Project: Ballin' on a budget

[Z06killinSBF]

I've never made a "project" thread really and stuck with it so here it goes. The plan is to start in the back and work forward upgrading and restoring at the same time.

My friends, family and neighbors all think I'm crazy for cutting up such a "nice" car. Well, it looks good from the top but underneath everything hides a horribly repaired monster.

My dad and I put new sheet metal and paint on it about 12 years ago and I threw some nice wheels on it and got it setting there, but I've never been 100% satisfied.

First up: Mini tubs, 315's 8.8 Explorer swap and trunk restoration.

Before:
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Started scraping off coatings and uncovering hell. I had a roll bar in the car at one time.
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275's in the stock wheel wells..... not big enough!
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Out with the old
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[Z06killinSBF]

Lets do some cutting!
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These fit too easy
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How about something with some girth
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Too bad it hits even after installing the mini tubs
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Notching the frame
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It still doesn't fit perfect so time now to back half the frame and that's where I'm at now.

Oh and some of the "repairs" I'm pulling off
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[67cougnut]

are you using the aje kit to get the 8.8 in there?

http://forums.vintage-mustang.com/mod-custom-forum/639202-aje-rear-subrame-kit-other-rear-suspension-parts.html

[Z06killinSBF]

are you using the aje kit to get the 8.8 in there?
No that's out of the budget. I had fairly new 4-1/2 leaf reverse eye leafs on it with the Global West Del-A-Lum bushing in them, I'll reuse those.

[Z06killinSBF]

Funny comparison, new 315's next to the old 235's

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[MattWash08]

good luck on back-halfing it! so it doesnt have the roll bar in it anymore?

[Z06killinSBF]

good luck on back-halfing it! so it doesnt have the roll bar in it anymore?

No, I plan to make it so that I can put the family in it safely and cruise it in style. The roll bar was IN THE WAY big time.

[LowFast]

Ahh, the fun of cutting out the wheel wells, sparks burning your head, so much fun!

[sr73bu]

Looks Great! Very nice update to the car!

Just a tip: I'm about to run 315's on the rear of my chevelle, I've had a few mock up tires to reference and found that the size difference, between brands, for 315's are very inconsistant... If you need a "smaller" 315, look at Nitto 555's or Nitto in general, they run narrower than most tires, but will still fill up the wheel wells...

good luck with the rest of the build...

-Sean

[Z06killinSBF]

Oh I'm all to familiar with the size variances. On my dads Camaro the wheels came with Dunlops, fit great. He put Pirellies on it and they rubbed all the time. I'm not sure how these compare but if they are on the wide side that plays in my benifit as that's what I'm making room for.

[705.0Merc]

That will look good. How are you going to relocate the leaf springs?

[E-Vukets]

Damn that car is so clean on the topside, I think I may have to steal your grille design! Are you planning on running the terminator rims or just mocking them up?

[CruizinKev]

wow looks cool so far! :twothumbs

[Z06killinSBF]

The Terms are just mock up and really not needed. The grill is just the stock 66 grill painted black, nothing fancy.

I will be using 2nd Camaro spring pockets with a notched frame and standard hangers out back.

[67cougnut]

to the OP, im not sure how well equipped you are for doing FAB work but dse does offer modified frame rail sections to help you get a wider tire out back:
https://www.pro-touring.com/showthread.php?88377-Photos-Teasers-of-DSE-s-new-Mustang-Cougar-suspension

[Z06killinSBF]

I spent Friday night on my back with a scraper in hand taking off undercoating. Today the back section took a bath of Goo Gone and Mineral spirits to get to here. It was really slimy and gooey under here. I have since sprayed it with some rust converter.

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I struck gold!!

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[sellersrodshop]

to be correct, i think thats actually "fools gold". lol! i feel for you brother, i'm starting the "bottom scraping" tomorrow on mine. already did the engine compatment/aprons up front, but decided to go ahead & pull the rear & do the underneath before i run the new brake/fuel lines.

[streetrods]

Hmm..this looks familiar!... I was able to get 315 30 18s tucked with a mini tub..trimmed frame rails..springs relocated and 1/4s trimmed.... I'm building a 68 fastback now...its getting 20x10s in back.. : )

[Z06killinSBF]

I'm going to make 2x3 frame rails right after the "s" bend in the rear frame.

I was thinking about making full length subframe connectors out of some 2x3. Would this be overkill and add weight? I've had one guy try telling me to just weld tabs from my existing connectors to the floor. That just doesn't seem as effective.

[LowFast]

The 2x3 will be overkill and add weight, that is why for mine I sized them down to a thick walled 1x2. Youhave to remember that you will still have all of the body structure (although it is not hugely rigid) along with the floor pans adding strength. Unless you plan to run 800+ hp the current subframe connectors weled to the floors and to the front and rear rails should be sufficient.

[T_Raven]

Car looks nice. Are you using the wheels in the second post or are they just for mock up?

[85coupe50]

You have a good start to a good project. I will be watching this one as I have to do the same rear tub to my 64 fairlane to get some good rubber under it.

[Z06killinSBF]

Thanks guys. Those wheels are throw away wheels as they are all busted up. The only reason I have them was to test fit because they have REALLY wide 275's on them. I'll probably just get some deep dish 17x10.5 Bullitts to match the fronts.

I'm not sure if the chrome is what I really want anymore so I may entertain ideas on paint schemes for them

[GrabberGT]

Heres a set of Forgelines that might work for you. Killer price!

_http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/pts/3015337121.html

[Hollywoodknight69]

Killer Mustang project.....keep up the great work!! We are representing Mustangs very well in the pro-touring world!!

[Z06killinSBF]

One new frame rail in work.

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[kmcanally]

I am watching closely...looks good.

[Z06killinSBF]

Rail end boxed

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The amount of inward spacing I gained

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Pass side rail fitting

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[Z06killinSBF]

Ok, leaf spring sliders. Yay or nay. I'm at the point to start measuring for putting the leaf springs back in.

[LowFast]

4-Link it!

[Z06killinSBF]

Throw me some of your budget!! I would if I could but that costs way too much. Maybe one day

[dusterbd13]

only ptoblem with sliders on a sreet car is the jam up so quick with corrosion and road debris. that and getting the front end of the spring, as well as the spring wedge right for geometry purposes. we had some guys in the pts10 world messing with them, and they never seemed tolive up to the idea/
your experience may be different, though.

michael

[LowFast]

Throw me some of your budget!! I would if I could but that costs way too much. Maybe one day

My budget is too small to throw some your way. If you did a weld on kit it would only run you about $500, not talking about one of the g-link type kits. just a simple 3 or 4 ling with a panhard bar and some budget coilovers. But I hear you, $300 here and $500 there realy ads up over time. I finished up my subframe/frame connectors and bracing this weekend, turned out great and now I am ready to drop in the engine next weekend. Your are making great progress, much faster than I did.:cheers:

[Z06killinSBF]

Duster- just what I wanted to hear. Turns out that some spare roll bar tubbing I have is withing .015 of the original frame sleeve for the shackle bushings.

Low- cool man. I don't like to waste time, I only get a few hours a day to work on it. I got both rails welded up and my previously narrowed rail, widdened back out. Now I get to make all my filler plates... Yay....

[Z06killinSBF]

I had to add material back to the portion of frame I narrowed

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Installed

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[Hollywoodknight69]

Ok, leaf spring sliders. Yay or nay. I'm at the point to start measuring for putting the leaf springs back in.

I say Yay! I am using leaf spring sliders on my project and its turing out great!

[Z06killinSBF]

I picked up a nice "new to me" Miller 150 gas rig and wow what a better machine than what I was using.

Shackles fit now.

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[Z06killinSBF]

Before:

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After:

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I made it out of 16ga sheet and doubled up around to spring eye. Feels much beefier than the stock portion.

These shall hold up

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[67cougnut]

your welds are looking great!

[68firebird]

yea they do look great, I wish I knew how to weld!! :-(

[Z06killinSBF]

Thanks! The project is creeping along. I got my 8.8 home and started tearing it down for narrowing. I haven't touched the car itself in a few weeks. Funding and time are very tight.

[Z06killinSBF]

Ok, summer classes are done and it isn't 1 million degrees outside so some progress!!

DS seat riser has been put back in (no finish pic though....) This sound deadener is a PITA to clean up after! It took most of the morning.

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Tacked one of the inner wheel tubs in to make sure the new frame rails clear the tires now. Tons of room!!

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Tiny 2 car garage FTW

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[LowFast]

Looking good! I am jealous of your progress and that you will have yours back on the road way before I can get mine up and running. What wheels do you plan to go with, or are you going to widen the ones you already have?

[Z06killinSBF]

I'll be getting (2) 17x10.5 Bullitt deep dishes (typical late model mustang wheel). My car was running and driving before I cut it up, so I'd hope it would go back together sooner.

[Z06killinSBF]

Yes, Ford Edge wheels will fit under an early mustang with a full length explorer 8.8, in case anyone was interested. I needed some motivation after spending 8 hours of welding and slid the rear under it and slapped a wheel on I have laying around. Wheel tubs are welded in, trunk hinge braces tacked and the roof brackets for the C pillar finally welded to the wheel tubs after 30 years of not being.

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Roof braces, never welded on after someone replaced the quarter panel, I'll get it.
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Wheel tub also left unwelded
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My helper
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[Z06killinSBF]

I came into an unexpected purchase. Duck tail deck lid and end caps. Obviously used but I got a killer deal on them. Now I get to make it all fit, great fun.

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[LowFast]

Cool, that will add some agression to the back end.

[Z06killinSBF]

More work and lots of progress. My floor boards are almost done, I put in a rear cross brace, and started welding in trunk pans.

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Just because!!
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[stillridin]

You said to check out your build and that I did. You where right. We did the exact same thing. I used 3x3 thin wall tubing for the front pocket, just cut the bottom out and put a plate on the out sides for mor strength. I had bought 5 leaf revere eye and Del-A-Lum bushings for it. Still debating if its going to feel way to rough specially with the aluminum bushings. How did yours ride? I also have an 8.8 and a 9" rear still not sure which one would be cheaper to shorten and use. I haven't researched that to much yet. Tires, I was going with was 315's but found out 305's where only 1/2 inch more narrow and a lot cheaper for tires. 18x8 fronts 19x10s rear. I love the rear valance welded seam and quarter to rocker welded seam. Big fan of the smooth look. I've got to get my pics together and post up my build. I'm a bad procrastinator. I'm following yours great work.

[icemanrd19]

hey im in allen if you ever want to meet up hit me up with a PM. Im heading to goodguys next week too.

If you need anything tire related let me know. Im a store manager for NTB

[Z06killinSBF]

Cool guys sounds good! A beer always sounds good! My car rode just fine with the aluminum bushings and cheapy KYBs. I never thought it had an overly harsh ride.

[coolwelder62]

Very Cool project.I really like keeping things on a budget.

[cobraguy65]

Nice work!

[GrabberGT]

Nice work. What rear seat is that you are using. It does not look like its from that era.

[MAYHEM Customs]

Cool car! We love Mustangs!

[Z06killinSBF]

Thanks everyone, I'm running a seat from an 04' GT but I don't think I'm going to keep it. It worked with the modern racing seats but with te stock seats I think it will look out of place. I'm thinking of putting a roll bar BACK in it and putting a shelf/rear seat delete BACK in it as well.

[GrabberGT]

Thanks everyone, I'm running a seat from an 04' GT but I don't think I'm going to keep it. It worked with the modern racing seats but with te stock seats I think it will look out of place. I'm thinking of putting a roll bar BACK in it and putting a shelf/rear seat delete BACK in it as well.

It looks like it would go pretty well with my front seats. If you are thinking of getting rid of it, we should talk. Coming to GG this weekend?

Heres my front seat with my AutoX hostage... er I mean offering.

65697

[Z06killinSBF]

This came by to distract me
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I need to straighten my frame extension. Years of being a jack point has taken its toll on the frame.
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[GrabberGT]

Thanks again for letting come by to try out that rear seat. Too bad it didnt fit. My apologies again for the power steering leak in your driveway. :eek:

[Z06killinSBF]

Made some mini "torque boxes". I felt this area could use some type of strengthening. Probably doesn't do much if anything but it makes me feel better.

Some of the welds look crapy because the stock metal doesn't like to be welded and I was also on my back dancing. Oh well, a grinder will clean it up.

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[Trans]

wow all that work only to be ridiculed by chevy vehicles

[Z06killinSBF]

Why do you say that?

[LowFast]

Trans seems to be a troll, every post update that I have this morning has him making a negative comment of some sort. Looks good, I feel your pain on the welding to the stock material. It either looks "globby" or if you have it too hot it burns right through, only every so often I hit that perfect welder setting and speed and they turn out looking nice.

[GrabberGT]

Looks good. Its the little things that make a difference.

[Z06killinSBF]

Trans seems to be a troll, every post update that I have this morning has him making a negative comment of some sort. Looks good, I feel your pain on the welding to the stock material. It either looks "globby" or if you have it too hot it burns right through, only every so often I hit that perfect welder setting and speed and they turn out looking nice.

Well, it's good to know I'm not alone and I at least have something to blame for my poor fab skills. Just seeing some of the cars on here, including yours, makes me try harder and harder to get better. Probably the last weld I lay down to complete the car will be my best.

[pinky49]

just keep after it. make everything as clean as possible before you weld and keep the heat on the better metal and let the puddle reach the stock metal, has wored for me fairly well. practice over and over. looking good! ed

[MattWash08]

Glad to see youre still making progress! That Maverick is gorgeous btw, Ive never seen one on fr500's.

[gofastwclass]

Well, it's good to know I'm not alone and I at least have something to blame for my poor fab skills. Just seeing some of the cars on here, including yours, makes me try harder and harder to get better. Probably the last weld I lay down to complete the car will be my best.

Welding on your back is a pain in so many ways...

Just like losing something - it's always in the last place you looked. At least it will make you better for the next time. :)

[Jetfixr320]

Pretty nice welds considering you were on your back. Thats a PIA to do. Only thing I can see is your parent material may not have been cleaned enough.
Keep up the good work. Love your car and the color.

Steve

[Z06killinSBF]

Pretty nice welds considering you were on your back. Thats a PIA to do. Only thing I can see is your parent material may not have been cleaned enough.
Keep up the good work. Love your car and the color.

Steve
I completely agree on the parent material. I had it cleaned down to bare metal and I wiped it all with cleaner but I believe the metal is saturated with some type of grease. Thanks for the compliments.

[Z06killinSBF]

Subframe connector modification:

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And here is where I ran out of gas.
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[dusterbd13]

welding teacher once suggested to me to use a torch to pre-clean the metal after griding. according to him, it "boils" saturated materials out.

[Z06killinSBF]

Hmmm... maybe if I didn't have all that sound deadener in the car I would. Boy that would make a nasty mess. I'll just stick to inching my way along, 60% of the time it works every time.

Oh and I ground the paint off that subframe connector although it doesn't look like it. I ain't that stoopid.

[GrabberGT]

Cool idea. that ought to help. stiffen it up.

[Z06killinSBF]

I've been busy scrubbing and cleaning the underside of this thing, it's sooooooo grungy. Oil leaks, trans leaks mixed with daily abuse made it nasty. Paint stripper makes an EXCELLENT degreaser BTW. Both subframe connectors are in and fully welded. Driverside wheel tub filler is in, just needs a little grinder clean up. Passenger side should be done quickly. I still need to work on fabing up sheet metal for the trunk and find/fit a fuel cell. I've lost some real estate with these frame rails.

Crappy cell pics, like all the others

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Ride height with a 17x9 275 combo. It eats this wheel up easy.
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Compared to the 315, I'm so ready to order wheels!
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Wheels I'll be running
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[MattWash08]

are you going to try to get away with stuffing 17x9 fr's up front or are you going to get them narrowed?

[Z06killinSBF]

I'm not real sure, my wife want's me to stick with the chrome Bullits because it's cheaper and the fronts are already 8s. I may just go that route for now.

Also, I'm thinking of spraying the car satin black. I've added the deck lid and I'll be shaving the drip rails. After I fix some dings and paint cracks it will need a respray and I'm not sure if I should stick with the grabber blue or not. The satin black is the next choice if I don't stay this color. Opinions?

[dusterbd13]

leave it grabber blue. it looks good that color, and as you said. satin black is your SECOND choice.

[LowFast]

Grabber blue, end of debate! Yours is the only coupe I have seen in the GB thus making it unique and it looks great as is. If you go black yours will be the same as the sea of other satin black cars out there. On the wheels, I would consider getting the chrome blasted and go with a silver or maybe even a darker color powder coat/paint. I am not a fan of chrome, but that is just me. If you can sell off the bullits I say go with the new rims, much like satin black paint, bullits on a mustang are sort of bellybutton.

Ps. Let me dig up some pics and I will answer your PM.

[jlcustomz]

As a possible suggestion, you could add some black accents to the grabber blue, which could make it look meaner & sharper. No such thing as making everyone happy, but that could make you & those whose opinions actually count happy.

Speaking of opinions that count, HA HA, I see the previously mentioned trans was banned a few weeks ago.

[Z06killinSBF]

I'm going to black out the trim and body color the rear bumper after I shave the bolts. I'm going to do what makes me happy but I didn't want to go full retard, you never go full retard.

[jlcustomz]

I think that would look cool. i do like your shade of blue, a little blackout & monochromatic smoothed bumper should be perfect.I say that as a gm guy whose not on here to insult fords:wasntme:The blue does set your stang apart from the crowd.

[Jetfixr320]

I didn't grind my welds on the mini-tubs, once I sprayed lizard skin all the weld beads disappeared..

I'm running the FR500's on my 65 Falcon. Looks alot better then the Bullits. I get many more positive comments even with the crappy old paint.

I vote Grabber Blue. I'm wondering how a Falcon would look with it?

[Z06killinSBF]

I say go for it, beware people call it 'baby blue' 'sky blue' etc.

I get that GM comment more than you'd think, so I guess I'm doing something right! I appreciate it btw.

[LowFast]

Have you considered maybe a grey or graphite for the trim instead of black. The grey tone is more complimentary to the blue than the harshness of black. Just a thought.

[Z06killinSBF]

You know I have, I'd do a graphite like what Porsche uses on their trim. Black is just easier to make people comprehend. But, the black tail light panel sure looks good IMO.

[LowFast]

But a graphite tail panel would look more gooder.

[72BBSwinger]

Graphite trim and tail panel with graphite centers in the wheels.

[GrabberGT]

I like the Grabber Blue. Graphite accents would look great. But until you are ready for repaint, you could do a satin black plasti-dip on the entire car. It would look pretty cool if you masked off some stripes in the grabber blue. So, game plan should be Satin black with grabber blue stripes until complete grabber blue with graphite respray is feasible.

[Z06killinSBF]

Bolt on tear drop hood scoop, made obviously bolted on with polished stainless allen head bolts? Do a flat black stripe on the hood. Dumb?

[LowFast]

Do you need it for clearance or just want it for the look? If for the look I would say go with a shelby hood/scoop over the tear drop.

[Z06killinSBF]

Not a fan of the Shelby, it's over used IMO.

Look and clearance, plus my hood has a pimple from when I closed it with the wing nut all the way down (ouch!)

[LowFast]

I bet it is pricey but doesn't year one make a hood with the scoop integrated. I think it would look better than a bolt-on set-up. Or see if you can find a steel stamping of the scoop and weld it in.

[Z06killinSBF]

$700 for the CF version, $450 for fiberglass, $50-150 for bolt on fg scoop. I thought of making my own after seeing your hood.

[LowFast]

I thought of making my own after seeing your hood.

Now your talking! Get out the saw and start cutting!

I wish you had seen mine in person (I have yet to locate other PT guys up here in Wisconsin) , someone to validate that it looks 50 times better up close than it does in the pictures. For some reason my camera shots never look as good as most of the others on here, or maybe my work is just not as good. :hammer: Might also be that having them hosted on ImageShack hurts the image quality, where do you host your pics?

[67cougnut]

stay grabber blue! one thing I've learned is nice clean paint, one color never goes out of style. the matte black thing will eventually be played out. Trust me I know.LOL!

[Z06killinSBF]

Now your talking! Get out the saw and start cutting!

I wish you had seen mine in person (I have yet to locate other PT guys up here in Wisconsin) , someone to validate that it looks 50 times better up close than it does in the pictures. For some reason my camera shots never look as good as most of the others on here, or maybe my work is just not as good. :hammer: Might also be that having them hosted on ImageShack hurts the image quality, where do you host your pics?

I use photobucket, but after I post pics I feel like its a horrible representation of what is really there.

[GrabberGT]

Not really a fan of the teardrop look. How bout a cowl?

I use Picasa for photos. Much easier to use.

[droptop73]

I saw awhile back someone grafted a Maverick grabber center into an early Mustang hood... it looked pretty cool to me.

[72BBSwinger]

I dig the AFX type teardrop. I also like a GT500 style dual opening. 67 and 68 both.

[Z06killinSBF]

Well, looks like paint will come sooner than later. I was uncovering many more rusty spots and poorly repaired panels and while tacking my wheel well lip to the wheel well, something cought fire and boiled a blob of paint on my wheel opening. I now have a nice 1"x1" spot on the side on my car that's straight through to the primer, Fml!

[67cougnut]

hey, that mustang GT back seat you have, Did that just go right in with little to no mods? Ive been seeing a lot folks using the newer GTO back seat's.

[Z06killinSBF]

I trimmed the top portion of the metal frame which mounts to the car (it is a fold down seat if anyone didn't know). I think I may have trimmed a few other pieces but that it all. I never got the bottom portion fully mounted so it sort of floated around. I'll be pulling it out and selling it. The back portion is a bit narrower than factory so some sort of filler panel will need to be fabed up.

[stillridin]

Wow you've done quite a bit of work since I've last been on here. Everything looks awesome. Good to know about how narrow the back is. That should fit mine perfectly than. I mini tubed a little more than the norm. Great job!

[Z06killinSBF]

Wow you've done quite a bit of work since I've last been on here. Everything looks awesome. Good to know about how narrow the back is. That should fit mine perfectly than. I mini tubed a little more than the norm. Great job!

Thanks, I feel like I am getting no where. I'm suffering from the "while I'm at it"s and it is dragging things on and uncovering things.

[stillridin]

Thanks, I feel like I am getting no where. I'm suffering from the "while I'm at it"s and it is dragging things on and uncovering things.

Yea but it'll pay off in the end. Did you end up making a decision on paint?

[Z06killinSBF]

I believe I'll stay with this blue, it has always got a ton o attention and the women love it. Plus, google "grabber blue 66 mustang" and my car is in the first 2 results. So that's kinda cool, I'll add some black trim though.

[Z06killinSBF]

I've been knocking around different ideas for a rear spoiler for the car. I hated the end caps that came with the deck lid so I put the stock ones back on, now the spoiler is not attractive so I taped I different styles of cuts. The blue portion is what would be left over. It's still up in the air for a final cut but Lowfast is helping me out a bit. Ideas?

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/12/57B6C9690D984FC396893C60CD770AEC22760000-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/12/4DD42A81A37E414F8AAAB58E2CFADC9D22760000-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/12/E39EB4640D294761901E1598FB9C139622760000-1.jpg

Different tapers
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/12/1E068D42D8B049C29030086A057B58BA22760000-1.jpg


Btw, it's amazing how close in color painters tape is to my car.

[kmdracer]

Nooo, lol. I'd put the end caps back on. Always liked that look on a coupe.
Your car, your decision though.

[stillridin]

Your like an allusionist lol!

[LowFast]

Looking back at the pics I am thinking you either keep the end caps to match up with the spoiler or delete the decklid spoiler all together. I think it is going to be very difficult to transition without the end caps. The other option would be to go with a fabricated "race" type spoiler and paint it the graphite/black to plan for the rest of the trim on the car, I think that would look nice and agressive., this would be the way I would go.

I will do a few sketches over the pics you sent last night if I get a break in work today and shoot over any ideas I might have.

[GrabberGT]

Not seeing it. I know what you could do but... I can see it in my mind what you should do but cannot find a picture or remember the project that did it. I'll look around but basically, its a small decklid spoiler. Its not likely to be very functional but may give a subtle style change for you.

[Z06killinSBF]

I have the thing for sale if that means much. I may do the race type aluminum spoiler on the stock lid.

[LowFast]

I may do the race type aluminum spoiler on the stock lid.
^ This, powedercoated/painted to match the rest of the trim on the car.

[E-Vukets]

If I had your fab skills I would cut it in the middle for a look similiar to this:

68556

But the metal spoiler in black would look good with the big tires

68555

[Z06killinSBF]

Thanks for the kind words but my fab skills are rough as a cob. I think it's a combo of cell phone camera, crappy lighting and helpful members!!

[LowFast]

If I had your fab skills I would cut it in the middle for a look similiar to this:

68556

Now that looks pretty sweet. Not a fan of the huge wing on the red one, although I know it is function over form.

[Z06killinSBF]

Zit looking gas cap though.

So y'all don't think I'm out galavanting around somewhere I took the day off and after taking the wife shopping I hit the car up with the welder. More of my crappy fab work. Wheel tub filler spot welded in and then I stitched the top side for a smooth finish once ground down. Boring and slow progress but its all I have.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/12/43D510EC5C9240E0A22E4904124B443829600000-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/12/3FC27337E72D4390B89377D5D8D33F4129600000-1.jpg

[Z06killinSBF]

Take note of that lovely brazing, ya fun!

[stillridin]

If I had your fab skills I would cut it in the middle for a look similiar to this:

68556
Sorry to jack the thread but where is this mustang from?

[E-Vukets]

They are a lot better skills than mine, I have never even welded before haha! I agree the gas cap takes away from the clean look but I like it for the body colored rear bumper and spoiler. The mustang is Kevin Tetz's “Project Jaded” '66 Mustang from sema.

[Z06killinSBF]

Ya he has a build page on here. Beautiful car but there are things I don't care for, but that's his car not mine. It does make me want an emerald green color though, perhaps olive drab and really piss everyone off.

[GrabberGT]

Look up John Parsons' II Much Nova. The deck lid spoiler like that would look good on yours.

[gearheads78]

Car is looking good. I agree with the others leave the caps on with the spoiler. I just don't see it ever looking right without them.

[Z06killinSBF]

Look up John Parsons' II Much Nova. The deck lid spoiler like that would look good on yours.

Ya, not bad

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif

After looking up different angles of the current one I have, it has started growing on me again.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/12/mump_1210_04_1966_ford_mustang_hardtop_2-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/12/mump_1210_08_1966_ford_mustang_hardtop_2-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/12/131287d1306602136picsopinionsspoilers196-1.jpg


And then I came across this:
http://www.jefflilly.com/current-projects/66-fastback/pages/rear-spoiler.html

[Z06killinSBF]

What's a good coating to get for the underside of this thing? I want something textured, glossy and black. I've seen some of the spray sound deadener has a grey/purple hue to them.

[Yellow66]

I'm a huge fan of the roll on bedliner for the underside of my cars. Did it in both 66 coupes and my 65 Falcon. The Falcon is a daily driver right now, rain, snow (un-nerving), etc... and it's holding up really well.

[Z06killinSBF]

That does look good, which kit?

[dusterbd13]

i used hurculiner in a truck in the mid 90's. did not hhold up well. hopefully its gotten better since then....

[kmcanally]

I put this stuff on the bottom of mine and then painted with DP90.
http://3mcollision.com/3m-rocker-schutz-coating-08874.html

[KacyZ28]

Since you are thinking repaint anyway, maybe try out something like this
68862

with a satin deck lid and the spoiler w/ end caps

[kmcanally]

I put this stuff on the bottom of mine and then painted with DP90.
http://3mcollision.com/3m-rocker-schutz-coating-08874.html

Looks like this:

68863

[LowFast]

Looks like this:

68863

Now that looks nice, not too shiney. How long has it been on, hows it holding up?

[MAYHEM Customs]

Looks like Ring Brothers @ SEMA!
Sorry to jack the thread but where is this mustang from?

[Yellow66]

My coupe is Herculiner I believe. Whatever brand had Kevlar mixed in....
The wife's coupe and my falcon are Rustoleum brand. The rustoleum has less sheen and a smoother surface.

[Z06killinSBF]

I've been fabbing up trunk pans so not much to look at. I did shave my bumper bolts and fix the crocked end piece it had. I'm now knocking around an idea to smooth the license plate cut out and drop the plate down a little. I think I'm going to do it but am gonna leave it in my "fab paint" (tape) and sleep on it.

Before:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/12/F1FAA33867524D289B6C6C3575C0857017022000-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/12/6DDE8185DA784BB2B91636B109929A0F17022000-1.jpg

After:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/12/64E96518062247B28E130AAF60A69F3317022000-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/12/40125AE90F5143E8A185219E7E06B07B17022000-1.jpg


Also, I picked up Herculiner for my pans but I have to wait till Xmas to open the box I bought.

[454bug]

Great progress on the updates! The bumper is definitely a lot cleaner look with the area closed in. The license plate doesn't look too low. I vote for the end caps on the spoiler.

Since I am running fiberglass fenders on my car, I am also real interested in the options for undercoating that is durable and chip resistant. I was planning on using some kind of "rhino-liner" truck bed material as well since it needs to have a "rubbery" texture to it to ward off spider cracks in my fenders when my sticky tires picks up rocks on the road or track!

Keep up the great work! :cheers:

[Z06killinSBF]

I agree, I'm going to put the end caps back on. I like the spoiler too much to ditch it. I plan to pick up some panel adhesive and blend the caps to the body. Just time and money right?

[dusterbd13]

is that an uncut explorer 8.8 sitting under the car?

like the bumper mod by teh way. id say leave it, and the spoiler end caps.

[Z06killinSBF]

At the moment it is uncut, I just trimmed all the brackets off. I'm waiting to get the wheels to see if it needs narrowing. I have another short side axle so I can narrow it 3" for free.

[dusterbd13]

can you grab a measurement for me? im looking at using one since i determined i hurt my freshly rebuilt, $1200 8.75. not spending the money again if the guy doenst stand behind it....

was wondering if you could measure to the center of the pinion from the wheel mounting flange on either side. i know it will be different due to pinion offset, but cant seem to find the specs im looking for. the overall width i know, and is PERFECT for my combo right now.

michael

[Z06killinSBF]

Roughly 33" DS and 29-1/2" PS. Now those are done with a stick of wood and a tape measure, single person, not perfect.

[Z06killinSBF]

Crap, subtract 1-1/2" as those were measured from the ends of the lugs. So 31-1/2" DS and 27" PS.

[dusterbd13]

you are, quite simply, the MAN! thanks so much!!!

[Z06killinSBF]

Thanks no problem.

Btw, I know I've received quite a bit of positive feedback and I noticed I haven't given proper thanks to everyone (**** move on my part). Thank you everyone for the support and excellent feedback, I do truly take what you say to consideration.

[GrabberGT]

Yet another reason to stay with grabber blue... Painters tape is a perfect color match for track day masking to protect the paint. I like the body color bumper and blacked out tail panel with that spoiler.

Are you rolling on the rhino liner?

[Z06killinSBF]

Getting por-15 put on.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/01/B65F29A1F8174E838F7B191465EFF5B513270000-1.jpg

Bed liner will be rolled on after I do seam sealer.

[stillridin]

Car looks good sitting there. Good luck sealing

[Z06killinSBF]

I wish the paint looked as good in person as it does in pictures. I has scuffs, scratches and cracks (now add a burnt spot).

[dusterbd13]

so does mine.

but it makes me worry less about driving it. i actually kind of enjoy pointing all the imperfections out, as i know where ALL of them came from. except some random chips around the wheelwells.....


and dont get POR15 in your hair. it gums up clippers when you have to cut it out.
michael

[Z06killinSBF]

Haha, too late on the hair. I was able to get most out after the shower then got a buzz today.

The stuff dried hard as a rock and is slicker than greased goose.... Well, you know the rest.

[Z06killinSBF]

Uhh ohh!! Something is happening!

Teaser pic. Who can guess what's going on?

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif

[stillridin]

Do it! Do it! Haha

[Z06killinSBF]

Alright, can't wait to show. The bezels will get blacked out and solid red lenses added. I'd like to get some led panels too. Picked em up for $30 online.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/01/FE2B8FC8018B4CBA95EDAC9727D498A216779000-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/01/7870BC4463D342D2A85E62CFAAC063A516779000-1.jpg

[Z06killinSBF]

Duplicate post

[stillridin]

Wait a minute. Isin't that a camaro tail light? 68?

[Z06killinSBF]

Yes, 67. I think it'll win you over after its completed.

It fits really well, still need to do some trimming as its just roughed in

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/01/1F018852CE9F4FB6A99A5920598E596416779000-1.jpg

[icemanrd19]

im right down the road from you. If you needed those tail lights i could have just given them too you. My new tail lights would work even better for you :)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/04/IMAG0010-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/04/IMAG0009-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/04/IMAG0008-1.jpg

[Z06killinSBF]

I actually will take them. The dude sold me 2 RH side ones!

[stillridin]

No negative here! It's different. I think you better run down to Icemanrd's house and pic those up.

[icemanrd19]

ok im heading over to the shop tomorrow. Anything else camaro related that you need?

[Z06killinSBF]

I don't think so. Those are straight baller status. Pm me your number, where is the shop at?

[LowFast]

Oh, its the lights, I thought you finally ran out of blue painters tape. :lmao:

[Z06killinSBF]

Oh, its the lights, I thought you finally ran out of blue painters tape. :lmao:

Fab paint. Don't hate.

[mooseknuckles]

cool build!...like the camaro tails...

[gearheads78]

Its your car but not liking the Camaro lights at all unless you did the all custom red ones like posted a few posts back.

[Z06killinSBF]

Its your car but not liking the Camaro lights at all unless you did the all custom red ones like posted a few posts back.

No problem, I just ask you wait to pass judgment until I get it painted up and on the ground. Unfortunately I won't be using those very nice lights like posted (maybe one day) but ill make mine custom enough. I am just tired of the same ole stuff being done.

[gearheads78]

No problem, I just ask you wait to pass judgment until I get it painted up and on the ground. Unfortunately I won't be using those very nice lights like posted (maybe one day) but ill make mine custom enough. I am just tired of the same ole stuff being done.

I know where you are coming from and like how you are thinking outside the box. I hope you can pull it off.

[stillridin]

You know what would be really trick with those tail lights. I was thinking about this last night. If you don't do it I am. Don't use the bezel. Weld some studs on the inside and you would have to make a frame for the inside,just to make it a little thicker around the light opening. Your would be easier to do than mine. You have that nice flat panel. See, that's what I want something different also. A different nose or rear valance or something.

[Z06killinSBF]

Ok, I have to move in a few weeks do I need to make the mustang mobile.

10am
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/01/5A84D92FA1C949BD95A722DCA264892412820000-1.jpg

4pm
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/01/E2A42159AC2F4E6A8C40942FB8ABA11112820000-1.jpg

This includes a junkyard run and a parts run. I need to put another tire on the driver side wheel as it has a huge crack in the side wall.

[Z06killinSBF]

Cobras or Bullits? I forgot how small the car is when it's sitting down.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/01/F0615DF0F96042CD8A24AC649E8E684F12820000-1.jpg

[vette427-sbc]

Definitely Cobras... Looks killer on the ground!

[Z06killinSBF]

I thought this looks cool. Iceman, these are your bezels, I swapped left to right because they have a taper to them.

Keep in mind these are just 275s and so I can move the car around on.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/01/0C270E8911764BD397F38C5790B6546614890000-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/01/BA4200843C6C49138341151390CF269D14890000-1.jpg

[kencobra]

Z06killinSBF, your project is looking great and on pace with what I am currently doing to my '66 coupe. so far i have had it mini tubbed and the rear frame have been cut and boxed and moved out to allow the 315 / 35. Also the trunk floor has been cut / discarded and new one welded in to hold future fuel cell. Currently the firewall has been removed to make way for a complete smooth [piece which should be finished by weeks end. Shock towers have been removed and a Rod and Custom Mustang 2 has started going in. Now its time to save more cash to buy the wheels and tires and then measure for the Currie. good luck to you and keep us posted!

[Antti66ht]

Make the frame rail stiffeners. They do good at Mustangs. 60x60x2t psquare profile (mm´s it is) goes right inside front frame rails and just make the design at the back as you want. Mine goes smoothly in to rear frame, protruding about 1" inside rear leg room. There are many ready products also available, if you dont feel like fabricating ;) Bigger thin walled is better than thick wall small diameter, by the way.

planning to mini tub mine too, Going with 295-30-18 Yokohamas, which should fit easily, with Fikse 10 inch wheels. FR500C model... :)

[vette427-sbc]

The camaro tails are really growing on me... my suggestion would be to get a piece of lexan, tint it and use some red LED bulbs. If you keep it looking close to this, Im in :smoke:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/01/0C270E8911764BD397F38C5790B6546614890000-1.jpg

[Z06killinSBF]

Chris, it will look very close to that. I'm going to even lose the chrome for an all black look. Perhaps a frenched style too I've been kicking around.

[Gitter Dun]

Started reading this thread from the start and couldn't stop. Just wanted to say great Job!!

[Z06killinSBF]

More work on getting it all reassembled for the move. Since I don't know when I'll be able to work on it next I'm trying to get it back almost 100%.

Layed some por-15 down over the new metal and unprotected area, stuck the interior back in and fit the other tail light. More painters tape as well. Reason one taillight looks funny is one is painted and the other is sun bleached and they are held in by friction.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/01/C04BB133E7504808B6EB12F847E38A5644090000-1.jpg

I had a few helpers
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/01/636070AE36DC4D149ACB27AE1342591544090000-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/01/CB2F1B6E624C4F1AA14F8986BCAA0CDD44090000-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/01/5C15F6AB68C046D387CF188A196C54EE44090000-1.jpg

[stillridin]

Looks like you got some good help. To cute!

[E-Vukets]

Wow, you are doing a fantastic job with that car! I saw 1968 firebird taillights on a 65 fastback before and thought it looked good, but these ones look even better! Prepare your flame suit of someone on vintage-mustang finds a picture of them though... I'm glad you are keeping the ducktail, the fabricated one you linked looked like they were trying to make their trunk into a 67-68 fatback one.

[Z06killinSBF]

Funny you mention VMF, I posted them up in my thread there and haven't got any traffic!! No feed back or anything.

[E-Vukets]

There's too many purists or people who make boring shelby clones in the mustang following sadly. I will go over there and say ford should have made the tail lights that way haha!

[KnightMare]

I like those taillights on there. They would look way better on my 67 lemans compared to the stock lights

[LowFast]

Where ya moving to?

[Z06killinSBF]

Where ya moving to?

Staying local, I'm renting at this moment and they want to sell the house.

[LowFast]

Why not just rent a uhaul car hauler and save the rush of putting the car back together?

[Z06killinSBF]

It needed to be a roller and the interior was all over the garage. No rush here just "sticking" it back together so as not to lose anything/make the move easier.

[srh3trinity]

I know others have said it, but the tail lights look great. It gives the car a wide body look.

[Z06killinSBF]

So I'm thinking of trying to get these 17x9's to fit up front. Do y'all think if I push the wheel out far enough it will clear fine?

[E-Vukets]

I wish you luck, my 17x8s with 235s rub and am going down to 17x7s, but my pony still wears a stock-style suspension with a 1 1/8" sway bar...

[LowFast]

So I'm thinking of trying to get these 17x9's to fit up front. Do y'all think if I push the wheel out far enough it will clear fine?

Time for wheel flares! You plan to repaint anyway might as well go full out on it.

[65coupe408w]

I am on VMF too... great site for not tooo out of the box thinking. Once you get a little crazy I think it scares people away hahah.

I think you have seen my 408 fastback on other mustang forums, and were one of the few to comment. I think it deserves a little more love than it gets...but maybe im bias ;)

Great work on your project! Cant wait to see the finished product!

[Z06killinSBF]

I don't recal the car, can you post a picture?

[Z06killinSBF]

Haven't touched my car since I moved it over against the wall. And to make sure this page has pictures, here is one of my truck today.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/01/42497F3B55C148AEA9F964B72586C14244030000-1.jpg

[Z06killinSBF]

I've been doing some research on subtle fender flares and this is what I'd like to roll with

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/01/tumblr_mhd30yZCM21s1f10do1_1280-1.jpg

[stillridin]

Look at that front valance. OMG! So are you going with the red feathered flare or the jean short flare or the one in white.lol

[LowFast]

Hotness! Now that is how you fiberglass out a stang.

[Z06killinSBF]

Red feather.

[Jetfixr320]

Very subtle, Was it even modified? ;-)

[E-Vukets]

Good thing they had a pretty model for the photos or else our eyes would burn from that terrible "mustang" thing... It's probably how most mustang guys see pro-touring cars haha! On the plus side the gas cap looks really nice

Roll with some of these flares http://mustangsdaily.com/blog/2011/11/03/sema-2011-filip-trojaneks-1966-widebody-mustang-race-car/ but ditch the spoiler and you could probably fit a 10 inch wide rim :)

[stillridin]

Red feather.
Haha, Yes sir

Very subtle, Was it even modified? ;-)
Yea blended those flares right in there.lol

[dusterbd13]

is it sad that except for the front valance, i kinda like it? granted, i always geek over the old imsa cars. like the old c3 vettes. really l;iked those, and the origonal imsa IROC second gen camaros, etc. just dig it.

needs more itb's, hole in teh hood to show them off, different front valance, and wild 70's race car paint.

[65coupe408w]

I don't recal the car, can you post a picture?

This is the coupe I used to have...
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/01/DSC002081-1.jpg

I have since moved the powertrain to this...
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/01/fastback4-1.jpg

mini tub looks great! could always get a set of 17x10.5 cobra reps for the rear!

[Z06killinSBF]

This is the coupe I used to have...

I have since moved the powertrain to this...


mini tub looks great! could always get a set of 17x10.5 cobra reps for the rear!
Ahh yes, I've seen your cars. Very nice stuff you have. I'm still up in the air on wheels at this moment. Getting the wide Bullitts makes things very simple but it to me is an over played wheel.

[Z06killinSBF]

Good thing they had a pretty model for the photos or else our eyes would burn from that terrible "mustang" thing... It's probably how most mustang guys see pro-touring cars haha! On the plus side the gas cap looks really nice

Roll with some of these flares http://mustangsdaily.com/blog/2011/11/03/sema-2011-filip-trojaneks-1966-widebody-mustang-race-car/ but ditch the spoiler and you could probably fit a 10 inch wide rim :)
Not a fan of those style of flares, not a fan.

[65coupe408w]

I agree...its worth thinking outside of the box and having something unique!

[blade]

I think that flared mustang must have like a 3" lift so that they could fit the tires and that front valance!

[Z06killinSBF]

Moved it to it's new home. My friend came up with what I expected to be a flatbed, nope. 36' enclosed.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif

[LowFast]

Now that trailer is "ball'n", very nice.

[maxamil]

When you get done with those 03' Cobra wheels shoot me a PM ill buy em' from you. I need some rolling stock to mock up my 66' Pro-Touring build.

[Z06killinSBF]

You don't want these, they are trashed and one tire wont hold air. It wouldn't be economical to ship them.

[Z06killinSBF]

I haven't made any progress because I've been traveling for work the past 2 months almost straight!

I did get 2 of these in the mail though

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https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif

[E-Vukets]

Those bullitts look great, they are common but they are common because they just look so good! I really wanted Y-spokes on mine but I just couldn't resist the black torque thrust Ms... Wish mine had lip like that though, can't wait to see when you eventually get them on the car!

[Z06killinSBF]

PROGRESS!!!!

8.8 is narrowed

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/05/Rear1_zpsb011fefb-1.jpg (http://s9.photobucket.com/user/Z06killinSBF/media/Rear1_zpsb011fefb.jpg.html)

new wheels fit perfect

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/05/Newwheels3_zpscdc815f3-1.jpg (http://s9.photobucket.com/user/Z06killinSBF/media/Newwheels3_zpscdc815f3.jpg.html)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/05/Newwheels2_zpsc5a3d6a4-1.jpg (http://s9.photobucket.com/user/Z06killinSBF/media/Newwheels2_zpsc5a3d6a4.jpg.html)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/05/Newwheels1_zpsec69b3e6-1.jpg (http://s9.photobucket.com/user/Z06killinSBF/media/Newwheels1_zpsec69b3e6.jpg.html)

Its sitting on jackstands due to lack of axle bearings, I'll get those soon so I can roll it outside.

[projectPONY]

Looks awesome! Who did the narrowing?

[Z06killinSBF]

Brooks Performance, Ft Worth, TX. Although you know them, others may not. Great place, wonderful service.

[projectPONY]

Something told me you were going to say "Brooks", another great job.

[Z06killinSBF]

He did a great job at a great price. $160 to narrow a tube and weld up the tubes to the housing. All work is Tig'd.

[projectPONY]

Let me ask you this, is it necessary to have the wheels you plan on using BEFORE you narrow the rear?

[Z06killinSBF]

It would be recommended but I went off pre-determined measurements for the axle and hoped the wheels fit. Luckily my redneck measurements paid off. Hurray for firsts!!

[no go nova]

Love your build you making think I should do rear frame rails on my Nova when I do the mini tub.

[projectPONY]

well I guess luck was on your side then. good job.

I meant to take you up on the offer to come up and check it out, I just couldn't find the time. maybe when my daughter's soccer season starts back up in July I'll find the time. that is, if the offer still stands, of course.

[Z06killinSBF]

Not much to see but a few beers can be had, come on!

Hell ya, cut up the Nova! Step outside the box.

[projectPONY]

Not much to see but a few beers can be had, come on!

sounds like a plan! I'll be in touch. I'm mostly interested in your mini-tub work.

[GrabberGT]

Looks great. I was going to compliment your welding progress until you mentioned someone else did the work. LOL. Glad your back at it. Keep it going.

[srh3trinity]

The new wheels and tires look great. I like the spoiler and where you are going with the taillights too. If you don't mind me asking, can you share how much you have in the 8.8 swap. Is it an Explorer setup? I am really thinking about using one of these with Big-bearing ends and centering up the pinion. Where did you source the axles from or did you have the existing ones shortened and re-splined? You have to get some bearings pressed on too for the BBF ends right?

[Z06killinSBF]

I picked up the explorer rear for $175 at the junk yard. 3.73's, 31 spline, trac loc, disks. Lowfast gave me new backing plates and a short side axle. I had a local shop cut the long tube down to the length to fit the other short axle for $160. So 2 stock right side axles and a cut down tube. I'm using the stock axle ends, they're plenty strong. I believe Lowfast is running 9" brakes on his explorer 8.8 with the stock 8.8 tube ends.

[srh3trinity]

Do you remember the width running the axles you are running?

[LowFast]

Yep, 12" Wilwoods w/ D154 caliper meant for big bearing 9" ends, bolted right up.

[srh3trinity]

I wonder if Tobin's c6 brackets would work. He makes one for Big bearing ends.

[Z06killinSBF]

Do you remember the width running the axles you are running?

I believe it's close to the stock 8" width. Whatever an Explorer rear is minus 3".

[Jetfixr320]

My Explorer 8.8 with 3" removed is, From wheel mounting point to wheel mounting point its 56.5" may be off a little.

[kmcanally]

OK..I am getting a real bad case of the mini-tub fever


PROGRESS!!!!

8.8 is narrowed

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/05/Rear1_zpsb011fefb-1.jpg (http://s9.photobucket.com/user/Z06killinSBF/media/Rear1_zpsb011fefb.jpg.html)

new wheels fit perfect

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/05/Newwheels3_zpscdc815f3-1.jpg (http://s9.photobucket.com/user/Z06killinSBF/media/Newwheels3_zpscdc815f3.jpg.html)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/05/Newwheels2_zpsc5a3d6a4-1.jpg (http://s9.photobucket.com/user/Z06killinSBF/media/Newwheels2_zpsc5a3d6a4.jpg.html)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/05/Newwheels1_zpsec69b3e6-1.jpg (http://s9.photobucket.com/user/Z06killinSBF/media/Newwheels1_zpsec69b3e6.jpg.html)

Its sitting on jackstands due to lack of axle bearings, I'll get those soon so I can roll it outside.

[Z06killinSBF]

I took the duck tail off and stuck all the stock pieces back on. It cleaned it up a bit IMO so it may stay like this.

Better view of wheels and tires.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/05/IMG_4787_zps47d9d765-1.jpg (http://s9.photobucket.com/user/Z06killinSBF/media/IMG_4787_zps47d9d765.jpg.html)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/05/IMG_4786_zps0b7cbda4-1.jpg (http://s9.photobucket.com/user/Z06killinSBF/media/IMG_4786_zps0b7cbda4.jpg.html)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/05/IMG_4780_zpsa1ddb091-1.jpg (http://s9.photobucket.com/user/Z06killinSBF/media/IMG_4780_zpsa1ddb091.jpg.html)

[69*Goat]

Leave the Duck Tail!!!!

It gives it an air of Bad Assness :)

[GrabberGT]

Leave the Duck Tail!!!!

It gives it an air of Bad Assness :)

I agree with Goat. Either that or street fighter style chin and decklid spoiler.

http://www.jakesrodshop.com/public_html/My_Albums_3/Pages/Black_Powder_coat_spoiler.html

Like this one but only on the decklid not to extend over the rear corners.

76339

[Z06killinSBF]

Question: for leaf spring sliders, do I get the Chrysler style or Camaro style? Also, does anyone have suggestions besides the Afco roller bearing sliders?

[Dmaxed]

Nice job on the fab work so far. Makes me want to get back to work on my S10. Since I moved I don't have a shop but hopefully I will fix that soon. I also picked up a 72 Nova and started a thread on it here. I love the Camaro tail lights by the way. Let haters hate.

[stillridin]

Question: for leaf spring sliders, do I get the Chrysler style or Camaro style? Also, does anyone have suggestions besides the Afco roller bearing sliders?
I didn't even know what a slider was till I read your post. I read another post where the guy compared Afco and CMS. They were pretty close. Afco housing was better but CMS had better hardware. Speedy had the afco for 83.00 but just saw amazon had it for 11.00 bucks?Pretty cheap. But 15 lbs.
Hers that link http://www.timskelton.com/lightning/race_prep/suspension/leaf_mods.htm

[Z06killinSBF]

Rearend is assembled and it rolled out of the garage on its own wheels!! Whoohooo! I'll post pics later but it looks killer sitting in the sun on the big tires.

[stillridin]

Rearend is assembled and it rolled out of the garage on its own wheels!! Whoohooo! I'll post pics later but it looks killer sitting in the sun on the big tires.

Can't wait to see it!

[Z06killinSBF]

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/08/rear2_zps6c4ceab4-1.jpg (http://s9.photobucket.com/user/Z06killinSBF/media/rear2_zps6c4ceab4.jpg.html)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/08/front_zpsbd97c5a6-1.jpg (http://s9.photobucket.com/user/Z06killinSBF/media/front_zpsbd97c5a6.jpg.html)

[LowFast]

Looks great, nothing like a nice fat rear tire. You have a date in mind that you plan to have it back on the road?

[Z06killinSBF]

Looks great, nothing like a nice fat rear tire. You have a date in mind that you plan to have it back on the road?

Thanks, I love it. I still have a few things to order like fuel cell, seat covers, rear brakes, front torque boxes, and some odds n ends. Tough doing while going to school, work, family and maintaining the other cars. I'd like to drive it before Xmas time.

[69*Goat]

Looking pretty sweet there! :)

[stillridin]

Yea that looks bad ass!

[Z06killinSBF]

I'm thinking about putting air ride on the front but I can't afford $800 Shockwaves. Does anyone know if the Firestone sleeve bags would work ok for this app?

[LowFast]

Don't do it! The only proven way to get good handling out of an air suspension is the Shockwave route. Plus sleeve bags ride very rough, you would want a bellow-type bag up front. Why are you wanting to go air ride? I would either say spend the money elsewhere on the car or save up until you can do the entire car, front and rear with a proper Ridetech set-up.

[Z06killinSBF]

Why are you wanting to go air ride?

To put it on the deck