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BADNBLK

07-25-2012, 02:29 PM

So been thinking that a more sinister look for the car was needed for a couple years. Dreams changing all the teal to a satin black, getting different black wheels, and darkening some of billet parts was the thought.

So I have a second set of turnsignals, and taillights to "smoke", then thinking of using the plasti-dip method on the lips of the wheels and billet emblems. I can't do the stripes or the accent teal to satin black this year, so...

Would this look good or just out of place on this car. Semi-murdered look by having the teal stripes and blacked out everything else? Should I just be happy, and quit messing with a good thing?

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LS1-IROC

07-25-2012, 03:53 PM

Id try the plastic dip on the rims for sure.

TheJDMan

07-25-2012, 04:55 PM

I think the all blacked out look is overdone.

SR71

07-25-2012, 05:20 PM

entirely black wheels are not "aggressive". they are subtle because at a distance they get burry with no detail. they just fade into the wheelwells. also, you can't tell where the wheel ends and the tire starts. this look was pioneered by those hard ass civic guys with black steelies and no hub caps. it's not a look that I would want to emulate.

BuddyP

07-25-2012, 05:40 PM

I'd keep the black wheel centers but ditch the polished lip for a brushed lip. Replacing the teal stripes with matte black strips would be ok. Charcoal/Gunmetal strips would be pretty cool. Then paint the ground effects solid gloss black (ditch the teal). The rear tail light black outs look good on the 3rd gens but I wouldn't do it over the headlights.

srh3trinity

07-25-2012, 06:10 PM

Maybe try plastidip to see if you like it. It comes in a flat black

FlyDoc

07-26-2012, 12:38 AM

the teal in the side vents needs to go! I would not do anything with the wheels, you need some sort of visual brake from wheel to tire.

ehummelman

07-26-2012, 06:27 AM

I would change get new rims and leave everything else alone. I don't think those rims really work with that car, just my opinion. I actually like the teal, as 80s as it is. :)

Mr.VENGEANCE

07-26-2012, 07:37 AM

62377

here a quick pshop i did..

i like it actually

BADNBLK

07-26-2012, 08:05 AM

62377

here a quick pshop i did..

i like it actually

I like it too! I think your chop settles it for me. The lips need to be black! THANK YOU!

I am not really a fan of the teal anymore and have been going back and forth on what to do with it for at least 5 years. My painter LOVES it, and seems to talk me out of changing it everytime I bring it up. I LOVED the wheels when I bought them 7 years ago, but they are not the perfect wheel for the car or the look and I agree. I wish I could get new wheels right now, but everytime I seem to think I have the extra money something comes up. I have extra turnsignals in the front, and 3 sets of brake lights to smoke in a deep gloss black like my side markers (can't see them :) ) , but plan on leaving the headlights alone.

How crazy would I be and does anyone have any first hand experience with Plasti-dip on the body?

john31s

07-26-2012, 08:25 AM

How crazy would I be and does anyone have any first hand experience with Plasti-dip on the body?

My brother recently Plasti-dipped all the badges and the wheels on his car. Rather than mask the badges he just masked a square around them, sprayed the Plasti-dip and peeled off the excess on the paint using the hard lines left by the masking tape leaving only the badges black. It came off the paint easy, and left no mark or residue. I can't see why you wouldn't be able to Plasti-dip your entire car, I would just wash and wax it first so when it comes time to peel it off (if you decide you want it off) their is no dirt or debresis under the plastic which could scratch the paint as you peel it off. Try looking at YouTube, their is deffinatly a video of it and the results.

clayton25

07-26-2012, 08:38 AM

I would drop the wing though and do something with the wheel whether its doing what the photoshop thing did or something else.

BADNBLK

07-26-2012, 08:56 AM

My brother recently Plasti-dipped all the badges and the wheels on his car. Rather than mask the badges he just masked a square around them, sprayed the Plasti-dip and peeled off the excess on the paint using the hard lines left by the masking tape leaving only the badges black. It came off the paint easy, and left no mark or residue. I can't see why you wouldn't be able to Plasti-dip your entire car, I would just wash and wax it first so when it comes time to peel it off (if you decide you want it off) their is no dirt or debresis under the plastic which could scratch the paint as you peel it off. Try looking at YouTube, their is deffinatly a video of it and the results.

I guess I don't have much to lose other than some time, and small amount of money for can of Plasti-dip...

Here is a video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNY9Dx617N8

BADNBLK

07-26-2012, 09:12 AM

I would drop the wing though and do something with the wheel whether its doing what the photoshop thing did or something else.

Wing is sexy... Best factory "wing" for 82-92 Camaros... Its staying.

clayton25

07-26-2012, 09:16 AM

Eh I’m more of a fan of the 3 piece rear spoiler with the rs ground effects kit or whatever you wanna call it. But to each his own, ultimately its your car and you decide what goes on it.

Brandon Miller

07-26-2012, 09:17 AM

What's the Plasti-Dip thing your are talking about?

sjaroslo

07-26-2012, 10:04 AM

What's the Plasti-Dip thing your are talking about?

https://www.pro-touring.com/showthread.php?91288-Plasti-dipped-my-Rushforth-wheels&highlight=plastidip

YMMV

BADNBLK

07-26-2012, 11:02 AM

What's the Plasti-Dip thing your are talking about?

This

http://www.plastidip.com/home_solutions/Plasti_Dip

Mr.VENGEANCE

07-26-2012, 01:01 PM

glad you like it, and i say get rid of the turquoise.. plastidip will work great for it, mask it off and show up pics.

BADNBLK

07-26-2012, 01:28 PM

glad you like it, and i say get rid of the turquoise.. plastidip will work great for it, mask it off and show up pics.

Yep I am already planning my Saturday around it!

So should I leave any exterior billet showing? Emblems? Center caps in the wheels?

Plasti Dip stripe, should I stick with the Heritage stripes, or do it a little different with a heritage themed single stripe?
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/HERITAGESTRIPESBRANDONSTYLE-1.jpg
Horrible photo mod.

streetnova74

07-26-2012, 09:34 PM

I think do the wheels and change the turquoise to flat black.

nekkidhillbilly

07-29-2012, 06:11 PM

i dont like the teal

BADNBLK

07-30-2012, 06:36 AM

Well I got with it on Saturday...

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/photobucket30431343589281204-1.jpg

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The stuff is harder to work with than paint. My original plan was for satin lips, with gloss black wheel centers, but attempting to remove the center masking for a fineline edge without touching proved to be a tougher task than I could complete. I was able to spray the passenger side "vents", and started to spray the stripe on the rear wing, but found it was too warm and could not get even finish with out peeling it off when removing the mask. I knew I would love the contrast of the matte and high gloss black together. I will post more pics and I take them.

Mr.VENGEANCE

07-30-2012, 08:07 AM

WHOOOOAAAAHHHH!!!

take pics in the light!

BADNBLK

07-30-2012, 08:14 AM

WHOOOOAAAAHHHH!!!

take pics in the light!

I'm doing a couple other things, and didn't have it finished to try and take decent pics. Guess we will call these teaser pics :)

CruizinKev

07-30-2012, 07:51 PM

SWEET!!! good job! :yeah:

BADNBLK

07-31-2012, 09:35 AM

SWEET!!! good job! :yeah:

Thanks! Didn't get to play with it last night, but should have some time tonight :)

MonzaRacer

08-02-2012, 04:29 PM

Plasti-dip the wheels, your right they do look better Mr. V. As for the Teal,,, I like it. Too many cars are shying away from using color palettes OVER used in the 80s and 90s dont work. The car WORKS. Dont remove it. Heck try Plasti Dip on teal parts a month at a time, then pull it off and see what happens when you change it back. If they have smoke that works on lights then maybe fade over some of teal even.
Your car, drive it. But black wheels do look better, or maybe a smoked rim lip even.

JAG.

08-03-2012, 05:20 AM

Looks a helluva lot better already with the all black wheels. Hard to see the satin black tho from those pics but i thnk you're on the right track. Subtle touches is the way to go. Too much of anything gets offensive pretty quick. Like too much chrome.. yuck.

Have you considered any body mods?? http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5137/5484587500_4ee017f6c4.jpg

- JAG

srh3trinity

08-03-2012, 07:38 AM

I am digging the wheels. I will echo the above, we need more shots. Your car makes me miss my third gen Camaro

BADNBLK

08-03-2012, 07:51 AM

Hey thanks guys! I really want to get it out of the garage and wash it off and take some decent pics. I have had this with the paint as it is for over 12 years, so this is a big change.

Took a couple pics of the single stripe I started out doing on the rear spoiler and decklid.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/08/photobucket36541344005610707-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/08/photobucket5961344005609543-1.jpg

Hoping to get some time with it tomorrow morning to finish the stripes and rinse it off :)

Got one other think I think some of you might think is neat...

stage2ROUSH

08-03-2012, 05:26 PM

looks way better, and the charcoal/gray stripes are hottttt.

BADNBLK

08-06-2012, 10:17 AM

Well I got pissed with trying over and over to leave perfect edge while striping, so said "F" it and peeled all the plasti-dip off the sides and stripes...

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/08/photobucket12291344271956250-1.jpg

Here is the only outside shot I had time to snap... Crappy lighting/shadows... I know! More pics!

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/08/photobucket17671344271959753-1.jpg

BADNBLK

08-06-2012, 02:58 PM

You probably couldn't tell from the one pic, but I also added this...

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https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/08/photobucket18391344271955026-1.jpg

3M Scotchprint 1080 Hi gloss... which isn't that high gloss, but still a little something different to tie in the REAL carbon grill.

FULMNTE

08-06-2012, 03:07 PM

Can't have enough satin black.... :)

BADNBLK

08-06-2012, 03:12 PM

Can't have enough satin black.... :)

LOL I really wish I could get the plasti-dip to work out and see how mean it looks with the teal covered up.

LS1-IROC

08-07-2012, 08:26 AM

jpgolf14

08-07-2012, 09:38 AM

Nice! I have been wanting to do that ever since I started playing with Di-noc. I did my hood louvers and front grill with it and it looks awesome.

Pictures of louvers???

BADNBLK

08-20-2012, 07:10 AM

So I finally took some pics of it outside with a little better lighting for my cell phone to capture...
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/08/photobucket13121345212404025-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/08/photobucket284671345212401703-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/08/photobucket191951345212392981-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/08/photobucket11751345212394203-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/08/photobucket14131345212398961-1.jpg

I think the look is cheap, and need to spray over the teal completely to really capture the look. I need to buck up and do it right with paint.

GrabberGT

08-21-2012, 11:47 AM

I kind of like the accents in the ground effects. the hood stripes not so much.

srh3trinity

08-21-2012, 04:47 PM

Do the stripes and ground effects with the CF vinyl. The wheels look totally different in a good way.

JTH-91rs

08-21-2012, 11:58 PM

There's a video on you tube of a guy doing stripes on a truck with plasti-dip. He basically just did very quick coats with very little time between them, then peeled the tape up while it was wet so he didn't peel the plasti dip.

Side note what rear end are you running on that third gen?? I've seen conversion kits and heard of people putting newer model rear ends in. Really want the performance factor over the drums.

JAG.

08-22-2012, 09:37 AM

it is looking better, that wheel/tire combo is freakin' perfect! fills out the wheel wells nicely but isnt too flashy or too muted. Well done man.

As for the stripes, maybe try another strip design or size.. or a new graphic all together? The corvette 'grand sport stripes' are a big thing right now and i think they look pretty good if done right. Definitely some bad examples out there tho so be careful.. see below:

Good:
http://cdn3.iofferphoto.com/img/item/178/630/939/2-color-corvette-grand-sport-fender-stripe-stripes-97cce.jpg

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/04/grandsport1-1280_opt.jpg

http://image.gmhightechperformance.com/f/gm-news/tom-henry-2010-camaro/18417192/tom-henry-camaro.jpg

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=140167&stc=1&d=1277649439

Bad:
http://media.photobucket.com/image/recent/lilchubby11/0311091639.jpg

http://media.photobucket.com/image/recent/BigRedGoat/GS2.jpg

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/58/afterthoughtsauto194230du1.jpg/sr=1

https://id3452.securedata.net/superbgraphics.net/merchantmanager/images/uploads/Corvette_3_inch_2_inch_Grand_sport_2.jpg

http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/35059393/aview/_Br6_wKQB2k___KGrHqEH_D0EvDpTHTUJBL1wudb_sQ___1.JP G

Just a thought man..

JAG.

08-22-2012, 09:45 AM

BADNBLK

08-22-2012, 01:25 PM

Do the stripes and ground effects with the CF vinyl. The wheels look totally different in a good way.
I love the look of carbon fiber, but I think that might not flow well. If I had a carbon hood I would paint it and leave exposed stripes of some sort. I think using an exposed REAL CF on gfx in the same theme as the teal is now would be amazing... Just don't know how to do it :dunno:

There's a video on you tube of a guy doing stripes on a truck with plasti-dip. He basically just did very quick coats with very little time between them, then peeled the tape up while it was wet so he didn't peel the plasti dip.

Side note what rear end are you running on that third gen?? I've seen conversion kits and heard of people putting newer model rear ends in. Really want the performance factor over the drums.

I watched that video when attempting the plastic dip stripes. I honestly think I was rushing causing my errors with tape removal. Nobody ever painted a car perfectly on the their first try, so I imagine I just need more practice with figuring the amount of coats and time to remove the fineline tape with a crisp edge.

The rear end is the factory 7.5 10 bolt. I have 3.73 yukon gears, rebuilt posi, and stud girdle cover... my tpi doesn't make enough power at this point to justify a moser or strange rear end.

it is looking better, that wheel/tire combo is freakin' perfect! fills out the wheel wells nicely but isnt too flashy or too muted. Well done man.

As for the stripes, maybe try another strip design or size.. or a new graphic all together? The corvette 'grand sport stripes' are a big thing right now and i think they look pretty good if done right. Definitely some bad examples out there tho so be careful.. see below:

Thank you I though long and hard when buying them, but alas I want new ones...

The heritage stripes that are on it now imo are the best looking stripes a 3rd gen can have, but I was going to make it a single stripe with the lines following the heritage theme to try something different. I contemplated adding a 1/8 red pinstripe to the outside to break up the black.

Right now I don't like the wheels black, while the teal on the paint it still exposed. I gotta either get better spraying the plasti-dip or buck up and pay my painter to lay it down in paint. It looks cheap to me with nothing else to really tie the satin black wheels to the rest of the theme. Its gonna get peeled off until I can get the whole thing put together as a package.

BADNBLK

08-27-2012, 10:21 AM

Well I peeled it off... Really easy to do btw.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/08/photobucket14461346090489045-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/08/photobucket14601346090496399-1.jpg

JAG.

08-27-2012, 06:12 PM

hey man, you like what you like and it looks good as is anyway so no worries ;) i agree tho that the matte black wheels need to tie into the rest of the car. just keep at it

TonyHuntimer

09-01-2012, 08:17 AM

The black wheel lips are a great look. I'm also a big fan of the tall spoiler. You've got a nice looking car.

Tony Huntimer

srh3trinity

09-01-2012, 08:33 AM

This thread makes me miss my third gen Camaros. I will own one again.

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09-02-2012, 01:23 AM

Shoulda got a Black 3rd Gen Trans-Am.

BADNBLK

09-05-2012, 10:16 AM

The black wheel lips are a great look. I'm also a big fan of the tall spoiler. You've got a nice looking car.

Tony Huntimer

Thanks! I think the black will come back when I can finish out the look with the stripes and all. Thanks again.

This thread makes me miss my third gen Camaros. I will own one again.

There is a really sweet one in the for sale section right now... Price keeps getting lower. Its a deal for what has been done to it!

Shoulda got a Black 3rd Gen Trans-Am.

Nah... Love the T/a's but got a sweet spot for Camaros :)

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09-08-2012, 01:26 AM

Nah... Love the T/a's but got a sweet spot for Camaros :)

I like them to, I just wish the rear tailights were a little better thought of like the TA. Hope you enjoy the car though, stands out from the croud thats for sure :)

BADNBLK

09-10-2012, 10:19 AM

I like them to, I just wish the rear tailights were a little better thought of like the TA. Hope you enjoy the car though, stands out from the croud thats for sure :)

Thanks!