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Rileys68Camaro
07-14-2005, 08:13 PM
Has anyone used there crossmembers? I'm looking to get one for the 700R4 in my 68 Camaro.


Also, what should I look to spend to get a 4L60E or 4L80E in and working in my car? Used is fine. Wire harness and such, flexplate? Starter?

Thanks!

Can't decide if I want to spend the money and upgrade auto's or wait and get a 5/6 speed manual. That paddle shifter has got me thinking....maybe cheaper to go with an auto.

myclone
07-14-2005, 10:58 PM
Also, what should I look to spend to get a 4L60E or 4L80E in and working in my car? Used is fine. Wire harness and such, flexplate? Starter.

Youll need a flex plate, torque converter, trans, and a control for the trans unless you go non eletronic/full manual. I have no idea what a cross member will cost but some shopping on the net should turn up all the other stuff youll need.

130fe
07-15-2005, 04:51 AM
I have their crossmember and have had no problems with it. I got mine 3 years ago or so and it bolted right in. Hope this helps you.

shanekennedy
07-15-2005, 05:17 AM
you can get a new 4l60e w/o controller for less than a nice reworked 700r4

seems like i read there were issue fitting a 4l80e because of its larger size. don't know that for a fact though.

there also a 4l65e

jy211
07-15-2005, 05:59 AM
I got one for a 700 and had to add and subtract some material from it to get it to fit correctly....

Steve Chryssos
07-15-2005, 09:33 AM
I'm glad to see that you are interested in our paddle shifter. Electronic overdrive conversion is substantially less expensive than a six speed manual conversion--but still a lot of $$$.
-Full T56 conversion for an automatic car (i.e. TH350) runs about $4500-$5000 and up.
-While that same TH350 car can be upgraded to a bad ass pro-touring electronic, manumatic, paddle shifted car for about $3000-$3400 as follows:
1) Stage 1 4L60E and converter: $1350 (sourced from this website: PATC (http://www.transmissioncenter.net/StockTransShip.htm#GM%20Transmissions) )
2) TCI T-Com Trans Controller & harness: $659.95 TCU and TPS adapter from Jegs (http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=23374&prmenbr=361)
3) TPS Sensor adapter (if carbureted): $200 (subtract if fuel injected)
4) Crossmember: $150 (Bowtie Overdrives)
5) SFI Flexplate $85 (Jeg's)
6) Modify (Shorten) Driveshaft $250 (local)
7) Paddle Shifter brushed Finish (Jegs) $539.99 The Shrifter from Jeg's (http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=479224&prmenbr=361)
Total with controller and paddle shifter $3234.94
If fuel injected subtract $200 as you will splice into existing TPS. If more than 450HP-500HP FWHP expect to add about $300 for additional trans mods.
Feel free to call or email if you have any questions
/Steevo


Edit: p.s. I did reuse my TH350 crossmember. I just chopped the ends off (narrowed) and redrilled. But I have an ARDF (pre-Wayne Due style) clip, so I'm not sure how that will translate to your car if equipped with a stock clip.

Rileys68Camaro
07-15-2005, 07:41 PM
Currently, I have a 700R4 behide a 350. But it has a 400 crossmember and sits way too low.

So before spending money I'll have to spend again later, I wanted to make sure.

Are the flexplates the same? How much longer is the 4L60E than the 700R4?

Thanks!

myclone
07-15-2005, 08:18 PM
Are the flexplates the same?

If you have a 700R4 now then it will work with a 60E.


How much longer is the 4L60E than the 700R4?

Thanks!

Theyre the same trans (generally speaking) so theyre the same length.

700R4=4L60
4L60E=Electronically controlled 4L60

73z-6sp
07-20-2005, 10:50 PM
How about the Bowtie Overdrive trannies? Im looking to buy a 700r4 set-up from them unless someone has bad feedback. It looks like I can get the stage 2 trans, crossmember, TV set-up and torque converter for around 1800. Doesnt seem too bad. Any opinions?

camcojb
07-21-2005, 06:51 AM
Has anyone used there crossmembers? I'm looking to get one for the 700R4 in my 68 Camaro.


Also, what should I look to spend to get a 4L60E or 4L80E in and working in my car? Used is fine. Wire harness and such, flexplate? Starter?

Thanks!

Can't decide if I want to spend the money and upgrade auto's or wait and get a 5/6 speed manual. That paddle shifter has got me thinking....maybe cheaper to go with an auto.

Don't use their 4L80E crossmember; about 8" off from fitting! Apparently they think the 4L80E and 4L60E use the same crossmember. I tried to explain that the 80 has the mount on the very end of the trans, at least 7-8" further back. They just said to return it (I eat the freight) but they still will continue to sell them for the 80E's.

Jody

alky
07-25-2005, 02:24 AM
Jody,
What are you using now for a 4L80e crossmember? I've been looking for a bolt in crossmember for a 4L80e in to my 1969 camaro.

Denny

Mike72ss
07-25-2005, 10:00 AM
I have a Bowtie overdrive 700r4 crossmember and also had to modify it, by extending one side to fit. The center support was not welded in the center correctly. I called them and they basically blew me off, so I just modified it myself.

Mike


I got one for a 700 and had to add and subtract some material from it to get it to fit correctly....

zbugger
07-25-2005, 12:26 PM
I had help from someone here to build my own crossmember for my 200-4R I got from them. The trans should be fine, but the install sucked.

silver69
08-08-2005, 01:28 PM
Jody, I used a turbo 400 crossmember in my 69 camaro just moved it back and did some cutting on the ends 4l80e trans


Joe