84 Monte Carlo SS with Schwartz Performance G-body Chassis [Archive]

howehot

03-24-2012, 07:23 PM

Son and I tubbed the car before he took it as his final year project at auto body school for paint.
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howehot

03-24-2012, 07:27 PM

Wheel are from XXR. 18x8.5 front 18x12 rear. Rears were widen by Weldcraft 2"

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howehot

03-24-2012, 07:33 PM

My son, Josh is painting the car at tech school. He also work at a local dealership in their body shop preping and painting repaired vehicles. Here are some pieces that are done. Pictures are before color sanding and buffing.
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howehot

03-24-2012, 07:34 PM

After said sanding and buffing
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howehot

03-24-2012, 07:38 PM

More paint prep.
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howehot

03-24-2012, 07:43 PM

Only modification to the G body for this chassis is the trunk area. The spare tire well needs to be removed and the gas tank center under the rear of the car. Schwartz will provide these pieces.

We applied U-Pol Rpator bedliner to the bottom of the car.

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howehot

03-24-2012, 07:49 PM

Core support paint with emron paint
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howehot

03-24-2012, 07:51 PM

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r.a.w.rods

03-24-2012, 08:04 PM

looking really good. Can't wait to see some outside pictures.

CruizinKev

03-25-2012, 03:23 AM

SO MUCH DROOL ON MY KEYBOARD! :twothumbs I love that chassis!!! :twothumbs

howehot

04-01-2012, 07:06 PM

Body is back on the chassis
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Doors, taillight extentions, mirrors, and repaint on nose. Nose had fisheye issue on the first go around, much better this time.
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Block sanding has been started on the body and should be painted by weeks end.

I should receive a radiator form a company that is coming out with a new line for G-bodies. This SS will be used in their marketing. I will provide more info and many photos when i get it. This is a drop in unit, spal fans, catch can, and harness. Tranny cooler has quick connect fittings. More to come.

SS PUNISHER

04-02-2012, 03:49 AM

Wheel are from XXR. 18x8.5 front 18x12 rear. Rears were widen by Weldcraft 2"

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/03/97554102-1.jpgI've been eyein those wheels for a while now, what'd it run to widen them?

RobertGP

04-02-2012, 03:59 AM

Great work! Love the chassis...
How much i have to spent for a frame like yours?

howehot

04-02-2012, 04:29 AM

Great work! Love the chassis...
How much i have to spent for a frame like yours?

If you go to www.schwartzperformance.com (http://www.schwartzperformance.com) you can price one out with your options. Not cheap but by the time I added the brakes, suspension, 9" rearend, knotch and box frame, it didn't measure up to this for not alot more $$$. Also this is 125 lbs lighter than stock and 200% stiffer, allows up to 14 wide rear rubber, and has been proven by Schwartz.

howehot

04-02-2012, 04:37 AM

I've been eyein those wheels for a while now, what'd it run to widen them?

Weldcraft was great to work with. When I called to ship them, I was told they were back logged and turn aound time was 5-6 weeks. Received them back in little over 4. Price was $225 per wheel but that varies by your order. www.weldcraftwheels.com

Eggy44

04-02-2012, 06:41 PM

That chassis is SICK!!!! Can't wait to see it on the ground with those wheels on it!

Keep up the incredible work!

jeff s

04-03-2012, 04:55 AM

Nice work! Can't wait to see it at Car Craft Nats.

ryeguy2006a

04-03-2012, 12:47 PM

Very nice, I used to have an 87 SS as my DD. Unfortunately between gas prices at $4.50 at the time, and that it was only getting around 15 mpg on the highway. I had to get rid of it because I couldn't support it on my college budget.

SRD art

04-03-2012, 01:24 PM

Great build. After beefing up my chassis several folks asked what I thought about the Schwartz frame. Will you be beating on the car at events? I'm really curious how the new frame's benefits weighs against a factory based frame build on the track.

Either way it's plain gorgeous. Your son is doing a great job. Love (and covet) your wheels. Looking forward to more updates!

howehot

04-03-2012, 01:50 PM

This will be a driver and autocrossed as much as I can. Hoping to have it completed for SuperChevy in St. Louis. Then Goodguys Des Moines on Sunday. It WILL be at CarCraft in St Paul in July, that has been the plan since CarCraft last year when this chassis deal started. LS Fest is also on the calender. Family has great friends near Bowling Green and they are looking forward to the weekend.

I have all the major components to finish, all I need is the car painted and the time for assembly. I'm self employed and busy as all get out every spring, but with a few hours each evening I think it will come together.

howehot

04-03-2012, 01:54 PM

Nice work! Can't wait to see it at Car Craft Nats.

Thanks Jeff, that means alot to Josh and I. Josh is hoping this will open some doors of oppurtunity.

pmgm

04-07-2012, 04:55 AM

That frame is awesome ... I can't wait to see your car with wheels on it...

howehot

04-12-2012, 04:02 PM

Finally have paint on the body. A week worth of little delays that took away from a day in the booth but getting closer to bringing it home. Josh said paint laid down great. Anyone interested, he graduates in May with a 2 year degree and would love to work in a custom shop.

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howehot

04-12-2012, 04:54 PM

Josh also mocked up the stripe for the front fenders. Color will be silver with a grey pinstripe similar to th Corvette Gran Sport.

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howehot

04-12-2012, 05:11 PM

More paint pictures.

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CruizinKev

04-15-2012, 03:00 AM

looks great!! :cheers:

frankenstang

04-15-2012, 06:25 AM

Looks awesome! I watched that chassis get built at the shop. When Jeff first started doing the full frames for the 1st gen Camaro, I told him he needed to make a G body one to help out all the rust belt guys. The 'metric' chassis is really popular around here. Only took Jeff 4 yrs to finally get around to it! I guess he was waiting for the first customer to really commit to buying one.

My guess is, this car will set the bar high and really help promote the G body line.

Can't wait to see what it looks like with the wheels on.

randywyatt2000

04-15-2012, 06:49 AM

nice monte carlo ss

mone

04-15-2012, 10:38 AM

So with the frame you can run up to a 14 inch wide wheel?Up to what size?I want a 20x12 or 14 for my Malibu

csouth

04-15-2012, 11:17 AM

This is coming together really nice, that Schwartz chassis should be a lot of fun. Weldcraft does great work, I had them repair a wheel for me a couple of years ago. I love it that they are only 20min from me :)

howehot

04-15-2012, 04:36 PM

So with the frame you can run up to a 14 inch wide wheel?Up to what size?I want a 20x12 or 14 for my Malibu

The frame is designed for wheels up to 14" wide. The tubs will need modifying to accept the width. That said you can make the tub fit your wheel choice.

howehot

04-16-2012, 05:48 PM

Dewitt radiators sent me their 2nd radiator for a G-body today. They are known for Corvette and Tri-five rads and are expanding their product line. This piece is a by-pass unit for an LS conversion, trans cooler with factory disconnects, and dual spal fans. It comes fully assembled and drops right in. I purchased a Cutlas top plate which Josh has so he can spray it with the Emron paint to match the core support

Jeff Schwartz got me in contact with them after a rep called him looking for a G-Body to promote this unit for Dewitt. Wanted a high profile car that would get driven. This car fit the bill. Just another reason for Schwartz Performance to build your chassis. They continue to help me out on many ways and i cannot thank them enough.

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CruizinKev

04-17-2012, 07:09 AM

wow thing looks great! :twothumbs

liquidh8

04-18-2012, 02:42 PM

Looking good, can't wait to see some more pictures of it!

howehot

04-18-2012, 05:14 PM

The SS will be home Friday. Should be able to get some daylight pictures. Doors are mounted, mirrors on, windows in, opera windows installed, and most of the buffing done. Josh said their is a spot near the drip rail that needs some attention. His instructor said it looked like his gun shot a load of shstuff. They were discussing the remedy when I talked to him. He said it can be remedied, I will know more later tonight.

howehot

04-21-2012, 06:05 PM

The Monte is finally home. Paint is awesome. Josh has done a wonderful job. He will finish the front fenders this week. I picked it up from Hawkeye Community College yesterday. Josh will graduate in a few weeks.

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howehot

04-21-2012, 06:15 PM

Got home and mocked up a rear tire so I could order wheel spacers. The hub on the wheel also will be machined from its current 1 1/2" to 2" to clear the hat on the Moser 9". A local shop will do this once I have the spacees. The pictures show the tire 1/2" out from where it needs to be. This will allow 3/8" clearance to the fender lip. Car is being held up by a jack in the pictures so the ride height is not correct. I could not install the lugs due to the hub interference.

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howehot

04-21-2012, 06:23 PM

Rear is now fully assembled. All the trim is on and the passenger door seal done. Seems like a lot for one day but things went pretty smooth.

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Mocked up a front tire also. This is going to be a great ride. Cant wait to drive it.

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CruizinKev

04-22-2012, 01:33 AM

WOW LOOKS GREAT!!! :twothumbs can't wait to see more!!

daveybtv

04-22-2012, 04:54 AM

Wow I love how this is comming togeter, looks great

SS PUNISHER

04-22-2012, 05:07 AM

Lookin good! Those wheels are gonna look even better once you get it sittin at ride height.

howehot

04-22-2012, 06:52 PM

Installed the LS1 today to get measurements for front drive system. Going with the GMPP system for the CTS-V. 2" of clearance for the low mount AC compressor and plenty of clearance for the power steering pump reservoir. Removed the engine, tranny is being beef up and cam still needs to be installed.

I've been concerned about header clearance and the steering shaft. There is 3-3 1/2" along the shaft. Anybody know if G-body LS headers will clear?

Also started the Be Quiet sound control. I need to do some work on the way the shifter location before I can finish

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SRD art

04-22-2012, 10:41 PM

Great progress, keep it coming...

instro84

04-24-2012, 05:19 PM

Wheel are from XXR. 18x8.5 front 18x12 rear. Rears were widen by Weldcraft 2"

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do you have to use adapters for the XXR wheels? i didn't think they made them in the gm bolt pattern

howehot

04-24-2012, 06:17 PM

do you have to use adapters for the XXR wheels? i didn't think they made them in the gm bolt pattern

These have a dual pattern, including 5x4 3/4. No adapter required. I don't know if all the XXR wheels are this way. They are very limited on backspacing. I needed 1" spacer for the rear and have to machine the hub out to 2" to fit the moser 9".

mone

04-24-2012, 06:21 PM

It's funny how the import crowd clowns the XXR brand but here the wheels are nice lol

howehot

04-24-2012, 07:02 PM

Jeff has used them on some other builds. I ask him for a suggestion on budget wheels and he recommended them and Weld Craft for the widening. If I tear one up, I'm not out a lot unless the wheel is discontinued.

instro84

04-24-2012, 08:46 PM

i've noticed that, trying to talk my son into a set.

SS PUNISHER

04-25-2012, 12:10 AM

It's funny how the import crowd clowns the XXR brand but here the wheels are nice lol

Ahahaha! I've heard quite a few knocking the brand yet they were rollin steelies... Throw a BBS sticker on there and they'll be hangin all over the boys..... clowns!

Tony_SS

04-25-2012, 05:17 AM

These have a dual pattern, including 5x4 3/4. No adapter required. I don't know if all the XXR wheels are this way. They are very limited on backspacing. I needed 1" spacer for the rear and have to machine the hub out to 2" to fit the moser 9".

I would certainly make sure the adapters are both hub and wheel centric. http://www.wheeladapter.com/ is where I got mine.. Fred makes them exact to your specs.

Dons67

04-25-2012, 06:04 AM

This is a beautiful car - keep it up really looking forward to the finished project

85coupe50

04-25-2012, 09:57 AM

Everything looks great! The wheels look awesome. That chassis is sick!

coolwelder62

04-25-2012, 01:09 PM

Very Nice Build.Can't wait to see it finished.

howehot

04-25-2012, 05:51 PM

Modified the rear seat frame to fit the widen tubs. Fits like factory.
This is before,

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This is after,

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Front seat are Procar Elites in white. Rear seat, upper door panels, and rear inserts will also be done in white. GSI Interiors is doing the job. The white and blue will be similar to the 83 and early 84 SS.

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SRD art

04-26-2012, 06:19 AM

Very cool. I like the mod on the seat frame, I dig it when you can make the interior work around the mods. I like the white too. It's refreshing to see something other than black, and it should look smooth and "svelte" (best word I could come up with to describe what I envision) with that shade of blue. Keep it coming!

BLWN1

04-26-2012, 08:58 PM

howehot

04-27-2012, 01:04 PM

Im wanting that frame so bad!!!!!! Bad ass i had flat blacked my firewall and wanted it body color, I think im going that route now. Are you leaving the ac box as shown? I hate GM made it so tacky.... hard to do much with. I had taken most of my air stuff off, but I think Im putting it back eventually. Killer build, how far from the Qc area are you?

A/C box wiil remain. I would love to remove it and go with vintage air but not now. May paint it black so it matches a littlle better. Inner fenders will also be blue. I had a local blaster distroy the originals removing Z-Bart rust proofer. Soda wouldn't do it so he switched to sand. Warped them beyond repair so he paid for new.

It's a 3 hour drive to the Quad cities from the house.

Dan

howehot

04-30-2012, 07:37 PM

Looking for input for headers suggestions. Steering shaft is 3-3 1/2" from block and head.

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Brakes are bled and front tires mounted. Liking the modified look, would save nose weight.

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SRD art

04-30-2012, 09:50 PM

Coming along nice Dan. From my point of view looks like your best option is to have some tight tubes shoot forward. And since you're doing that, just as well slap a couple turbines on the ends of 'em. Yep, that'll solve about 95% of the problem right there. The other 5% is trying to get traction with your current rear tire choice, lol!

Seriously though, what did Schwartz suggest? What are the Shwartz chassied A and F body cars using? Maybe custom built is the best way to go(?), looks real tight in there. Might be a fun adventure to make your own if you can tig weld. Either way, good luck, I'm sure you'll have it worked out in no time.

howehot

05-01-2012, 04:40 AM

Schwartz normally makes their own although they said some have used aftermarket. They are finishing up an El Camino LS swap and used some shorty style but are are 1 5/8 tubes. I prefer 1 3/4 and long tubes. Eleven with those Dale wasn't sure if they would clear the shaft. Edelbrock A body were brought up in conversation. This's has been my biggest worry since I got the car back. Think I'll try some pacesetter f body and go from there.

howehot

05-03-2012, 07:30 PM

Paint is done. Josh finished the fenders and some misc. parts today. The fender stripes will receive a dark grey pinstripe. Need the tranny back so we can install the LS1/4L60E before we assemble the front clip.

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SRD art

05-04-2012, 04:23 AM

Nice!

LeighP

05-04-2012, 04:59 AM

heck of a nice job. Great looking ride!

Samckitt

05-04-2012, 05:01 AM

Wheel are from XXR. 18x8.5 front 18x12 rear. Rears were widen by Weldcraft 2"

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Forgive me if posted somewhere and I missed it, what's the specs on these tires?
Thanks,
Scot

howehot

05-04-2012, 02:46 PM

forgive me if posted somewhere and i missed it, what's the specs on these tires?
Thanks,
scot

335/30/18 rears, 275/35/18 fronts

Samckitt

05-04-2012, 03:50 PM

335/30/18 rears, 275/35/18 fronts

What brand?

howehot

05-04-2012, 04:28 PM

What brand?

Sorry, BF Goodrich KDW'S.

Samckitt

05-04-2012, 05:10 PM

Sorry, BF Goodrich KDW'S.

Dang, doesn't come in 315 width.

olds87

05-04-2012, 09:20 PM

Do you have to modify the front wheels at all? What is the off set you have on wheels? I was thinking of getting the same set of wheels for my car, but in gold color.

howehot

05-05-2012, 06:07 AM

Do you have to modify the front wheels at all? What is the off set you have on wheels? I was thinking of getting the same set of wheels for my car, but in gold color.

No modification was required for the fronts. Front and rear offset is +25. There are no other options. The best price I found with shipping was www.sonicmotor.com. Make sure you check that they will fit in the front on a stock chassis, I have no idea. You will aslo need the small diameter lug nuts.

howehot

05-06-2012, 03:22 PM

Some better picts of the fenders.

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Mounted the controler for the EFI and tranny under the glove box. The harness will tuck under the dash and into the kick panel that did house the original PCM.

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carguykeith

05-06-2012, 09:28 PM

No modification was required for the fronts. Front and rear offset is +25. There are no other options. The best price I found with shipping was www.sonicmotor.com. Make sure you check that they will fit in the front on a stock chassis, I have no idea. You will also need the small diameter lug nuts.

I'm running an 18x8.5 with a +15 offset and would prefer a little less, +25 for a stock frame would probably be too much. Not sure if you can even find it by I think perfect front wheel offset on a G-body stock frame is probably 0 with a 8.5 wide wheel (4.25 backspacing). Oh and I'm not running inner fenders so can't comment on those.

howehot

05-16-2012, 06:46 PM

I got the rear wheels back from the machine shop after they opened the hub up to 2" from the factory1.5". Pictures don't do it justice, but the look is over the top. It's easy to fit 335/30/18 with a Schwartz gbody chassis.

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I also am installing the Dakota Digital VHX gauge cluster. Little intimidating cutting into the original harness, but it was very simple and everything I can test, works. The control box will be mounted above the center air ducts.

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BLWN1

05-16-2012, 06:59 PM

Id do about anything for that setup... man Im jealous!!!! Wish I had my OT back...

SRD art

05-17-2012, 06:13 AM

Frame/ suspension looks awesome, fat meats look fantastic, and that gauge pod looks incredible! All excellent!!

howehot

05-20-2012, 07:02 PM

Finish modifying the filler neck on the fuel tank. This is one of two mods that needs to be done for the Schwartz chassis. The other is the removal of the spare tire well. Schwartz will suply the needed pieces.
I choose to do the filler neck a liitle different than their design since I started with a new tank and filler neck that allowed welding and cutting. Monday i'll get it sweated to the tank.

Jon from GSI interiors has shipped the door panels and rear seat cover. With that and the engine returning this week, the Wife and Daughter leaving for Georgia on Friday, Josh and I should make alot of progress next weekend.

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Schwartz Performance

05-22-2012, 06:09 AM

Looks great Dan! We can't wait to see the car at some events this summer!

SicMonte

05-22-2012, 06:32 AM

looking really good!!!!!!!!

Samckitt

05-22-2012, 10:35 AM

I gotta admit, those gauges do look pretty cool. But I still want backlit & look stock.

woody80z28

05-23-2012, 12:04 PM

Very nice. Inspiration for me to get cracking! Thank you.

howehot

05-23-2012, 06:57 PM

One of those round hole, square peg days.
Dan

howehot

05-27-2012, 04:36 PM

Motor and trans are in. Header issue remain. Thinking I'll purchase s set. Of pacesetters and modify the tubes to clear the steering shaft.

Sit pretty low without preload on the coils. Ride height will be a little higher. Front clip will need to be on to determine that.

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FRENCHBLUE72

05-28-2012, 02:09 PM

Sweet monte....

SicMonte

05-30-2012, 09:42 AM

Looking good!!!!!

What are you running for a trans cooler?? Curious about how you are running your lines.

howehot

05-30-2012, 04:38 PM

Looking good!!!!!

What are you running for a trans cooler?? Curious about how you are running your lines.

Using the cooler in the radiator for now and will see what this does. If it proves inadequate, we'll come up with plan B. Running hard lines to the core support then adapting to the disconnects on the DeWitt radiator. I also have a temp gauge I plan to install. Funny you ask this as that is what I am currently working on while I wait on headers and the tubing to modify them to fit the steering shaft. If you have suggestions I'll take any.

Dan

howehot

06-02-2012, 08:05 PM

Pacesetter headers arrive. What do you do went you get something new, cut it up and modify it. Needed to clear the steering shaft and after a couple tries with shorty units, this was my final approach. Once again, no idea of what I'm doing, they didn't turn out to bad. The gaps are tighter than the pictures show, the tubes are just set in. I'll have them tig welded on Monday in town.

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Need to decide on 2.5 or 3" exhaust. Also for mufflers I'm leaning towards the moroso spiral flow. suggestion? Space is limited and room for a large mufflers are out. A new drive shaft will be ordered this week.
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jgpclone

06-02-2012, 10:00 PM

bad ass mcss looks super nice man with that color

howehot

06-07-2012, 06:51 PM

Headers are done. Got my new driveshaft today and started the exhaust. I think the worst is done. Mocked up back to the H-pipe.

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howehot

06-08-2012, 07:09 PM

Finished the exhaust. Another first time project that turned out pretty good. Hoping these will be making some noise next week.

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howehot

06-08-2012, 07:10 PM

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CruizinKev

06-10-2012, 06:57 AM

oh sweet! looks good! :twothumbs

Samckitt

06-11-2012, 05:14 AM

No room to go over the rear axle like stock?

howehot

06-11-2012, 11:04 AM

No room to go over the rear axle like stock?

No room with the narrowed frame rails, tiranglulated 4 link and coilovers. I wouldn't gain any ground clearance anyway. At full droop, the axle is 1/2" from the pipes and the lower shock mount is still lower than the pipes

SSninja

06-11-2012, 11:17 AM

Sure makes it easy to drop the exhaust if need be!

Disconnect it from the header collectors and remove a few hangers?

howehot

06-15-2012, 05:33 AM

howehot

06-15-2012, 07:11 PM

Mocked up the serpentine system tonight. Purchased this from Schwartz Performance. Would have fully installed it but NAPA sold me a harmonic balancer install tool that would not reach the threads in the crank. Will need to locate one tomorrow. Hope to hear it run this weekend.

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SRD art

06-16-2012, 07:21 AM

Friend of mine called last night and congradulated me on getting an atricle of the build at LSXTV.com. Told him I never heard of it so I looked it up. Pretty cool

http://www.lsxtv.com/news/all-purpose-g-body-is-a-street-brawler/

Everything's looking great! That motor looks fantastic!

Congrats on the article...shouldn't they have asked your permission or something first though? They could have at least told you your car was featured. That sort of stuff bugs me a little I guess...

howehot

06-16-2012, 08:28 PM

You would think they would ask. Looks like the info was pulled from this site. I really don't mind. I want to get this chassis out there for Schwartz. They have been super to work with and have bent over backwards to help me due to my lack of experience with a build like this. Looking back, the thought of a chassis was easy, never imagined it would involve every aspect of this Monte Carlo.

Hoped to hear it tonite, but, those damn buts, an o ring was missing on #2 injector. Made a great sprinkler. Need to fnd one tommorow and then maybe. I hope we entered the right fuel and injector calibrations on the FAST EFI. Some of the simple inputs aren't so simple for simple minded people as myself. Good thing Josh is a math wizard.

SRD art

06-16-2012, 08:37 PM

Dang! Sorry to hear about the o-ring. Please post a video of start up! I just posted mine in the multimedia thread, it's been a long haul getting to that point and it felt great to hear the motor fire. Good luck with yours!

"Some of the simple [things] aren't so simple for simple minded people as myself."

Lol! Glad I'm not the only one that feels this way... :)

howehot

06-17-2012, 12:12 PM

IT IS ALIVE. what a relief to finally hear it run. Heater core is shot. Pulled it and will get another first of the week. Now for the front clip.

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howehot

06-17-2012, 07:06 PM

It's been a long two days. Josh and I got the LS1 fired and mounted the fenders and nose. Wish I knew how much lower this is sitting vs stock. Seems much lower.

The LS1 sound angry. Can't wait to drive it. Need to call FAST for some calibration questions. I would post a video but the previous post didn't work. How do I do this with photobucket?

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CruizinKev

06-17-2012, 08:46 PM

WOW looks great back on the ground! I really can't wait to see videos! good job!! :cheers: :twothumbs

SRD art

06-18-2012, 07:23 AM

Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice! My car looks like a Redneck mobile compared to that. Lookin' great!

smokin86monte

06-20-2012, 06:58 AM

Looking greAT!! lookin foward to see pics outside

Pyrofenix

06-22-2012, 08:30 PM

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What is this color? It is beautiful and I've been looking for the right shade of blue for my malibu wagon.

howehot

06-23-2012, 10:35 AM

What is this color? It is beautiful and I've been looking for the right shade of blue for my malibu wagon.

Factory 1984 Monte Carlo SS med. blue metallic.

bonecrrusher

06-23-2012, 11:16 AM

Just read the entire thread - this car is awesome!

SS PUNISHER

06-23-2012, 01:37 PM

Man those cheap wheels look superb! Looks great!

howehot

06-23-2012, 05:44 PM

Moved under its own power today for a photo op. Work to do yet but getting closer.

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CruizinKev

06-26-2012, 08:51 AM

looks great!!!! :cheers:

instro84

06-26-2012, 08:07 PM

man stance is spot on. nice car

howehot

07-01-2012, 06:46 PM

Great weekend. Put the first miles on it yesterday, installed the rear seat covers and Josh did the final buffing today.

Drove great. Need to adjust the Ridetechs. Had some front tire rub bedding the brakes. Very quick and precise steering, great power and firm shifts. The FAST EFI is still learning and adjusting itself. Runs better every time we start it. Still unsure on the timing settings for the XIM.

Rear seat covers turned out great by my neighbor. Ordered matching material from Procar to match the fronts. GSI should take note. They didnt check the color. Made the inerior the wrong shade, had me return it, canceled the order on me and charged me $170 restock fees. Buyer beware of GSI interiors. Frames mods for the tubbing worked great.

This build has far exceeded my expectations. Having never done this much to a car, this has turned out great. Can't thank Jeff and Dale Schwartz and their staff for the opportunity. To have this chassis is a dream. I hope I can represent them well and that they are satisfied with the end result for their business. If your building a G body you must consider this chassis. It may be pricey but look what you get that you will never have with a stock one. Come by their open house on Saturday and check it out.

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CruizinKev

07-03-2012, 12:52 AM

oh WOW NICE!!!! :twothumbs

howehot

07-06-2012, 03:09 PM

Few picts under the hood. Waiting on the A/C man the will mount the XIM.

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Tony_SS

07-07-2012, 06:16 AM

Looking great!

frankenstang

07-07-2012, 02:09 PM

Saw the car today at Jeff's open house. It looks really good! Nice work guys, hope the A/C gets installed soon, almost too late now to do it!!

howehot

07-07-2012, 06:14 PM

Saw the car today at Jeff's open house. It looks really good! Nice work guys, hope the A/C gets installed soon, almost too late now to do it!!

Thanks for the compliment. Josh said he talk to you. Jeff had a real good turnout and they make me feel at home everytime I am there. Great group of people.

Your Mustang is pretty killer also.

howehot

07-08-2012, 06:15 PM

Put about 60 miles on her today. Drives like a dream. Ride is firm but very comfortable. Steering is super quick and precise.No hiccups. took it pretty easy but the LS1 is ready for more. Talked my Dad into a ride. It was alot more refined than he expected and he was all smiles with the power. Shook his head when I told him there was more. First autocross will be next Sunday, For the car and myself. I believe the car is more ready than I.

howehot

07-12-2012, 06:19 PM

AC was finished today. Another part of this build that required parts to be reordered. A new accumulator was defective and needed to be replaced so it took an extra day. Ready for a local cruise of NE Iowa on Saturday and our first autocross on Sunday.

SRD art

07-12-2012, 09:35 PM

Awesome, congrats! Please video the track time!

454bug

07-13-2012, 03:56 AM

Man, this car is SWEET!!! :1st:

Great execution of all phases. I look forward to seeing video of it in action! :drive:

howehot

07-15-2012, 06:55 PM

Hit the autocross today for the first time. WOW! Still have the smile.

The monte work great, driver not so much. Had 6 runs and work into it. Local expert rode with me on the first run and was very impressed the the Monte at the end of the day. Could not believe the attitude and potential of the chassis. He said there was 4-6 seconds left in it which would put it up near the faster cars there. A lot of advice was thrown my way on where and how to get that time back.

Let's see if this link works.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAjy03CSn2w&feature=youtube_gdata

SRD art

07-15-2012, 07:28 PM

Yah, I'll spank you with the wagon, j/k, lol!! Lookin' sweet! More, more...

howehot

07-15-2012, 07:37 PM

My video operator had a bad habit of not watching the view finder. This is the best of 4 videos taken. Josh tried from the passenger seat and its pretty much clouds and dash as he trying to hold himself in the seat. My 11 year old daughter loved the ride.

Samckitt

07-16-2012, 05:09 AM

Do you remember what radiator hoses you used?

howehot

07-16-2012, 06:13 AM

Do you remember what radiator hoses you used?

Bottom is the factory Monte hose trimmed to fit. Upper is a NAPA 8301

Number1

07-17-2012, 08:56 AM

Barrrf

07-17-2012, 09:14 AM

Man that is an awesome looking car! Im a little jealous of your chassis.

Are those manual brakes? I dont see a booster.......

howehot

07-17-2012, 10:01 AM

Love the Monte, Howe. But I was wondering are you able to use your cruise control still with the fast ecm because I am planning on doing my ls swap over the winter just stacking parts right now. I plan on driving this car everywhere

I don't know if it can. I did not hook it up and would also like to but haven't check into it. As easy as the car is to drive it may not be needed. It is very easy to maintain a cruise speed with zero creep.

If you do the FAST setup, contact Brian Pitcher at COMP. He knows this system and has been VERY helpful with the tuning. He set me up with the transplant kit, cam, and convertor. I wouldn't waste my time talking to anyone else.

Dan

howehot

07-17-2012, 10:03 AM

Man that is an awesome looking car! Im a little jealous of your chassis.

Are those manual brakes? I dont see a booster.......

Brakes are manual with a 1970 corvette manual master cylinder. $23.00 and works great. Downfall, it is an anchor, very heavy.

Dan

howehot

07-17-2012, 10:06 AM

How stiff is your G body chassis. I was adjusting the rear shocks and took this picture. All the weight is on the jackstand. A Schwartz G Machine chassis will make you stiff, in more ways than one!

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Samckitt

07-17-2012, 12:07 PM

I went to the Dewitt's website looking for the radiator you have with no luck. It's not listed yet. I emailed them asking for information, no reply yet.

howehot

07-17-2012, 01:57 PM

I went to the Dewitt's website looking for the radiator you have with no luck. It's not listed yet. I emailed them asking for information, no reply yet.

Try this. Mitch. 810-923-1608. He was very easy to work with.

howehot

07-19-2012, 05:27 PM

We're in st. Paul at the Car Craft Nationals. Car is running great and now we shall play! Stop by and say hi.

howehot

07-20-2012, 07:36 PM

Fantastic day in St Paul. Great times in the autocross for a rookie and then picked for a photo shoot. What an honor. This is the sprinkles on top of the cake for this build. A huge thanks to Jeff and Dale Schwartz for this chassis and Josh for the paint that has drawn so much attention to this car. Previous years people looked as they walked by, now they stop, look, and take pictures. Most don't notice the chassis until its pointed out.

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SS PUNISHER

07-20-2012, 07:59 PM

Beautiful!!!

TomT

07-21-2012, 03:22 AM

Cool Monte!

CruizinKev

07-21-2012, 10:55 AM

looks awesome!!! :yeah: :twothumbs

howehot

07-21-2012, 04:52 PM

Some video of today's action. Launch box is 150' then stop in a box. Best time 3.09

Autocross makes people take notice that this is not your average g body. Many many questions on suspension mods and the looks when they see the chassis is priceless. Josh has been offered several cars to paint for free, none accepted by him. Times are very respectable, best of 23.11. Jimi Day with his AMX ran in the mid 22's last I seen.

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howehot

07-21-2012, 05:21 PM

How do I post video from photbucket? Worked on montecarloss.

Samckitt

07-21-2012, 06:56 PM

Can't wait to see the photoshoot.

howehot

07-22-2012, 06:38 PM

Tied for second and finished third in the Real Street Eliminator shoot out by Car Craft in the late model class. Placed 1st in the launch box, and third in the autocross. Dyno run was cut short due to a very lean condition at full throttle. Bigger injectors are needed. Thanks to Kevin from FAST for help to decipher the issues with the tune and injector sizing.

Thank you to the staff of Car Craft for the wonderful weekend and the treatment we received. I never expected to compete as well as I did and your encouragement and support ment more than you know.

chumscustoms

07-24-2012, 02:58 PM

the car looked great at the summer nationals.
congrats on this build

DaleBird82

07-24-2012, 03:15 PM

GeoffP

07-24-2012, 03:27 PM

Just went through the whole thread - very cool build!

DaleBird82

07-24-2012, 03:38 PM

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151956472855290&notif_t=like

howehot

07-24-2012, 04:41 PM

Nice job, Dan! It was great seeing the car out there and running.
I have pictures and videos I'll be sending you on a dvd. I am currently uploading an autocross vid to our facebook so check it out. Sure was a crowd pleaser!

Thanks Dale. We had an amazing time. We need to get together again so you can take a spin. Time just got away from us. This chassis is amazing. Fantastic ride on the street and handle like a slot car.

howehot

07-29-2012, 06:29 PM

More seat time today. Ran in the wet, dry, and in between. Had a moment during the in between. Built this car to drive it and this is what I'm doing. Rain or shine. We turned 400 miles going to a cruise in Friday and then adjust the Ridetechs and autocross on Sunday.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQNm_67f1Dg&feature=plcp
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SickSpeedMonte

07-30-2012, 09:22 AM

Awesome! This really motivates me to keep pushing on!

mc84_zz4

07-30-2012, 03:57 PM

I love this one...
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It looks almost like mine, except with an extra foot of tire... Nice job!
:twothumbs:

howehot

08-03-2012, 06:17 AM

I'm once again in way over my head, but this will be a fantastic event to attend. Jeff Schwartz set me up to attend the Sandhills Open Road Challenge at Arnold, NE Aug 8-11. I've entered the 90 mph class since I have ZERO experience with this rally style event and also safety equipment set the limit to the 95 mph class. Top speed allowed will be 120 mph. Josh will be the navigator. A big thanks to Jimi Day for letting me in. Met him at Car Craft and had a great conversation with him.

A good friend of mine saw coverage of this event on Speed Channel last spring and called me saying 'this is what you need to do with your Monte. When I contacted him Tuedays telling him of the offer he flipped. To bad he was booked and couldn't navigate.

SicMonte

08-03-2012, 06:21 AM

You have no idea how lucky and fortunate you are to be in that event...I'm so jealous right now it's sick.

parsonsj

08-03-2012, 06:24 AM

Love this car! Good luck at Sand Hills.

howehot

08-03-2012, 06:25 AM

OH and by the way. This is another reason to purchase that G-machine chassis for your ride from Jeff. Not only do you get a world class product, but the service and oppurtunies after the sale are TOP NOTCH!!!!

Dan

howehot

08-03-2012, 06:33 AM

You have no idea how lucky and fortunate you are to be in that event...I'm so jealous right now it's sick.

I just hope that fire and cliff you have in your signature aren't in my future. They have limited the speed this year do to the draught and high risk of fire LOL

Dan

randywyatt2000

08-05-2012, 09:33 PM

let me know if you ever in mason city iowa

howehot

08-06-2012, 09:44 AM

let me know if you ever in mason city iowa

Was in Clear Lake Friday and Saturday for the cruise and show.

howehot

08-12-2012, 06:00 PM

What a weekend in Arnold, NE. Ran the 1/2 mile and the Optima 91 mph class in the Sandhills Open Road Challenge. We averaged 92, which is not a good thing, but had a great time. This area opens their arms and runs a fantastic event. To play in the same sandbox with the top pro touring drivers and cars it was an honor indeed.

The highlight was Saturday night at the awards ceremony when all of the hard work was rewarded with Optima's pick for the Ultimate Street Car in Vegas. This still seems like a dream. Thank you Optima for the invite and we'll see you in Vegas.

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howehot

08-30-2012, 05:09 PM

GNon18s

08-30-2012, 06:47 PM

My Grand National weighs 3,220 with drag wheels. My drag wheels were @ 100lbs lighter than my 18's street wheels. I dont remember the details or front/rear bias. Full car other than a/c delete. Id say 3,400 is about as good as it gets with a "pro-touring" G-body with a/c.

howehot

09-09-2012, 06:36 PM

Great weekend at LS Fest. Got as much seat time at the autocross I could. Ran respectable times for a good car and rookie driver. Thanks for all the tips and suggestions on driving line and chassis setup.

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Schwartz Performance

09-14-2012, 11:37 AM

Here's a rough video of one of Dan's AutoX runs from LS Fest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMdS9cNECQA&feature=share&list=UUOyZ43wAQcKUH2iMqKBVzgQ

SS PUNISHER

09-15-2012, 03:04 PM

:twothumbsLooks killer!
I agree with the comment on youtube though, needs a stick...

Pyrofenix

09-26-2012, 06:14 PM

Just saw a photo of your car in Car Craft this month. Love the car!

howehot

09-26-2012, 07:00 PM

Just saw a photo of your car in Car Craft this month. Love the car!

Thanks for the compliment. Mailman must be reading mine.

Dan

howehot

09-26-2012, 07:26 PM

Just ordered our SEMA Pro-Touring dinner tickets. This will be an AWESOME week.

Hopefully I can finish up fall lawn applications this week. Plan is to relocate the battery to the trunk, install an auxiliary transmission cooler, and an oil accumulator. Autocross school this Saturday and event on Sunday. Another autocross on October 7.

Thanks again OPTIMA for the invite to OUSCI.

SRD art

09-27-2012, 03:58 AM

Finally put the Monte on a set of scale. In review it has a Schwartz G- machine chassis, LS1/4L60E, Procar front seats, 275/35/18 and 335/30/18 on XXR rims. No passengers, full fuel tank. Here is what we discovered,

3407 lbs 43.8 rear. 56.2% front

How does this compare to other G bodies?

Yikes! People ask me all the time what my wagon weighs, I just tell them I guess around 3600. Since the Schwartz chassis drops weight and you've got some light weight stuff on there my car must be a tank. With the addition of the roll cage, boxing my frame and adding all the support braces, I'm guessing I ADDED 200-300lbs. I have Mazda production front seats, cast 17x9.5 wheels, and an iron small block Chevy too. Maybe my car is closer to 3800, lol! :injured:

Congrats on the mag dealio! That's my dream, to have a car featured, so I say that's way cool for you!

jeff s

09-27-2012, 09:21 AM

More Pics from LS Fest on PHR's site
http://www.popularhotrodding.com/events/1209phr_2012_holley_ls_fest/photo_43.html

howehot

09-27-2012, 06:14 PM

Notified today that Optima is having TOPPS, the baseball card people, make trading cards of each OUSCI participant. They will receive 200 cards of their car to hand out at SEMA. This deal just keeps getting better and better.

coolwelder62

09-27-2012, 06:25 PM

Awesome car.Congrat's on OUSCI.

howehot

09-27-2012, 06:25 PM

December CarCraft coverage of CarCraft Summer Nationals included a picture of the Monte.

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instro84

09-27-2012, 06:43 PM

nice, have to pick up a copy.

howehot

10-13-2012, 05:40 PM

With OUSCI approaching quickly it's time for some upgrades and detailing. Got a set of fuel rail covers to hide all the wires for the FAST EFI. Looks much cleaner, now for a trip to the bone yard for the oil fill neck. I will also finally make a mount for the XIM box, install trans cooler with fan to compliment the Derale pan, and an oil accumulator. Not sure if the accumulator is needed but want the insurance on the road course. May also relocate the Optima yellow top to the trunk. I have a kit to do this but not sure if I want to risk any electrical gremlins.

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howehot

10-14-2012, 01:13 PM

Located the accumulator behind the front bumper. This is plumbed to the oil filter housing. Trans cooler is in front of the left front tire. Since I added weight to the front I will move the battery to the trunk. Hopefully I there are no leaks once I fire it up.

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Motor_Mouth

10-16-2012, 08:37 AM

Just read the entire build thread. Awesome! Great work.

Also, I just saw it in Car Craft! (p65, Dec 2012 Issue if you haven't seen it yet)

BulldawgMusclecars

10-16-2012, 03:10 PM

It was great meeting you at LS Fest, Dan! I know you'll be at Optima, but will you be at the SEMA show that week? If so I'll keep an eye open for you.

howehot

10-16-2012, 04:43 PM

It was great meeting you at LS Fest, Dan! I know you'll be at Optima, but will you be at the SEMA show that week? If so I'll keep an eye open for you.

We'll be at SEMA all week. Car needs to be there Monday the 29 for the Optima display. I'll send you a pm with my cell number. Wait, maybe you want that eye open so you can avoid me. LOL

howehot

10-18-2012, 02:17 PM

My wonderful wife had some shirts made for SEMA and OUSCI. She did this with the marketing director at her work. They are sweet, almost as much as my wife.

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howehot

10-25-2012, 07:05 PM

Install a set of engine covers. Helps hide the maze of wires. Used polished stainless and added a vinyl graphic to cover the Corvette logo. $8.00 for this little trick.

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Same sign shop made this display board.

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howehot

11-12-2012, 07:09 PM

January Car Craft has coverage of the Real Street Eliminator from the Summer Nationals in St. Paul.

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SickSpeedMonte

11-13-2012, 04:11 AM

Congrats! Looking good as usual.

SRD art

11-13-2012, 08:29 AM

Woot woot! I saw that in the mag and said, hey I know that guy! ;) Some day you'll have to autograph my fan shroud, lol! Congrats.

howehot

11-13-2012, 12:11 PM

Woot woot! I saw that in the mag and said, hey I know that guy! ;) Some day you'll have to autograph my fan shroud, lol! Congrats.

We'll be down in mid February. I'll bring a sharpie. lol

SRD art

11-13-2012, 06:11 PM

We'll be down in mid February. I'll bring a sharpie. lol

No need, I've got one already ready to go. ;) You bringing the Monte? (the correct answer here would be "Yes!")

howehot

11-13-2012, 07:41 PM

No need, I've got one already ready to go. ;) You bringing the Monte? (the correct answer here would be "Yes!")

Yes, will be bringing the Monte. Depending on the weather I may trailer to a friends in Kentucky and then continue to Florida. We will be stopping on the way through.

monteboy84

11-14-2012, 12:18 PM

I read somewhere in this thread that you were considering Spiral Flow Mufflers? I couldn't find confirmation of that, but that's what it looked like from your pictures. Just a heads-up on those, there are a lot of cases of guys losing big horsepower with those mufflers versus something more conventional. You may want to look into getting something different.

That being said, this car is phenomenal, I only hope my Monte performs even half as well when I'm all done with it.

-matt

howehot

11-16-2012, 06:58 PM

howehot

11-16-2012, 07:07 PM

The Monte made the cover of January Popular Hot Rodding. This is the 3rd time it's made its way in a national publication. Must have done something right. Josh is on cloud 23, way above 9, and he has the right to be with the paint job he did.

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howehot

01-04-2013, 04:19 PM

First winter update is almost complete. I need to order a toggle switch to match the other two, this one will activate the paddle shifters, the reassemble the lower dash. Can't wait to try these.

Grant wheel, hub adaptor, and TCI paddle shifter kit.

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Stock wheel

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New Grant wheel with Bowtie horn button

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Paddle shifters are very easy to reach without stretching for them. Should be the cats a..!

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GNon18s

01-04-2013, 04:49 PM

I didnt realize this was an automatic. Where you manually shifting with your previous shifter (looks like maybe a B&M Megashifter)? ..Or did you just leave it in drive and let it shift itself?

howehot

01-04-2013, 05:16 PM

Tranny is a 4L60e with a TCI 3200 stall and TCU. Shifter is an B&M Megeshifter that was in the car with the 200R4.

On the auto cross I would start in 1st then shift to 2nd and leave it. The TCI TCU will not allow the tranny to down shift to first when lock in second gear. Likewise when starting with the shifter in second gear it also locks out first. This is use to control wheel spin like the factory PCM. With the new paddle shifters a toggle switch will activate them and the tranny will stay in that gear until its told to shift or you come to a complete stop which will put it into first. Should allow quicker exits on a tight autocross cross allowing for a 2-1-2 shift without removing my hands from the wheel. Plus it has wow factor.

One day all this will be replaced with a manual, unless this combo proves to be bulletproof. I have had zero heat issues with the auto and it does perform very well with very firm shifts and great response.

howehot

01-11-2013, 04:17 PM

Received my headers back from Performance Coatings today. Went with the black ceramic finish. They look great and look forward to the cooler underhood temps. Didn't have time to do this last spring since fabbing up the headers was one of the last hurdles I had to get it on the road.

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slammedwhitec5vert

01-12-2013, 03:40 AM

Awesome build just checked out the whole thread. Love the big meats on the back of the Monte!!!!

silvermonte

02-04-2013, 09:49 PM

I just got my april issue of chevy high performance and they took a pic of you during the auto-x at the Holley LS fest, I figured I would give ya a heads up if you didnt already know,its on page 46.

howehot

02-07-2013, 05:41 PM

I just got my april issue of chevy high performance and they took a pic of you during the auto-x at the Holley LS fest, I figured I would give ya a heads up if you didnt already know,its on page 46.

Thanks, got it Saturday.

howehot

02-07-2013, 05:59 PM

I built it to drive. After trailering to friends in Elkton, Ky, I left this a.m. for central Florida. Stopped at Bulldawg Musclecars in Acworth, GA and finally meet Ben, SDArt. He has work to do,but his Olds wagon is going to be pretty cool. Hired him to do a rendering of the El Camino.

Drove in about 5 hours of rain, some very heavy. I will say that the BF Goodrich KDW's handled the wet very well although I did pull off a couple times and waited for it to let up. Didn't wish to push the issue.

The Schwartz Performance chassis provides a very comfortable ride with the Ridetech coilovers. On Sunday I'll adjust the shock and thrash it on the autocross in Geneva, FL with my cousin. Best of both worlds.

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howehot

02-08-2013, 12:27 PM

Not a good day.

35 miles from my aunts house in Florida, I lost oil pressure. Had it towed the remaining distance. It's now down a cylinder or two. Looking for options to get it back to the truck in Kentucky. Possibly renting a uhaul and trailer. Really sucks but we'll rebuild or replace. I had a lot of fun with this $1400 motor and transmission. I think it will cost a little bit more to replace the engine.

silvermonte

02-08-2013, 04:17 PM

Sorry to hear about the engine, when you find out what caused the problem let us know, Ive read of a few LS engines having the same issue when driven hard. At least on the bright side it did it now and not a few days before you went to Optima.

SRD art

02-08-2013, 04:21 PM

Where in FL are you? Where in KY does it need to get to? I might have an idea to get the car back to your truck...

howehot

02-08-2013, 04:39 PM

I'm in Kissimmee and need to go back to Elkton, Ky which is an hour north of Nashville.

SRD art

02-08-2013, 06:28 PM

Might sound crazy, but if you wanted to cover gas $ maybe I could come down in the wagon, you could rent a tow dolly and I could haul you back to KY. You'd have to pull the drive shaft and get a plug for the trans. I'm about 10.5 mpg towing and about 18+ empty. I'd estimate maybe about $500 in gas to get down there, haul you back to KY, then get back home to Acworth. Might be cheaper than renting a truck, trailer and gas? I could head down on the first day, stay overnight and head out early the next am. I'm seeing about 12 hours from FL to KY, and my car tows just fine at 70 mph so we could easily make it in one day, or we could stop at my place in Acworth over night and make it in two days.

When were you planning on heading back?

SicMonte

02-08-2013, 08:39 PM

howehot

02-09-2013, 01:57 PM

SRD art

02-09-2013, 03:13 PM

Sounds like a plan!

howehot

02-19-2013, 06:53 PM

Finally home with the Monte. Tomorrow I'll get it in the shop and begin the process of pulling the LS1 out and find what failed. Hopefully we can rebuild it. Worse case is a new long block. I think I need to stick with an LS1 or LS2 since the FAST kit i used is specific for it.

Nicks67GTO

02-19-2013, 11:18 PM

Hey there. I saw your car at the University Ave cruise in Waterloo/Cedar Falls, Iowa last summer. I pretty much crawled all over checking out the Schwartz setup/LS combo. Pretty nice setup you have yourself there! I was looking for "the owner" but he was nowhere to be found at the time. Anyhow, sweet ride!

howehot

02-20-2013, 06:08 PM

howehot

02-20-2013, 06:29 PM

Looks like cylinder #8 is unhappy. I'll have the engine out in the morning. Sure hope I can salvage it

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SRD art

02-20-2013, 11:09 PM

Fingers crossed, good luck...

Nicks67GTO

02-21-2013, 02:12 AM

Would be great to meet you. I'll be at the car show at the casino in May, look me up.

Sounds good. Ill be there with the GTO. See ya then.

howehot

02-21-2013, 01:54 PM

Finished pulling the engine this a.m. And then proceded to tear it down. First pulled the passenger head knowing this was where the issue was, wrong. Everything looked great, so off with the drivers head and same story. Next was the pan. Walla, #6 rod bearing. Now this is the extent of my engine ability, someone else can repair and reassemble it. As much as I would love to do it I have zero experience and don't want to pull it again in a few month because I messed up. May check into a strokes kit, now would be the time.

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chumscustoms

02-21-2013, 02:02 PM

for themoney a texas speedor equal short or long block is hard to beat for the price and quality, by the time the machine is done new parts bought, it is pinchin pennies to justify trying to rebuild a current engine, especialy if your gonna possible upgrade

SicMonte

02-21-2013, 08:34 PM

I agree with the stroker kit...might as well since it is out. Good luck with everything!

howehot

03-02-2013, 03:33 PM

Chevy High Performance has the Monte Carlo in the May issue with the OUSCI coverage. This is the sixth time it's been in print and Car Craft has yet to run the feature shot in July. Gives Josh and I a great feeling to see this exposure. Sure wonder what will be shown March 10 on SPEED as part of the OUSCI program. Make sure you tune in.

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SRD art

03-03-2013, 12:18 AM

Congrats Dan!

howehot

03-21-2013, 11:02 AM

If any luck I should have the engine back in a couple weeks. Sticking with the LS1 and stroking it to 383 or 6.3L. Stroker kit is coming from Callies. Hope to have it back in a couple weeks. This kit should create close to 600hp.

howehot

03-22-2013, 07:00 PM

Got word this week that the feature Car Craft shot in July will run in a bi-annual magazine called Car Craft Engine Swaps. It will be on bookshelves April 30. I think John said it was 7 pages.

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CodexGigas

03-23-2013, 03:01 AM

I Love those Rims, What Company makes Them?

howehot

03-23-2013, 04:18 PM

I Love those Rims, What Company makes Them?

Wheels are XXR 521

cutlass85

03-23-2013, 04:46 PM

Not sure if any body asked or if it was mentioned but just wondering if u had to do anything with the trns tunnel or floor or firewall/bulkhead for engine or trans?? Im trying to gather all info for my build in a 85 cutlass but will a lower stnce so it might be different

howehot

03-23-2013, 07:02 PM

With the Schwartz chassis the engine/transmission sit lower and rearward compared to the stock chassis with a LS swap that I have seen. I can hardly slip my hand between the intake and the firewall. No modification of the firewall or floor pan was need. I did notch the AC box because the valve cover hit. A lower stance should not make a difference.

cutlass85

03-23-2013, 09:30 PM

Okay thank you

randywyatt2000

03-25-2013, 05:22 AM

nice monte carlo ss let me know if your ever in mason city

howehot

04-30-2013, 07:16 PM

Well I finally have the LS383 back in the Monte and it fire right up. Sound great with 60 psi of oil pressure. That's 20 psi more than the LS1 had and there is no piston slap when the engine is cold. The Mahle pistons in the LS1 were quite loud until they got heat in them. Can't wait for the first drive. Snow is in the forecast for Thursday. Yes, May 2.

howehot

05-01-2013, 04:59 PM

Put 25 miles on it this a.m I can't believe how much more quite and smoother it is than the previous LS1. Maybe that's why it failed with only 5000 miles on it.

I need to adjust the timing, had a ping under load. Also with 11:1 compression I'm not sure what fuel I put in last down in Florida. I'll back the timing down and change the curve a little and see what it does. I could really feel the torque increase from the stroker kit. Overall I'm very please. I really need to put some miles on it before Heidts event next weekend.

Samckitt

05-02-2013, 09:02 AM

Was looking at the wheels you have & wondering if you are using a 5x120mm or if you found them in 5x4.75" bolt circles.

thanks

howehot

05-02-2013, 11:51 AM

Was looking at the wheels you have & wondering if you are using a 5x120mm or if you found them in 5x4.75" bolt circles.

thanks

They are 5x120.

silvermonte

05-02-2013, 03:50 PM

howehot

05-02-2013, 04:01 PM

So did you take your car out in the snow today for another test drive? I live in cedar rapids and all of my snow went up north to you, the weather is saying 2 inches tonight tho and 60 degree weather on sunday, the weather this year is unreal.

We have a couple inches now. With all the snow just west of us, Charles City had 6" this morning, I think the tes for the weekend will be adjusted downward. Are you coming to the car show Sunday in Waterloo at the casino? I'll have the Monte there.

howehot

05-02-2013, 05:50 PM

The summer issue of Engine Swap by Car Craft Magazine has a 6 page feature of the Monte Carlo. This was shot in St Paul last July. Makes Josh and I very proud to have built this car and receive so much attention. I know the Schwartz chassis helps but that is just one part of the package.

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silvermonte

05-02-2013, 06:42 PM

I didnt even know about that car show, and its to late to trade my weekend shift off to someone else. One of these days ill get to meet you and get to chit chat a bit and see your car.

howehot

06-06-2013, 04:42 AM

Had a pretty awesome weekend with Chevy High Performance magazine at Atlanta Dragway last weekend. We left Thursday afternoon and returned Monday morning on a 34 hour round trip to play with the Monte. My wife is from NW Geargia so she got some family time.

Friday night Chevy High Peformance did a photo shoot for an upcoming feature and on Saturday I won the Shootout on the Jet Hot autocross. Had a lot to do with the luck of the draw and Brian Finch throwing in the towel in the semi finals. Ran down the 1/4 mile for the first time 12.67@107mph. Poor traction and 2-3 shift.

This was the only G-body on the autocross and impressed a lot of people. The Scwhartz chassis's was working very well on a tight course.

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Rwolf15241

07-06-2013, 05:04 AM

Number1

07-06-2013, 06:24 AM

Did you guys rewire the car or keep the stock wiring in the car

howehot

07-07-2013, 03:51 AM

Great Project, I really enjoyed the write up!! Question for the expert I have a 86 Elcamino. I have been looking at wheels for a long time. I was wondering why you went with 18 x 10 + 25 offset (6.48 Back Spacing) and not the 18 x 10 + 12 offset (6 inch Back Spacing) and you also used spacers on the rear. Why not use a wider rear end?? And how far did you move your wheel tubs in?? I'm trying to decide weather to go with mini tubs. I know my wheel tubs are smaller then the Monte. Any information you can provide would be great!!!

Thanks RW

Great Car!!

XXR offers one offset on there wheels this was the reason fon the offset.
The rear spacer was used because I was not sure what wheel I was going with and this was the first chassis produced so they were unsure of the width also. We are now building an 86 El Camino and it will have a 1 1/2" wider rear end. As I type this you maybe confused on the spacer. Most of that is a hat for the full float Moser rear end. This is required for the outer splines on the axle. I added an 1 1/2" spacer to this for XXR wheels.

I added 3" to the tubs. It was a very simple process and I have room for 14.5" rubber. A stock chassis will require extensive work to fit that rubber.

Hope this helps.
Dan

howehot

07-07-2013, 03:59 AM

Did you guys rewire the car or keep the stock wiring in the car

Stock harness and removed the ECM and related harness. The FAST EFI has it own harness.

Rwolf15241

07-07-2013, 03:41 PM

Thanks Dan for the info:

Based on the wheel list they offer both, what are your plans for the Elcamino. I have a 86 I'm working on !! I'm currently buying the rest of the Suspension parts, ATX hubs, Once I finalize the rear wheels XXR or TSW and the rear width. I will order the 9 inch. I plan to order the 18x10 with 6" BS, Frame notch needed and mini tubs !!!!

XXR 521 Wheels 18x10 Gloss Black 5-114.3 5-120 +12
XXR 521 Wheels 18x10 Gloss Black 5-114.3 5-120 +25

On My IMSA Monsa, I had a Ford 9 inch Floater with a 4 link, and a watts link to control movement , & Stock Cap Products Front Suspension

howehot

07-08-2013, 04:06 AM

The El Camino is at Schwartz Performance now getting a chassis. It will have LS power, manual trans I hope, and SS nose.

Rwolf15241

07-08-2013, 01:21 PM

Sounds Great Dan, I had the SS nose, I went with the IROC Look!! Any Specs on the wheels & tires??

howehot

07-08-2013, 06:25 PM

Sounds Great Dan, I had the SS nose, I went with the IROC Look!! Any Specs on the wheels & tires??

Thinking the same XXR wheel with the grey center and BF Goodrich Rivals. 275/30/18 fronts and 335/30/18 rear

Do you still have the SS nose and if so do you wish to part with it?

howehot

07-08-2013, 06:58 PM

Had a great day at the GoodGuys Heartland Nationals in Des Moines. Ended up winning the Super Sunday autocross. My winning time would have placed me 4th in the street machine class on Saturday. Very happy with the performance and the power that Jesse from West Bend Dyno Tuning found.

The Schwartz Performance chassis, Ridetech shocks, Wilwood brakes and BF Goodrich KDW's are working great and the loose nut behind the wheel is slowly improving.

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