Baer Disc Brake Kit for GM C-Clip

[projectfolly]

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Baer rear disc brake kit purchased directly from Baer for an A body 12 bolt.
I ended up going back to stock and never used the kit.
The parts have been installed for mock up but never used.
The rotors are 12 inch dia.
PBR calipers.
Braided steel caliper lines.
Custom stainless steel lines with spring armor made for an A body 12 bolt.
Included but not shown are parking brake cables.

This kit is for C clip rear ends and non staggered shocks such as '67 Camaro
In order to install there may be some machining required of the o.d. of the axle flange in order to index correctly in the rotor. I found out the hard way and ended up chipping the I.D. of one of the rotors slightly. This has no impact on the functionality or fitment of the

List Date: 12/31/2012

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[Mofoe73]

Do you have a part number? also a side picture of the caliper (red logo?)

[texasdvldog]

Do you have a part number? also a side picture of the caliper (red logo?)

I have the same kit...I'm pretty sure they don't have a red logo

[Chocolate Apocalypse]

I have the same kit as well, no red logo on the rear calipers.

[Mofoe73]

im just trying to do a lil home work on this item. as in how hard is the machining work? can one do it with out any special tool, what all is involved (dropping the rear end and taking it to the shop?) and also what the summit racing price actually is

[projectfolly]

im just trying to do a lil home work on this item. as in how hard is the machining work? can one do it with out any special tool, what all is involved (dropping the rear end and taking it to the shop?) and also what the summit racing price actually is

I'll post more pics of the calipers no later than tomorrow.

What part number are you referring to, the kit part number or part numbers on the calipers?

The calipers do not have a red logo on the side.

As for machining the axles, it’s a fairly easy job for a competent machine shop, however, I would test fit the rotors to the axles first. You might find that your axle flanges do not need to be machined as there seems to be variation of the axle flanges between years and makes - such as Chevy vs. Pontiac for example.
In my case, I was going to use this kit on my '69 GTO Judge project. I had a 12 bolt rear out of a Chevelle in the car at the time. The rotors fit the axle flanges with minimal clean up using an abrasive pad on a die grinder.
I later decided to go back to stock so I put the original rear back in the car.
I'm now working on a '68 Firebird, but found that I cannot use this kit on the Pontiac 8.2 rear since the caliper brackets will not work, due to the bearing retainer design which is used to retain the axles. The F car axle flanges would not fit the rotors by a long shot, so they needed to be machined.
Also, '68 F cars have staggered shocks, and this kit is designed to work with non-staggered shocks as both calipers are in the same position on their respective sides of the axle.

You should'nt have to pull the whole rear out of the car to install the kit.
In order to install the discs, you will have to pull just the axle shafts out of the rear, in order to remove the drum backing plate and install the caliper mounting brackets. At that point, if the flanges need to be machined to fit the rotors, you'd be ready to take the axle shafts to a machine shop. Any machine shop should be able to do this or anyone that can run a lathe competently.

I have no idea what the Summit Racing price is. Like I mentioned in the original post, I bought the kit directly from Baer.
Hope this helps.

[Mofoe73]

Thanks for the reply. The reason i wanted to see the kit part number is so i can make sure it fits my 69 chevelle 12 bolt.
Other questions i had, is it doesn't look like you re-use the stock drum in hat since it looks like the parking prake is on the outside of the disc - doesnt that make it a c-cip eliminator kit?
The staggered stock thing, im not sure my car had them - i can look tonight.
i see what u mean my lite machining, i may be able to do myself with a small grinder stone. A picture of the flange ground down would help tell the story since your taking pics.
I wanted to see the side picture to see if it matches on the fronts i have, which i think it does
69455
let me know

[projectfolly]

No problem.
I'll try to dig up the bill of sale from Baer and get you the part number. I had this mocked up on a '69 Chevelle 12 bolt so I know for a fact it fits. In fact, the sainless axle lines are also a direct fit. The small brackets at the end will install to the stock shock brackets on the 12 bolt into holes that already exsist. I had the brake lines custom made by Inline Tube. These are an added bonus over the off the shelf kit.
You are correct, you do not re-use the stock drum in hat or drum parking brake set up as the calipers have an integral parking brake. You just hook up the parking brake cables provided with the kit to the calipers and route the other ends to the stock parking brake cable provision on your frame.

As for the C-Clip situation, the caliper mounting brackets replace your stock drum brake backing plate, which does not retain the axles. So, you will still have to use the stock C-clips.
The main difference between the Chevy and Pontiacs of that era, is that the Pontiacs axle bearings out at the end of the shaft were retained by a pressed on bushing. On your Chevelle rear axle, the bearings are retained in the housing and the axles just slide out once the C clips are removed.
As for staggered shocks, A bodies (Chevelles, GTOs, etc) were not staggered, the rear shocks attach to the rear end on the same side - the rear, so you are all set there.

As for pics of my Chevelle 12 bolt rear, unfortunately I ended up selling it, and I didnt take any pics of it. Sorry!

In looking at the pic you attached, it looks like you have pretty much the same set up on the front I had on my Judge before I ended up changing direction and going the resto route. Same brakes, control arms, Baer Trackers, the whole deal!
The rear brakes will be a good compliment to your fronts.

Again, I'll post more pics tonight.


Regards....

[projectfolly]

The Baer part number for the kit is 4302075.
Added a pic of the parking brake cables...

6950369504Cost at the time was $875.

[Mofoe73]

Part number 4302075 turns up a 1967 f body part number? I don't kno. I called Baer and its been superceeded by the lastest version.
How long have you had the kit?

[projectfolly]

The kit works for both A car and F car. It works on '67 F car, more specifically '67 Camaro because '67 Camaros have non staggered shocks and C clips like the Chevelle.
Again, I bought this from Baer, for my Chevelle 12 bolt rear and they recommended the part number.
In fact, right on the Baer invoice it states: Sport Rear 64-72 A-Body, '67 F.
The kit has been superceeded by Baer since the calipers have been discontinued by PBR/GM as they were used on 4th gen F cars.

[Mofoe73]

Thanks for the info, you sound legit no doubt, I have a call into Baer to confirm that part number 4302075 . It will probably be monday before I hear back from them. I am interested. They do match the front i have, but like president Reagan, Trust but verify. Will talk monday if you still have them.

[shane38]

IF any one needs emergency brake cables for these calipers message me have a set for chevelles and a set for novas camaros stock baer parts never used!!!

[Mofoe73]

Here is the email i recieved back from Baer regarding part number 4302075

<<<Hey Eddie,

I show that being an old number that was then changed over to 4302111 (not sure why the number change).

Can you get me some part numbers off the brackets to verify?

The change over to 4302111 is correct for the A-body

[projectfolly]

Here is the email i recieved back from Baer regarding part number 4302075

<<<Hey Eddie,

I show that being an old number that was then changed over to 4302111 (not sure why the number change).

Can you get me some part numbers off the brackets to verify?

The change over to 4302111 is correct for the A-body

Assuming he meant the caliper brackets, I dont recall part numbers on the brackets. If there were, they were probably stickers that had long since been taken off and discarded when I installed the kit on my 12 bolt.

I'll look again this evening to confirm.

Assuming the part numbers arent on the brackets, beyond that, I dont know what else I can tell you.

If you arent comfortable with the deal, then by all means, dont buy the kit.

[projectfolly]

Sale pending...

[projectfolly]

Sold!
Thanks Eddie!