A little slice of P-T heaven...

[exwestracer]

Just a few guys having fun in the park...it'll take you 1 min 02 sec to figure out they're not foolin around!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=94zWD5pdvIk

WARNING-Contains:

Ford vs Chevy
Crazy Aussies
The world's most beautiful race track
One BAD fast 4 door
What's not to like?:cool:

[RS_Customs]

Dang, that looks like so much fun! Wish something like that would come through this area.

Robert

[mattdirocz]

Sweet looks like it would a fun time. Even if you were just there watching.

[rfalker1]

that was great!!! I needed that ;)

[Rod]

now that looks like fun!!!! pack up our cars boys were going racing in OZ

[Jeff70]

Nice.....

How would a vintage spec car stack up against say Red Devil?

[kawaden]

It's a historic racing series so there are a lot of rules and restrictions but these cars are well developed and as you can see they like to drive them. I think a full tilt PT car on slicks would give them a run for their money though

[UMI Tech]

That looks like a blast. Modern suspension cars don't look so out of control. Great video!

[exwestracer]

Modern suspension cars don't look so out of control.

And that's kind of sad in a way...

[neki67]

WARNING-Contains:

The world's most beautiful race track

BUT VERY UNFORGIVING RACE TRACK SINCE THERE'S NOT MUCH ROOM FOR ERROR!(Kind of like a short Nürburgring)

And all that in a country with just 7% of the USA population . . . . .

[coolwelder62]

Very,very cool.

[shortrack]

That looks like a blast. Modern suspension cars don't look so out of control. Great video!

I dont know specifically but by the looks of it you'll probably find they're running a bias ply slick, they're not as quick or as durable as a radial but you can hang them out MUCH further and bring them back.....you ever watch any old 80s Nascar footage?....those guys were hung right out all over the track....bias ply tires.....they switched to the more consistent/durable radials and it was a complete new learning experience for the drivers.....been a Cup fan since 1969 and IMO the series lost something when they switched to the radials....just like this stuff with the bias's you could plainly SEE those guys driving the h ell out of those cars!

Great footage!.....I love that old school hung out racing and my track car will be running bias ply slicks.

[WS6]

So what was the badass four door anyway? Great video.

[SparkyRnD]

looked to be a Holden, similar to a Rambler 4 door

I mean wow.....just wow, every second of that race (and the audio) was amazing!

[Flash68]

Wow now that is some vintage racing. Thanks for posting.

[thumpt]

The 4 door was a ford, the track they are racing on is called Bathurst in New south wales.
In october they have a v8 production car race over 1000 kms. It is the most prestigous race you can win here.
The elevation in the track has to be seen to be believed, this race was probably on the under card of the main race.

[LeighP]

The green car is a 1971 Ford Falcon GTHO 351 - worlds fastest production 4 door sedan in 1971. Off the showroom floor they would run off the end of a 140mph speedometer (no fooling - they were that fast).

I figure his tyres went off in the middle of that race as he suddenly lost so much track speed and his car was moving around a lot.

Mt Panorama (the track) at Bathurst is unbelievable.....the drop off the mountain to the long straight (Conrod Straight) is way steeper than it looks on the videos....when you drive it, you can't believe people come down that hill on full throttle. When they are not racing on it, the Mt Panorama track is a public road, anyone can drive on it.

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

my god, the shots...
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/12/tumblr_lwooacb2wy1qgzpbk-1.gif

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/12/tumblr_lq4scj3VmL1qjw7iw-1.gif

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/12/tumblr_lu27a0fOSf1qzgpx9-1.gif




the helicopter overhead shots!!!!!

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/12/tumblr_lm0rfkglr51qii6tmo1_400-1.gif


this has GOT to be one of the best videos ive seen on Youtube..

thank you.. thank you thank you!

[SRD art]

Man that was cool! The track, the speeds, the looseness of the cars, there's some serious pucker factor there, where do I sign up?

Would be cool to see something like that here in the states, is there?

[SRD art]

Another vid- in car. There are a few of these on youtube. Top speed 268 kph = 166 mph. That's groovin'! Wonder how high they rap those motors up to? Are these like the old Trans Am series where they're limited to 5 liters or something?

Camaro gets tagged on the take off...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=0XLcQ6nmzVo


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0i9P7-aHV8&feature=related

[Vegas69]

Makes me want to build a real race car. I really don't think anybody in the PT scene is keeping up with these guys. Having the equipment is one thing, the experience is another, and most importantly, the stones to total it.

The green Ford was to lightly sprung. Awesome stuff!

[greg5436]

Makes me want to build a real race car. I really don't think anybody in the PT scene is keeping up with these guys. Having the equipment is one thing, the experience is another, and most importantly, the stones to total it.

The green Ford was to lightly sprung. Awesome stuff!

Good point you make,after watching the video I thought those guys are bada$$ and there is no way I could do that lap after lap.I am relieved to hear you say that the PT guys are not up to this caliber,so maybe I am not wasting my time building a new track car. Greg

[SRD art]

I'd love to try it but it'd take me a while to get up to their level of aggressiveness. Man would that be fun though...

[shortrack]

Good point you make,after watching the video I thought those guys are bada$$ and there is no way I could do that lap after lap.I am relieved to hear you say that the PT guys are not up to this caliber,so maybe I am not wasting my time building a new track car. Greg

Your not wasting your time, build the car and go as fast as you feel comfortable one step, one outing at a time....you gonna' hop in your just built car and run with those guys without years of previous experience?.....not likely!....on the other hand if you are not content with running at a pace that suits you and your budget and you MUST run up front I 100% guarantee you those guys get out of bed and put their socks on one at a time just like you and me....it can be done.

[Nessumsar]

The "Touring Car Masters" series is about as awesome as it gets, running old cars like they were run back in the day. If I remember correctly, the only items that are updated are the tires (spec Hoosier) and the cage/interior.

There are a couple Youtube channels that post the televised versions of each race.

[neki67]

If I remember correctly, the only items that are updated are the tires (spec Hoosier) and the cage/interior.

From page 8 of 27 2011 Australian Touring Car Masters Series - Sporting and Technical Regulations – Version 3
©Confederation of Australian Motor Sport 2011:
S13.1 Tyre Regulations
(a) Each automobile must only be fitted with Hoosier D.O.T. Radial (dry) tyres, or Hoosier Sports Car Radial Wet (wet) tyres (in compliance with the maximum tyre sizes stated in Appendix B of these regulations and as detailed on the following list:

Dry Tyres
205/60-13 D.O.T. Radial 13"
225/45-13 D.O.T. Radial 13"
225/50-13 D.O.T. Radial 13"
205/50-15 D.O.T. Radial 15"
215/60-15 D.O.T. Radial 15"
225/45-15 D.O.T. Radial 15”
225/50-15 D.O.T. Radial 15"
245/50-15 D.O.T. Radial 15"
275/50-15 D.O.T. Radial 15"
245/50-15 D.O.T. Radial (HC) 15"
275/50-15 D.O.T. Radial (HC) 15"

Wet Tyres
205/60R-13 Sports Car Radial Wet 13"
205/50R-15 Sports Car Radial Wet 15"
225/55R-15 Sports Car Radial Wet 15"
The tyres detailed on the list above must only be supplied by the TCM Series tyre supplier and/or their approved agent :
Hoosier Racing Tire Australia (Max Dumesny Motorsport)

For all the regulations: http://www.camsmanual.com.au/sportregs/2011_Aust_TouringCarMasters_Sport-TechRegs-3.pdf
Some additional data: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touring_Car_Masters

[evostilo]

This is bad ass all the money and history in these cars and they drive em like they have a replacment car in the pit!!

[shortrack]

From page 8 of 27 2011 Australian Touring Car Masters Series - Sporting and Technical Regulations – Version 3
©Confederation of Australian Motor Sport 2011:
S13.1 Tyre Regulations
(a) Each automobile must only be fitted with Hoosier D.O.T. Radial (dry) tyres, or Hoosier Sports Car Radial Wet (wet) tyres (in compliance with the maximum tyre sizes stated in Appendix B of these regulations and as detailed on the following list:

Dry Tyres
205/60-13 D.O.T. Radial 13"
225/45-13 D.O.T. Radial 13"
225/50-13 D.O.T. Radial 13"
205/50-15 D.O.T. Radial 15"
215/60-15 D.O.T. Radial 15"
225/45-15 D.O.T. Radial 15”
225/50-15 D.O.T. Radial 15"
245/50-15 D.O.T. Radial 15"
275/50-15 D.O.T. Radial 15"
245/50-15 D.O.T. Radial (HC) 15"
275/50-15 D.O.T. Radial (HC) 15"

Wet Tyres
205/60R-13 Sports Car Radial Wet 13"
205/50R-15 Sports Car Radial Wet 15"
225/55R-15 Sports Car Radial Wet 15"
The tyres detailed on the list above must only be supplied by the TCM Series tyre supplier and/or their approved agent :
Hoosier Racing Tire Australia (Max Dumesny Motorsport)

Radials.....Well, I stand corrected

[zombiekiller]

The green car is a 1971 Ford Falcon GTHO 351 - worlds fastest production 4 door sedan in 1971. Off the showroom floor they would run off the end of a 140mph speedometer (no fooling - they were that fast).

I figure his tyres went off in the middle of that race as he suddenly lost so much track speed and his car was moving around a lot.

Mt Panorama (the track) at Bathurst is unbelievable.....the drop off the mountain to the long straight (Conrod Straight) is way steeper than it looks on the videos....when you drive it, you can't believe people come down that hill on full throttle. When they are not racing on it, the Mt Panorama track is a public road, anyone can drive on it.

you can thank my late father-in-law for being one of the driving forces ( engineering-wise) for that car. the falcon is the reason that my wife grew up in Australia. Ford shipped the whole family there so he could work on the platform. They only came back for a few years (73-74) , had my wife, then went back in 75, then stayed till 86/87 when they brought him back to the states and into the heavy truck division.

makes me proud!

My next build will be a falcon track monster. woot!

[Erich Bollman]

Awesome!

[68vert]

SWEEET...............!!!! Wheres Mad Max and his blower

[MrQuick]

This is bad ass all the money and history in these cars and they drive em like they have a replacment car in the pit!!

that would be almost correct but the real reason is they are all travelling at haul ass (just short of Ludacris) that there are no serious crashes also take into account that down in that part of the world spins differently than us in the states, metal tends to stay put when crashed together.



Man that was cool! The track, the speeds, the looseness of the cars, there's some serious pucker factor there, where do I sign up?

Would be cool to see something like that here in the states, is there?


quoted from someone whom said in a previous thread of the Aussi racing "these guys are true Touring race drivers that come out to race older cars, not hobbiest that collect old vintage race cars to parade around on a world class track" might have been on C-C.

[Nessumsar]

"these guys are true Touring race drivers that come out to race older cars, not hobbiest that collect old vintage race cars to parade around on a world class track" might have been on C-C.

That pretty much sums it up!

I really hope these guys come to Austin with the Super Car series next year...

[66SuperSport]

I've been to a couple of the vintage weekends at Road America and those are awesome events. Most of the drivers are pretty sane, but there are a few that really hang it out and it is a blast to watch. Some of those guys are running really wicked sounding big blocks making in excess of 700 HP and they do run bias ply tires. Long black tracks out of every corner!

[JEFFTATE]

Look at the pushing and shoving in the beginning of that video .
They're beating up the old cars pretty bad ...
I'm surprised ..

[JEFFTATE]

They have dry sump oil systems , radial tires , upgraded disc brakes ( Things to make them safer and more reliable for race duty )

I remember seeing a video where a vintage Trans Am Series Mustang Boss 302 ( Bud Moore / Parnelli Jones car ) was faster than a bunch of PT cars on a track .
Maybe it was Optima Ultimate Streetcar invitational in 2009 ??

[Flash68]

quoted from someone whom said in a previous thread of the Aussi racing "these guys are true Touring race drivers that come out to race older cars, not hobbiest that collect old vintage race cars to parade around on a world class track" might have been on C-C.

I would say to that comment I just saw 3 trans am cars trade paint and then some at Laguna a few months ago... far from parading.


They have dry sump oil systems , radial tires , upgraded disc brakes ( Things to make them safer and more reliable for race duty )

I remember seeing a video where a vintage Trans Am Series Mustang Boss 302 ( Bud Moore / Parnelli Jones car ) was faster than a bunch of PT cars on a track .
Maybe it was Optima Ultimate Streetcar invitational in 2009 ??

Yep, it was 2009, and it was damn impressive. That was the Pace Car for the event and only 3 cars beat it by the end of the day - 2 full blown PT 69 Camaros and the original Cobra.

[MrQuick]

I would say to that comment I just saw 3 trans am cars trade paint and then some at Laguna a few months ago... far from parading.



no doubt but I was refering to the racing differences in the op's video and the vintage racing in the states... a bit different


http://youtu.be/E_aK-zw5vhA

[Vegas69]

Aussie's look quite a bit faster.

[solarguy09]

Both Video's were Great to watch..

Would love to do that someday..

Got a ways to go on the Car, and my driving....

Great to see the Muscle Cars battle it out...

[SRD art]

Even if they are dedicated race cars and do tag each other on occasion I'd rather see that than an old muscle car rotting away in somebody's side yard and when you ask about it some half toothless 50 year old guy in dirty pants and a wife beater shirt says "no it's not for sale, I'm gonna restore it someday..."