Schwartz Gremlin

[jeff s]

The chassis is now complete. Coming to an Autocross near you.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/02/7550944866_422d589bed_c-1.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7550944866/)
DSCN4027 2 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7550944866/) by Schwartz Performance (http://www.flickr.com/people/schwartzperf/), on Flickr
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DSCN9575 2 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7550951798/) by Schwartz Performance (http://www.flickr.com/people/schwartzperf/), on Flickr

[muthstryker]

Oh. Wow. That Green, and gold wheels is a perfect combo! This should be damn cool when complete! Something different that for sure!

[454bug]

VERY COOL!!! :twothumbs

[LeighP]

Different...thats for sure. Should be a great autocrosser.

[craigs73]

sweeeeeeeeet lol.....should go around those cones with ease

[Ron S]

I don't know if everyone knows it, but that is the same car as an AMX, with a little different shape on top. Leave it to you Jeff, always doing something out of the ordinary. I used to love the Gremlin commercials back in the 70's, with the cigar smoking gas station attendant, saying "Wheres the rest of your car tootes" to the lady driver.

[ATOMonkey]

Love it!!!

[FoxGranadaChuck]

I don't know if everyone knows it, but that is the same car as an AMX, with a little different shape on top. Leave it to you Jeff, always doing something out of the ordinary. I used to love the Gremlin commercials back in the 70's, with the cigar smoking gas station attendant, saying "Wheres the rest of your car tootes" to the lady driver.


Yep. That is the major reason why I have always wanted an early 70's Gremlin with a 401 and the Mark Donohue chassis modifications.

[FoxGranadaChuck]

BTW, love the idea behind this project.

[pedro gonzalez]

Jeff that is bad ass!!!! i had a chance at a solid yellow gremlin 401 4spd last summer 1,000 bucks here in milwaukee,drivetrain will be?

[TomT]

The chassis is now complete. Coming to an Autocross near you.

Very cool Jeff! Come on man...show us some more pics!

[ONDSKAN]

Gremlinsanity!!

[UMI Tech]

I'm reading the Unfair Advantage and now this shows up?!

AWESOME

ramey

[Tincup]

It is refreshing to see someone who is not afraid to think outside the box. I love it......

[asifnyc]

AMCs taking over! :)

[SSninja]

Too cool!

CAn you post more info on the wheels?

[rjsjea]

Dig it!!

[BLWN1]

damn

[Torquedork]

Well, at least your car has some road racing heritage! Good Luck!

Multiple IMSA wins, Championships and class wins at the 24 Hrs of Daytona in the early '70's all on street Radial T/A's! Go figure.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif

[Chevrolaine]

From "The Flying Turd" to "The Wicked Little Booger"? lol Freakin LOVE IT!!

[nine lives johnny]

you need to get some pfc stoppers on it :P

[SRD art]

Very cool. I always wanted to do an LSX Chevette, this is not far off from what I was thinking. I'll bet it will be one killer oversized go-kart! Keep the pics comin'!

[sixfivepost]

Ok, who's going to do a Pacer? :-) I love it, now that is a hot hatch!!

[Poopy]

Wicked...love it. ;) Moar pics please.

[78 Type-LT]

Oh my gawd...i'm in love..

[521stroker57]

What color green is that?
That's one bad looking gremlin

[68Formula]

YYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!! !!!!

Subscribed.

[jeff s]

AMC Powered, with alum heads, etc. (for now) Gold XXR 962 wheels, 18x12 and 18x9.5.
Ridetech triple adjustable remote reservoir shocks, Baer 14" Pro plus brakes, custom Schwartz Chassis.
(A modified version of our Mustang unit). Car belongs to Mark Greenisen, my friend who drove the Tempest and Vega at some events the last couple years. We hope to have it at Nashville Goodguys.

[Damn True]

Equal parts hilarious and awesome!

[Tony_SS]

Love it!

[fordsbyjay]

That is super cool. I like oddball cars.

[rfalker1]

i like this car.. its gonna be soooo fast !!!

[SS PUNISHER]

That's the ugliest car ever!







I LOVE IT!!!

[protour73]

Jeff, It's going to be very tough to beat the Flying Turd (I was a BIG fan!!), but you have a great start!!!

57805

[grnman]

57806578075780857809Here are some more build pic's for this GIZMO machine

[FoxGranadaChuck]

Ok, who's going to do a Pacer? :-) I love it, now that is a hot hatch!!


Pacer...eBay 5.7 Hemi...Keisler 5-speed stick...sounds like a plan!!

[csouth]

I loved seeing the Turd move around Gingerman. This is awesome! Pushing the envelope of fun again...

[Schwartz Performance]

Hey guys,

We're still in the fabrication stage, as you can tell. I threw the wheels on just for this pic. The ride height still needs to be dialed-in.


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Schwartz_Gremlin_Stance2 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/6973390940/) by Schwartz Performance (http://www.flickr.com/people/schwartzperf/),
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Schwartz_Gremlin_Stance1 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/6973391948/) by Schwartz Performance (http://www.flickr.com/people/schwartzperf/),
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Schwartz_Gremlin_Tunnel (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7119474085/) by Schwartz Performance (http://www.flickr.com/people/schwartzperf/),

[69lsxamx]

seeing this makes me want one your car looks great

[future9er24]

man, this pacer is beyond glorious :bananna2:

[ent72olds]

:confused:
man, this pacer is beyond glorious :bananna2:

That was being sarcastic....right?

[future9er24]

no it wasnt :dunno:

All I meant was that this car looks pretty sweet. It's small, from the 70s and ridiculous, which I'm definitely a fan of

[ent72olds]

I wasn't trying to flame you...I thought when you called it a "pacer" you were joking! It is a gremlin though...

[qnitro]

This is one of the most disturbingly awesome cars I have ever seen...I want more

[Rick D]

Very cool car and way outside the box! Man I need to stop by and check it out seeing I'm only in Algonquin!

[Derek69SS]

Inspiration?

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/04/henchgreenwhitegrem-1.jpg

Needs some more hardware though... for the cones that get in the way.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/04/gremlinx-1.jpg

[SS PUNISHER]

no it wasnt :dunno:

All I meant was that this car looks pretty sweet. It's small, from the 70s and ridiculous

That doesn't make it a pacer..... although the mirthmobile would be awesome!!!

[Brads70]

Hats off to ya! Cool build!

[Schwartz Performance]

We finished cleaning up the engine bay, mounted the engine again, finished the trans tunnel, and minitubbed the rear to fit 335/30/18 on 13" wheels.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/02/7550951798_c267d0a7bb_c-1.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7550951798/)
DSCN9575 2 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7550951798/) by Schwartz Performance (http://www.flickr.com/people/schwartzperf/), on Flickr

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DSCN9572 2 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7550954632/) by Schwartz Performance (http://www.flickr.com/people/schwartzperf/), on Flickr

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DSCN9565 2 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7550948594/) by Schwartz Performance (http://www.flickr.com/people/schwartzperf/), on Flickr

Someone on facebook made this :)
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Gremlin_Forza1 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7550954794/) by Schwartz Performance (http://www.flickr.com/people/schwartzperf/), on Flickr

[csouth]

Damn that sits low! I can't wait until this is done...Great work!

[Schwartz Performance]

Damn that sits low! I can't wait until this is done...Great work!

Thanks!

The timeline of these photos might be a little off...

But better late then never, right? :thumbup:

The Disassembly:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/08/7826349792_c79a9b4d2f_c-1.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7826349792/)
1972 Gremlin Disassembly (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7826349792/) by Schwartz Performance (http://www.flickr.com/people/schwartzperf/), on Flickr
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/08/7826349028_6879f9b25e_c-1.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7826349028/)
1972 Gremlin Disassembly (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7826349028/) by Schwartz Performance (http://www.flickr.com/people/schwartzperf/), on Flickr
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/08/7826348714_55ca75d3ea_c-1.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7826348714/)
1972 Gremlin Disassembly (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7826348714/) by Schwartz Performance (http://www.flickr.com/people/schwartzperf/), on Flickr
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/08/7826348402_d91e9a612c_c-1.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7826348402/)
1972 Gremlin Disassembly (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7826348402/) by Schwartz Performance (http://www.flickr.com/people/schwartzperf/), on Flickr
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1972 Gremlin Disassembly (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7826346652/) by Schwartz Performance (http://www.flickr.com/people/schwartzperf/), on Flickr
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1972 Gremlin Disassembly (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7826346392/) by Schwartz Performance (http://www.flickr.com/people/schwartzperf/), on Flickr

[sartren]

You should swap the quarter glass side to side and invert them.

[Zanie]

You should swap the quarter glass side to side and invert them.
huh? you mean make it look like a normal car?

[Zanie]

Here's your baseline performance test.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftIZQK--Pk0

You should duplicate the tests "after"

[sartren]

huh? you mean make it look like a normal car?

I saw a drawing in a car mag a bunch of years ago and it looked cool. Could be a cool mod.

[jeff s]

You should swap the quarter glass side to side and invert them.

Do you mean so that the body line swoops downward instead of upward?


Here's your baseline performance test.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftIZQK--Pk0
You should duplicate the tests "after"

That's great. Maybe we can create a mash-up between that and new autoX footage

[craigs73]

Do you mean so that the body line swoops downward instead of upward?

i think thats what he meant.... i think it make look better....put the pass side on drivers side upside down and vise versa on passenger side

[mc84_zz4]

Insanely cool!
:bananna2:

[Hornet LSX]

There was some concept drawings in an early 80's edition of Carcraft magazine with a Gremlin similar to what you are creating presented. In the drawing the rear side windows were swapped and flipped so that the curve or swoop of the glass followed the slope of the rear hatch. There was a Gremlin called a "camback" that was basically a wagon version the gremlin. The rear side glass slope match the roof line of the back glass. I think the way the glass and rear roof line creat the triangle is part what give the gremlin it's character. I have a scan of the concept gremlin for CC that I will try and post for you tonight. As it stands where you are going with this car is outstanding! Keep up the work on it. Giving me really great inspiration on ideas for my Hornet X.

[Schwartz Performance]

This:

I think the way the glass and rear roof line creat the triangle is part what give the gremlin it's character.

[sartren]

[QUOTE=jeff s;929809]Do you mean so that the body line swoops downward instead of upward?

Yeah, then The slope of the qtr. glass would then match the slope of the back of the car, and not the front A-pillars. It might of been early 2000's in Car Craft or Hot Rod where I seen the rendering. Was just a thought. Someone could render it up easy.

[Hornet LSX]

Correction on my post, It was an issue of Popular Hot Rodding. Here is the Gremlin concept that keeps getting mentioned. Now that I see the 1/4 glass flip I actually really like the look.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/08/ProTourGremlin_00000-1.jpg

[sartren]

Correction on my post, It was an issue of Popular Hot Rodding. Here is the Gremlin concept that keeps getting mentioned. Now that I see the 1/4 glass flip I actually really like the look.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/08/ProTourGremlin_00000-1.jpg

Yup, thats the one. Still looks like a gremlin, just better, in my opinon:)

[Zanie]

Jeff's new front wheel openings look just like the concept drawing.

[Hornet LSX]

Exactly! and this was posted back in 1982 I think.

[Six_Shooter]

You would need custom glass or something from a different car, due to the angles involved, just swapping them side for side and flipping them, would create a downward slope at the bottom of the glass.

Can't wait to see more updates. I've always liked the Gremlins, and this colour combo is killer.

[sartren]

When I saw it in a mag it had to be somewhere in the 90's cause in 82 I was 13 and not readin car mags yet. They should at least pull the glass and tape 'em on the other side and take some pics for a visual. I liked the vega build, and this one should be just as cool.

[sartren]

When I saw it in a mag it had to be somewhere in the 90's cause in 82 I was 13 and not readin car mags yet. They should at least pull the glass and tape 'em on the other side and take some pics for a visual. I liked the vega build, and this one should be just as cool.

[Schwartz Performance]

Correction on my post, It was an issue of Popular Hot Rodding. Here is the Gremlin concept that keeps getting mentioned. Now that I see the 1/4 glass flip I actually really like the look.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/08/ProTourGremlin_00000-1.jpg

Very cool! It makes it look much more modern. But arguably, all the details, like this, that make the Gremlin so wrong, are what make it so right.

Very cool idea though. I'll definitely show the owner! Thanks for finding that!

[Schwartz Performance]

Building/installing the chassis. If I recall correctly, we were able to adapt a first-gen F-Body chassis to this Gremlin, though it made the installation more complicated.

Note: This was a one-off application. The installation process you see here is NOT typical of our chassis. Our production G-Machine Chassis are bolt-in capable. Since we wanted to body-drop this Gremlin, more work and welding was required.

Finding the center line:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/08/7826319308_99789d2843_c-1.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7826319308/)
1972 AMC Gremlin Early Chassis Fabrication (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7826319308/) by Schwartz Performance (http://www.flickr.com/people/schwartzperf/), on Flickr
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/08/7826318598_78c556821e_c-1.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7826318598/)
1972 AMC Gremlin Early Chassis Fabrication (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7826318598/) by Schwartz Performance (http://www.flickr.com/people/schwartzperf/), on Flickr

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1972 AMC Gremlin Early Chassis Fabrication (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7826317790/) by Schwartz Performance (http://www.flickr.com/people/schwartzperf/), on Flickr
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1972 AMC Gremlin Early Chassis Fabrication (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7826317476/) by Schwartz Performance (http://www.flickr.com/people/schwartzperf/), on Flickr
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1972 AMC Gremlin Early Chassis Fabrication (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7826316922/) by Schwartz Performance (http://www.flickr.com/people/schwartzperf/), on Flickr

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1972 AMC Gremlin Early Chassis Fabrication (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7826315840/) by Schwartz Performance (http://www.flickr.com/people/schwartzperf/), on Flickr
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1972 AMC Gremlin Early Chassis Fabrication (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7826315386/) by Schwartz Performance (http://www.flickr.com/people/schwartzperf/), on Flickr
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/08/7826314322_153919b9b2_c-1.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7826314322/)
1972 AMC Gremlin Early Chassis Fabrication (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7826314322/) by Schwartz Performance (http://www.flickr.com/people/schwartzperf/), on Flickr

Tack welds:
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1972 AMC Gremlin Early Chassis Fabrication (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7826313900/) by Schwartz Performance (http://www.flickr.com/people/schwartzperf/), on Flickr
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1972 AMC Gremlin Early Chassis Fabrication (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7826313390/) by Schwartz Performance (http://www.flickr.com/people/schwartzperf/), on Flickr
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/08/7826313052_f07b40e988_c-1.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7826313052/)
1972 AMC Gremlin Early Chassis Fabrication (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7826313052/) by Schwartz Performance (http://www.flickr.com/people/schwartzperf/), on Flickr
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1972 AMC Gremlin Early Chassis Fabrication (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7826312598/) by Schwartz Performance (http://www.flickr.com/people/schwartzperf/), on Flickr
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1972 AMC Gremlin Early Chassis Fabrication (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7826312312/) by Schwartz Performance (http://www.flickr.com/people/schwartzperf/), on Flickr
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1972 AMC Gremlin Early Chassis Fabrication (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7826311940/) by Schwartz Performance (http://www.flickr.com/people/schwartzperf/), on Flickr

[Schwartz Performance]

New ride height:

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/08/7826311638_f2103444e1_c-1.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7826311638/)
1972 AMC Gremlin Early Chassis Fabrication (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7826311638/) by Schwartz Performance (http://www.flickr.com/people/schwartzperf/), on Flickr
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/08/7826311258_26fb7f405a_c-1.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7826311258/)
1972 AMC Gremlin Early Chassis Fabrication (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7826311258/) by Schwartz Performance (http://www.flickr.com/people/schwartzperf/), on Flickr
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/08/7826310782_a2b02b423d_c-1.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7826310782/)
1972 AMC Gremlin Early Chassis Fabrication (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7826310782/) by Schwartz Performance (http://www.flickr.com/people/schwartzperf/), on Flickr
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/08/7826310388_e50178cc54_c-1.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7826310388/)
1972 AMC Gremlin Early Chassis Fabrication (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7826310388/) by Schwartz Performance (http://www.flickr.com/people/schwartzperf/), on Flickr

[pinky49]

that's very cool, i like it!!!
ed

[Six_Shooter]

Thanks for the pictures of the early fab of the front end, it's giving me ideas on how to do something similar in my Datsun, while still keeping it uni-body, and similar to the original design, while upgrading the function and strength. :D

I can't wait to see more on this build, I've always loved the Gremlins, and the colour is a great choice. :D

[moparnate]

so cool!

[jeff s]

It should hit the streets and AX this year. 335's are fitted. Schwartz Chassis, Ridetech Triples, 14" Baer Pro-Plus Brakes, 360 cid 450 hp AMC engine.

[77tony]

Great to watch all of your builds. Anything on the Porsche 356? T

[Rod]

It should hit the streets and AX this year. 335's are fitted. Schwartz Chassis, Ridetech Triples, 14" Baer Pro-Plus Brakes, 360 cid 450 hp AMC engine.

bring that thing out to the west Jeff, and I will flog it and win some events, if you need a test pilot brother, :naughty:

[jeff s]

The 335's look kinda small now that the rear fenders are flared.

[CodexGigas]

That Looks Gangsta.

[mc84_zz4]

I was hoping to catch an update on this one.
:cheers:

[howehot]

The last I knew was the owner had the car and was getting ready to paint it. His plan was to have it completed for the upcoming season. I'm sure Jeff knows more.

[Dave B]

I haven't been around here long enough, to have seen this before...all I can saw is "Wow!" That car looks awesome! I wish I could do that to a Maverick.

[Damn True]

Man that is goofy.



....and by goofy I mean completely bitchin.

[JKELCH]

Any updates? Its been a while since the last progress pics. It was looking sweet!

[Schwartz Performance]

Any updates? Its been a while since the last progress pics. It was looking sweet!

The owner, Mark Greenisen, has been slowly progressing with the final assembly. He's hoping to have it on the road this spring/summer!

-Dale

[Josh@Ridetech]

Badass! lol, I don't know how I haven't seen this yet.

[Motown 454]

He's going to need 12' long wheelie bars if he pulls a holeshot! Nice project.

[JKELCH]

Thanks for the update, be cool to see some pics soon if possible.

[Later-A-body]

Really really cool!!