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CodexGigas
11-28-2012, 10:02 AM
Ok,I have an 1985 Oldsmobile Cutlass(G-Body). I want to Upgrade My Suspension into some more for Track use.
I got that old Edelbrock Suspension Kit They put out a couple Years ago with Hotchkis Sway Bars(Front and back) and Spohn upper and lower A Arms.
I've been Looking at the Umi Performance Stage 4 Suspension and Detroit Speed as well. But I'm Leaning towards Umi simply because I Feel Detroit Speed is a bit over Priced.
But are there any other Suspension Companies I may be over Looking for My over Looked G-Body?
marolf101x
11-28-2012, 11:04 AM
We have all kinds of parts for that car including bolt-in rear coil over kit, modular front sway bar, geometry corrected upper and lower control arms, TruTurn, etc. (we just finished development on the TruTurn, so it's not on the site just yet but will be soon).
If you are going to track the car I suggest our Track Quality (TQ) coil-overs which provide a single rebound adjustment as well as high and low speed compression adjustment.
Here's a link to the page with everything:
http://www.ridetech.com/store/musclecars/?subcats=Y&features_hash=V283.V328
Here's the link to the TruTurn page (which shows a nice "coming soon" for G-Bodies):
http://www.ridetech.com/store/tru-turn/
CodexGigas
11-28-2012, 11:14 AM
That Tru Turn Looks very Promising, Do You Guys have a Date for it yet? And will it work if I go with another kind of Suspension besides Ride Tech?
analyte
11-28-2012, 12:20 PM
Ride tech and Detroit Speed may be a bit overpriced in your opinion, but you are benefitting from all the R&D they put into developing those parts. And to make my point, their R&D happens right in front of everyone at each and every Good guys, ASCS events, plus others throughout the year.
Nothing against UMI, but I've yet to see them at a event displaying their parts for everyone to see both on display and the track.
To ensure I'm not labeled a fan boy, I have products from all the manufacturers mentioned above, plus others, so I have no bias for anyone. I just don't think price should be the main factor.....
Kerry
CodexGigas
11-28-2012, 01:36 PM
Same can be Said for Hotchkis, But They're not trying to take a huge Chunk out of My Bank Account either.
Twentyover
11-28-2012, 08:17 PM
Just off the top of my head, there's BMR, Hellwig, SPC, Speedtech, Heidts- and if you want to talk a bout wallet draining, the GMR- and there's more- a review of the companies listed on the column to your right will yield names of most of the places that build suspension parts that may be of interest to you.
To be honest, I'm disappointed in Heidts and Hotchkis- Heidts, because the old management built ho-hum (but shiny) street rod suspensions, and thought that the epitome of suspension design was a 1971 Pinto (I haven't been to their page lately, but I understand the new management is much more attuned to to things that we like.) Hotchkis because they saddled us with bump steer and reduced steering ratio with B body spindles when a switch to Coleman Impala spindles which were readily available for half the price of their upper control arms could have minimized these problems. Now they seem to be pointing to tall spindles that have reduced bump steer that maintain steering ratio, so I don't have that problem with the product.
I'm sure if I looked closely at any manufacturer here, I could find some fault with them.
I'm on board with analyte- Determine what you want the suspension to do, then pick the spplier that best answers your questions. This is not an inexpensive hobby we have.
CodexGigas
11-28-2012, 10:57 PM
Just off the top of my head, there's BMR, Hellwig, SPC, Speedtech, Heidts- and if you want to talk a bout wallet draining, the GMR- and there's more- a review of the companies listed on the column to your right will yield names of most of the places that build suspension parts that may be of interest to you.
To be honest, I'm disappointed in Heidts and Hotchkis- Heidts, because the old management built ho-hum (but shiny) street rod suspensions, and thought that the epitome of suspension design was a 1971 Pinto (I haven't been to their page lately, but I understand the new management is much more attuned to to things that we like.) Hotchkis because they saddled us with bump steer and reduced steering ratio with B body spindles when a switch to Coleman Impala spindles which were readily available for half the price of their upper control arms could have minimized these problems. Now they seem to be pointing to tall spindles that have reduced bump steer that maintain steering ratio, so I don't have that problem with the product.
I'm sure if I looked closely at any manufacturer here, I could find some fault with them.
I'm on board with analyte- Determine what you want the suspension to do, then pick the spplier that best answers your questions. This is not an inexpensive hobby we have.
Thanks for the Info, I appreciate it. This was the Type of Post I was Looking for. I Know it's not a cheap Hobby, But You also try to Look for the best Deals as well.
UMI Performance
11-29-2012, 06:18 AM
Nothing against UMI, but I've yet to see them at a event displaying their parts for everyone to see both on display and the track.
Hello, Thanks for the comment and you are correct in some sense. We do actually attend quite a few product shows through out the year however not enough. We are expanding this for 2013 and hope to have them covered very well in 2014. We are currently building two pro-touring cars for the events, a '79 Monte Carlo to showcase our G-Body line and a '72 LeMans to showcase our A-Body line. We currently do all our product testing at a local testing track we rent. If you would like to see some pictures and info on this please check out our Facebook page.
UMI is still a growing business, we would love to attend every show and every event in the country, however it is possible at this point... but we are increasing this as we can. We are a full manufacturer as well, 99.9% of the products you see on our site or have purchased are built right here at our facility, right down to spacers, adjusters and bushings. The manufacturing process takes a lot of time and energy but allows us to offer the best product we can at a competitive price with thorough quality control. Many of our competitors out source their products or parts of their products and we do virtually none of this. This has absorb some marketing time but again, we are working on changing that.
Over the course of the next two years you will see UMI's presence at events grow, we have already added staff to cover this and we are preparing for it. We are dedicated company growing very quickly with a great following.
I hope this helps,
Ryan
www.facebook.com/umiperformance
csouth
11-29-2012, 07:55 AM
All the advice given here is great. The best said though is to ask yourself what you want to do with the car. It would be a shame to have tons of money wrapped up in suspension for a car that rarely sees spirited driving. You also need to know the harmony of all the parts and how the work when changed. You very well may be able to keep some of the parts and upgrade others. There are a lot of good performing cars here in the forum that are not running "suspension systems". If you haven't checked it out, you might want to pick up "How to Make Your Muscle Car Handle" http://www.amazon.com/Make-Your-Muscle-Handle-Performance/dp/1934709077.
Whatever route you choose, I don't see any bad choices in the ones you've mentioned.
analyte
11-29-2012, 06:25 PM
Hello, Thanks for the comment and you are correct in some sense. We do actually attend quite a few product shows through out the year however not enough. We are expanding this for 2013 and hope to have them covered very well in 2014. We are currently building two pro-touring cars for the events, a '79 Monte Carlo to showcase our G-Body line and a '72 LeMans to showcase our A-Body line. We currently do all our product testing at a local testing track we rent. If you would like to see some pictures and info on this please check out our Facebook page.
UMI is still a growing business, we would love to attend every show and every event in the country, however it is possible at this point... but we are increasing this as we can. We are a full manufacturer as well, 99.9% of the products you see on our site or have purchased are built right here at our facility, right down to spacers, adjusters and bushings. The manufacturing process takes a lot of time and energy but allows us to offer the best product we can at a competitive price with thorough quality control. Many of our competitors out source their products or parts of their products and we do virtually none of this. This has absorb some marketing time but again, we are working on changing that.
Over the course of the next two years you will see UMI's presence at events grow, we have already added staff to cover this and we are preparing for it. We are dedicated company growing very quickly with a great following.
I hope this helps,
Ryan
www.facebook.com/umiperformance
Ryan,
I hope my comment didn't come across in the wrong way as I'm pleased that you guys are helping support our hobby. I'm just glad to see you guys will be attending more events in 2013 and beyond as it will allow you to build personal relationships with your customers and solidify your base. I believe it's important for those with products to be out at PT events or Goodguy's showing off their hardware, but I understand that companies have to build momentum first. Myself, I like to hold the parts and see them in action since that will insure I'm getting parts for my particular needs.
I hope to see you guys around!! I'll stop by and say hello!!
Kerry
UMI Performance
12-02-2012, 02:45 PM
Ryan,
I hope my comment didn't come across in the wrong way as I'm pleased that you guys are helping support our hobby. I'm just glad to see you guys will be attending more events in 2013 and beyond as it will allow you to build personal relationships with your customers and solidify your base. I believe it's important for those with products to be out at PT events or Goodguy's showing off their hardware, but I understand that companies have to build momentum first. Myself, I like to hold the parts and see them in action since that will insure I'm getting parts for my particular needs.
I hope to see you guys around!! I'll stop by and say hello!!
Kerry
Hello Kerry,
No not at all, I didn't take it as any type of a bad comment. We are working on increasing our presence and hopefully some day we can see you at a show!
CodexGigas
12-02-2012, 09:48 PM
After Asking around on the Site, I'm most likely going with the Umi Suspension. Thanks everybody for Your Input.
UMI Tech
12-03-2012, 09:03 AM
After Asking around on the Site, I'm most likely going with the Umi Suspension. Thanks everybody for You Input.
Awesome, thanks for considering UMI.
Let me know if you have any questions.
UMI builds everything right here in Philipsburg, PA - USA and we look forward to making your car handle!
ramey
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