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Ravenworks
11-07-2012, 01:02 PM
New to the board, my name is Russ Murray. Several of you are on my facebook page so I decided to check out the forums! I work for Ravenworks/Porter Mufflers here in Maple Grove, MN and currently have no project cars, but that will change soon!

BMR Sales
11-07-2012, 02:11 PM
Hey Russ! Welcome aboard........ what type of car are you looking to build?

Ravenworks
11-07-2012, 02:21 PM
1970-73 Firebird, haven't found one yet that isn't junk or restored!

SRD art
11-07-2012, 02:25 PM
Welcome along! I'll have a street/ strip 11 second Nova for sale soon, just sayin... :)

Ask a question? My wagon has a dual 2.5" into a 3" Flowmaster Y pipe which goes into a Dynomax bullet, then over the axle and exits out the back through dual resonator tips. See page 21 of my build thread (link in my signature) for photos of the system. I had planned on putting another muffler out back just upstream of the resonators but I had to just get it thrown together in time for my move across country and didn't have time to decide what muffler to get. I had a Flowmaster 40 series where the Bullet is now, and I really liked it's sound, but the frame bracing I built doesn't allow room for it anymore.

Now the car is ridiculously loud, and at lower rpms around 1500-2000 it pops like a nasty old glass pack. I can't stand that sound. When I'm on it full throttle it's still a bit raspy for me. Here's a link to a video...
Pumkinator at Full Throttle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_PomV7g_Mg&feature=plcp)

Ultimately I just want a smooth mellow low tone cruising and loud but not raspy when I'm into it. I'm curious, your mufflers are pretty small diameter (which would work great in my limited space out back), but being small are they fairly raspy like a glass pack?

In your opinion would another small muffler on the back side help me all that much? Thanks for your experience and insight...

BMR Sales
11-08-2012, 06:36 AM
1970-73 Firebird, haven't found one yet that isn't junk or restored!


Here you go....... 73 Firebird Project $3000 in Lake Lillian MN

http://stcloud.craigslist.org/cto/3390879542.html

Ravenworks
11-08-2012, 07:47 AM
My wagon has a dual 2.5" into a 3" Flowmaster Y pipe which goes into a Dynomax bullet, then over the axle and exits out the back through dual resonator tips. See page 21 of my build thread (link in my signature) for photos of the system. I had planned on putting another muffler out back just upstream of the resonators but I had to just get it thrown together in time for my move across country and didn't have time to decide what muffler to get. I had a Flowmaster 40 series where the Bullet is now, and I really liked it's sound, but the frame bracing I built doesn't allow room for it anymore.

Now the car is ridiculously loud, and at lower rpms around 1500-2000 it pops like a nasty old glass pack. I can't stand that sound. When I'm on it full throttle it's still a bit raspy for me. Here's a link to a video...
Pumkinator at Full Throttle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_PomV7g_Mg&feature=plcp)

Ultimately I just want a smooth mellow low tone cruising and loud but not raspy when I'm into it. I'm curious, your mufflers are pretty small diameter (which would work great in my limited space out back), but being small are they fairly raspy like a glass pack?

In your opinion would another small muffler on the back side help me all that much? Thanks for your experience and insight...

Wow, that is a crazy-cool build you have going there and your exhaust man is an artist - I need his name so I can refer folks to him!!! I also listened to the video, definitely a glass-pack sound. Porter Mufflers use stainless steel wool, springs, and a 16 gauge shell so there is much less of the raspiness and practically zero resonance because of the thick shell. It gives a unique, mellower sound than most mufflers with a straight-through design. Here are a couple of links...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQtUHtrH3Es
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F2qlRhUmdQ&feature=share&list=UL4F2qlRhUmdQ

The narrower body is perfect for applications like your's with limited space and we've put them on our flowbench, they are flow about the same as most every performance muffler. Stick with the single muffler, sometimes using two that aren't "tuned" to be used in series can cause some unusual results! One potential issue you may run into is that they are heavier (because of the casing) so make sure it's well supported. Give them a listen!

Ravenworks
11-08-2012, 07:50 AM
Here you go....... 73 Firebird Project $3000 in Lake Lillian MN

http://stcloud.craigslist.org/cto/3390879542.html

Oh, you're killing me! lol
I have some of your products on my boy's 1993 Trans Am... Love your stuff!

BMR Sales
11-08-2012, 08:52 AM
Oh, you're killing me! lol
I have some of your products on my boy's 1993 Trans Am... Love your stuff!

:smoke:

Well.... let me know if you pick up a Firebird..... we got some killer stuff for them!


Take a look at the link below detailing an install that a member here completed with our Ford 9 in. kit in his 1973 Firebird:

https://www.pro-touring.com/showthread.php?80483-BMR-Torque-Arm-Installed-on-my-73-Firebird/page2&highlight=TORQUE+ARM

Ravenworks
11-09-2012, 07:15 AM
Here you go....... 73 Firebird Project $3000 in Lake Lillian MN

http://stcloud.craigslist.org/cto/3390879542.html

It was a little rougher than described, oh well... If I could just find a solid shell I'd be thrilled as that is all that will remain once I'm done!

BMR Sales
11-12-2012, 12:00 PM
It was a little rougher than described, oh well... If I could just find a solid shell I'd be thrilled as that is all that will remain once I'm done!

One of my co-workers has a 73 Firebird, but it is in Florida which is a pain in the rear to get it to MN.

Ravenworks
11-12-2012, 02:38 PM
One of my co-workers has a 73 Firebird, but it is in Florida which is a pain in the rear to get it to MN.

I just moved here from Florida a year ago, what part?

dontlifttoshift
11-12-2012, 03:09 PM
DUDE!! Porter mufflers are the bomb! Welcome to the board!

BMR Sales
11-13-2012, 07:26 AM
I just moved here from Florida a year ago, what part?

We are in Tampa...... FL to MN is a big change huh? MN is a great place to raise a family IMO.

Ravenworks
11-14-2012, 02:33 PM
DUDE!! Porter mufflers are the bomb! Welcome to the board!

Glad to hear you like them! I think they have about the coolest sound of all mufflers, but I may be a bit biased! lol

Ravenworks
11-14-2012, 02:34 PM
We are in Tampa...... FL to MN is a big change huh? MN is a great place to raise a family IMO.

I lived in New Tampa for 18 years! Yea, big change! Minnesota is far more family oriented, nice people up here. Florida is great but it's tough to form long-term friendships there since folks move in and out all the time. Right now, though, I am missing the 80 degree weather!!!