67 Camaro - Need Suggestions fror 4 wheel Disk Kit

[67camerri]

I recently pulled an older "big brake kit" (probably 7 yeas old) off of the car as i had nothing but issues. I want to upgrade to a Wildwood set up but need some advice.

1 - what is a good set up for a street car with a decent "pro-touring" suspension (QA1, Hotchkiss) I don’t need a race set up but i want something that will perform and look good at a fair price
2 - vacuum, one of my issues with the old set up was vacuum (my motor does not create much) - who do i deal with this?
3 - wheels and tires - i am also in the process of swapping out my old W/T set up - suggestions on size disks for 18" wheels? what if i go with a set of stock rally's?

Thanks in advance

[MonzaRacer]

OK so first of all if your looking to do big brakes, think about what your going to do with it.
If you track it a lot you might want to think about some big aftermarket brakes(expensive).
BUT if you are going to only do autocross, limited road course, check out Kore3 and the use of C5/C6 Corvette brakes.
Now one of the big disadvantages of those are you do have to step up to 17 or 18 in wheels(fitment templates on their website, print/cut/measure). As for me I am going 18 wheels on my Caprice (What If,,,?) and intend to use the C6 Z06 14 in rotors and calipers since found out Hawk makes a one piece pad to replace the little multiple padlets(?) thats someone elses name for them.
But in back you can use second Gen S10 rear disc brakes to still clear 15 in wheels OR simply go with the Corvette stuff and use repro 18" ralleys
Look same but you get bigger, stickier tires.
Kore 3 also has a hybrid setup I believe clears 15 in wheels but if you get big brakes then you need big sticky tires too, so why cut your self short. I also found a place online you can get repro Corvette wheels in 17s, 18s, 19s pretty reasonable and found place that has UP TOO 3 in wheels adapter/spacers,,and they are good quality, a friend bought a pair and he is running a healthy bbc.
Kore 3 big brake link: http://www.kore3.com/products.php?cat=11
Finishline wheels link : http://www.finishlinewheels.com/specials/1,CHEVY+CORVETTE/
EZ wheel Adapters link: http://www.ezaccessory.com/Wheel_Adapter_5_Lug_4_75_To_5_Lug_4_75_p/5475-5475c.htm

As for no vacuum the big Vette brakes, S10 rear disc, and a properly sized master cylinder and good adjustable prop valve should give you all the braking power you need.
This is not to say Wilwood is bad,,just uber expensive compared to Corvette stuff and if you decide to go Vette think about it in a pinch a Chevy dealer should be able to source most parts!
And you can got from 325 mm rotor, 340 mm, or huge by large 355mm(me likey this one if it will fit!). 325s fit most 17 in wheels so this is what my Monza is getting but since I saw Schwartz Performance 82 Caddy from 2002 Car Craft RSE I want to do big car, big engine, big brakes, big wheels,,,ie 18 Corvette wheels and big dog Corvette brakes,,,still debating between the Vette and S10 rear disc on Caprice, but will definitely be on Monza as its 17 in only car.
But if you down road decide to move up to an ATS spindle then you can still use Corvette stuff as its based on it. Wilwood you might have to buy more parts again.
And how many Wilwood dealers you see on the local parts corner? Been down that road back when they kept changing parts design long time ago,,,, couldnt get new seals for calipers so thye were junk till guy found some somewhere and bought old calipers from me. Not something I want to go through again.
Call Tobin at Kore3 or PM Apogee here on Pro-Touring.com, he is around on this section a lot. Or click Kore 3 tag at side of page!
Good Luck and if you need any help just ask.

[Apogee]

Lee gave you lots to think about, but it would certainly help to know a little more about how you intend to use your car and what your definition is of a "fair price". When I look at brakes I try to consider the highest value kits as these are the kits that offer the most performance for the lowest cost, so the highest bang-for-the-buck. Larger rotors generally means more brake capacity and higher performance, but only up to a point since they are rotational weight, so there's a balance between too big and not big enough.

Wilwood makes everything from go-cart to race car brakes which can range from a beer to champagne budget. Prodigy offers a complete Wilwood G-machine package starting at $1800 and going up from there depending on the options you choose. This might be a good option for you if you want to stick with 15" wheels and don't want to run the OEM disc/drum configuration. Larger brake kits will require larger wheels and this would include the C5/C6 options as well as any of the larger Wilwood Superlite or W6A type kits.

As with most things, performance is not the only consideration as aesthetics often play a role in brake selection. That being as subjective as it is, there is no shortage of options out there to choose from.

HTH,
Tobin
KORE3

[MonzaRacer]

Now as for suspension bang for the buck look at Ridetech, I had air ride, looking at coilride for my Monza and there are so many choices. Air gives you adjustability over plain springs and shocks, Coilride from Ridetech gives you height adjustabilitiy and depending on how high up on food chain you run with their shock you get multiple modes of adjustment.
Ive driven couple of cars with Ridetech stuff and had air ride on my 71 Monte,,,,I just can brag enough. Heck my 84 Caprice will be CoolRide all around.
My Monza to start will use CoilRide in front, CoolRide in back then up grade later to ShockWaves up front first then as I get parts built switch to air ride.
My reasons are I have had better service and luck from Ridetech than any other company so far and they are local to me so I tend to keep more services local.
And I KNOW how well it works.
Others,,well when they make blanket statements then get proven wrong,,,well I just like keeping things local too.

[MuscleRodz]

bang for buck, call tobin, get his c6 kit front and rear, service anywhere. no vaccum, you need a hydroboost and new master. wheels, completely on your own there on what you like personally. just need to make sure the wheels you pick have plenty of hub pad to clear big calipers

[MCB Matt]

Pm or give us a call, we can set you up right.....we have many brands

Matt

[piratebaseball]

I went with the wilwood disc brake kit and the fronts will not mount up to the ridetech spindles and seal on the hub. Until they come to a conclusion I'd be weary of that combo

[67rally]

I have a Wilwood setup on my '67. 12" drilled/slotted fronts with 6 piston Dynapros, and just added the 12" drilled/slotted rears with 4 piston Dynapros behind 18" wheels.

The brakes work great, but 12" looks a little small behind an 18" wheel. The 13" kit would look even better, but adds another $900 just for the fronts, or an extra $1,800 for front and rear.

[cheapthrillz]

My car has 18's and I got the Upgraded C6 Z51 kit from Tobin. As far as rotor size and apperance go, the 13.4 inch front and 13 inch rear fill up an 18" wheel very nicely.

Look into the Kore3 kits. Affordable. Look good. OEM parts. Great performance. And excellent customer service and knowledge base. Tobin knows his ****...