63 belair goes twin turbo! project flatliner

[E.rodz]

Hi my name is Eric hokenson I have been in and out of this fourm for a while now and I would like to start this thread over to focus on just the belair.
What is the plan? the plan is to build one of the best built cars on a buget that I possibly can out of my home shop with very little farmed out.
motor currently a 5.3 just removed the supercharger to build a custom twin turbo system.
Who is E.rodz customs? this is just myself an Aprentice and my son. Hobby shop NOT a business!
I am not a spammer not looking for business just want to share my success or failure with you guys and it could go either way.
A different way that I have never tried and so far it has been a blast. is to drive the car as much as possible during the build so far I have racked on about 12,000 miles on the car.
Please join me on a quest to make a family oriantated pro touring car that can and will drive accross the country and do well in all catagories.
WHATS UP WITH THE SIGNATURES?????????? Somewere along the way right after the motor was mocked up into the car I decided to start driving the car and because I do custom painting and airbrushing everyone just assumed that I had painted the car and it was done.This is not what I wanted I DID NOT PAINT THE CAR. I bought it painted this way and it will change. so the idea came up about having people write there Ideas of if they had a million dollers what whould you do to the car to make it the coolest car in the world?????????
A lot of people caught on and wrote some pretty cool and creative ideas.Alot of people are really brain dead.so with that said please join in with you tips,sugestions,Ideas,of what you think I should do with the car.give me input along the way good or bad!!
My original goal was 450 to the rear wheels and 20 mpg.
My new goal is 750 to the rear wheels,20 mpg.,reliable,comfortable and mind blowing body mods. I hope this catches your intrest. I will get the build picts. up to date then post up picts. as we go hope have you guys along for the adventure. If you would like to see more of my work check out my web site. www.erodzcustoms.com (http://www.erodzcustoms.com) just a man with big dreams!
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This was the starting point years ago.

[E.rodz]

the car came with a 350/350 combo.I was planing on building this up and running it until I bought a 5.3 ls based drivetrain out of a stolen suburban with only 1,800 miles on it complete and dollar for dollar there was now way to beat this.after I pulled the motor out freshed it up sqirted some paint on it . I pulled the 5.3 apart and was amazed on how much gm. improved the sbc. and I was hooked.sold the motor and tranny.
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kind of a waste of time but oh well.
still with the old motor in and running. I built a full air ride system on a budget. using a system of my friends s10. and I fabbed all the spring buckets. and relocated the shocks.still the car handled like a mush bucket.
so we decided to put some sway bars on it and add some disk brakes.seems easy enough.Along comes as well as we are at it we might as well do this.
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[John Wright]

I vote to keep the paint job....I like it as is.

[bonecrrusher]

I've seen this car... and signed it.... lol.

[E.rodz]

I vote to keep the paint job....I like it as is.

well John I hate to dissapoint but.. thats not going to stay the same.don't worry it will be something you will like even better.

[E.rodz]

I've seen this car... and signed it.... lol.

I think I might even know were you signed it. and definetly remember what you suggested that I do with the car "twin turbo it". at the time I did not want to but guess what that is what I am curently working on.

[E.rodz]

ended up cutting the hell out of the frame to make the motor fit and get it as low as it should be. the good thing is the crossmember had plenty of weight to give up.
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[E.rodz]

I am attempting to get the thread up to date.
here is some picts. of the front sway bar and mounts,center stear rack and pinion.and some budget brakes using corvette c4 rotors and trailblazer calipers.
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mocking up the motor and figuring out how the exhaust needs to be routed.
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[E.rodz]

starting to fab up the innercooler piping.and mount the innercooler.
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[bonecrrusher]

I know there is a build thread on another site - cant put my finger on where it is.

I remember a pic of an old school bridge with the car parked diagonally across it.

At least your making progress on yours - I am rolling around in a two toned bruise colored car.... LOL.

[E.rodz]

I know there is a build thread on another site - cant put my finger on where it is.

I remember a pic of an old school bridge with the car parked diagonally across it.

At least your making progress on yours - I am rolling around in a two toned bruise colored car.... LOL.

I also have a build thread on lateral g .and I started another a while back on this one but I just wanted to get things a little more in order .I thought it would be eiser to start over then try to fix the old one . I will find that pict. that you are refering to and post it up later. It is my favorite.
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[E.rodz]

just wanted to post a few new updates. just finished a few weeks of thrashing to get everything ready to go on the power tour.well we finshed all the intercooler mounts,reworked all temp. piping changed to some 42# injectors.carl of cj tunes came over and tuned in,and we took the big gamble of doing are break in on the way to madison. at this point sleep was not an option. well for once everything worked out well and we made it to madison with no problems also pulled off 19 mpg.@75mph not bad ran a 31.4 in the autocross and a 13.8 qt. not bad for a huge boat. this is the best riding car ever. still have a long ways to go everything is still in mock up form and alot will be changed for final build.please let me know what you think.

[E.rodz]

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this is the autocross on the power tour 09.
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for once things went very well a maiden voyage and no issues. steering worked well,motor and drive train worked well for the first time out lots of room to improve but going in the right direction.

[E.rodz]

here is a couple of shots at back to the fifties in St. paul super fun show if you have never been there there are over 12,000 reg. cars at this event.
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[E.rodz]

Please let me know your thoughts and tell me if this was your car and money was not an object what would you do with the car to make it the coolest car on the planet.??????????????? post up your ideas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[E.rodz]

wow looks like all the kids at car shows have alot more ides than you guys.nothing really a great fourm like this and no one has got any ideas???????????????
here are a couple of shots of a trailer hitch that we fabbed up to pull a camper trailer and the kids custom bike that we built .
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[E.rodz]

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[68400BIRD]

Eric, nice to see a new build thread. Can't wait to see all of the things that you have planned for the car. I'm at a loss for new and creative ideas at the moment.:candle: If I have any bright ideas I'll let you know. I would love to come over and check out the garage and car if you have time.

[E.rodz]

Here is a link to why things are taking so long. this is my garage build and oh does it feel good to be almost done with it. back to working on the car again.

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still looking for buid ideas from you guys. if this was your car what would you do with it to make it better?????????????????

[E.rodz]

ok we are getting caught up with the build.
here is a little mods for the interior to make the kids be more comfortable on road trips.it took some time to get things to fit but in the end it worked out and the kids love them.
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still have to install the front seats but I need to figure out the seat belts first.

[E.rodz]

alomst forgot to show picts. of the prerimeter frame that we added.this was channeled inthe body to tuck the frame up a little bit . 2x4 material was used for this.
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keep in mind none of the body pannels have been off the car yet. we will have to finish welding the stuff on the top of the frame when the body comes off.

[E.rodz]

A friend of mine Sammy James from Mnfastlife.com came over and did up some renderings man this guy can draw no computer here just good old fashion art. this guy can ad and create things. if you can dream it he can draw it.
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[E.rodz]

First time show in America. Hosted at Brainerd international raceway in Minnesota. We went to the show not having any idea of what to expect. The trip up was a nightmare we pulled the pop up camper with the Belair with the bikes strapped to the back of the camper. the temps were in the high 90′s with not a cloud in the sky we did not even get 50 miles out when the trailer started bucking violently from side to side if we went anything over 55 mph.Then the fuel pump started to vapor lock the car died on the side of the road about 5 or 6 times packing ice around the pump would buy us about another twenty miles. A two and a half hr. drive turned into a 10 hr nightmare! My wife was not in a good mood at all the kids were also not so happy. Then we were shocked at the ticket prices there was a misunderstanding we thought when we pre registered at back to the fifties show we thought 130$ was the camping the car and the people in it . Wrong they wanted another 90$ apiece !I thought this was going to be a family event.$ 130 for the car and driver+90+90+90 wholy crap $400 for a weekend of play kind of nuts,but we were finaly there and the was no turning back now! set up camp and then passed out from exsaustion. soon to be woke up to a huge thunder and lightining storm mixed with huge winds five and a half inches of rain fell overnight and everything was like a big lake the car was parked in about 4 inches of water. Thinking to my self this is awesome. NOT! this sucks and nobody was in a good mood. we headed out to the track praying the fuel pump would work well it did and we had a frickin blast. we left the clamp on trailer mirrors on the car for entertainment purposes only the open cruising event turned into a full all out road race we had 4 people in the car ripping around the track passing people and just having a ball.lots to do and see burn out shows drifting,power skids,bikini contest.everyones mood was getting better by the minute there was not alot of people at this first time event so there was no waiting around for any event the day ended on a positive note and everyone had a great time. Later that night a trailer load of people showed up to check out the car a few of them were on the track earlier that day getting passed by a big orange belair with 4 people in the car and they were impressed and entertained at the same time.The car ran and handled awesome! sun.was a different story we went to head out on the track to get some videos on the road track driving experience and more gremlins showed up to the party the rear brakes started grinding and hanging up after scratching my head trying to figure out why they were grinding put some spacers in to center the pad basket better and went for a test drive and found out why fast! hit the gas and sheared the pinion shaft in half! huh thats bad! my nephew that came with us won a pair of subs.from a raffle ticket and shortly after we won the cruise event trophy and a hundred bucks. this helped with the towing bill to have the car hauled home on.What an adventure met some really fun and intresting people along the way. the event was really fun just a bit out of hand price wise hope they figure it out for next year because we would like to go try it again. Hopefully with a new rear end and more power!
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this show was just a blast and we are all about going to a show that you can go out and drive you car going again this year let me know if anyone wants to go you won,t regret it.need to see more pro touring cars out there!

[E.rodz]

funny thing is I had the new rear end before I went to Brainerd but did not have enough time to put it in.Thought it might be the week link I was right for once. Bought a moser fab 9 rear ended up trowing in a set of 3:55 gears and using a locker because I had it laying around.we will see how this goes.
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The rear is 1 inch narrower on each side than the orig.so later I can buy deeper and wider wheels. sure makes things alot easier to change tires now just looks retarded.

[E.rodz]

Well we are almost up to date.shop and house are done enough to take a brake from them and get some work done on the car.so far we have racked up about 12,000 miles on the car in mock up form and I am having a awesome time enjoying driving the car throughout the build so far.Well now it is time we made some more changes and this is were the TWIN TURBO idea came in. the original goal of 400rwhp. and 20mpg.was easily obtainable so now the new goal is 650 rwhp and 20 mpg. reliability and complete steet manners.I hope to bring it to sema this year with the drivetrain done and hope to be able to compete in the optima street challenge.
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We ended up going with the f body balancer and are making the brackets to run the alt. high on pass. side,air comp.low on pass. side,power steering and tensioner will be on the drivers side.

[E.rodz]

Just had a little write up on the Belair by LSX TV.if you guys have not checked out this site it has alot of great info on new GM. tech stuff. Looks like a great resorce for more GM. info.please let me know what you think..
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Keep in mind the car is far from done and changes will be coming more often now that we are caught up with the old build picts.If there is any questions that i can help you with please let me know.

[E.rodz]

TWIN TURBOS HERE WE COME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Got to know a local co. and we started talking about twin turbos. after doing a bit of research we found out that there is alot of guys.running stock shortblocks upwards of 8oo hp. so I decided to go for it to hopefully reach a goal of 650rwhp. and 20 mpg. cruising.the guys over at Modern automotive preformance. http://www.maperformance.com hooked me up with a pair of precision turbos.and lots of other great parts to build a twin turbo set up.after getting alot of @$#! from everybody about if your going to do a twin turbo you need to atleast make 1000hp. Although I do think that is really cool to be able to do that easily I decided to go with something that is a little more driveable and something I can afford to put gas in.I drive the car alot and I love it when my family comes with to events.so this is the direction that we are going...Thanks to the guys over at Mapreformance for giving me the tech support that helped me out greatly.if anyone is looking for a good turbo insight these are your guys. you can contact them @763-545-3800.
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[bonecrrusher]

Turbo's go woo woo!

LOL - looking good.

[E.rodz]

Turbo's go woo woo!

LOL - looking good.

I agree I could not be more excited thanks for the suggestion and stay tuned for more changes.

[E.rodz]

Got a good start on the turbo system.Still way more to go to be out of the woods yet. just going to keep plugging away and maybe by spring we will be able to drive this thing again.
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[E.rodz]

well the headers are almost done. hoping to get the v band clamps tomorrow. and I should be able to get the easy part of the hot side done. the down pipe is going to suck but it will get done one way or another.then it's time to reconstruct a new core support.still need a new tranny as well.
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[E.rodz]

Got a little more hot side piping done. This blows I am sick of crawling around on the floor I can't wait to get done with this part. Should have everything ready to fire up next week.lol.
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[E.rodz]

Making more progress almost done with the hot piping!!!!!!! .this is taking forever.making something look asymmetrical when nothing is,proving to be one hell of a challenge. Having a huge motor bay is awesome but the space fills up so fast. Why is making something look simple so frickin complicated?
OOOHHHHYYYAAAAAAA almost done with the hot piping!!!
only a couple of days left to fire this up.just a few more things to do .
design and fabricate new core support.
design and fabricate new gas tank.
fabricate new fuel lines and return lines.
fabricate all new brake lines.
replace tranny and shorten driveshaft.
is there anything that I am forgetting?????????????
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[Dalamar]

excellent work! love all the fab work and upgrades.

[68400BIRD]

Looks great, don't forget to remove the tape.LOL

[Dragonsnake]

Your project looks great an innovative,in a row of 2 door coupes and rag tops.Family cruiserracer isnt wrong;and you use it too..You cant go wrong here..lots of win!!.My idea of a 4 door 63 Bel air would be dark blue and 18-20 inch steel wheels,but it seems like you have a different directiopn..and i love it too:).

[TonyHuntimer]

Great build! You're obviously a talented guy. :)

Tony Huntimer
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[LeighP]

Very cool.....how about thinking of deep metallic/pearl green for the car....something thats not red, lol.
Heres my 71 coming out of the booth....

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I dig the big 4 door sedans...I'm looking for a 63 Pontiac 4 door as a daily driver...

[MyFriendScott]

Did the guys as MAP also discuss with you possibly needing to re-map the fuel and timing curve? I'm guessing you're going to need at least 20+psi to get the added 250HP, but that's a lot more power than the supercharger was making for you and I'd be concerned that the current timing curve has too much advance in it currently to support the extra boost you'll need to reach your HP target. If your fuel mapping runs closed-loop at WOT, this too will need to be re-mapped to make sure you've not going to run the engine lean and burn it up on the first pass.

[FRENCHBLUE72]

I too am on garage journal and have been following you thread there for your shop.. As far as ideas on this car paint it blue with cast or a grey colored wheel and change those taillights out to something else?

[E.rodz]

excellent work! love all the fab work and upgrades.thanks my goal is a troy trepanier,ring brothers . Quality type build. A long ways to go.

Looks great, don't forget to remove the tape.LOL
Ron funny you should mention that almost forgot to cut the holes in the header pipe.lol.

Your project looks great an innovative,in a row of 2 door coupes and rag tops.Family cruiserracer isnt wrong;and you use it too..You cant go wrong here..lots of win!!.My idea of a 4 door 63 Bel air would be dark blue and 18-20 inch steel wheels,but it seems like you have a different directiopn..and i love it too:).. Thanks for the input keep the ideas coming.


Great build! You're obviously a talented guy. :)
thanks for the kind words.still along way to go.
Tony Huntimer
RaceHome.com


Very cool.....how about thinking of deep metallic/pearl green for the car....something thats not red, lol.
Heres my 71 coming out of the booth....loving that color can't wait to see more of this

I dig the big 4 door sedans...I'm looking for a 63 Pontiac 4 door as a daily driver...


Did the guys as MAP also discuss with you possibly needing to re-map the fuel and timing curve? I'm guessing you're going to need at least 20+psi to get the added 250HP, but that's a lot more power than the supercharger was making for you and I'd be concerned that the current timing curve has too much advance in it currently to support the extra boost you'll need to reach your HP target. If your fuel mapping runs closed-loop at WOT, this too will need to be re-mapped to make sure you've not going to run the engine lean and burn it up on the first pass. yep on this one everything's going to change.twin turbo big can of snakes.


I too am on garage journal and have been following you thread there for your shop.. As far as ideas on this car paint it blue with cast or a grey colored wheel and change those taillights out to something else? thanks for the interest.I am with you on the tail lights they need to go.

[E.rodz]

almost done with the hot piping. this has turned out to be a huge pain in the butt. making things look asymmetrical when nothing is, proved to be a bigger challenge than I had originally anticipated,but things are still moving forward I hope!!!!!
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now onto the core support.
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Thanks everyone for coming up with some ideas for the build KEEP THEM COMING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[DB Z28]

Looks nice. Great craftmanship . This is the only car by us that is some what like yours but a 2 door doorslamer
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[E.rodz]

[QUOTE=DB Z28;886621]Looks nice. Great craftmanship . This is the only car by us that is some what like yours but a 2 door doorslamer
now those are some big hairdryers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! were you out on the powercruise in Brainerd last summer with that car.? what kind of times does it run? how much does it weigh?

[E.rodz]

Well looks like the only thing I have to do is.
:fabricate a new core support.
:fabricate a new gas tank.
:fabricate cool side piping.
:fabricate new radiator shroud and mounts:fab. up a new a/c condensor mount.
:new tranny mount.
:rebuild transmission.
:shorten driveshaft.
:fabricate new tranny lines and cooler system.
:change out valve springs,replace head gaskets and put in studs,poss. pistons and rods.
:oil feed and return lines.
Should have it up and running by next week. LOL.
Whos frickin idea was this to go twin turbo.It sounded alot better with more beer.mmmmmbeer.

[ryeguy2006a]

It is hard to tell from the pictures, but are your turbo's free standing, or did you make some mounts for them? I really like your craftsmanship, you are doing a good job making everything look symmetrical to me. I am thinking of going turbo in the future and I am just gathering ideas as I see them. Like the work.

Ryan

[E.rodz]

It is hard to tell from the pictures, but are your turbo's free standing, or did you make some mounts for them? I really like your craftsmanship, you are doing a good job making everything look symmetrical to me. I am thinking of going turbo in the future and I am just gathering ideas as I see them. Like the work.

Ryan for right now they are hanging off the headers but I think I will make a support hanger for it.still lots more fab to get this thing back on the road again,

[E.rodz]

trying to get back on track it has been a exhausting week and a half. my wife has been in and out of the hospital,but it looks like she is doing alot better now so attempting to get the intercooler done.bought a couple of intercoolers from ebay and ended up cutting both tanks off to completely change it. hind site being 20/20 I should have just ordered a couple of cores.Hope this works!
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[E.rodz]

been a exhausting couple of weeks but still trying to make some progress. finished welding the intercooler up and now the next thing is fab. up a new core support.
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[E.rodz]

Time just flies by when you are busy. It has been just nuts at work and it has been so frickin warm out that spring has come about two months early and being as we have been inside all winter it was time to get out and enjoy the early spring with tons of yard work. good thing about that is It is time to get on a roll with the belair again.going to start fabricating a new core support tomorrow night. wish me luck this could turn out bad or good it could go either way.

[CruizinKev]

wow nice job on that intercooler!!! :twothumbs

[rfalker1]

TWIN TURBOS HERE WE COME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Got to know a local co. and we started talking about twin turbos. after doing a bit of research we found out that there is alot of guys.running stock shortblocks upwards of 8oo hp. so I decided to go for it to hopefully reach a goal of 650rwhp. and 20 mpg. cruising.the guys over at Modern automotive preformance. http://www.maperformance.com hooked me up with a pair of precision turbos.and lots of other great parts to build a twin turbo set up.after getting alot of @$#! from everybody about if your going to do a twin turbo you need to atleast make 1000hp. Although I do think that is really cool to be able to do that easily I decided to go with something that is a little more driveable and something I can afford to put gas in.I drive the car alot and I love it when my family comes with to events.so this is the direction that we are going...Thanks to the guys over at Mapreformance for giving me the tech support that helped me out greatly.if anyone is looking for a good turbo insight these are your guys. you can contact them @763-545-3800.



Love the build and the turbos will work for great but only if u stay out of boost will u achieve the 20 mpg I think. Which is easy said than done because boost is so fun!!!!. My idea that could make this car coolest in the planet is two things. (its already awesome because u have a bike rack on the back)

A side exhaust. ( I just love that) and secondly.. fabbing up a match trailer. That could be awesome. Just an idea!!!

[E.rodz]

wow nice job on that intercooler!!! :twothumbs Thanks for the kind words I just hope this thing pressure tests ok. now its time to get everything mounted up and I will try to make everything look awesome along the way.


Love the build and the turbos will work for great but only if u stay out of boost will u achieve the 20 mpg I think. Which is easy said than done because boost is so fun!!!!. My idea that could make this car coolest in the planet is two things. (its already awesome because u have a bike rack on the back) I know boost is fun no doubt hoping to achieve ballpark 20ish mpg. cruising on the highway, then crank up the boost as needed {ok maybe needed would be the wrong word.maybe want would be a better choice. stay tuned for more turbo madness.Thanks for the interest

A side exhaust. ( I just love that) and secondly.. fabbing up a match trailer. That could be awesome. Just an idea!!!

[E.rodz]

Going to attempt to post up the video that we made discribing are plans on the belair. please let me know what you think.
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[rfalker1]

ohhh so you are going to have a trailor.. please customize it!!! and the video is cool. SO how are u going to build your for a 4 person since you are running race hornesses??

[FRENCHBLUE72]

Nice tuned in for sure..

[E.rodz]

ohhh so you are going to have a trailor.. please customize it!!! and the video is cool. SO how are u going to build your for a 4 person since you are running race hornesses??
Thanks for the interest. yes A pro touring car with a trailer hitch what could be better.A custom trailer has been in my mind for a while now.the car will have a full cage to mount all the seat belts to.stay tuned for more turbo madness!!!


Nice tuned in for sure..

Tuned in is a ways off yet but with any luck I would like to see it back on the road by june.

[rfalker1]

cant wait to see more

[E.rodz]

finaly had a chance to work on my car for a change.it has taking a long time to plan all this out in my head the core suport there are so many details that will be incorperated into it. I think I have a bit of a plan now and with any luck the next couple of weeks will be productive.
this is just one of the pieces to the puzzle that will end up the core suport.
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there are over twelve pieces to this small part of the puzzle so far.

[E.rodz]

Well met up with a old friend and decided that he is going to go through the 4l80e trans.for me this should help me with a little more time to get more done on the rest of the car.just returned from a much needed family get away. now its time to get back on the car.
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[E.rodz]

Gaining some momentum on the belair. sick and tired of doing projects for everyone else and no time to work on my own stuff.still trying to get the core support done this is proving to be quite the challenge. Feel free to chime in with your thoughts.
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[acegto]

Love your project and your signature...you've already surpassed any ideas i would have. Keep up the good work.

[FRENCHBLUE72]

Build a tubular core support..

[E.rodz]

Love your project and your signature...you've already surpassed any ideas i would have. Keep up the good work.
I know you have got some great ideas in your head somewere now just let them out and post them up.Thanks for the interest.

Build a tubular core support..
Love the idea stay tuned to see if I use your idea.Thanks for the interest hope to see this on the road soon.

[E.rodz]

going like mad to get this thing back on the road in the next week if all my parts show up in time!this is going to be a huge push.but going to try anyways.wish me luck I am going to need it?

[FRENCHBLUE72]

What parts ya got comming..

[E.rodz]

What parts ya got comming..

Lots of an fittings,hoses,thermastat housing,injectors,headers out for ceramic coating,driveshaft out for bigger yolk to fit the 4l80e,stainless tubing for tranny,fuel,vacuum lines,new torq convertor,flexplate.Lots more to go but still making progress just doing to much for everybody else and not enough on my stuff.stay tuned in the next couple of weeks should be pretty interesting.

[E.rodz]

Please don't be afraid to post up your ideas of what would you do with this car if it was yours and money was no object! Post your ideas up!!!!!!!!!!

[Mr T81]

Love the twin turbo idea, I would like more details on the engine.

[E.rodz]

Love the twin turbo idea, I would like more details on the engine.

more details coming up soon just on a mission to get this thing back on the road this week!

[nicke]

I really like this! Love your ideas so far, and not sure I have anything to add.
I love the twin turbo idea. Have you settled on wheels yet?
If I have a 4 door, I would probably suicide the rear doors, like the old Lincolns. Also, I would remove all emblems and trim on this one and paint it a solid color. I would put a body color matched full, smoothed metal console between bucket seats that complimented the body lines.

[68400BIRD]

more details coming up soon just on a mission to get this thing back on the road this week!

I guess that answers my question. See you at the 50's.

[E.rodz]

I really like this! Love your ideas so far, and not sure I have anything to add.
I love the twin turbo idea. Have you settled on wheels yet?
If I have a 4 door, I would probably suicide the rear doors, like the old Lincolns. Also, I would remove all emblems and trim on this one and paint it a solid color. I would put a body color matched full, smoothed metal console between bucket seats that complimented the body lines.

And you said you have nothing to add.lol. this is what I am talking about! this is the kind of responces I am looking for. Thanks for the input and keep the out of the box thinking going on!!!!

[E.rodz]

I guess that answers my question. See you at the 50's.

Rob I will be there sun for sure but not with the car.I tossed in the towel last night and decided that it just was not fun working on the car 24hrs a day and still might not be able to finish it. but with any luck it will be on the road in a week or two. hope to see ya there.

[E.rodz]

Got a great idea this weekend saw this and thought insted of pulling the camper around with us what if we cut the back of the car off and made it into a camper?going out to see if I have enough sawsall blades.
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[E.rodz]

My convertor showed up ended up picking it up from Dave with Yank convertors it is a 3000 stall multi disk convertor. I think this should wake this thing up so we can get into boost right away! We are getting closer to getting this thing fired up things are starting to get a bit more exciting now.
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cross your fingers so maybe we can make it to the power cruise then car craft!

[FRENCHBLUE72]

What did you ever figure out with the core support?

[E.rodz]

What did you ever figure out with the core support?
I figured out that this thing has kicked my azz everyway possible and has taking 10 times longer than I thought it would, But I am almost done with it and next is on to the powder coater then assemble like mad.


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Not done by any means ,But still moving forward.

[E.rodz]

Feel free to give me your input good or bad let me know your ideas and build suggestions post them up guys don't be shy

[E.rodz]

It's been a rough couple of weeks back in and out of hospitals and dr. offices.trying to get this thing back on the road soon.
finally had a chance to try shrinking and streching a couple of pieces to modify the front bumper filler panel.and grill trim.
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[E.rodz]

Got my headers and pipes ceramic coated by Race coatings in forest lake Mn.they did A awesome job super fast turn around.if anyone out there is looking for a place to get your parts coated I would suggest this place a+ service and fast turn around. Here is a link to there site .
http://www.racecoatings.com/
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[E.rodz]

Things are really starting to take shape now. I think we are done mocking up for now and into full assembly mode. going like hell to get this fired up in the next couple of days. hope to get it out to carcraft this coming weekend.
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[68400BIRD]

Looks great. Looking forward to seeing it this weekend. The only day that I can get there will be Friday.

[E.rodz]

Looks great. Looking forward to seeing it this weekend. The only day that I can get there will be Friday.

Thanks Rob I have to work on fri for my reg. job.Hoping to get it fired up tonight and go down there after work but that is just a wish and thats if everything lines up perfect.wish me luck I am going to need it.

[E.rodz]

Daaamm I could use some sleep been working round the clock to get this thing on the road by this weekend.apperently 3.5 hrs a night are not enough! hoping to get this thing fired up tonight!
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[nicke]

Man, that engine bay is looking awesome! Nice work!

-Nick

[bonecrrusher]

Looking good bro!

[lsx80monte]

Really nice work. I have a 62 impala 4door sedan thatis waiting its turn to get the ls treatment. One thing I was wondering is if you will have enough air flow for the condensor sandwiched in the middle of the intercooler and the rad. I can tell you that when you run the a/c, the condensor needs some instant air running through it especially if the car is not moving like in traffic. The high side pressure rises very quickly and cooling can be dramatically hindered.

[Young Gun]

Woo! That bay is looking good! This is one of the bubble tops that got me turned on to them a while back. I'd love to do one these! Keep it up!

[chumscustoms]

absolutely awesome keep us posted

[LUV2XLR8]

where did you plumb your oil lines from for the turbos? looks really sweet next to the intake...

[andrewb70]

where did you plumb your oil lines from for the turbos? looks really sweet next to the intake...

Probably from the back of the block, where the original oil pressure sensor was located.

Andrew

[LUV2XLR8]

either that or the access plate right above the oil filter possibly

[E.rodz]

Man, that engine bay is looking awesome! Nice work!

-Nick Thanks for the interest.Its not even close to being done so stay tuned for more turbo madness.


Looking good bro! Remember this was your idea. lol.


Woo! That bay is looking good! This is one of the bubble tops that got me turned on to them a while back. I'd love to do one these! Keep it up! thanks for the interest hope to keep things rolling now.so stay tuned.


absolutely awesome keep us posted hope to have some vidieos post up soon so stay tuned in.


where did you plumb your oil lines from for the turbos? looks really sweet next to the intake... I forgot to take picts. of this but I used the orig.oil pressure sending unit busted the guts out of it then machined a slug with a 1/4 npt. thread in it and then welded it together and screwed a T into it. hope this helps.


Probably from the back of the block, where the original oil pressure sensor was located.

Andrew You got it but the threads are metric and I modified the orig. sender and used it for a feed.


either that or the access plate right above the oil filter possibly

you can do it from there as well these blocks are readily avail.

[E.rodz]

Thought you guys doing a ls. swap I found a company makes swivel thermostat billet aluminum.accepts new style thermostat. very high quality piece.here is a phone # for ordering one EXTREME DRIVE SYSTEMS is the name of the company. 863-855-0820
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[E.rodz]

Well got the car on the road and things did not go smooth as they could have fired the car up fri at about 1:00am my friend Carl Thomas from Cj tunes helped out to get the car up and running drove the car only a couple of miles,called it a night.drove the car to work at 6:30 am car was running a little rough but not bad took off early from work to put the rest of the car together worked till 2:00 am got back up at 6:00am to go to the car craft show drove there in the pouring rain no wipers no defrost pulled in and passed out in the front seat.just think this is what I do for fun.lol. by the time I was almost home the car was running really bad sputtering, backfiring got home and starting checking grounds,connectors ect.I was stumpped car calls me up a about 11:30 and tells me to check the plug wires he noticed that some were hitting on the headers they were all wrapped in fiberglass insulating sleaves. wow 5 out of eight plug wires were completly fried!! now its after midnight and I have no plug wires. What to do ? go out and rob them off my truck double wrap them and tied them up.Wow what a difference 8 cylinders makes! car runs great.life is good seams like it all worth it now.
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[lsx80monte]

Just saw the new popular hotrodding issue and youre one of the 20 home project cars that they chose. Congrats!

[FRENCHBLUE72]

Congrats I been away a awhile and she is looking good..

[E.rodz]

Really nice work. I have a 62 impala 4door sedan thatis waiting its turn to get the ls treatment. One thing I was wondering is if you will have enough air flow for the condensor sandwiched in the middle of the intercooler and the rad. I can tell you that when you run the a/c, the condensor needs some instant air running through it especially if the car is not moving like in traffic. The high side pressure rises very quickly and cooling can be dramatically hindered. still not sure about this one yet no a/c lines hooked up yet but soon enough I will let you know if it works.I hope so because there is no other options here.cross your fingers!


Just saw the new popular hotrodding issue and youre one of the 20 home project cars that they chose. Congrats! Thanks just got a chance to check it out myself.hope to get some features out sooner or later.just feels good to drive it again! more to come soon so stay tuned!


Congrats I been away a awhile and she is looking good..

Thanks for the kind words hope to get some miles on it this week and work some bugs out. stay tuned for more turbo madness.

[E.rodz]

Here is a little video that we made please let me know what you think. Good or bad let me know what we should do differently.Opinions wanted.
http://youtu.be/QTV_bOm3zUA
how do you imbed?

[bonecrrusher]

it will be <video> </video> or something like that.

[CruizinKev]

here you go:


QTV_bOm3zUA

and it'll look like this:

QTV_bOm3zUA

[E.rodz]

thanks Kevin much appriecated.

[E.rodz]

Here is the test drive video hope to get some more seat time in soon . just trying to work out some bugs yet working like a dog at my reg. job,bldg. patio for my bro.there just is not enough hrs in a day.
http://youtu.be/CJ1wy3nRnbU
still can't figure out how this embed thing works.how do you do this? any help would be great.

[CruizinKev]

just copy the code of your youtube video CJ1wy3nRnbU and put it between the "YT- code" just like that:


CJ1wy3nRnbU

just copy the text in the frame above and post it and you'll get it like this:

CJ1wy3nRnbU

:twothumbs :cheers:

[lsx80monte]

Great video, and great choice of music. Skrillex is tha ****!

[E.rodz]

just copy the code of your youtube video



:twothumbs :cheers: Thanks again Kevin much appreiciated.


Great video, and great choice of music. Skrillex is tha ****!
Thanks for the interest and the comments.stay tuned for more turbo madness.

[E.rodz]

It has been just nuts this summer is almost gone in the blink of an eye. Been getting the car dialed it a bit changed tranny cooler and fabbed up new lines for the air ride system.Been working with Carl of CJ. tunes setting up the tune of the motor and tranny.. So far besides the little bugs I can not be happier.Currently working on a 2 stage nos. system for carls car.Hope to get to the drag strip in a couple of weeks to see what this big boat can do!!
any guesses on what she will do in the quarter????? 12# of boost on pump gas.

[E.rodz]

What not even one guess? come on guys lets here some guesses on what this big old boat can do in the 1/8 and qtr. mile.the plan is to tow the camper trailer there go racing and pull the trailer home this time.lol. we tried that last time road racing in brainerd but the rear end went out and had to have it towed home so hopefully this will not be the case this time. stay tuned in and PLEASE POST UP SOME GUESSES.

[craigs73]

seen your other thread.....reminded me of this one...im going to guess high 11s with the weight

[E.rodz]

sorry forgot to post up a day at the drag strip. Please don't be afraid to tell me how you really feel good or bad your input is welcome here!
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why does every forum have to be so different. how the heck do I imbed video???

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[protouringorprostreet]

All wheel drive

[E.rodz]

All wheel drive
man I like thinking like that! out of the box thats what I am talking about!

[E.rodz]

Wow I guess winter just finally let its grip off of us in MN.got the belair out for a drive today and started my new list of things to do! I will keep you posted of the changes coming up.
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[srh3trinity]

The car is cool, i am sure I have said that before. What is going on with the metal working tools and the door behind the car? Hard to tell from the pictures, but it looks like a cool shop.

[E.rodz]

The car is cool, i am sure I have said that before. What is going on with the metal working tools and the door behind the car? Hard to tell from the pictures, but it looks like a cool shop.

thanks for the interest and the coments. the car still has a long ways to go just started doing some upgrades to the car hope to have it back on the road in the next couple of weeks. the metal working tools behind the car is a contraption that I have been woorking on for years hope to finish it this fall.go on my link to Garage journal I have a garage thread about the stuff on there.stay tuned for more.

[E.rodz]

Looks like this is the new task at hand! just think I paid someone to do this yikes! what a fricking mess to say the least. ordered up a new wire harness from Ron francis wire works I have had another one in my truck and made the mistake of buying a pos. cheap harness and now paying the ultiment price! also going to upgrade the dash to a vhx series dash,new steering coulmn,steering wheel.all this in a couple of weeks! wish me luck I could use it!

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[E.rodz]

this is how things can go aray the as long as were here things start happening like as long as were here we might as well paint the dash requiring extensive masking inside and out.

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[68400BIRD]

Hurry up, it's next week. LOL

[E.rodz]

Hurry up, it's next week. LOL

I did not even see you out there? lol. it could have been that my eyes were not open either. that was way to intense apperently the body can go on three hrs. of sleep for about a week before it has enough and wants to crash.lol. hope to see you and your car at car craft next weekend!

[E.rodz]

ended up painting the dash,trim parts a flat black to cut down on the glare a bit and well this is were things can kick your ass the flat additive in the clear worked on half the stuff but not all of it some of it turned out shiny as can be??????? why I have no idea so ended up wet sanding everything and leaving it that way, Then thoughts about as long as I am here we might as well mount up the vintage air unit and paint the firewall and floorsoh and the door pannels look like crap a different color so we might as well paint those to ect ect.

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[E.rodz]

after a month of hell and taking on way more than i should have the Dakota Digital dash is in and done,the Ron Francis wire Harness kit is in and done,the dash is painted,the door pannels are dyed and some carpet and firewall insulation done,also the vintage air unit is installed, and it is on the road again!

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Made it to back to the fifties on sat morning with 2 hrs of sleep still had a great time and it was great to see alot of old friends!

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[E.rodz]

wow were does the time go. we have been just pounding on the miles on the belair since back to the fifties. The Ron Francis wire works rewire job went great,as well as the Dakota Digital dash it is all programed in and ready for action,installed the vintage air unit under the dash and still have to hook up the hoses and the controler but it has been about time to go out and drive it!
Almost forgot we also installed some new Viking performance shocks dual adjustable rebuildable shocks!
what a difference they made!

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here is what we did to the car to tow the camper trailer to the races.lol.clamp on trailer [sport models]
and made use of a old ski rack that someone left in the shed when I moved in.

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next stop power cruise USA. Brainerd Mn. drag racing,road racing and camping!

[Mustard_N_Catchup]

I just read your whole build thread and I love it and the Bel air! As mentioned earlier, suicide the rear doors, give it a hard top treatment, like the sport sedan 4dr hardtop, and take 3" out of the roof. I don't have any more ideas for the car, but I got a few for the camper you tow behind it.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/08/2ailwtj-1.jpg
63 Impala sport sedan 4dr hard top.

[E.rodz]

I just read your whole build thread and I love it and the Bel air! As mentioned earlier, suicide the rear doors, give it a hard top treatment, like the sport sedan 4dr hardtop, and take 3" out of the roof. I don't have any more ideas for the car, but I got a few for the camper you tow behind it.

63 Impala sport sedan 4dr hard top.

Thanks for taking interest in the build and your input as well as the cool picture! I have some great ideas for a camper trailer to! stay tuned in for more changes to come!

[E.rodz]

Here was my pit crew for the weekend. it is always good to have batman on your side!

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[Mustard_N_Catchup]

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Heres an idea for a front splitter and grill to protect you intercoolers. Yes, I know it's a 62, but the idea will transfer over to a 63. I've been looking at it pretty hard, using 63 bumpers.

[AusMarty]

Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude.
That's sick.
Make your bumper like that!

[bonecrrusher]

Is that last pic in your post from the Power Cruise?

[E.rodz]

Lol. I have followed this build and love this car. some really cool body mods and carbon fiber under the hood. I like the way you think because this is the direction we are going! if I remember his name is Tom and he does cad work.great guy! thanks for your input I love it!
[QUOTE=AusMarty;1010870]Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude.
That's sick.
Make your bumper like that! I agree I love thinkin like this keep following there are some big changes coming!


Is that last pic in your post from the Power Cruise? yes the last pict. that I posted is from the power cruise. This is the second time going to this event and it is a blast! I have some great video from the event that I will post up soon.so stay tuned!

[E.rodz]

here is a little video that we put together right before Back to the fifties stepping through the changes to come.


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[yt/]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpFJLjEuj9A&list=UU-9E9rfu4uzswVrg-Mp8w0A[yt]

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[Motown 454]

Glad to see you got the car out.

[snappytravis]

I was just telling somebody today about your car, I looked at a ton of cars at the carcraft nationals, and yours was definitely one of a kind, I was scratching my head at first with all the writing on it, Then I realized how many people have got a kick out of that, Might hit you up later for some turbo advice,

[E.rodz]

Glad to see you got the car out.
Thanks Wayne it has just been a blast getting to drive the hell out of this thing looks like it is due for some new tires already . hoping to do more next year with it but going to jump back on the chevelle for the winter. hope everything is going well for you!

I was just telling somebody today about your car, I looked at a ton of cars at the carcraft nationals, and yours was definitely one of a kind, I was scratching my head at first with all the writing on it, Then I realized how many people have got a kick out of that, Might hit you up later for some turbo advice, sorry for the delay in responding just overwhelmed with way to much going on feel free to hit me up for some turbo advice I have been learning a lot and I will share what I have learned with you.The signatures on the car really have some great stories with it the biggest thing I love about it is not caring about door dings and scratches and just being able to drive it everywhere without concern. All of that will change but for now I just want to drive it!

[E.rodz]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCfL44QduII&amp;feature=c4-overview&amp;list=UU-9E9rfu4uzswVrg-Mp8w0A
UU-9E9rfu4uzswVrg-Mp8w0AHere is a little video that we put together for Back to the fifties 2013 it is such a cool show it has over 12,000 registered car at this event and vendors galore! it is one of my favorite shows ever going here thrashing like mad to get the Ron Francis wire harness kit installed,Dakota digital dash installed,new steering column and billet specialties wheel,viking performance shocks in was a bitt much do do in this short time frame but we did it running on only 3 hrs of sleep per night and still working my fulltime job proved challenging but we finished the car at 5 am. sat morning enduring a wicked thunder storm fri night getting over 6 inches of rain! and trees down everywhere !! here is some of the footage I took

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[E.rodz]

wow I really don't know how time can go this fast.put on over 2,500 miles this summer 3 camping trips with it and some sweet road trips .almost time to put it away for the winter. ;(

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[FRENCHBLUE72]

Whats up with the camaro in the garage..

[E.rodz]

Whats up with the camaro in the garage..
No camaro here this is my favorite car in the stable I just bought a c5 vette to use the front and the rear suspension+ trans . I felt bad about parting the car but I would take this body style any day over a c5 even though I love that body style too. apparently I have an addiction!LOL.

[E.rodz]

This year was a blast with the Belair I love twin turbos and drivability it is a great combination ! lots more to come with this story but not till spring then big changes before the power tour. but this winter is going to be time to really kick some azz on the Chevelle .
this seasons antics with the Belair video we through together so check it out and stay tuned for more big changes to come.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AT3UMOa0_40

[68400BIRD]

Great video. What did the car run in the 1/8 or 1/4??? More updates coming again next year? Will this car ever be done. LOL
When does the 68 get some attention?

[E.rodz]

Great video. What did the car run in the 1/8 or 1/4??? More updates coming again next year? Will this car ever be done. LOL
When does the 68 get some attention?
the only time I had it to the track it ran a 12.3 best on pump gas 13# of boost the convertor is really holding it back bad my best 60 foot times were 2.3 after 30 ft the car really comes alive with a little more stall it would be in the high 11's on pump gas not bad for a big old boat. going on the power tour this year with it and there will be some big changes come spring. for now just going like crazy on the chevelle. you being a firebird owner should know it is NOT a 68 but this one is going to be awhile before I can get back to this one.this one is my favorite and I really want to keep this one!

[68400BIRD]

Ooops I did not see the wing windows. But I knew it was not a Camaro. LOL There is so much going on in your garage that it is hard to concentrate.

[E.rodz]

Ooops I did not see the wing windows. But I knew it was not a Camaro. LOL There is so much going on in your garage that it is hard to concentrate.

lol. Rob I still needed to give you a little crap about that! hope your car is going to be on the road this spring.looking forward to seeing it!

[E.rodz]

oh it has been a while since the last update and I had to put the Chevelle on stand by .Time to change things up a bit really sick of the really ugly paint and the sharpie marker is really getting old but I have been enjoying the ride so much I just want to keep driving it so new tires and wheels or used wheels and new tires were in order so I picked up some tsw. wheels that had some curb rash and someone gave me a fair price for the slightly used. tis is what the looked like.https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/05/IMAG4342_zps25e131f0-1.jpg (http://s643.photobucket.com/user/erodz/media/63%20belair%20build/IMAG4342_zps25e131f0.jpg.html)

decided to make some center caps to make them a bit different.
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just never would have guessed that it would have taking days to get all the curb rash out.

[68400BIRD]

lol. Rob I still needed to give you a little crap about that! hope your car is going to be on the road this spring.looking forward to seeing it!
LOL Not a problem. I would call you out if you did the same thing. My car will be at Car Craft. The new used rims look great on there.

[E.rodz]

LOL Not a problem. I would call you out if you did the same thing. My car will be at Car Craft. The new used rims look great on there.
AWESOME! can't wait to see it there in a couple of weeks! I will be entering the real street eliminator again so hope to see you there.!

[E.rodz]

I don't know what happened? i guess i completely forgot about this thread.big changes coming this spring! it has been just f-n nuts this whole summer but was still able to put on over 3,000 more miles on the car and I could not be happier with the way it is set up now. Road racing,auto crossing,drag racing and be able to pull a camper with the whole family too! here is a little recap for this last summers adventures.
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ended up throwing it on the dyno at Car craft nationals for the real street eliminator comp.2nd on the dyno and 4th overall.not bad for a car twice the size as everyone else's car.lol
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[Motown 454]

Holly crap Nice numbers!!

[E.rodz]

Holly crap Nice numbers!!

lol. if you would of told me when I started building the car with goals of having 400hp. to the wheels and getting 20mpg. that this was possible 624 rear wheel hp. and 16mpg. pulling a camper trailer and be able to compete in autocross as well as road racing and drag racing.then hook the camper back up and drive home with the air on I would have laughed at you and called you an idiot.I LOVE TURBOS! Just think it is still got more left untapped yet.it is only at 14# of boost looking to bring it up to about 18#after some tuning hurdles hoping to bring it up to about 750rwhp. and still have a reliable ride!

[Motown 454]

Sweet!

[E.rodz]

Sweet!
thanks Buddy got lots of changes to come for this spring so stay tuned for more.

[CTX-SLPR]

I might have missed it but do you have any pictures of the finished frame reinforcement?

Thanks,

[Motown 454]

Will do!

[E.rodz]

I might have missed it but do you have any pictures of the finished frame reinforcement?

Thanks, picts are on page 1and 2 I can not seem to find the other picts as of now.

[64impala]

She's a true street machine!!! Can't wait to get my 64 belair on the road this summer. Your build is truly inspiring....

Nathan

[E.rodz]

She's a true street machine!!! Can't wait to get my 64 belair on the road this summer. Your build is truly inspiring....

Nathan

Thanks for the interest on my project .hoping to make so big changes soon so stay tuned in.

[E.rodz]

making some upgrades on the Belair hoping to get it done before the power tour! new Transmission,converter, A arms,Brake rotors,calipers,wiper motor,shock and swaybar mounts and lots more!

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[E.rodz]

made some more modifications to the brakes on the Belair. bought the ctsv. calipers years ago for the Firebird and decided to make them work on the Belair 14" R1 CONCEPT rotors wow what a big difference! the caliper brackets were not so fun to make though!

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[E.rodz]

pushed like hell early this summer to get the Belair back on the road for the power tour only was able to go for a couple of days after getting the car back together at 3 am. leaving at 6:30 am. with 4 cars going and all my friends backed out last minute but we went anyways. just myself my wife and one son. thank god everything went well Madison to Champagne Il.even got to go auto crossing with only a minor transmission linkage issue. made a couple of laps then drove to Champagne in a absolute down pour rain storm for 4 hrs. good thing I installed wipers on the car right before we left!! The Newport engineering wiper kit worked awesome! here is a little video clip of the autocross in Madison.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9XiFNvaebQ

[E.rodz]

had a awesome summer with the Belair putting on about 5,000 miles on it and the only a couple minor issues with it. went on this with some friends and drove over 780 miles round trip and raced at 3 tracks in 3 states and finally got the car in the 11's with 350# in the trunk to get some traction.

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woops!!!
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[Motown 454]

Glad to hear summer was a success and you got to enjoy the car.

[E.rodz]

looks like my itch to change things up are never ending! after long conversations with Ron Sutton and taking his workshop last year i decided to try to upgrade the front grip and steering on this big boat so as my plan is now cut the shock mounts that i put on last year,and gut everything that will hinder the fitment of some 285/35/20's in the front as well as the rear. going like mad to get it back together for the street machine nationals this weekend!

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[E.rodz]

summer has gone by in a blur racking on some miles on the Belair and while pulling the camper a transmission cooler line let go and smoked my transmission :( so looks like the trans gets pulled again! but on a good note the upgrades on the front shocks and a 285 35 20 tires on the front really helped on the autocross!

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[E.rodz]

well we got the transmission back in and got about 1000 miles on it before our drag weekend with friends from ONE GUYS GARAGE . the whole event is structured like hot rod drag week you have to drive your car the whole trip in my case it was 850 miles round trip raced at 3 different tracks Great lakes dragways in Union grove Wisc.,then Byron Il.dragway,and last Tri states dragway in Earlville Iowa, then road trip home. we made it the whole trip with only a couple hiccups. on e of the idler pulley's bearings locked up and welded to the bolt however we were able to reroute the belt eliminate one idler and hay bale it back together to make a couple of last passes to secure the win for the 11.5 no rollcage class.! that was just a bonus the best part of the trip is the time with my wife and having fun with great friends and meeting new ones! used drag radials this time the 20's did not work so good last year! here are some picts. from the event.

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[E.rodz]

headed to the hot rod power tour. this will be this old girls third power tour all on the same power train boosted since 08 over 24,000 miles on it now and have never had a car that i had this much fun with! drive your cars people! it is a ton of fun. hope to see you guys there.

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