Cited for breaking traction...Really?

[badazz81z28]

Yup, got rolled today for breaking traction. What the heck does that really mean? So my tires chirp taking off, anyone else here cited for a lame reason to pull someone over?

[Van B]

Got a warning once for unnecessary acceleration. That seems more like an opinion to me.

[Yelcamino]

Got a warning once for unnecessary acceleration. That seems more like an opinion to me.

That is DEFINATELY an opinion! lol

[Blown73]

I have been pulled over for scratching 2nd gear, but never cited. The police must be bored if they are pulling people over for that kind of junk.

[Blown73]

Or, low on their quota :)

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

those are called BullShet tickets.. oh well.. charge it to the game.

[daytonayellaz]

LOL... I was stopped and received a warning for "Degrading Tires" I thought it was pretty lame.

[mc84_zz4]

It's just their way of printing money, by aggressivle ticketing all drivers...
:machine:
It is still far cheaper than exhibition of speed, or racing..
Sometimes you may check with the prosecutor, they could swap that for a non moving violation, it will still cost you $, but does not get to your insurance Co., and no points...

[workbenchracer]

Got pulled over for excessive acceleration (spinning tires) when I did not. Was running a 3500 stall converter and the guy heard the engine rev up when I left a stop. He was writing the ticket and I said, "If your going to write me a ticket for spinning my tires, at least let me go out and earn it." Ended up the cop stopped writing the ticket and let me off.

[Damn True]

In CA they call it "Display of Speed".....I was 18

[Patrick]

Been there, done that. In Florida they now tie that into "Street Racing" which is a criminal offense and carries a MANDATORY 1 year driving suspension. Cost me a bunch of money to get out of it....

[BuzzKillian]

It's an "anti-noise violation" here... Oh, and the city has banned "cruising", but thats a another subject.

[Huzzah!]

My older brother spent a night in jail for arguing with a cop about a friends car that chirped tires when he put the car in drive. All this happened on private property too.

[Chevrolaine]

I wouldn't worry about it, til they cite you for breaking wind!:moon:

People get it all the time around here for "squealing tires".:6gears:

[Van B]

Got a warning once for unnecessary acceleration. That seems more like an opinion to me.

I was leaving a cruise night in my dad's 565 ci 65 Vette. I rapped the throttle for maybe 1 second. I swear he came out of the woodwork. When he asked if I knew why he had pulled me over I said "because I'm a dumba$$". He gave me a warning because I was honest with him.

[Chad-1stGen]

In CA they call it "Display of Speed".....I was 18

Actually there are a number of violations they can get you for. Another one, which I've gotten twice is "unsafe start" First time for accelerating too fast. Load 64 C10. The cop even wrote up my speed as 40 in a 45 mph and told me he was aware I wasn't speeding but had accelerated too fast. Second time was for spinning the tires off the line. That time the ticket showed I was doing 25 in a 25 zone...

[MonzaRacer]

Heck Igave cop a chance to get my old yellow Monza to spin a tire, he told me I lit my tires for two city blocks,,,, I got out and told him to get on same road and TRY to break a tire loose, one it was a single track so it it would spin it would have been the right rear only, the tire marks were HALF the width of my tires (figure I had 276/60/15 the marks were about 6 in wide, duh) after cop nearly lost control when car got so good of traction he almost hit his and two other cars as he thought it would get squirrelly and tried t o compensate and pointed it right at his car,, he never bothered me again.

[Slow Ride]

In my younger days I was awarded my citations for "loud or unnecessary use of motor vehicle"

[sokoloka]

Worst I ever got was for "Failing to stop at a red" when I made a 5mph right turn through a stale yellow. Ticket even says 5mph. ~$560 in CA.

[cheapthrillz]

There was a state trooper in our town that drove an unmarked b4c camaro with tinted windows. He'd pull up beside people and rev at them, and then he'd pull them over if they raced away from the stoplights.... lol

[65convertSSl79]

I got one in Lubbock, Texas for "exhibition of speed" the fart can honda that didn't stop accelerating at the speed limit got a much stiffer ticket

[406 Q-ship]

It is "Exhibition of Speed" in California, like the cops that caught me reduced it to "Unsafe Start".

[Zachalanche]

Definitely unfair, but anytime it happens to me, I can't help but think what I have gotten away with. an occasional bogus ticket is peanuts compared to what I would have to pay if I was caught every time I was truly breaking the law.

[cupcar]

Up here in Ontario .... that will lighten your wallet to the tune of 10 Grand ..... they call it " stunting " 50 km over is the same deal . They tow you on the spot and in 7 days you can get your car back ( pay fees fist btw ) , then the legal farce begins .

Ontario Yours to discover .

[Simmo]

We've got "unnecessary acceleration" as well. We've also got "sustained loss of traction". Immediate suspension and impounding for 28days.

Plenty of events, tracks and strips here so no need to get booked :)

[solarguy09]

I had a friend in the early seventies ,that pulled the front end off the ground through the stoplight..A full wheelstand all the way across..

340 Dart pumped to the max with Ladder bars...

I guess the Cop was so blown away, because he wrote, "Impossible and unsafe start"....

My friend went to court and beat the ticket..

The judge asked the Cop, "if it was impossible, then how did he do it"??

You cannot Ticket someone for something "impossible"....

[solarguy09]

There was a state trooper in our town that drove an unmarked b4c camaro with tinted windows. He'd pull up beside people and rev at them, and then he'd pull them over if they raced away from the stoplights.... lol

Remember this.... Our town they have all kinds of unmarked cars....They will bait you in their chargers, ect....

they sit low in the car, and their patch is on their shoulder..Police...

[justin51986]

this is a joke. i'm not trying to be a fun hater or anything, but laws are in a place for a reason. to protect citizens. Break the law, suffer the consequences... this is the main reason that the government is trying to put an end to hot rodding, because people are building these cars to race on closed courses, and that is fine! but then they go and drive like they are on a closed course on public roads and getting other people hurt, and that is why these laws become laws.
you all may think there are "quotas" but look it up, "quotas" are illegal. Police officers do have performance mandates that they must meet, to make sure that they ARE doing their job, but these numbers are so low that they can fill a months worth in a day, therefore they aren't "looking" for reasons to pull you over.
all it takes is maturity on our parts to not give in to an unmarked "bait" car revving up next to us and racing him..
So next time you see in the news or in a magazine that they (the govt.) are trying to shut us all down, think about this thread, and you will see why they are doing what they are doing. We all complain that they are regulating us so much, but it is our own faults. SAVE IT FOR THE TRACK! it's the same reason there are bumper height laws, exhaust laws, lighting laws, etc.

[justin51986]

I've been guilty of it too, I got an "excessive acceleration" ticket and an "illegal exhaust" warning once for taking off too fast, but i didn't complain.....i broke the law and accepted the consequences.

[solarguy09]

this is a joke. i'm not trying to be a fun hater or anything, but laws are in a place for a reason. to protect citizens. Break the law, suffer the consequences... this is the main reason that the government is trying to put an end to hot rodding, because people are building these cars to race on closed courses, and that is fine! but then they go and drive like they are on a closed course on public roads and getting other people hurt, and that is why these laws become laws.
you all may think there are "quotas" but look it up, "quotas" are illegal. Police officers do have performance mandates that they must meet, to make sure that they ARE doing their job, but these numbers are so low that they can fill a months worth in a day, therefore they aren't "looking" for reasons to pull you over.
all it takes is maturity on our parts to not give in to an unmarked "bait" car revving up next to us and racing him..
So next time you see in the news or in a magazine that they (the govt.) are trying to shut us all down, think about this thread, and you will see why they are doing what they are doing. We all complain that they are regulating us so much, but it is our own faults. SAVE IT FOR THE TRACK! it's the same reason there are bumper height laws, exhaust laws, lighting laws, etc.

I agree totally...racing on the street...It is stupid...

but a squeal of the tire is not always dangerous..

But I live in california where DB limit will prevent track racing... People moved near a Race track... They need to Suck it up ....They move next to an Airport and then complain..Whiners, all of them.. But in California... Land of the....never mind...

But no more street racing....Too much to Lose....Not counting the race..

[Pro Stock]

Accerleration is always necessary

[badazz81z28]

this is a joke. i'm not trying to be a fun hater or anything, but laws are in a place for a reason. to protect citizens. Break the law, suffer the consequences... this is the main reason that the government is trying to put an end to hot rodding, because people are building these cars to race on closed courses, and that is fine! but then they go and drive like they are on a closed course on public roads and getting other people hurt, and that is why these laws become laws.
you all may think there are "quotas" but look it up, "quotas" are illegal. Police officers do have performance mandates that they must meet, to make sure that they ARE doing their job, but these numbers are so low that they can fill a months worth in a day, therefore they aren't "looking" for reasons to pull you over.
all it takes is maturity on our parts to not give in to an unmarked "bait" car revving up next to us and racing him..
So next time you see in the news or in a magazine that they (the govt.) are trying to shut us all down, think about this thread, and you will see why they are doing what they are doing. We all complain that they are regulating us so much, but it is our own faults. SAVE IT FOR THE TRACK! it's the same reason there are bumper height laws, exhaust laws, lighting laws, etc.


There is no "cookie cutter" answer, but common sense does prevail. Do you honestly think squeeking the tires is unsafe? Accelerating is very subjective as to what is dangerous or not (as some cars can safely do it). I think there is a distinct difference in wreckless driving vs just using the performance of the car and the laws should know the difference, but I think you are going to the extreme left on this one. If you are doing 10 second passes down the blvd, smoking the tires, going 40 over the limit on the highway, and obviously racing on the streets, yea you are being stupid. There may not be a "quota" but there are some bored A-holes out there. I think provocing street racing is a crime!!!!!, what if you do race, wreck and kill someone, is the cop an accesory??? I bet I wouldnt have been pulled over if I was in a mini-van

[justin51986]

no, i don't think "squeaking the tires" is unsafe, but they can't in any way make a gage on how much the tires squeaked, therefore, make it any level of "squeaking"....that does away with any doubt (lawsuits), i'm not trying to take the law's side, but i just get sick of hearing people complain about cops when all they are doing is their jobs. and tired of hearing people complain about getting in trouble WHEN THEY BREAK THE LAW....

[justin51986]

and the ordeal about the cops provoking a race....that is in no way a crime what law is the officer breaking by sitting at a stop light, and if there is no DB limit on exhaust in that area, then he can rack on his pipes all he wants to. the crime is giving in and racing him...if he pulls up to you, and creeps up a little or revs a little, there is no reason that you HAVE to race him. just swallow your pride and follow the law and don't race

[solarguy09]

and the ordeal about the cops provoking a race....that is in no way a crime what law is the officer breaking by sitting at a stop light, and if there is no DB limit on exhaust in that area, then he can rack on his pipes all he wants to. the crime is giving in and racing him...if he pulls up to you, and creeps up a little or revs a little, there is no reason that you HAVE to race him. just swallow your pride and follow the law and don't race
First, I love my Local Cops and the Job they do..

But .... Please, the cop is baiting you, I have seen it....No I don't buy into it, because retired at 51 by choice, with a lifetime's wealth sitting in my hands, NO I won't take the bait...Because I can afford track time , any time I want... Swallowing my pride is easy..

So in the end, He has lost the race that he wanted to provoke...

And I did not even have to race HIM, or YOU, or anyone else....


So, NO the Cop, or the regular guy, is committing no crime in Baiting me......... I am committing no crime, by going to the track.

Chirp, chirp...

[JRouche]

Interesting posts.... Some good points.

Yeah, hard to spend time building a car up and NOT being able to "check it out". But? Its usually done in the wrong area (where other people are). Im pretty sure there are remote streets for most folks here. Thats when you use the go pedal and check the car out. Otherwise you are just trying to gain attention (which is NOT a bad thing, look at the cars we drive!!).

But...? You did get some attention. Just more than you were looking for. So? Now its a sweet talk to a smaller or no ticket. Or a bad tude cause you got pulled over? That part is up to YOU. And Im NOT saying kissing anyone's hole.

But I am saying you should own up to it and show a lil regret. VS a discussion on why it was ok or how you were in control or my car just drives like this or the very LONG list of excuses. There are many Cops that are car guys. They have been there and done that. And lemme say. I still got a lil freaked out when I got pulled over last (no front plate on my honda daily driver). And Im a retired LA County Dep (20 years). No one likes to get pulled over, it SUCKS!!!

Own up to your driving. We all KNOW our cars. When you break the tires loose and draw attention to yourself it was on purpose. Even if the cops were not there most of the other people around will think you are a pimply 16 year old with his first car at the same time thinking he will wreck it in under six months. JR

[Zanie]

dang! I had a funny story, but this got all serious.

[CreepinDeth]

Breaking traction is a bullsh** chickensh** ticket IMHO.

People drive V8's with alot of torque and they can break traction these days pretty easily.
That's a ticket for a tuner or ricer with a 4 banger where torque isn't existent.

I can see being written up for full acceleration out of a stoplight and layin rubber down,
But ...."breaking traction" is a BS ticket.....period. I'd be in court fighting it unless I
was laying down a rubber signature and deserved it.


you all may think there are "quotas" but look it up, "quotas" are illegal. Police officers do have performance mandates that they must meet, to make sure that they ARE doing their job,

Semantics.
"Quota's" or "performance mandates" = Samething.

[CnLRudzinski]

Did the same thing here in Michigan at the St. Ignace car show up in the Upper Peninsula, and they called it "excessive noise". I attempted to argue the ticket ( $85 fine and no points) because while I was indeed smoking the tires they weren't "squealing", and I had a stock exhaust, so it was VERY quiet. The car was a 1985 Lincoln Mark VII LSC. Anyways, when I got to the courthouse and in front of the magistrate, he said alright I definitely had the right to fight the ticket, but if I chose to do so, they would bring the ticket up to "reckless driving" and "endangerment" total of $1,500 in fines,30 days jail and 12 points... I paid my $85 and left St Ignace FAST, well under the speed limit anyways, lol!!

[solarguy09]

Interesting posts.... Some good points.

Yeah, hard to spend time building a car up and NOT being able to "check it out". But? Its usually done in the wrong area (where other people are). Im pretty sure there are remote streets for most folks here. Thats when you use the go pedal and check the car out. Otherwise you are just trying to gain attention (which is NOT a bad thing, look at the cars we drive!!).

But...? You did get some attention. Just more than you were looking for. So? Now its a sweet talk to a smaller or no ticket. Or a bad tude cause you got pulled over? That part is up to YOU. And Im NOT saying kissing anyone's hole.

But I am saying you should own up to it and show a lil regret. VS a discussion on why it was ok or how you were in control or my car just drives like this or the very LONG list of excuses. There are many Cops that are car guys. They have been there and done that. And lemme say. I still got a lil freaked out when I got pulled over last (no front plate on my honda daily driver). And Im a retired LA County Dep (20 years). No one likes to get pulled over, it SUCKS!!!

Own up to your driving. We all KNOW our cars. When you break the tires loose and draw attention to yourself it was on purpose. Even if the cops were not there most of the other people around will think you are a pimply 16 year old with his first car at the same time thinking he will wreck it in under six months. JR

Great post... I drive many miles to get to my "testing spots"..

And if you check my thread, you will find I went out very early on a sunday, went and did my low speed businees, and cruised many miles home..

And Guess Fing what ???? A new Charger was baiting me at 70mph on the highway...Beeping his horn, waving his driving gloved hand out the window, side by side, asking if i wanted some ?,

I don't street race.. I almost had to do a hard exit to get rid of him... Believe me, with my new upgrades, he would never keep up..

But we can't do it if we have a Brain, and self control.

I will admit, i did do testing on a public road, but only i was at risk... And the troll on the highway, i never even thought he might be CHP, I just thought he was, and is a fool.

[BulldawgMusclecars]

Bait cars for street racing? Really? I guess those departments are in areas with no real crime, if they have time to try to entrap someone for "street racing". They know where the real street racers are in every town...anybody can tell you...but they have time to pick on some guy on the interstate in his late model musclecar? I'm not excusing those who take the bait, but thats BS. Obviously, the only real goal there is revenue for the department.

[justin51986]

revenue for the department? HA! taxes buddy. people complain about cops, but then they complain when the cops don't get to them fast enough when they need them. individual departments rarely see money from traffic stops, that is sent to the state. taxes pay for local funding