Prodigy Paint Mock Up

[ProdigyCustoms]

Well, We decided to put some single stage Urethane on Prodigy for a final "primer". We like to put a couple coats of shinny single stage on blacks and other dark colors to get a look see and find any imperfections the old man here can't feel. We will then block this and base it with a light coat of base to set the color, then pile on the clear.

Anyway, as with everything it seems, a primer coat of black turned into laying out the stripes to verify the layout, and color. Then throw a few parts on it and here you have it. Please ignore the crocked loose taillights and such, most everything is just zip tied in.

I have to thank Bill for the use of his wheels / Tires, we will be using the same size 345 rears, but 2" wider 295 fronts, and Forgeline SP3Ps.

Personally I love the hood, but I REALLY love the way it looks from the rear.

[Bill Howell]

I hate to be the first to post, but damn, that looks good. I also like the rear shot. Those exhaust tips are killer.
The wheels do look dead on as far as fit goes. I can not wait to see the SP3Ps on it.

PS. You could have posted one picture of that old frame you painted up too-LOL

[F70t/a]

That looks really really good. The 20's don't look out of place.Good thing it will have a back seat for all the girls you son will be picking up :jump:

[Steve68]

Cool, Cool,Cool!!! looks good, Can I have the black primered car in the back ground??????LOL

[ProdigyCustoms]

PS. You could have posted one picture of that old frame you painted up too-LOL

If I could get the last couple Global West pieces, I would post a pic of the rolling frame. Arg!

[parsonsj]

Two words:

suh weet!!!

jp

[c.schulz]

Looking fantastic Frank!!! Love the hood,the exhaust tips and the wheel setting looks great.Just one question? Why does the rear spoiler have a reverse bow(sag)to it??Should it have a similar crown as the deck lid?

[YoungGun]

That looks awesome!! And that is technically a primer coat?? Cant wait to see how that comes out...love the exhaust setup!

Tim

[DarkBuddha]

I have to admit that I've been thinking that PT Camaros are all played out, but that one just made me drop my mouse and litterly say "damn" out loud. :hail:

[Bill Howell]

I have to admit that I've been thinking that PT Camaros are all played out, but that one just made me drop my mouse and litterly say "damn" out loud. :hail:

Just wait til you see the little surprize at next year's power tour. :ssst:

[MuscleRodz]

THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!!!! For posting the dead on side view. It gives me a real good idea what my 345 19's will look like. That is awesome looking Frank! Tell junior he is doing s fine job.

Mike

[ProdigyCustoms]

Looking fantastic Frank!!! Love the hood,the exhaust tips and the wheel setting looks great.Just one question? Why does the rear spoiler have a reverse bow(sag)to it??Should it have a similar crown as the deck lid?

The spoiler is a piece of ****. The car will sit so low that no one will ever see it all they'll see is the top. But if you know how to fix it please do tell, LOL.

[68protouring454]

looks killer, nice work, bet that has got mike pumped, can't wait to see it done
jake

[steemin]

Frank,
WOW!!!
That is a killer car!
I agree the view from the rear is awesome.
Everything works so well together.
Great job,
Scott

[67Sally]

WOW. It has come a long way since I saw it in January. Good job!!!
W.

[third base]

Damn Nice! I'll Take Two! LOL. :bananna2:

[yody]

wow! so is the bar functional? or just for looks? BTW WOWW again!!!

[Nine Ball]

DROOOOL. Damn you for posting those pics, it only solidifies my desire for a black ragtop even more!!

I like those wheels! Beautiful setup, he should keep them :D

Tony

[ProdigyCustoms]

wow! so is the bar functional? or just for looks? BTW WOWW again!!!

Yeah, the bar is funtional and real important. It ties into a crossmember, and has some hidden Stantions behind the interior trim panel. I am pretty happy with the roll bar also, it was a pain in the ass to make. You can see Michael making it on the website at Projects, Current Projects, Michael's Prodigy. He basically bent up the bar, spilt it and boxed it.

[MrQuick]

dude, dude....dude.... damn

[zbugger]

bblakbd fjbdfbk dfjb akd j ba ........umm..... adfdkajf baoefbj adf...... Ummmm..... wow. damn. wow. Stunning. And just say that the spoiler bent down in the wind tunnel or something. Too much downforce.

[Supra510]

That's awesome. Those 345's look great under there. Hell, I'd take that paint anyday, at least I'd have some.

Anthony
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/674663

[CAMAROBOY69]

That is just beautiful!! I also love the rims and the exhaust set up.

[69rs]

:eek: Holy crap, that looks good! Great job Michael! That's one fine lookin' butt on that car!:drool:

[CAMAROBOY69]

Frank what are those exhaust tips off of? I like them enough that I am thinking of putting them on my car. Are those 3" ?

[ProdigyCustoms]

Adam, keep in mind Michael is doing this with his money, so he is on a tight budget. So when I tell you they are Discount Auto parts Ricer specials you will understand. Actually though they look to be really nice, they are resonated and solid stainless. He only paid about $25 a piece, which is real cheap for stainless tips. if you do not have a Discount Auto parts up there, let me know and I can grab you a pair and send them.

They are for 3" exhaust and measure 4.25 OD. The slash angle at the end is about 10 degress different then the rear body panel, we adjusted the angle nd got it damn close

[CAMAROBOY69]

I know all about tight budget. Those look so nice I think I definetly want them if they are only $25 a piece. The angle was my concern but it looks perfect on there and I would be able to set them how I wanted on my car for my Viper mock up. These would be soo much nicer than chrome tips. These will be perfect for my Viper inspired exhaust. Expect a PM in a few minutes. I think Rick Dorin might be interrested in these also since he is running a similar exhaust to my original idea from this thread. https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/showthread.php?t=678

[JoshStratton]

Frank. The car looks awesome! I do have one question though. How did you set the suspension while on that cart? Won't the wheels raise up into the body when you set it down...possibly creating some rubbing?

[JoshStratton]

Nevermind. I think I see a jack in there.

[Steve Chryssos]

Un-FREAKIN-believable!!
Ride height is awesome. Note that there is no subframe frame hanging below the body line.
-Stinger hood is a nice change from all the cowl induction hoods. Awesome!
-Frenched fuel filler looks killer.
-Exhaust? Beautiful!
-Frank did not mention that the roll bar is built in such a way that it clears the convertible top when in the up position. Awesome!
-Glad to see that you are going with Forgelines instead of the wheels in the rendering.

As for the rear spoiler, the "bow" is exaggerated by the presence of the roll bar--which has a nice curvature. I would call Wings West, tell them that you are thrashing on a SEMA build and have a little problem. Email them the pix and see if they can help. Maybe you can send them your spoiler and a template of the roll bar's curvature. I know (second hand) that they are the real deal.
/Steevo

[ProdigyCustoms]

The susension is centered at that height and still has 3" of travel. Because Michael channeled the body over the new frame, the suspension rides centered instead of already in droop near the stops. We have the suspension locked in the rear with bars in place of shocks at ride heaight, the front is still loose, ala jack. But she will ride, at full travel, at that height, which is under 6" rocker height, with nothing hanging under the car like exhaust. Since it is a full channeled chassis, center of gravity should be very low. Ride height will be adjustable with double adjustable coil over QA1s at each corner

[JoshStratton]

with nothing hanging under the car like exhaust.

Genious. That is something to be proud of. I just looked at the pics on your site of the build. I do not think I have ever heard (let alone thought) of hiding the exhaust that way....although I am an amature still learning.

Do you know if you have a higher resolution picture of that exhaust actually in the frame? I think it is picture #47 of 71 on your site. Is it ceramic coated? Since exhausts get pretty hot, are there any possible dangers, repercussions of having it buried into the frame? Forgive my ignorance. I am just fascinated by that.

[mdprovee]

Frank, WOW that is awesome looking. I have the same spoiler, and it is as wavy as the ocean. I was going to scrap it until I saw how good it looked on your car. Great work on the camaro.

Mike

[Roger Poirier]

Boy oh boy,

What do they say? The fruits of your labor. I will save my burning desires and comments, congrats, once it completely finished.

I applaud you and your son on this project. I'm a big fan of Prodigy Customs. Excelente!

R.P.

[protour_chevelle]

This is one car that looks better in real life then in the rendering! Very nice job, but the spoilers gotta go. It makes the car look tacky. IMO.

-Matt

[Travis B]

Looks killer Frank.......great job so far! 345's :hmm:

[Rybar]

The car looks amazing! You guys are doing a super job. Every detail is done to perfection. Can't wait to see it done!

[Steve Chryssos]

Found the webpage on the Forgeline wheels. You're gonna have to give Michael a raise. $$$!

http://www.forgeline.com/wheels/sp3p.html

And yes. I'm posting a huge-A-licious pic of the wheel on purpose. Check out the detail on those chamferred edges!

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif

[Bill Howell]

Steve,
Check out the valve stem placement too. Forgeline pays so much attention to the little details. They were great to work with too on my wheels. After reading about horror stories about non delivery or slow delivery from other wheel makers, I was very pleased when my wheels came on time and correct. Forgeline seems to be interested in our nitch of the hobby and price their wheels accordingly. While they are certainly high end, I have not seen any of their wheels that I would not love to own.

[4OfaKind]

As for the rear spoiler, the "bow" is exaggerated by the presence of the roll bar--which has a nice curvature. I would call Wings West, tell them that you are thrashing on a SEMA build and have a little problem. Email them the pix and see if they can help. Maybe you can send them your spoiler and a template of the roll bar's curvature. I know (second hand) that they are the real deal.
/Steevo

I think steevo's idea is the easiest and least expensive if WW comps you.


Yeah, the bar is funtional and real important. It ties into a crossmember, and has some hidden Stantions behind the interior trim panel. I am pretty happy with the roll bar also, it was a pain in the ass to make. You can see Michael making it on the website at Projects, Current Projects, Michael's Prodigy. He basically bent up the bar, spilt it and boxed it.

If not you could make one out of steel (or aluminum).
-Take the original off the car and place it on a level table
-Bend a pice of steel (@ desired thickness) over the top and form a rough piece of the wing
-Cut bases off the original wing & bend more steel around them to form mounts for new wing ( don't completely close them leave a U shape)
-Weld in steel rods to brace mounts, then weld up U shape
-Weld the three pieces together, tack onto car, & hammer out the final shape

Just an idea :hmm:

[ProdigyCustoms]

Genious. That is something to be proud of. I just looked at the pics on your site of the build. I do not think I have ever heard (let alone thought) of hiding the exhaust that way....although I am an amature still learning.

Do you know if you have a higher resolution picture of that exhaust actually in the frame? I think it is picture #47 of 71 on your site. Is it ceramic coated? Since exhausts get pretty hot, are there any possible dangers, repercussions of having it buried into the frame? Forgive my ignorance. I am just fascinated by that.

Actually many factory cars like Corvettes have the exhaust running through the tunnel. The headers were a real pain, along with getting full 3" through the tunnel, along with a driveshaft and transmission. For all practical purposes, the car was built around the exhaust. You should here it! If I can figure out how to edit or reduce the video, I will post it.

Here are a couple pics, yes is it being Ceramic coated front to rear.

[JoshStratton]

That is incredible. How long did it take to mock that up and figure out all of the placement issues? I can imagine it is a LONG and tedious process. Maybe I missed it, but what type of mufflers are you using?

[MuscleRodz]

Looks like chambered mufflers but whose I don't know. I am now almost wishing I built a new floor for mine rather than raising an new one piece oem floor. There isn't going to be much left of it by the time I am done. I didn't know that was an exhuast tunnel Frank!

Mike

[boodlefoof]

I love those stinger hoods... I'm definitely getting one for my '68 someday.

[jeffandre]

...we will be using the same size 345 rears, but 2" wider 295 fronts, and Forgeline SP3Ps.

Frank,
What size wheels will be used with the 295's? Thanks,

[ProdigyCustoms]

19 X 11 1/2s, they are 295/30/19s they will be 26 tall and a 12" section making 12' fronts, 14" rears

[Ralph LoGrasso]

Wow, looks great guys!!!

[Drewhelm]

WOW.....that stinger hood loks great....as does the 69 Trans Am spoiler. Wicked car....

[jeffandre]

19 X 11 1/2s, they are 295/30/19s they will be 26 tall and a 12" section making 12' fronts, 14" rears

Awesome, can't wait to see it done. Great work by the way.

[1bluaddict]

Damn it looks killer and now I might be seriously thinkin about those 19's instead of my little 18's. They just seem small in comparison, the wheels in my head are turnin turnin, yeah !!!!

[JoshStratton]

Sorry to hijack the thread, but 1bluaddict....I just read your profile. Man I am sorry. We are glad to have you hear and hope you get better soon.

I give the thread back now :)

[Bill Howell]

Sorry to hijack the thread, but 1bluaddict....I just read your profile. Man I am sorry. We are glad to have you hear and hope you get better soon.

I give the thread back now :)
I second that emotion.
Bluaddict, you and I are only about a month and a half apart in age. Some of the younguns here think we are old, but you can cover my back now when they start on me.LOL If Allen (Zbugger) chimes in, just ignore him.
Sorry to hear about your accident. My wife was in a chair for three years, so I can relate to what you and your family are going thru. Keep your chin up, there is light at the end of the tunnel. :icon996:

[Roger Poirier]

Frank,

This thread is getting out of hand and it was only posted yesterday. The car isn't even in final paint yet. The color combo, convt, style and details you and your son Michael have put into this car is just amazing. This car is going to be HUGE HIT at SEMA 05. I mean really Big!

I think I'm starting to get jealous again. Darn it anyways.

R.P.

[David Sloan]

Frank & Michael
I would have expected nothing less from you guys, We have been a fan of the car for some time now!!!!!
Keep up the good work!!!!!! Cant wait till Turkey Run!!!!!!!!!!!!

[CAMAROBOY69]

That is an awesome exhaust set up. I would love to hear it somehow. If you have MSN you could send me the file and I could probably cut the size in half without hurting the quality of the video. :seizure:

[ProdigyCustoms]

the video is too big to send, my AOL account will not allow it.

[CAMAROBOY69]

Thats why I asked if you had MSN. Msn messenger will let you send ANYTHING. Doesnt matter what size it is. Ive sent entire programs over a gig in size thru MSN. So im sure your file will be very easy to get. What is the size of it? 15MB, 45MB, 75MB? easy to send.

[ProdigyCustoms]

52.6 mg, I am going to try to up laod a short version.

[CAMAROBOY69]

56mb would be nothing thru MSN messenger. BUt if you can upload a small version that would be cool too. You know you can use yousendit.com to upload any video you want right? Its free. http://www.yousendit.com/[email protected]

[ProdigyCustoms]

Need your email

[CAMAROBOY69]

You can use your own. Thats what I do that way I know if it works or not. Once it goes thru you will get a hyperlink. Right click that and post the properties to it. Just that easy. It will be a link to where they put the video on their server.
If you want try a very small video first as a test.

[boodlefoof]

Man, I love those wheels... but the price is just killer.

Even though buying wheels for my Datsun project is a way's off I've been looking into my options and there just aren't many wheel styles I like out there. Anybody know of some wheels similar to that in the pic, but that are a bit less expensive and in the 17-18'' range rather than 19-20?

[DarkBuddha]

Just wait til you see the little surprize at next year's power tour. :ssst:
Damn tease! I'm patient... but if you wanna tell everyone else, I'm sure they won't pass it on... :naughty:

[USAZR1]

What an awesome car,Frank. You have found another way to showcase the beauty of a 69 Camaro. Wow!

[CAMAROBOY69]

What an awesome car,Frank. You have found another way to showcase the beauty of a 69 Camaro. Wow!
You mean 67?

[Jagarang]

Surprise at Power Tour?? :dunno:

[Bill Howell]

Surprize at Power Tour?? :dunno:
:ssst: It would not be a surprise then!

[CAMAROBOY69]

Kevin Kevin Kevin :slap: :lol:

[LTorres]

Frank,
I'll call you on Monday at get this Rear Brake thing squared away. Car looks Sweet man. Can't wait to get some BRAAAAKES on it!! I e-mailed you the Pics of our Mechanical E-Brake, should be to your liking. I'll contact Lokar and discuss how to get cables on your car and connect them to our Parker. Looking forward to seein this at SEMA!! See ya there.