for future generations of car lovers ..

[avewhtboy]

I really enjoyed the show, it had me laughing for sure. Reep and Squire banter back and forth was great. Glad Bill has a good ego after watching
that driving performance, not that I could do any better.

Looking forward to watching the rest of the episodes, I suspect this being the first show, it should get more interesting as it continues.

Good work to all the people who produced/participated in this.

[rockytopper]

Last nights show was great. My favorite part was the guy talking trash in " I'm gonna beat you then I'm gonna sleep with your sisters" lol

[TheJDMan]

I liked the show but, I wish they had raised the IQ level a bit and done away with the cursing. That kind of kills it for young kids.

[GeoffP]

Yep the cussing was a bummer because I wanted to watch with my daughter - can't because of it (she's only 9).

[Bill Howell]

It looked to me that it was scripted for the fairlane to loose in order to create drama for the final race against the ringer Kenny Wallace with 10k on the line. I did however enjoyed every min. I can't wait till the next episode.

Oh how I wish I could say yes that was the case but no I ran out of talent before I ran out of HP. The Fairlane does push, and yes I was chasing a Lambo with about 300 more hp, but the fact I went into the corner too hot was my fault. It did make great tv though. Getting into a car you have never driven and having that on TV probably wasn't my best decision, but I am ok with how it all goes. The key to this show is the PT movement is getting attention and I think the producers did a great job exposing us. As others have said, this is entertainment so if you were expecting F1, you probably won't like it. I turn 55 Saturday, so yes, my driving skills have slipped a bit, but it was fun anyway and yes, I do better at promoting than I will ever drive, WHY DO YOU THINK I HAVE FINCH AS A PARTNER????? lol
Several have mentioned Kenny Wallace, why this, why that. You have only seen two of eight shows at this point, CHILL OUT, they wanted lots of different faces and if you missed the rest of TV this pasted weekend, there was another little race in Daytona that is to motorsports what the Superbowl is the Football, hence the Kenny Wallace tie-in. GEEZ!!!!! As much as I would like to think, the whole P-T.com world couldn't draw the crowd he can, and he isn't even one of the big dogs in NASCAR. I think you will see a lot of those guys talking about the show, as their fans would be our peeps as far as ratings go.
One other thing to keep in mind, the show is less than 20minutes so don't expect some huge intro, and explanation before things get rolling. Seriously, if you took just the suggestions in this one thread about how the show would be better, we would have a 2 hour show weekly. Get real guys, we have a 30 minute show, 8 episodes and who knows what else, but at least we had the door opened and we did expose our tiny nitch in the automotive hobby. We were all there for the ride, and left the heavy lifting to Bud, Greg and the guys that know how to make all this work. Lets sit back now and see where all this goes.

To the one poster that will be sure to read this post, I won't engage you or your comments, my only response to you is this..... WHATEVER! You would have been there too, but you let GREED get in the way.

[Todd in Vancouver]

Oh how I wish I could say yes that was the case but no I ran out of talent before I ran out of HP. The Fairlane does push, and yes I was chasing a Lambo with about 300 more hp, but the fact I went into the corner too hot was my fault. It did make great tv though. Getting into a car you have never driven and having that on TV probably wasn't my best decision, but I am ok with how it all goes. The key to this show is the PT movement is getting attention and I think the producers did a great job exposing us. As others have said, this is entertainment so if you were expecting F1, you probably won't like it. I turn 55 Saturday, so yes, my driving skills have slipped a bit, but it was fun anyway and yes, I do better at promoting than I will ever drive, WHY DO YOU THINK I HAVE FINCH AS A PARTNER????? lol
Several have mentioned Kenny Wallace, why this, why that. You have only seen two of eight shows at this point, CHILL OUT, they wanted lots of different faces and if you missed the rest of TV this pasted weekend, there was another little race in Daytona that is to motorsports what the Superbowl is the Football, hence the Kenny Wallace tie-in. GEEZ!!!!! As much as I would like to think, the whole P-T.com world couldn't draw the crowd he can, and he isn't even one of the big dogs in NASCAR. I think you will see a lot of those guys talking about the show, as their fans would be our peeps as far as ratings go. One other thing to keep in mind, the show is less than 20minutes so don't expect some huge intro, and explanation before things get rolling. Seriously, if you took just the suggestions in this one thread about how the show would be better, we would have a 2 hour show weekly. Get real guys, we have a 30 minute show, 8 episodes and who knows what else, but at least we had the door opened and we did expose our tiny nitch in the automotive hobby. We were all there for the ride, and left the heavy lifting to Bud, Greg and the guys that know how to make all this work. Lets sit back now and see where all this goes.

To the one poster that will be sure to read this post, I won't engage you or your comments, my only response to you is this..... WHATEVER!
You would have been there too, but you let GREED get in the way.

Bill I thought the show was great and its kinda funny that everyone hears truth is stranger than fiction nobody could have scripted a drive through the sand and grass like you did but hey it's about fun and entertainment and from what I see it looks like all of you were having a good time and it shows through.

So being new to the PT world should I be asking for all your autographs on a poster now before all of you blow up into big Hollywood stars and won't talk to us little folk anymore ? :poke:

Seriously how do I get a poster or some swag?

[Bill Howell]

The only swag at this point is the Racing Rednecks shirts we had done and we will have a link to those soon. We also have a picture of Brian, Yancy Brad and Myself that we can sign and send out. We are really waiting on the network to come up with Swag, it is their game, we are just here for the ride, so we don't want to invest too much in swag. However, if you ask any of us for our autographs, as some did at the premier, it is somewhat funny to us...haha

[badazz81z28]

The only swag at this point is the Racing Rednecks shirts we had done and we will have a link to those soon. We also have a picture of Brian, Yancy Brad and Myself that we can sign and send out. We are really waiting on the network to come up with Swag, it is their game, we are just here for the ride, so we don't want to invest too much in swag. However, if you ask any of us for our autographs, as some did at the premier, it is somewhat funny to us...haha

I admit, it is kind of cool to say, Hey I have talked to that guy...

Is it too early to ask if there are plans to travel across the US for shooting? You guys can drive my car against imports any day! You just need to come and film in Cali.

[Todd in Vancouver]

I admit, it is kind of cool to say, Hey I have talked to that guy...

Is it too early to ask if there are plans to travel across the US for shooting? You guys can drive my car against imports any day! You just need to come and film in Cali.

Hey can you even imagine how we feel in Canada? Don't come to early because you may need snow tires on those muscle cars ;)

PS
That was a joke because we haven't even had snow in Vancouver this year and I was working on my car with the garage doors open today. :)

[makoshark]

I know this site is in full support of the show. I watched it as a pro-touring enthusiast and wanting to like the show, but I felt it was rather weak. I did not like the show and feel it does not have a very long life on air

[Steve1968LS2]

Little too much play on the redneck for sure. Also could do without the cursing. Really, I'm watching it with my 3 and 7 year old boys that love that stuff cause they have seen me run around the road course more than a couple times and that is not the stuff that they need to be repeating.
But other than that, I got them all set to record!

And what the heck Bill?!?! First time behind the wheel of the Ford?!?!

Yea, tone down the cursing.. I was watching with a 7 and 8 year old.. a touch is ok, but there was a LOT..

Was fun to watch.. sorta surprised the BMW hung..

The Fairlane is HARD to drive if you're not used to it.. has odd steering. So, it's not all Bills fault.

Oh, and Danny.. Stielow drives with one hand.. even though it's not the "right" way to do it.. :)

[Bill Howell]

The Fairlane is HARD to drive if you're not used to it.. has odd steering. So, it's not all Bills fault.


Thanks Steve and I would love to use that as an excuse. That is a very nice way of saying it WILL NOT TURN, however, I was there for the rest of the shows, so I know what happens later in the same corner so I will just sit here and blame it on my lack of talent..... :)

[bret]

Thanks Steve and I would love to use that as an excuse. That is a very nice way of saying it WILL NOT TURN, however, I was there for the rest of the shows, so I know what happens later in the same corner so I will just sit here and blame it on my lack of talent..... :)

Talent exists in many forms, not all of which involve turning the steering wheel at "right" time. Would the show have been as interesting minus your lawn mowing expedition?

My opinion is that you did exactly what needed to be done at just the right time!

[Bill Howell]

Talent exists in many forms, not all of which involve turning the steering wheel at "right" time. Would the show have been as interesting minus your lawn mowing expedition?

My opinion is that you did exactly what needed to be done at just the right time!

If only it had been planned......ROFLMAO!

[eric1967]

I have enjoyed it. Ken Squire cracks me up. Bill you will catch hell over the Fairlane for ever.

[JEFFTATE]

That Fairlane has a TON of power !

[32deucecoupe]

I would have liked to seen a one minute walk around on a pt car, say one per episode just to showcase the hard work and creativity. Most of these cars I will never see in real life...

[Slick68]

That Fairlane has a TON of power !

Well, it has to since it weighs 3 tons. LOL!!!! By the way, Bill, were you drunk? haha!

The first episode was ok, and left me wanting more quality. The second episode was much better, and I agree there needs to be less cursing. The squabbling between Reep and Squire is hilarious. Reep's comments about the cars and their driver's is comical as well. The Suba-loser. HAHA

I was glad to see that Badler kid get outrun. He was a total douchebag, IMO. His trash talking in Japanese was getting on my nerves. The producers should have put different subtitles instead of what he was actually saying. lol

[CHRIZ28]

Just watched the second episode tonight. Liked both, but the second was definatly better. Can't wait to see the rest of the season!

Chris

[icemanrd19]

I would have liked to seen a one minute walk around on a pt car, say one per episode just to showcase the hard work and creativity. Most of these cars I will never see in real life...

agree. that would be nice

[Nologic]

Agree with James above. A stock base Gallardo is not much of a track car at all. They are road cars. Porsches and Ferraris are the exotics (not imports) you find on a road course on any given day.

The firechicken should have put much more distance on that Gallardo. That Gallardo is also not a $250k car like they said. It is under $200k new and can be had for under $100k used these days. The Firechicken cost more than $100k easily to build.

Of course, these are all just facts, and reality shows are not based on much of anything factual. LOL

I still Ken Squier was the best part of the show... he had me laughing pretty good.

Actually the Gallardo is $250k (http://www.dupontregistry.com/autos/Search/DRauSearchResults.aspx?sorttype=1&makeid=41&makename=Lamborghini&modelid=13&modelname=Gallardo) new. Far as under $200k...you must be thinking of it's half brother the Audi R8 (http://www.dupontregistry.com/autos/Search/DRauSearchResults.aspx?makeid=6&makename=Audi&modelname=R8&modelid=18&catid=0) which typically spec's out around $180k.

The Gallardo isn't much of a track car....hmm I don't know about that (Superleggera) (http://www.caranddriver.com/news/lamborghini-gallardo-lp570-4-superleggera-spyder-performante-edizione-tecnica-photos-and-info-news)(Super Trofeo) (http://www.autoblog.com/2012/10/17/2013-lamborghini-gallardo-lp570-4-super-trofeo-racecar-is-unveil/). Granted Lamborghini doesn't race like others in the VW Group...but it does jump in the ring from time to time.

Anyways the race was as close as it could be...there is no way the owner of the Gallardo was going to risk $25k+ in damages playing bumper cars around corners to edge out the T/A for a possible prize of $10k...as soon as the T/A got a head of him on the rolling start it was all over, as the track was to small to really present much in the way of over taking anyone safely.

I honestly expected the T/A to out distance the Gallardo slightly in the straights...then for the Gallardo to pull the distance short in the corners...anyways I don't think the track allowed us to see the better parts of ether car...and the prize money isn't worth it for high dollar cars to take risks. I'm sure there is some yahoo out there that has money to burn and is willing to bang up a quarter million dollar car for $10k...but most guys owning such cars are to strapped...or unwilling to have their car in the shop for 3 months getting repaired...when the value of most of those cars drop like sacks of wet cement...let alone one that has been banged up.

I think the guy with the Gallardo was nuts to begin with...timed laps...sure...head to head...nuts.

Anyways American muscle is way better bang for the dollar, than nearly anything Euro.

Case and point magnuson tvs2300.
Audi R8 (http://www.stasisengineering.com/products/signature-series/supercharger-r8-v10-52-2010)
Chevy Camaro (http://www.lingenfelter.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?screen=prod&product_code=mag012360171-bl&stor..#.UTQtvTfX_xU)

That is a huge price difference for the same damn part.

[Flash68]

Actually the Gallardo is $250k (http://www.dupontregistry.com/autos/Search/DRauSearchResults.aspx?sorttype=1&makeid=41&makename=Lamborghini&modelid=13&modelname=Gallardo) new. Far as under $200k...you must be thinking of it's half brother the Audi R8 (http://www.dupontregistry.com/autos/Search/DRauSearchResults.aspx?makeid=6&makename=Audi&modelname=R8&modelid=18&catid=0) which typically spec's out around $180k.

The Gallardo isn't much of a track car....hmm I don't know about that (Superleggera) (http://www.caranddriver.com/news/lamborghini-gallardo-lp570-4-superleggera-spyder-performante-edizione-tecnica-photos-and-info-news)(Super Trofeo) (http://www.autoblog.com/2012/10/17/2013-lamborghini-gallardo-lp570-4-super-trofeo-racecar-is-unveil/). Granted Lamborghini doesn't race like others in the VW Group...but it does jump in the ring from time to time.



Not sure why you just linked some pages with a whole range of different Lambos and none of which are actually on this show.

The car in the show is a BASE 2004 Gallardo.... it ain't a Superleggera. It's ain't a LP570. It ain't a Super Trofeo.

And a 2004 base model can be had for under $100k. But I get that better TV is made by saying it's a $250k.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/112_0310_2004_lamborghini_gallardo/viewall.html

I was just educating a little. My bad.

I have driven a base Gallardo. Cool car for sure but I would expect Finch's Camaro to destroy it. I am pretty sure he was sandbagging for good TV. ;)

And thanks but I am familiar with the R8.

Oh, and REEP, it's Gallardo with a "Y" sound not an "L" sound. LOL! I heard Carolla givin him some crap for that. Ha.

[Nologic]

Not sure why you just linked some pages with a whole range of different Lambos and none of which are actually on this show.

The car in the show is a BASE 2004 Gallardo.... it ain't a Superleggera. It's ain't a LP570. It ain't a Super Trofeo.

And a 2004 base model can be had for under $100k. But I get that better TV is made by saying it's a $250k.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/112_0310_2004_lamborghini_gallardo/viewall.html

I was just educating a little. My bad.

I have driven a base Gallardo. Cool car for sure but I would expect Finch's Camaro to destroy it. I am pretty sure he was sandbagging for good TV. ;)

And thanks but I am familiar with the R8.

Oh, and REEP, it's Gallardo with a "Y" sound not an "L" sound. LOL! I heard Carolla givin him some crap for that. Ha.

hmm a whole range of different spec Gallardo's, where a price of $250k is not unreal for a new car. You are correct a used 04 with 22k in miles can be had for under $100k. It just comes down to new price or current market value, I had assumed that year was $250k new...but as you pointed out it was $165k, my mistake there.

I'd be more interested in timed laps than seeing folks with over priced cars flinching & freezing up every time it looks like there is going to be some bumper car action...since the prize money isn't worth it.

[rockytopper]

Rednecks 2 Imports 1. I have GTR paint on my redneck mobile it improved my lap times by 2+ seconds LOL.

[Slick68]

Reep cracks me up! "Will you hand me that salt, over there?" "I like salt on my watermelon."

[Steve1968LS2]

Well, it has to since it weighs 3 tons. LOL!!!! By the way, Bill, were you drunk? haha!

The first episode was ok, and left me wanting more quality. The second episode was much better, and I agree there needs to be less cursing. The squabbling between Reep and Squire is hilarious. Reep's comments about the cars and their driver's is comical as well. The Suba-loser. HAHA

I was glad to see that Badler kid get outrun. He was a total douchebag, IMO. His trash talking in Japanese was getting on my nerves. The producers should have put different subtitles instead of what he was actually saying. lol

Actually it weighed under 3600 lbs when I sold it to Yancy.. it's big, but that doesn't make it heavy :)

[Slick68]

Actually it weighed under 3600 lbs when I sold it to Yancy.. it's big, but that doesn't make it heavy :)

I was just joking about the weight. I know Fairlanes/Torinos are about the same weight class as Chevelles, so I figured it was about that much. Are those full frame or sub frame cars?

[Bigblue73]

Classic - Payment of 10 grand in Mason Jars - Classic. LMAO! Keep it up guys!

[DartorDemon]

Im not a redneck.. and I know there are more than a few rednecks(respectfully) here at pt.com
but I still wonder wether this show makes our type of builds respectable amongst the other driving oriented crowds.

or does it make somewhat of a mockery of the seriousness most of us put into these old american cars.. the driving, the build quality?.. when was the last time you heard "quality redneck built"

I know I know I know... entertainment.. i get it..

but does it?

I say mockery. I watched the first episode and thought the competition was fun to watch, but the rest of the show was horrendous.

[19,69camaro]

I say mockery. I watched the first episode and thought the competition was fun to watch, but the rest of the show was horrendous.

I completely agree. The worst part was when the Redneck posse ganged up on the tuner guys. They weren't funny and didn't add anything to the show.

My other gripe is the lack of technical specs on the cars. C'mon this is a car show on a racing network lets see the cars!

Lastly I was really suprised how well that e36 M3 with 200k hung with that new mustang even though it had 150 less hp.

[badazz81z28]

Rednecks 2 Imports 1. I have GTR paint on my redneck mobile it improved my lap times by 2+ seconds LOL.

I have seen those GTRs with 800+hp. I think there was one at OUSCI in 2011. They are some awesome performing cars, but for $100K sticker, they better be. All wheel drives helps alot, I wonder how the ZR1 would compare.

[XLexusTech]

Sorry for my ignorance... but the BMW Yancy issue... the BMW beat him into the corner, then the camaro went further inside.. I am guessing the BMW "took" the inside line away..... but why is that wrong if he got there first?

[BuzzKillian]

Just my observation... it looked to me like the BMW cut down on Yancy... and the comment about holding your line confirmed that. I'm thinking the "slap" let him off pretty easy.

[XLexusTech]

Cut down? explain.. I am trying to learn a bit.

[Van B]

Sorry for my ignorance... but the BMW Yancy issue... the BMW beat him into the corner, then the camaro wnet furhter inside.. I am guess ign he "took" the inside line but why is that wrong if he got their first?

No ignorance on your part. If you have raced competitively you'll know that the corner belonged to the BMW as evidenced by his car being hit in the rear of the door and quarter. Yancy tried a low percentage dive bomb move bouncing over the curb. That kind of stuff will get you black flagged if you do it more than once in real competition. I'm guessing his comment about the BMW driver not knowing anything about a proper line was scripted and not his ignorance.

[badazz81z28]

Now that I have watched a few episodes...30 min is quite not long enough for the show. It seems like its rushed and they cut a lot out! Maybe the show should just focus around 2 competitors and compete in a braking, straight line, autocross, and road course. Best over all wins rather than rushing through a re-cap of many drivers.

[vintageracer]

Bitch Slap Em!!!

[XLexusTech]

Just watched Episode 3... totally redeemed itself... much more evenly matched... and more sportsmen like... very cool.. nice to see a evenly matched head to head run.
Good job

[BuzzKillian]

No ignorance on your part. If you have raced competitively you'll know that the corner belonged to the BMW as evidenced by his car being hit in the rear of the door and quarter. Yancy tried a low percentage dive bomb move bouncing over the curb. That kind of stuff will get you black flagged if you do it more than once in real competition. I'm guessing his comment about the BMW driver not knowing anything about a proper line was scripted and not his ignorance.

More and more, I see my perception is different than everyone elses. I took it from Yancy's comment, that he felt he had the line and got cut off.

[socoken]

I watched it for the first time last night. The redneck bit is way overplayed, but that just strikes me as them making schtick out of it. The PT cars are stunning. Props to anyone that has a car on that show.

I liked the show, but I think it would be more entertaining if it was a little more "car" oriented than "redneck-comedy" oriented. Just the sound of those 600hp v8s gassing it at the drop of the green makes me want to watch it again. It is a legitimately cool idea for a show.

[Van B]

The Beemer guy could have given him room, but the racing line sure looked to belong to him. It was all probably staged anyway so it doesn't matter.

[68sixspeed]

I watched it for the first time last night. The redneck bit is way overplayed, but that just strikes me as them making schtick out of it. The PT cars are stunning. Props to anyone that has a car on that show.

I liked the show, but I think it would be more entertaining if it was a little more "car" oriented than "redneck-comedy" oriented. Just the sound of those 600hp v8s gassing it at the drop of the green makes me want to watch it again. It is a legitimately cool idea for a show.

X2, totally agree, neat concept but muzzle Reep and show more on the cars and on track events.

[badazz81z28]

The Beemer guy could have given him room, but the racing line sure looked to belong to him. It was all probably staged anyway so it doesn't matter.

Lol...I highly doubt it. Both cars sustained some costly damage. The BMW guy said that was carbon fiber $$$.

[Van B]

X2, totally agree, neat concept but muzzle Reep and show more on the cars and on track events.

Reep and Ken Squier are the best part of the show. It is cool to get some exposure to our hobby, but most viewers still won't "get it."

Also, I saw a for sale thread for the Camaro and was tempted to ask if it has a new fender ;)

[DRJDVM's '69]

No more driving for you Bill....

[MarkM66]

Lol...I highly doubt it. Both cars sustained some costly damage. The BMW guy said that was carbon fiber $$$.

The slap looked pretty legit to me.

I'm sure people have been sued for less...

[shmoov69]

So Bill, at the end of the season are you going to spill the beans about what was "drama" and what was "real" on the show?!? PLEASE?!?? LOL!

[Bill Howell]

What you see was pretty much how it was. No made up drama at all that I have seen yet. The SLAP has been played up more than it really should be, but for his actions, Yancy was grounded from racing anymore that week. That is why I drove the Fairlane. He could stay and banter the punks, but no more driving.
My spins were real. I screwed up and lost the races. No do overs, no retakes, the racing was real in the second round and final round. No one knew what the outcome was going to be til the race happened. Some of the punks sandbagged on their qualifying runs but that did not help their cause.

[shmoov69]

That's cool Bill,Thanks for the insight. Didn't know if the spin in the TA (you driving) was for real or not and also if some of the "qualifying" races were set so that a certain import would win. Also if the 10k was really meant to be paid out. Just those kind of Q's! Overall it's a pretty good show and really glad it showcases our "style" of vehicles! Just wish it didn't have as much cussing, not a big deal for us here but an awful lot for my 3 & 7 year old boys that are glued to the tv watching the show!

[19,69camaro]

So driving an import makes you a punk? From the sound of it a bunch of those guys are pretty cool and have even stopped in to say hi. Can't we all just get along?

[Payton King]

From my watching of the show, Yancey did the rolling start on the inside and the BMW was on the outside. It appeared to me that the BMW out braked him but cut accross his line giving him nowhere to go. He bumped over the rumple strip trying to avoid the "dive bomb" from the outside.

[Todd in Vancouver]

So driving an import makes you a punk? From the sound of it a bunch of those guys are pretty cool and have even stopped in to say hi. Can't we all just get along?

NOPE :rotfl::machine:

[Bill Howell]

So driving an import makes you a punk? From the sound of it a bunch of those guys are pretty cool and have even stopped in to say hi. Can't we all just get along?

SERIOUSLY??? Don't go all PC on us here, damn.

There were two groups at the show, Rednecks and Punks. Sorry if that isn't PC for you but for the guys that were there, we all know and are used to the names by now. We all got along fine and usually eat dinner together, but they are still the Punks, don't know what else to call them as a group.

[Bill Howell]

That's cool Bill,Thanks for the insight. Didn't know if the spin in the TA (you driving) was for real or not and also if some of the "qualifying" races were set so that a certain import would win. Also if the 10k was really meant to be paid out. Just those kind of Q's! Overall it's a pretty good show and really glad it showcases our "style" of vehicles! Just wish it didn't have as much cussing, not a big deal for us here but an awful lot for my 3 & 7 year old boys that are glued to the tv watching the show!
The network had compliance officers there to see all was fair and done right. The budget for the show included $10K X 8 (shows) incase the "Punks" won all 8 episodes. Yes, it was run what you brung and hope you brung enough. Cussing was/is about what you see at any track at any given time. I was asked to say GD punk one time and refused, that is going over the line with me personally. The guy understood and actually apologized. Hell, Dam, ***** all common words in public now, just go to any restaurant and you will hear that or worse, but yes, the language does make it tough for people with small kids watching.

[shmoov69]

That's cool Bill, I understand that it is "common" nowadays, just sucks that it has to be that way!

That is amazing that there actually was a chance that y'all could theoretically loose every episode!! crazy!!

[Van B]

From my watching of the show, Yancey did the rolling start on the inside and the BMW was on the outside. It appeared to me that the BMW out braked him but cut accross his line giving him nowhere to go. He bumped over the rumple strip trying to avoid the "dive bomb" from the outside.

The responsibility for a clean safe pass lies with the overtaking driver. One of the most basic rules of the road in racing. Unless it was Yancy's first day ever on a road course he knew where the turn in point was and where the BMW would be. Irresponsible low percentage move.

One of the first things taught in driver's school is that no race was ever won in the first turn on the first lap. A little patience and he would have had him for lunch on the next straight.

[19,69camaro]

SERIOUSLY??? Don't go all PC on us here, damn.

There were two groups at the show, Rednecks and Punks. Sorry if that isn't PC for you but for the guys that were there, we all know and are used to the names by now. We all got along fine and usually eat dinner together, but they are still the Punks, don't know what else to call them as a group.

Not being pc, just was being a pit pissy that day. I guess because I could be considered a punk too. I'm young, have a muscle car and an import. Plus its fun to root for the underdog.

[BuddyP]

. I was asked to say GD punk one time and refused, that is going over the line with me personally.

Good for you Bill!

I've enjoyed the episodes so far. Good to see our cars getting some airtime. As said above some language is a little rough for the little ones so I usually watch the "repeat" at midnight.

[MarkM66]

Agree with James above. A stock base Gallardo is not much of a track car at all. They are road cars. Porsches and Ferraris are the exotics (not imports) you find on a road course on any given day.

The firechicken should have put much more distance on that Gallardo. That Gallardo is also not a $250k car like they said. It is under $200k new and can be had for under $100k used these days. The Firechicken cost more than $100k easily to build.

Of course, these are all just facts, and reality shows are not based on much of anything factual. LOL

I still Ken Squier was the best part of the show... he had me laughing pretty good.

I think they call it SuperChicken. I personally don't seen anywhere near 100k in it. :hmm:

[XLexusTech]

Shhhhh dont you know this a ones sided discussion... dont go off bringing logic into it.... your supposed to just accept the Pack mentality... :-)

The responsibility for a clean safe pass lies with the overtaking driver. One of the most basic rules of the road in racing. Unless it was Yancy's first day ever on a road course he knew where the turn in point was and where the BMW would be. Irresponsible low percentage move.

One of the first things taught in driver's school is that no race was ever won in the first turn on the first lap. A little patience and he would have had him for lunch on the next straight.

[Flash68]

I think they call it SuperChicken. I personally don't seen anywhere near 100k in it. :hmm:

My bad. I've called Firebirds Firechickens since I was 16 so I think it just came out that way. lol

As far as 100k, or anywhere near it, add up the cost of these impressive parts, plus the car, plus a shop's labor, and that number is pretty dang high. A Butler built all aluminum motor is big bucks.

Body:
Flush mounted glass
YEARONE wheel flares and front spoiler
Mini-tubbed for tire clearance

Driveline:
535 cubic inch Pontiac V8
built by Butler Performance
Aluminum block and heads
11:1 Compression ratio
Comp roller cam
650 hp/700 lb-ft torque

5-speed Tremec transmission built by Pro-Motion
Hydraulic clutch mechanism
Ram dual-disc clutch with aluminum flywheel
Moser 12-bolt rear axle with 3:73 gears
Heavy-duty aluminum Be Cool radiator
Serpentine belt system with billet pulleys

Wheels-Tires-Brakes::
18″ x 10″ Fikse FM10 front wheels
18”x12” Fikse FM10 rear wheels
285-35-18 BFGoodrich KDW front tires
335-35-18 BFGoodrich KDW rear tires
Baer Racing 6-piston calipers with
14″ 2-piece rotors front and rear
Adjustable brake proportioning valve

Suspension:
Detroit Speed and Engineering hydroformed front subframe system
Integrated sub-frame connectors
Detroit Speed and Engineering Quadra-Link4-link rear suspension
Koni adjustable coil-over shocks with Eibach springs