View Full Version : Overhaulin "jumps the shark"?
Foudie
08-03-2005, 08:00 AM
I loved the 56 Chevy show last night but did anyone else notice what next weeks build is? It is a freakin Honda :pat: ! Is anyone else afraid that this great show is going the way of Hot Rod TV? It looks to me like producers are pandering to the ricer crowd to broaden their rating base. Pleae God don't allow this to happen!
Bigblue73
08-03-2005, 08:47 AM
Oooooooh Nooooooooo! I was only a matter of time before the show went to the dark side. After last nights episode and three cars later. I think the budget may call for something a little less cost prohibitive. Bolt on and go!
MrQuick
08-03-2005, 09:04 AM
its still some ones f-ed up car to be fixed. don't lose hope.
ssdeuce
08-03-2005, 09:08 AM
I wonder if they will get Xzibit to help out and the guys from West Coast Customs.
Foudie
08-03-2005, 09:12 AM
I wonder if they will get Xzibit to help out and the guys from West Coast Customs.
:rotfl:
MuscleRodz
08-03-2005, 09:27 AM
It must have been on compelling story to do an import. So far I have not been real enthused about the direction of this season of cars.
Mike
Steve1968LS2
08-03-2005, 09:36 AM
Does anyone here even know what "jump the shark" is in reference to?
I do and it make me both old and nerdy at the same time.......
MuscleRodz
08-03-2005, 09:40 AM
Does anyone here even know what "jump the shark" is in reference to?
I do and it make me both old and nerdy at the same time.......
I guessing same as "jumping ship". I have never heard that term before.
Mike
rocketman
08-03-2005, 09:44 AM
well,you know they build watchers submit.so if they get a ricer thats what they do.that group proably goea all they build are hot rods.
Steve1968LS2
08-03-2005, 09:45 AM
I guessing same as "jumping ship". I have never heard that term before.
Mike
Bzz.. wrong answer..
A free PHR sticker and issue of Engine Masters to the first person to post the answer.. and it can't be the thread starter since he probley knows..
Refering to Fonzie jumping the shark?
O&C Racing
08-03-2005, 09:48 AM
Does anyone here even know what "jump the shark" is in reference to?
I do and it make me both old and nerdy at the same time.......
I think it's when a TV show is past it's prime and is trying to do anything to pull ratings back in....
Richz68
08-03-2005, 09:49 AM
Isn't it in reference to Jaws II ??? :hammer:
Travis B
08-03-2005, 09:50 AM
I wonder if they will get Xzibit to help out and the guys from West Coast Customs.
thats just funny to even think about....I can foose and exhibit picking out wheels and paint schemes together!
JMarsa
08-03-2005, 09:52 AM
It's the defining moment when the show has reached it's peak. Orginated from http://www.jumptheshark.com in December 24, 1997. Pay up :headbang:
edit: from:
Origin of this phrase comes from a Happy Days episode where the Fonz jumped a shark on waterskis. Thus was labeled the lowest point of the show.
--JMarsa
Steve1968LS2
08-03-2005, 09:52 AM
I think it's when a TV show is past it's prime and is trying to do anything to pull ratings back in....
More specific please :)
Steve1968LS2
08-03-2005, 09:52 AM
It's the defining moment when the show has reached it's peak. Orginated from http://www.jumptheshark.com in December 24, 1997.
--JMarsa
But WHERE did the phrase come from?
JMarsa
08-03-2005, 09:56 AM
Steve,
See my edit.
Origin of this phrase comes from a Happy Days episode where the Fonz jumped a shark on waterskis. Thus was labeled the lowest point of the show.
--JMarsa
O&C Racing
08-03-2005, 09:57 AM
But WHERE did the phrase come from?
Origin of this phrase comes from a Happy Days episode where the Fonz jumped a shark on waterskis.
Taken form UrbanDictionary.com :)
trapin
08-03-2005, 09:58 AM
The term du jour for that specific moment when a television show—or anything, really—goes from good to bad.
O&C Racing
08-03-2005, 10:04 AM
Thanks to a new couple in Hollywood we also have a new phrase...
"Jumping the couch"
Nine Ball
08-03-2005, 10:07 AM
I wonder if this will be Chip's first Honduh. That car might be worth a fortune to the ricer community!
Steve1968LS2
08-03-2005, 10:12 AM
Refering to Fonzie jumping the shark?
WINNER!!!
Q. What is jumping the shark?
A. It's a moment. A defining moment when you know that your favorite television program has reached its peak. That instant that you know from now on...it's all downhill. Some call it the climax. We call it "Jumping the Shark." From that moment on, the program will simply never be the same.
The term "jump the shark" was coined by my college roommate for 4 years, Sean J. Connolly, in Ann Arbor, Michigan back in 1985. This web site, book, film, and all other material surrounding shark jumping, are hereby dedicated to "the Colonel."
The aforementioned expression refers to the telltale sign of the demise of Happy Days, our favorite example, when Fonzie actually "jumped the shark." The rest is history.
PM me you addy and your prize will be forthcoming.. :)
JMarsa will also get a prize for his google skills in finding the website..
PM me them addresses..
See.. the interweb can be an educational place.. lol
Steve1968LS2
08-03-2005, 10:14 AM
Origin of this phrase comes from a Happy Days episode where the Fonz jumped a shark on waterskis.
Taken form UrbanDictionary.com :)
Oh hell, send me your addy too.. although 69rs was the winner you and JMarsa get honable mentions and a bit o' schwag..
:)
I do and it make me both old and nerdy at the same time.......
Great, now I've just proven that I too am old and nerdy at the same time!
Oh well, old nerds love free stuff! Thanks.:geek:
Ralph LoGrasso
08-03-2005, 10:18 AM
The beginning re-runs of Happy Days are on TVland right now. Did you know Fonzie didn't always wear his leather jacket?
He wore a black gang jacket and hat in one (the first?) episode, then a tan cloth jacket for an episode or two.
If I'm right, I'll really start feeling old!:help:
Ralph LoGrasso
08-03-2005, 10:27 AM
I didn't see the black gang jacket, but he's had the cloth one on for atleast 4 episodes so far. The leather jacket did make two appearances, though. He wore it when he was going to drag race.
JoshStratton
08-03-2005, 10:41 AM
Who is Fonzie?
JoshStratton
08-03-2005, 10:42 AM
Just kidding.
ssdeuce
08-03-2005, 10:44 AM
Does anyone here even know what "jump the shark" is in reference to?
I do and it make me both old and nerdy at the same time.......
It is a reference to when Fonzie jumped the shark on Happy Days from there the show was down hill.
JoshStratton
08-03-2005, 10:45 AM
You have to read the whole post...that was answered several times.
MuscleRodz
08-03-2005, 10:59 AM
Origin of this phrase comes from a Happy Days episode where the Fonz jumped a shark on waterskis. Thus was labeled the lowest point of the show.
--JMarsa
I remember watching Happy Days as a kid (not on Nickelodean). I don't remember that episode though. That just sounds bad.
Mike
That episode was late in the shows run.
But before "Joanie Loves Chachi"!:hammer: :offtopic:
Steve1968LS2
08-03-2005, 11:18 AM
But before "Joanie Loves Chachi"!:hammer: :offtopic:
When the Fonz moved into the Cunninghams.. that was bad.. when the lame kid joined the show that was worse..
Most all show have their "shark jumping" moments..
Jumping the shark was just a prime example of a show that has ran out of ideas..
The question is has Overhauling resorted to shark jumping? Only time will tell..
TA219
08-03-2005, 12:11 PM
Damn, I actually saw the interview with the fonz that talked about the whole "jumping the shark" phrase and how it was started.
The 1st time TV paid off and i was too late :lol:
Nine Ball
08-03-2005, 12:19 PM
We should call this project Honda "The Shark Jumper". Maybe we can talk Monster Garage into building a true shark jumper from a Honda too.
THX 138
08-03-2005, 12:58 PM
He wore a black gang jacket and hat in one (the first?) episode, then a tan cloth jacket for an episode or two.
nick at night said that fonzie could only wear his leather jacket at first when he was on his motorcycle so it could be considered motorcycle safety gear and not a gangsters attire. So they always stuck him on his cycle whenever they could.
gchandler
08-03-2005, 02:18 PM
I personally think that Pimp my Ride with x to the z xzibit is by far the best automotive show on television. The guys at WCC have a sense of humor about the cars that they are building and seem to really have fun with it. I also like that they put together some really unique stuff, pacer, minivan, brat, etc.
tripower
08-03-2005, 04:23 PM
I just hope that the 20 year old kid truly appreciates the time, money, effort and value that went into that 56 Chevy!!! He did seem to comprehend most of it.
ProdigyCustoms
08-03-2005, 04:40 PM
I thought the graphics were horrible. Not Chips most creative moment. Maybe even the great Foose runs out of creative genius. He's still my hero though!
TonyL
08-03-2005, 05:21 PM
what freaks me out about last nights show was that it might has well have been some other persons car. I mean, which part exactly was the original car? The dudes car wasnt overhauled. It was REPLACED. The car was totally unorginal, sat horrably high in front, and just lacked foose flare all over. total disappointment.
compare the level of work that happend to the 53 chevy truck they grafted 55 sedan headlights and bumper to. The show has become "shave doorhandles, paint and throw parts at a car for a week." I still dig foose's work though, but it's clear that the timetable and production staff are taking over.
KUL FIR CHICK N
08-03-2005, 05:48 PM
You hit the nail on the head, Tony. Remember, its a show, and its all about ratings. They're trying to appeal to the general "car loving" public. The thousands of members here are hard core. I think the general public is more into "bling", or at least that's probably what the producers have decided. By the way, I've worked on two of the Overhaulin builds, and its quite a thrash. They may have just decided to scale back the builds to avoid burning everyone into the ground. Didn't see the '56 so I can't comment specifically.
MuscleRodz
08-03-2005, 05:53 PM
I thought the graphics were horrible. Not Chips most creative moment. Maybe even the great Foose runs out of creative genius. He's still my hero though!
I agree. I was disappointed as well.
Mike
JohnnyGMachine
08-03-2005, 06:02 PM
Hey, the nice thing about building a Honda for the show is they won't need to put a modified engine in the car. According to the general ricer community each sticker added to the car ads atleast 5-10 horsepower. The bigger the sticker the bigger the horsepower increase. They'll just need somebody to bolt on a cat-back-can and a cold air pipe throw paint and wheels on it and done. They could do the car in one day. How much horsepower would a Foose sticker add??!!
LOL - now I'm not busting on the import guys - the ricers are the posers. The car I replaced with my current daily commuter 5.0 Mustang with was a pretty quick little ride. I had bought a 90 Civic Si, dropped in a japanese spec engine, header, high flow cat and a "quality" stainless cat back system. I managed to raise the horsepower from 109 (stock) to about 160. Now OK OK that's not much but when you're in a car that weighs in at exactly 2095 lb.s - it's not a bad power to weight ratio for a commuter car. It would run a high 14 with the stock computer and get 38 mpg! Not bad for a $2200 inverstment. Looked pretty good with coilovers and a nice set of 15" aftermarket lightweight wheels. Sorry I know this is NOT the import board so I will stop now.
I think just out of sheer curiosity I'd like to see what Chip would do with an import - it'd be like a train wreck. I don't think you'd be able to look away.
John
vanzuuk1
08-04-2005, 02:29 AM
I dont have any problem with import cars, if youve been in a wrx its hard to dismiss the tuner car scene.
A lot of stuff that kids drive is done poorly but when I was in high school there was a lot of cars that were goofy.Stickers, half primered, mags in the back and cherry bombs.
The backwards hat and seat all the way back with fifty cent blasting is just the latest version of the mullethead with quiet riot cranked up.
Alot of these kids are just into cars like you or me, my car usually gets a thumbs up from them.
I do laugh when a 100 pound kid with pimples give me his "hard" look at a red light .Hes got music about gang wars playing and his mother folds his clothes.
Also I dont know if we should use the term "ricers" in this overly sensitive age.
Does anyone agree, or am I on my own?
Q ship
08-04-2005, 07:02 AM
........or am I on my own?
No, definitely not. A serious motorhead is just that, regardless of what he drives. I've seen a lot of imports at track days......
GT350Clone
08-04-2005, 07:29 AM
It doesn't matter WHAT they build - until Courtney :woot: is back, I'm not watching anymore! :crying:
JohnnyGMachine
08-04-2005, 08:09 AM
Dirk, you had me howling in the office here today.... "I do laugh when a 100 pound kid with pimples give me his "hard" look at a red light .Hes got music about gang wars playing and his mother folds his clothes."
That's histerical!
John
bretcopsey
08-04-2005, 08:27 AM
...from the application page of the official website!?!?
I guess since the engine started that qualified it. I have had both my wife and brother tell me they looked into trying to get my Camaro on the show and that statement stopped them. I told them it wouldn't matter anyway since we are in Ohio. The producers should consider branching off with a Midwest and East Coast version. Maybe make it like the biker build off challenge series.
I think so much time was spent trying to find a replcement for the 56 Chevy that they had to do a rush job on the build, hence the prime it and paint it makeover. It was pretty lame compare to past builds, but considering what they went though it seemed to turn out alright-except for the graphics.
I agree about the Honda, I already have only a slight interest in the show now because of the cars/trucks that are made over. If they are moving away from the classics, I'll probably stop watching.
Must be in running condition?!? Quite a few of the cars haven't been in "running condition". The Road Runner didn't even HAVE an engine!
Foudie
08-04-2005, 08:59 AM
It doesn't matter WHAT they build - until Courtney :woot: is back, I'm not watching anymore! :crying:
Yeah where did she go? She is the main reason I was watching! :ripped:
Edit- I just emailed her official web site asking where she went. I will keep you all posted.
Ralph LoGrasso
08-04-2005, 09:17 AM
I dont have any problem with import cars, if youve been in a wrx its hard to dismiss the tuner car scene.
A lot of stuff that kids drive is done poorly but when I was in high school there was a lot of cars that were goofy.Stickers, half primered, mags in the back and cherry bombs.
The backwards hat and seat all the way back with fifty cent blasting is just the latest version of the mullethead with quiet riot cranked up.
Alot of these kids are just into cars like you or me, my car usually gets a thumbs up from them.
I do laugh when a 100 pound kid with pimples give me his "hard" look at a red light .Hes got music about gang wars playing and his mother folds his clothes.
Also I dont know if we should use the term "ricers" in this overly sensitive age.
Does anyone agree, or am I on my own?
The WRX and sti defintiely deserve respect. I'm not a big fan of imports, but a buddy of mine who is just bought an '04 WRX. The car is not all that great under 4500-5k, but once that turbo spools, it pulls pretty good from about 5k to redline. Handles really well too. The sti and Evo are cool cars as well. Now, your normal bone stock civic with a huge muffler, that's another story...
Steve1968LS2
08-04-2005, 09:37 AM
I like imports for what they are.. but you will spend a TON of $$ making a Honda as fast as a stock domestic car like a 2000 Camaro.. Plus they concentrate too much on HP and forget about torque..
I love my Subie WRX though.. fun car :)
BTW.. the prizes for the first ever "jump the shark" trivia game were mailed out.. hmm.. did PHR just "jump the shark"???
Steve1968LS2
08-04-2005, 09:39 AM
Q: How do you make a small fortune customizing an import like a Honda?
A: Spend a large fortune..
No way! PHR rocks!:git:I'm a reader for life! (says the winner of the "jump the shark" trivia game) And I'm not biased and cannot be bribed.
Ralph LoGrasso
08-04-2005, 10:01 AM
I like imports for what they are.. but you will spend a TON of $$ making a Honda as fast as a stock domestic car like a 2000 Camaro.. Plus they concentrate too much on HP and forget about torque..
I love my Subie WRX though.. fun car :)
BTW.. the prizes for the first ever "jump the shark" trivia game were mailed out.. hmm.. did PHR just "jump the shark"???
That is so very true. My friends got a '92 Civic with a body kit, wheels/tires, normal ric...er import mods. Cold air intake, exhaust, and that's about it for performance. He's got a G-tech pro or some other type of device, so for kicks one night we go out and see what his car and my truck will do. My truck ran something pathetic like 17.05@80mph, and his civic could not better the time, although close. We're talking a 5000lb, 200hp '96 Tahoe sport on 33" toyos with a miss in the #3 cylinder at the time. His 120hp, 2500lb honda couldn't touch it. Now he's spending oogles and oogles of money for a dart shortblock ($8k+) turbo setup, etc. etc. After all is said and done, he'd be happy with a mid 12 second car, which is cool and fast for an import(atleast a non supra, evo dsm, sti type car). I just don't get the rational behind it. Spend $15k to run 12s, be lucky to get 5k out of it when you sell it. I guess it's kind of like PS in a way. My '01 SS will run mid 12s w/ bolt-ons and DRs. More power to him for being different, though.
Steve1968LS2
08-04-2005, 10:17 AM
A good example in import thinking are the huge exhaust systems (ie. fart cans).. they bolt these on because they are told they will gain xx horsepower.. and they probley do gain some on the very top end of their curve.
They don't realize that the complete lack of backpressure is more than likely killing thier bottom end and wiping out what little torqe they had to begin with.
I had a guy race me at Carlsbad.. he had an integra with a turbo and the car was stripped to the bone.. no interior.. floopy body panels and it was trailered to the track. We lined up and he beat me by about a tenth (I ran 13.1 I think). I was driving my mostly stock (at that time) 2000 SS Camaro.. after the race he strutted up me and was all proud that he beat me. I then reminded him that he couldn't even drive his car on the street and I could cruise mine to Vegas, with the AC on and get 27mpg..
And car can be fast if you poor enough money into it but that doesn't make it a smart decision..
DanT69
08-04-2005, 10:28 AM
I drive a Mazda Protege5 everyday.... So I can't knock imports.
As for imports on Overhaulin; I would rather see one of those mid-80's rear-drive Toyota corolla's. I thought about buying one some time back, seeing that it was rear-drive, but people want a small fortune for them. I think its because they have "legend" status in drifting.
Foudie
08-04-2005, 10:33 AM
Hi Everyone,
I want to take a minute to thank all of you for your supportive emails since my absence from Overhaulin'. You are incredibly devoted fans, and it really means a lot to me.
Your emails have made me smile, laugh and cry.. They are all very touching. In the midst of this busy time, it's been so nice to visit my site and find your kind messages there!
I really am not at liberty to discuss the situation at this time, but many people have said they will be contacting Discovery and TLC (via the contact areas on their web sites and fax) with their comments and concerns. There may be answers for you there..
Please take care, and stay tuned for career updates!..
With much love and appreciation,
Courtney
ProdigyCustoms
08-04-2005, 04:28 PM
Yeah where did she go? She is the main reason I was watching! :ripped:
Edit- I just emailed her official web site asking where she went. I will keep you all posted.
Courtney left to pursue other opportunities, i was actually kind of thinking the good thing about doing a ricer is they may get a hot chick!
Protour_Pinto
08-04-2005, 07:36 PM
I have a couple of pet peeves with the show.
If you have a newer car they take the smog off it along with little things like mirrors and front licence plates. All ticketable offences in California.
Some of the cars are still not in the owners hands. One they returned with a blown engine that Chris destroyed when he was doing donuts in a parking lot and drove it to the shop with no water. They said they freshend it up but all they did was paint it. They still will not make it right. The 442 guys were PISSED
Some of the cars were undriveable at time of "Reveal"
They return cars with pinched brake lines etc. after the "Inspection".
When asked they say" We are not a repair shop".
You can not change a thing on the car for 1 year and they have access to it with just a phonecall for that time too.
People think it takes a week to build a car now. When I tell them how long I need the car they always question it.
They get 15,000 requests a week.
BTW... They are looking for body workers for an upcoming cars. Must be good at rust repair. I have the email address here Someplace.
Fuelie Fan
08-05-2005, 06:31 AM
I like imports for what they are.. but you will spend a TON of $$ making a Honda as fast as a stock domestic car like a 2000 Camaro..
*ahem* you could very easily replace "honda" with "classic car", as i'm sure many on here could attest to. As long as they're going about it the "right" way and not with neon and vinyl, i can respect it.
ssdeuce
08-05-2005, 07:13 AM
I personally think that Pimp my Ride with x to the z xzibit is by far the best automotive show on television. The guys at WCC have a sense of humor about the cars that they are building and seem to really have fun with it. I also like that they put together some really unique stuff, pacer, minivan, brat, etc.
I like the show because everyone I have seen them do has been someone who deserves it.
Steve1968LS2
08-05-2005, 09:02 AM
*ahem* you could very easily replace "honda" with "classic car", as i'm sure many on here could attest to. As long as they're going about it the "right" way and not with neon and vinyl, i can respect it.
Well it is a matter of degree.. it is possible to MAKE money on a classic by fixing it up right.. on a Honda, or to be fair any new domestic car, you would be lucky to get 30% to 50% of a return on the aftermarket parts you have added..
Ask me how I know this.. lol
Little Bob
08-05-2005, 09:38 AM
I wonder if they will get Xzibit to help out and the guys from West Coast Customs.
:crying: :help!:
boodlefoof
08-05-2005, 09:39 AM
I like my twin-turbo Nissan 300ZX. :D But I am not putting stickers, bling, or a big ol' fart pipe on it!
Blitz
08-05-2005, 12:38 PM
Everybody just admit you love Hondas. Maybe not the posers, but the rest are car guys in a different power class. Like nobody ran around with Edelbrock, STP and Flowmaster stickers.
I only think it'll be weird that Foose is doing a Honda because it's not common for him...new domestics and older metal is. They already said they were going to expand their horizon awhile ago. I wouldn't mind seeing a flippin L'il Red Wagon if it was done right.
Foudie
08-05-2005, 12:46 PM
I think for me it is the attitude most of these little ba$tards have. That "hard look" that was mentioned earlier just cracks me up/pisses me off depending on the circumstances. Every time I see one of these little doofuses wearing their baggy pants and sideways hats I fast forward a couple years down the road when this kid shows up at my door asking to take one of my daughters out :help!: .
Blitz
08-05-2005, 01:13 PM
I guess you can relate the two. I relate stuff like that to part of my childhood in Atlanta (depending on what actual metro city), seemed like every guy in a Mustang or Truck thought he was the shizzz. Bald tire burnouts, big hoodscoops, exhaust pipes that stuck out 3ft from the bumper. Same story different day.
Steve,
Thanks! My winner package arrived today!:1st: Always good to look smart, rather than a smart aleck!:lmao:
Steve1968LS2
08-06-2005, 04:29 PM
Steve,
Thanks! My winner package arrived today!:1st: Always good to look smart, rather than a smart aleck!:lmao:
Wow, that was quick.. If I would have slacked off and mailed them Friday instead of Thursday you would have gotten the new "horton edition" October PHR..
Hope ya like the stuff and thanks for playing!!!!
Now don't tell me what I could have gotten! I haven't even found this month's issue! The convenient stores I go to seem to get them late. I need to start going to a book store, I guess.:dunno: Better yet, maybe a subscription?!?!:hmm: :doh:
Bill Howell
08-06-2005, 05:58 PM
Better yet, maybe a subscription?!?!:hmm: :doh:
Ya thunk :hmm:
:lmao: :lmao:
Steve1968LS2
08-06-2005, 10:46 PM
Now don't tell me what I could have gotten! I haven't even found this month's issue! The convenient stores I go to seem to get them late. I need to start going to a book store, I guess.:dunno: Better yet, maybe a subscription?!?!:hmm: :doh:
Hey man.. we practically give them away for the subscription price.. so pony up the .88 cents an issue.. lol
If you end up not finding September shoot me a PM and I will get you one..
FoxGranadaChuck
08-07-2005, 03:40 AM
The beginning re-runs of Happy Days are on TVland right now. Did you know Fonzie didn't always wear his leather jacket?
Yes, I did.
FoxGranadaChuck
08-07-2005, 03:51 AM
I remember watching the aforementioned episode of Happy Days in which Fonzie jumped over the shark. And this was definitely not one of the best shows. Happy Days never did have a well-developed plotline, but things got REALLY campy toward the end!
Yes, I do agree that Joanie Loves Chiachi really stunk also! Come to find out that the real-life romance between those two fizzled, resulting eventually in that show's demise.
wa-wa-wa!
Steve, thanks, I should be able to find it. QT just seems to get them late.
andrewb70
08-07-2005, 09:26 AM
What's Overhaulin'?
Andrew
Pro-touring towncar
08-07-2005, 04:19 PM
Well Overhaulin is a good idea but may have gone bad. I accually turned in my wifes crown vic for a make over. Only problem who wants to do a family size car for a poor guy anyway Plus I don't live close to a major performance shop. I don't have the prestige as the others that have been on the show. Oh yeah or famous like Lance or the guy from 90201. One think that irks me is in the rules state the car must run! OK what about the Roadrunner without a motor?????
Tim
Does anyone here even know what "jump the shark" is in reference to?
Although born in 1975, I know it has to do with the final seasons of Happy Days, writer, struggling for story lines, decided to have Fonzie jum the Sark on water skis?????
Some say this was the beginning of the end for the coolest cat on TV and the rest of the show.
Maverick Man
08-09-2005, 09:45 PM
A good example in import thinking are the huge exhaust systems (ie. fart cans).. they bolt these on because they are told they will gain xx horsepower.. and they probley do gain some on the very top end of their curve.
They don't realize that the complete lack of backpressure is more than likely killing thier bottom end and wiping out what little torqe they had to begin with.
I had a guy race me at Carlsbad.. he had an integra with a turbo and the car was stripped to the bone.. no interior.. floopy body panels and it was trailered to the track. We lined up and he beat me by about a tenth (I ran 13.1 I think). I was driving my mostly stock (at that time) 2000 SS Camaro.. after the race he strutted up me and was all proud that he beat me. I then reminded him that he couldn't even drive his car on the street and I could cruise mine to Vegas, with the AC on and get 27mpg..
And car can be fast if you poor enough money into it but that doesn't make it a smart decision..
easy now steve.. eyes are watching :rolleyes5 don't make me bring down our all factory, full interior with A/C, smog legal in cali SRT-4 and give your camaro a good spankin. ;)
MrQuick
08-09-2005, 09:57 PM
Did you all see the show or are you all sure its going down hill from here?? car came out kick ass...remember its were an owner get tricked and a car gets tricked out.
TonyL
08-09-2005, 10:44 PM
i thought the car came out nice. not too sure on the blue part of the stripes though. and Im not certain that it wouldnt have looked better all purple with a black stripe.
(which seemed to be what the insider wanted.)
Those are the wheels and tires Im trying to get my wife to put on her minivan. After seeing them, she liked them, so there was some good in the show.
62wagon
08-10-2005, 04:26 AM
I am not a big tuner fan but can appreciate good work. IMO, this would qualify as good work. I actually liked the car. As close to a hot rodded tuner as we will see.
The only question I have is do they keep body shops on the west coast that cold or was the insider just excited to see Foose?
Now back to doing some hot rods!!!:)
ProdigyCustoms
08-10-2005, 04:45 AM
The insider was a tubby little thing to be wearing those out fits. She wasn't dressing up for the TV was she?
I thought the car came out ok. Damn Courtney was obnoxious as hell though.
" Overhaulin is fixing to do their first tuner car, yeahhhhhhhH!"
Ugh!
The part that must have killed the producers was when they realized they did all this for someone that could not spot Foose standing straight in front of him with a shirt with his name on it! big fan he is!
Little Bob
08-10-2005, 05:02 AM
:wf: This entire thread has to do with Pro-touring how?
68protouring454
08-10-2005, 05:03 AM
lmao, yeah he was a real winner, chip standing there and all, then he says i met you and got your autograph, i hope they go back to muscle /vintage cars, i do not want to have ricers tuning i8n everyweek
jake
Foudie
08-10-2005, 05:39 AM
:wf: This entire thread has to do with Pro-touring how?
This is the open discussion forum right? :enguard:
I thought the funny thing was when they were talking about the head they put on the engine...."this racing head costs about $2500..." So how much money did this motor cost and what HP/TQ does it make? Maybe 200/180 tops? I still just dont get the popularity of these cars. At least Courtney is back though...She does need to talk a little less though.
Little Bob
08-10-2005, 05:47 AM
This is the open discussion forum right? :enguard:
I thought the funny thing was when they were talking about the head they put on the engine...."this racing head costs about $2500..." So how much money did this motor cost and what HP/TQ does it make? Maybe 200/180 tops? I still just dont get the popularity of these cars. At least Courtney is back though...She does need to talk a little less though.
If you read the thread rules, you will see this:
Open (Pro-Touring) Discussion (10 Viewing)
-A place for Pro-Touring related discussions. This forum is not to be used for technical threads. Note: Any off topic posts should be placed in “The Outhouse”. For information on what constitutes an off topic post, please see the forum rules. :poke:
Also the motor that was in that car was a 1.8 out of a Integra GSR. It come from the factory with a 170hp at 8200rpm. That motor had JE higher compresion pistons, a modified head and cams. Also had alot of other bolt on's. With the NX system, that motor was probally good for 300hp at the flywheel. :enguard:
mdprovee
08-10-2005, 06:47 AM
Yeah I watched it last nite... Liked the paint except the blue stripe. Boy the guy couldn't have went for the motor, and trunk any faster. I told my wife the same thing about the "cold" shop. She called me a perv.
Funny part was at the end when they are going for a ride, they guy never got to drive the ar. Foose was driving it, he was the passenger. I'd say LET ME DRIVE!
Mike
Foudie
08-10-2005, 09:36 AM
If you read the thread rules, you will see this:
Open (Pro-Touring) Discussion (10 Viewing)
-A place for Pro-Touring related discussions. This forum is not to be used for technical threads. Note: Any off topic posts should be placed in “The Outhouse”. For information on what constitutes an off topic post, please see the forum rules. :poke:
Also the motor that was in that car was a 1.8 out of a Integra GSR. It come from the factory with a 170hp at 8200rpm. That motor had JE higher compresion pistons, a modified head and cams. Also had alot of other bolt on's. With the NX system, that motor was probally good for 300hp at the flywheel. :enguard:
It's on now!!! :box2: 300hp at the flywheel with Nitrous maybe. I was talking about the MOTOR. And if the head was $2500 alone how much did each pony cost? That was my point. I was saying I just simply dont get all the hype. Calm down Little Bob :seizure: , now you are getting me all worked up too. At least we can all agree that the insider must have been smuggling grapes under her shirt. :bananna2:
Little Bob
08-10-2005, 09:52 AM
It's on now!!! :box2: 300hp at the flywheel with Nitrous maybe. I was talking about the MOTOR. And if the head was $2500 alone how much did each pony cost? That was my point. I was saying I just simply dont get all the hype. Calm down Little Bob :seizure: , now you are getting me all worked up too. At least we can all agree that the insider must have been smuggling grapes under her shirt. :bananna2:
I know what your saying and I didn't mean it to sound like I was getting worked up. I notice her eye's stood out. :eek:
Lets hope they go back to doing classics. :cheers:
Foudie
08-10-2005, 10:32 AM
LOL I know I was just playing with you. That is what I like about this site, we can all break balls in here and we all know it is all in good fun.
Blitz
08-10-2005, 10:37 AM
I saw the show. I was disappointed as a Honda/Acura fan, but as a Chevy/Daimler-Chrysler/Ferrari/Lamborghini/BMW/Aston Martin/Lexus...wait, just a CAR fan, I was happy to see that it turned out decent. The parts I didn't like: like mentioned above, the Blue stripe just didn't flow right. The body kit wasn't too bad but most body kits are poo to me anyway. The wheels looked a bit oversized, but you couldn't get a good look with all the changing angles and lighting anyway.
Now the things I did like: The engine bay was clean. They had a good mix of parts on the car that made sense, even though I wouldn't have put a Magnaflow exhaust on it. I could appreciate the effort that went into it regardless of the badge that sat on the hood.
Yeah, it made not have been a ground shaking 450HP/450TQ, but damn it's a 4cyl. with less than 2 liters.
jeff s
08-10-2005, 10:46 AM
I like a variety, I thought the Honda was well done, though not my cup of tea.
Foudie
08-10-2005, 12:58 PM
I will say that with the integrated Foose wing and Foose Speedstar wheels it looked as good as a Honda could. If it were a single color or maybe even a two tone I would not mind having it for a nice gas mileage car.
F70t/a
08-10-2005, 01:48 PM
The guy's girlfriend was not bad looking. Did anyone see when chip and her were standing by the paint booth? I guess she forgot to wear a bra :spank2:
MuscleRodz
08-10-2005, 04:58 PM
Yeah, it made not have been a ground shaking 450HP/450TQ, but damn it's a 4cyl. with less than 2 liters. [/color]
Don't let displacement fool you. GM has an Ecotec motor in a Colbalt drag car with 1400hp in a stock block and modified stock head that has gone 202mph.
Mike
jeff s
08-10-2005, 07:43 PM
And our daily driven 2.2L Ecotec 04 Cavalier has gone 13.2@111
Foudie
08-11-2005, 05:49 AM
There is no doubt that you can squeeze a lot of horsepower out of these little motors. I know guys running VTEC and Subaru motors in their sandrails, many of them pushing 500 turbocharged hp. but comparing the cost to make 500 hp out of a VTEC compared to a small block chevy......that is where I just dont understand all the hype. I guess as I get older I am just thinking more logically. If I worked part time and wanted a fast car I would go for more bang for my buck, but of course I have to take peer pressure into account. I am just glad I was in high school when I was!
Blitz
08-11-2005, 09:05 AM
I don't really think it's a question of logic but availability, praticality, popularity things of that nature to start out with. I mean if my child was old enough to need a car I wouldn't hand her the big HP, big TQ car right away, but something that took a little more "getting used to". I was there close to the beginning and now it's just been something that's been taken and ran with...nothing wrong with that. A matter of preference. The aftermarket has helped too. You wouldn't have been so enthusiastic with a New Honda 30 years ago.
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