Track Day at Laguna Seca December 31st -- Best deal of the year at this track

[Flash68]

Been watching this one for a couple months. Laguna Seca is usually around $300 or more for a track day, but Dec 30-31 can be had thru NCRC for $179 per day. I am registered for Sat Dec 31 and cannot wait.

Plenty of spots in Open and Point-By, but there are less than 10 spots for Solo (1-7 track days experience) so I registered now.

Would love to have some fellow muscle join me. :thumbsup:

http://www.ncracing.org/events.php

[mpozzi]

If you're going to any track event at Laguna Seca (still can't get myself to say Mazda Raceway), make sure you're under the max sound limit. One warning and then you're done for the day. And the sound Nazi's can go anywhere with their portable sound meter, not just take sound from Turn 5.

Sunds like a fun day ...

Mary Pozzi

[Flash68]

Hey Mary, I know the db limit is 92, but I never heard anyone say they move around the course. Really?

Maybe since it's New Year's Eve they will tolerate a little extra noise. :)

I think Rich told me you've run this track day in recent year(s) past? Was wondering if you or any other locals would be interested in signing up.

[79-TA]

I was looking at that. It sounds like a really good opportunity to run Laguna Seca. I'm making good progress on my Mustang and it will be up and ready by then. Are any other SoCal folks considering a New Year's Laguna Seca road trip?

[mpozzi]

Yes, they have people that take hand-held meters to various spots and can monitor sound. Apparently, there are a few locals that really hate the track, have complained to city higher-ups, and this is what's driving this sound issue. It's new. I got popped for being over by .2.

It used to be that running in a pack of cars around Turn 5 would save you but with their ability to move, you're fair game.

Mary P.



Hey Mary, I know the db limit is 92, but I never heard anyone say they move around the course. Really?

Maybe since it's New Year's Eve they will tolerate a little extra noise. :)

I think Rich told me you've run this track day in recent year(s) past? Was wondering if you or any other locals would be interested in signing up.

[Flash68]

I was looking at that. It sounds like a really good opportunity to run Laguna Seca. I'm making good progress on my Mustang and it will be up and ready by then. Are any other SoCal folks considering a New Year's Laguna Seca road trip?

Brett, it is indeed the best deal of the year money wise to run it. Bring whatever you got if you can. Hope some others decide to join too. If not, that's cool. I do have 1 or 2 Porsche Turbo guys that are supposed to be there.


Yes, they have people that take hand-held meters to various spots and can monitor sound. Apparently, there are a few locals that really hate the track, have complained to city higher-ups, and this is what's driving this sound issue. It's new. I got popped for being over by .2.

It used to be that running in a pack of cars around Turn 5 would save you but with their ability to move, you're fair game.

Mary P.

Thanks for the insight Mary. I guess I will find out when I get there. Hopefully there are some other loud cars to be decoys for me.

[SIK02SS]

I've never heard of "portable" meters around the track. Only the stand.

[mpozzi]

Again ... this is new. The "portability" is from people carrying hand-held meters to various areas outside the track if they think theres a need. If theres a group of cars and they're over sound, thats where the portable meter gets to come out and play. They'll take it to a section where you're under power (exiting turn 6 and 11) and measure from there.

If you plan to track your car at Laguna, make sure it's quiet. Just sayin' ...

Mary P.

[Flash68]

Which car were you popped for .2 over Mary? The 73 with the old motor and full exhaust?

[sgernon]

I would love to run my car there but I definately have to get a set of supertraps for exhaust tips or something like that. Any idea where I could go test the db level of my car?

I was at the track a few months ago interviewing for a job with Skip Barber and Michael Culver's (CEO of Skip Barber) friend took his new GT40 out for a run. The track guys jumped all over Michael for the noise after the car came back. There were only a maybe 30 people there that day and all Skip Barber guys. I would have thought they would have been more lenient but not at all. The Skippy guys said the same thing as Mary, that a few well to do locals really don't like the track and cause big issues.

[mpozzi]

Yep ... the ZZ383 with Magnaflow exhaust. I think most of the "noise" was coming from the intake and not from the exhaust as that system's pretty quiet compared to Flowmasters. I do know Flowmasters probably won't cut it for sound. There's a really good write-up on exhaust and meeting sound for Laguna on the Nor Cal Shelby Club site ... http://www.norcal-saac.org/ot/soundadvice.htm

Mary Pozzi

[Chad-1stGen]

Dave,

There is no way your car is passing this sound limit without mods to the exhuast! Just IMO

[BANKO]

Dave, I'll go just to watch you run & help you in the pits ;-)

[Steve1968LS2]

My car idles at 92db... lol

[Flash68]

Dave,

There is no way your car is passing this sound limit without mods to the exhuast! Just IMO

Chad, that is a sh!tty attitude! LOL


Dave, I'll go just to watch you run & help you in the pits ;-)

Hey thanks for the offer. Come on over and hang out with us.


My car idles at 92db... lol

Steve, I'm not sure if you are joking or not. LOL Bring that SOB up here.... have you ran Laguna yet?

[Steve1968LS2]

Steve, I'm not sure if you are joking or not. LOL Bring that SOB up here.... have you ran Laguna yet?

No, it would be nice to say I did.. but seriously, I'm not sure I would pass the noise deal and I have no idea how to see if I would. Chassis dyno and Db meter?

[mpozzi]

Talked to a SCRAMP Director this morning at our local "Cars and Coffee." Yes to portable sound meters and they take readings from both sides of the track.

Mary Pozzi

[Vegas69]

What a bunch of crap. Another prime example of political correct bull puckey.

[CurtiSS 69]

Laguna is made for PT type cars it is a place where all that wonderful power can get exercised. All those imports will disappear in your mirrors easily, as power is king here.

As far as Laguna exhaust systems -back before my Camaro expired- I ran 2.5" Walker Super Turbos, and was well under the sound limit. I had a sound test done, and past by 4db. For a quick temporary system just put on a set of 3" to 2.5" reducers the Walkers and a set of turndowns.

One other thing...You have 3 trys to get through sound without getting booted. So bring some parts to reduce sound (turndowns, resonators, other mufflers, etc). If you think it is dicey. Run you first session and see how it goes. If you fail, The second session put on some turn-downs and request a sound test, as a sound test does not count against you. If you fail, try pointing the turndowns in differrent directions -towards each other for both sides sound testing-hopefully this will get you through. If not you at least got some driving in rather than an one run and out. For those with Supertrapps this is much easier. Take away plates until it passes.

It would be great to see the PT crew at Laguna.

Regards

CurtiSS 69

[Flash68]

Laguna is made for PT type cars it is a place where all that wonderful power can get exercised. All those imports will disappear in your mirrors easily, as power is king here.

As far as Laguna exhaust systems -back before my Camaro expired- I ran 2.5" Walker Super Turbos, and was well under the sound limit. I had a sound test done, and past by 4db. For a quick temporary system just put on a set of 3" to 2.5" reducers the Walkers and a set of turndowns.

One other thing...You have 3 trys to get through sound without getting booted. So bring some parts to reduce sound (turndowns, resonators, other mufflers, etc). If you think it is dicey. Run you first session and see how it goes. If you fail, The second session put on some turn-downs and request a sound test, as a sound test does not count against you. If you fail, try pointing the turndowns in differrent directions -towards each other for both sides sound testing-hopefully this will get you through. If not you at least got some driving in rather than an one run and out. For those with Supertrapps this is much easier. Take away plates until it passes.

It would be great to see the PT crew at Laguna.

Regards

CurtiSS 69

I have an idea for doing 2 bolt on "back half" exhaust systems after my X pipe. I already bought some cutouts recently so they can go on the "Kill" system and stay with the Spintech 3" muffs to give me the Loud and Louder optoons. Then for Laguna I will get the reducers and some cheap big case turbo mufflers like Walker or Thrush to make that the patsy quiet system. LOL... probably lose 10-15 hp I would guess, but if that keeps me hot lapping out there, then so be it.

Thanks for the insight. So what were you getting on 92 db max days? I keep seeing people going on 90, 92, 95, 100 and unlimited db days. I did not realize there were so many various days until researching recently.

[Jeff70]

Maybe Charlie will chime in I know he has ran the Mule and possibly CamaroX at Laguna and he normally runs 3inch pipe with Borla XR1's. I was their a couple of years ago and a guy in a vette was blowing pass the db limit just with his blower whine.

[David Pozzi]

Mary's system had 3" pipes with X pipe, into 2.5" Walker Super Turbo mufflers, tail pipes were 2.5" Flowmasters mandril bent. I put a similar system on her 68 Camaro with stockish 350 and it was a lot quieter. I think the more HP & RPM's you have, the louder it will be. Sound readings will also vary with humidity & temperature. Any exhaust that runs straight through is doomed.

Sounds very quiet here but was borderline over.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5woh-cNEXWs&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[Flash68]

Mary's system had 3" pipes with X pipe, into 2.5" Walker Super Turbo mufflers, tail pipes were 2.5" Flowmasters mandril bent. I put a similar system on her 68 Camaro with stockish 350 and it was a lot quieter. I think the more HP & RPM's you have, the louder it will be. Sound readings will also vary with humidity & temperature. Any exhaust that runs straight through is doomed.

Sounds very quiet here but was borderline over.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5woh-cNEXWs&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Hey Dave, I am kinda worried but Rich seems to think we will be fine.... I don't know why with all these stories of going over. He is talking to a guy he knows locally there about some baffle/resonator thing that has supposedly been successfully used.... hell, I dunno.... you've heard my car numerous times, you think I have a shot of passing?

[David Pozzi]

I don't recall how loud yours sounded, I think it was louder than Mary's system which was a little over the limit. I'd want to do something more to it.

[buickfunnycar.com]

Like Dave said,come prepared in case you fail.There is only a handful of races/events held there w/o sound limits and this obviously isn't one of them.

[mpozzi]

Hey Dave, I am kinda worried but Rich seems to think we will be fine.... I don't know why with all these stories of going over. He is talking to a guy he knows locally there about some baffle/resonator thing that has supposedly been successfully used.... hell, I dunno.... you've heard my car numerous times, you think I have a shot of passing?

If Rich feels that secure about your Camaro meeting sound, he'll obviously refund your entry fee and expenses if/when it doesn't??? You didn't ask specifically for my opinion but I've heard your car and think you have a better chance of Hell freezing over than avoiding the "meatball" with your current exhaust setup.

Read up on the Shelby Club exhaust and sound link I posted earlier.

Just sayin'.

Mary Pozzi

[Flash68]

If Rich feels that secure about your Camaro meeting sound, he'll obviously refund your entry fee and expenses if/when it doesn't??? You didn't ask specifically for my opinion but I've heard your car and think you have a better chance of Hell freezing over than avoiding the "meatball" with your current exhaust setup.

Read up on the Shelby Club exhaust and sound link I posted earlier.

Just sayin'.

Mary Pozzi

Haha Mary I absolutely agree with you. And your opinion is very welcome. He actually did say he'd pay the entry fee if we couldn't make it work... he says he has a couple tricks up his sleeve so I am anxious to find out....

I did read the Shelby Club thing and it doesn't give me much confidence. It also doesn't talk about Spintechs, but all in all, I am not confident in the current set up at all. We need to do something that's for sure...

Do you have any plans to take your 73 there in the near to medium future? Doesn't sound much like it...

[Vegas69]

As close as you are, you may as well buy a second set of mufflers and just do a v clamp. DONE!

[Flash68]

As close as you are, you may as well buy a second set of mufflers and just do a v clamp. DONE!

I think that is the plan!

Hey, those of you who keep saying Walker Super Turbos are the way to go.... where are they? Are they now the Dynomax Super Turbos? It appears that way to me.... thanks

[mpozzi]

There's no way my car would make sound but I'll come out and cheer you guys on ...

Mary Pozzi

[ROBS6T8]

Is this only for track days? Or do all the race events out there require this db level? I never realized there was a housing community sooo close by.

[Flash68]

There's no way my car would make sound but I'll come out and cheer you guys on ...

Mary Pozzi

That would be cool if you're not busy Mary. Then we both can say to Rich "I told ya so" :hah:


Is this only for track days? Or do all the race events out there require this db level? I never realized there was a housing community sooo close by.

The track gets an allotted amount of unlimited db days per year and those are for the big time events, and then they have so many other days with 90, 92, 95 db limits as I have read. It seems your average Joe open track day is usually at the 92 db level.

[j-rho]

They used to just check off to the right between T5 and T6, so the old approach was to direct all exhaust noise to the left, and/or lift past the meter (which kills lap times) - but as Mary said, they can be anywhere now. It doesn't take much to hit 92db on a foggy Monterey morning - if you're planning to go and the car is anywhere close, I'd take the time to try to package adequate muffling - both for the exhaust, which is obvious, but also the intake, which may not be. The day will be so much more fun if you can enjoy the driving aspect, without having to crawl all around the car trying to drop a couple more db.

Laguna is a fun and gorgeous track, rich in heritage, though not in run-off room in many places so be careful! I don't plan to track my car much once it's built but Laguna is the one track I know for sure I'll hit.

[SIK02SS]

SCCA Regional race this past weekend they only checked sound via the stand. Maybe this is just happening for HPDE weekends?

[James OLC]

Every year we talk about taking the OLC out for this event and every year we get scared off by the noise concerns... I'd love to do it but I doubt we'd pass.

[Flash68]

They used to just check off to the right between T5 and T6, so the old approach was to direct all exhaust noise to the left, and/or lift past the meter (which kills lap times) - but as Mary said, they can be anywhere now. It doesn't take much to hit 92db on a foggy Monterey morning - if you're planning to go and the car is anywhere close, I'd take the time to try to package adequate muffling - both for the exhaust, which is obvious, but also the intake, which may not be. The day will be so much more fun if you can enjoy the driving aspect, without having to crawl all around the car trying to drop a couple more db.

Laguna is a fun and gorgeous track, rich in heritage, though not in run-off room in many places so be careful! I don't plan to track my car much once it's built but Laguna is the one track I know for sure I'll hit.

Thanks Jason. I do plan to take it easy... for awhile.... if we pass sound. :)


SCCA Regional race this past weekend they only checked sound via the stand. Maybe this is just happening for HPDE weekends?

I wonder if it had the same 92 db max? I would surely think all the usual HPDE weekends get the 90 or 92 db max and the bigger/better/badder events (i.e. more $$) get the higher max or no max days.


Every year we talk about taking the OLC out for this event and every year we get scared off by the noise concerns... I'd love to do it but I doubt we'd pass.

That's a long haul James to have your day shortened.... but with the Pozzis on your race team and their experience there I would think they could put together a plan to get you to pass. :)

[Nessumsar]

If you car is just over the sound limit you could stuff the mufflers/piping with steelwool and secure it with some wire mesh hose-clamped over the end. That trick is good for a few DB.

[mpozzi]

The usual procedure is to monitor sound at the exit of T5 on the right (small shack in the fenced enclosure). If the person there feels that someone in a group of cars is close or over your 92db limit, they'll have someone take a portable meter to another area of the track and monitor sound from there. If you have the "Laguna tail pipes" that exit pointed to the left and that someone with the meter happens to be on the left side of the track, you're coming in. Plan for the worst and get the car quiet so you can enjoy the day.

My car had more noise coming from the intake than the exhaust. And I keep those exhaust tips in the trailer just in case.

Most autocross sites have sound limits but they're rarely enforced. Kinda like porn where you can't really define it but know it when you see it. With sound, you hear it ...

We will probably eventually lose our local Marina autocross site due to excessive noise. There are some dune buggies that run open exhaust and don't really understand why the sound rules apply to them too. When the Prepareds and Mods run, you can hear them from 1.5 miles away. Houses are less than half a mile from that site and I'm surprised there haven't been complaints.

Maybe there have been ...

Mary Pozzi

[sevillaz28]

Its kind of funny that the AMA Races don't have db level restrictions. I rode Laguna in "89" on a full race preped 1100 Ninja and i think that bike was louder then my car and never had a problem. The whole area is full of noise nazi's. The cops will pull you over for just reving your engine.

[SIK02SS]

I wonder if it had the same 92 db max? I would surely think all the usual HPDE weekends get the 90 or 92 db max and the bigger/better/badder events (i.e. more $$) get the higher max or no max days.


No, on a club race weekend the dB rating ranges from 93-103 depending on time of day. Spec Miatas and formula fords have to meet 93 in their morning practices, and the T1 Corvettes and GT1 cars have to meet 99 in their late morning practices.

Coastfab makes some great sound reducing mufflers as does Burns Stainless. I had a set of Burns dual trap mufflers on my T1 Corvette, I was 108dB without them and passed 95 dB (at LS) with them..long tube headers and no cats. Pricey, but well worth it if you're actually scared of sound.

[SIK02SS]

Its kind of funny that the AMA Races don't have db level restrictions. I rode Laguna in "89" on a full race preped 1100 Ninja and i think that bike was louder then my car and never had a problem. The whole area is full of noise nazi's. The cops will pull you over for just reving your engine.

Pro weekends don't have sound restrictions. Due to the (*******s who moved in affter the track was built) neighbors law suit that was filed in the mid-late 90's, LS is allowed 3 (maybe 4?) unlimited sound weekends every year and X-amount of varying sound weekends a year. Obviously pro race groups get first pick at the unlimited sound weekends, then club racing groups get the moderate sound weekends, and then the strict sound weekends are left for everyone else (HPDE)

[firebob]

I ran LS last year in Sept with NCRC and I think they said it was a 92 limit weekend. I run 2.5in with x-pipe, ulta flows and turndowns. I'm not sure what mine runs to but I'm no doubt over the limit when I'm on track and nobody said anything to me. Maybe I just got lucky.
LS is a hard track to drive especially in a big american car. Fun...but man you always got to be thinking about what you're doing. Almost more work than fun.

Robert

[Flash68]

We will probably eventually lose our local Marina autocross site due to excessive noise.

Mary that would be terrible. Esp for you since it's basically down the street from you.




Coastfab makes some great sound reducing mufflers as does Burns Stainless. I had a set of Burns dual trap mufflers on my T1 Corvette, I was 108dB without them and passed 95 dB (at LS) with them..long tube headers and no cats. Pricey, but well worth it if you're actually scared of sound.

Yeah those look nice... and not cheap!


I ran LS last year in Sept with NCRC and I think they said it was a 92 limit weekend. I run 2.5in with x-pipe, ulta flows and turndowns. I'm not sure what mine runs to but I'm no doubt over the limit when I'm on track and nobody said anything to me. Maybe I just got lucky.
LS is a hard track to drive especially in a big american car. Fun...but man you always got to be thinking about what you're doing. Almost more work than fun.

Robert

What was your car/engine setup?

Shouldn't you always be thinking about what you're doing on a race track!?

[solarguy09]

:usa:Hello All.

I am new to auto crossing and track days, but i have had my 1971 Z/28 since 1983....Numbers matching 4 speed.

I live in the bay area.

I am in the shop now for new exhaust, coil over front end, new tech power steering, QA1 shocks and rear Hotchkis springs and subframe connectors. Also 13 inch Willwoods and 12 inch rear discs, all on brand new Rushforth wheels, and more..

Just to auto cross and do track days, and some crusing...

And you tell me someone has the sound police out there ?

What do i do with my factory 780cfm holley ,when i want to go full throttle? Ask it to be quiet ??

You know how loud that can be....More than 92db.....Ahhhhhhhhh:ripped:

[mpozzi]

You have two choices ... either quiet it down or track at other venues around the Bay Area. I know I'm over 92 dB and as such, don't run Laguna.

Mary Pozzi

[rrunner68]

We'll have to see what my holiday travel plans look like. I may be flying in and out of SFO, and if that is the case, I may just stash the Runner up there with some family. I know I'm good for Db's and haven't been to Laguna for a few years, should be fun.

[solarguy09]

Thanks Mary...

I have been reading about you...One special driver you are......

I will have to get my feet wet at the autocross when my Car is done.

I hope to meet you at an event in Pleasanton some time.

My wife is not happy with my plans to autocross or run the track.

Maybe after she meets you, she will lighten up. I am 51 and retired and starting my bucket list.

I am hoping she will be ok when the time comes to Race my 71 Z/28...

[mpozzi]

Thanks Mary...

I have been reading about you...One special driver you are......

I will have to get my feet wet at the autocross when my Car is done.

I hope to meet you at an event in Pleasanton some time.

My wife is not happy with my plans to autocross or run the track.

Maybe after she meets you, she will lighten up. I am 51 and retired and starting my bucket list.

I am hoping she will be ok when the time comes to Race my 71 Z/28...

As you're probably aware, autocrossing is quite safe and your wife shouldn't worry about you running your Z28 through the cones. The people that are involved in this sport are also very nice and fun. She'll make friends quickly and who knows ... she may even want to try it herself.

Open track days are also safe but with a higher risk if you think that you have to run "10-10th" all the time. Start with either a Novice or Point-By group and you'll be fine. Northern CA has several racetracks that are within a three-hour drive from you and there's lots of us Pro-Touring peeps that will be out there with you.

And how the hell did you get to retire at 51??? Good for you ...

Cheers,
Mary Pozzi

[solarguy09]

Mary,

Thanks for taking the time to respond to me.

Yes I am looking forward to meeting new friends and testing my Z/28.
I may have to talk my wife into coming with me, we will see...She worries about me due to health issues... Time will tell.. If not, I have plenty of buddies frothing at the chance to go Auto crossing.

I will have to take the baby steps...First the autocross. Although everyone wants to win, I just need to get out there and see how I do..Make it fun and no pressure..

Track days are a far off wish for now, and I would start as a novice.

The retired at 51 thing.... Well good news, bad news...Although I have been preparing for years to retire early, a Brain and Heart malfunction sped the retirement up several years. You know it is not good when the Priest, the Attorney, and the Notary are at your bedside with last rites and drawing up a will to sign... I was partially paralyzed for 24 hours. That was one year ago. I am doing good and ready to get back into Life...

Fast forward one year to today...Enter the first thing on my Bucket list..Modern Upgrades on my car and a trip to at least the autocross.

Again, thank you for getting back to me.

Best regards, Mike V.

[Flash68]

We'll have to see what my holiday travel plans look like. I may be flying in and out of SFO, and if that is the case, I may just stash the Runner up there with some family. I know I'm good for Db's and haven't been to Laguna for a few years, should be fun.

Be cool to run with ya Dan. Better check the registration page. I think it's filling up fast depending on your group/experience.

What do you think your db is at? Had it tested before?

[rrunner68]

Yeah, because of running so many events w/SCCA, My car is well under 92Db @ 50ft. I think the last time I looked at a sheet I was around 87.

[firebob]

flash,
My motor is a Pont 400. Typical big valve heads, 2.5 exhaust mans, 2.5 pypes, x-pipe, 2.5 ultra flow weldeds and turndowns. It's pretty loud normally. Car is a poor man's PT. Stock subframe, 1.25" front sway, cut BB chevelle springs, tubular UCAs, KYBs, solid body bush, front subframe braces, frame conns, DS loop, 3.23 posi, panhard bar, slide-a-links, .75" rear sway bar. Probably some other stuff I forgot to mention like the roll bar and 4wheel discs, etc...whatever, it's only money. I asked my wife if she'd rather me spend my money on the car or hookers? She seems to be ok with the car :)

Oh, and yeah, you're always suppose to be thinking about what you're doing but there is an intensity level that begins to feel more like work than fun, for me anyway. I guess I'm just not as serious about it as some people are. Different strokes...

Robert

[Gitter Dun]

Unfortunately the db level restrictions at Laguna have always kept me away from even considering to register for a track day there which is unfortunate since it is such a historical track to run at.

I've never had issues at Infineon and is just as historical and equal if not more challenging.

Hope all goes well for you there Dave.

[Flash68]

Yeah, because of running so many events w/SCCA, My car is well under 92Db @ 50ft. I think the last time I looked at a sheet I was around 87.

Wow that is very good. Nice to not have to even think about it.


flash,
My motor is a Pont 400. Typical big valve heads, 2.5 exhaust mans, 2.5 pypes, x-pipe, 2.5 ultra flow weldeds and turndowns. It's pretty loud normally. Car is a poor man's PT. Stock subframe, 1.25" front sway, cut BB chevelle springs, tubular UCAs, KYBs, solid body bush, front subframe braces, frame conns, DS loop, 3.23 posi, panhard bar, slide-a-links, .75" rear sway bar. Probably some other stuff I forgot to mention like the roll bar and 4wheel discs, etc...whatever, it's only money. I asked my wife if she'd rather me spend my money on the car or hookers? She seems to be ok with the car :)

Oh, and yeah, you're always suppose to be thinking about what you're doing but there is an intensity level that begins to feel more like work than fun, for me anyway. I guess I'm just not as serious about it as some people are. Different strokes...

Robert

Not sure how rowdy your motor is, but maybe that has something to do with it. Or maybe you weren't WOT on the section where they test? Who knows, but sounds like you got lucky perhaps. I've heard those welded ultra flows and they sound nice and mean behind a decent motor.

And no doubt on the various levels of intensity out there. No one should push it to the point where it feels like "work" and loses any of the fun.


Unfortunately the db level restrictions at Laguna have always kept me away from even considering to register for a track day there which is unfortunate since it is such a historical track to run at.

I've never had issues at Infineon and is just as historical and equal if not more challenging.

Hope all goes well for you there Dave.

Yeah I hear ya G.. and thanks... Rich has been workin me hard for months to do a day at Laguna so I finally caved... I guess I will take him up on his offer of him to reimburse me for the fee if I don't pass sound. He thinks he can make it work.

I def wanna do Infineon too, and Thunderhill for that matter. Both look like great tracks. We really are lucky to have so many killer tracks in our area. Of course there should be a Run to the Whatever up in Northern Calif somewhere. :)

Lemme know the next time you are running Infineon.

[firebob]

I think I just got lucky the day I was there. Or maybe they just didn't get any complaints so they weren't out checking cause I had my foot in it all day until one of my roller rockers broke in half anyway.
I was checking the lists for all the clubs that I know of and it looks like there aren't anymore dates that I can make this year so I guess it's time for me to start thinking about the winter projects. There are a couple dates but they are during the week. I, personally, liked Infineon alot better than LS. It really didn't seem as technical to me. I'm sure it's just personal preference. My goal is to give Thunderhill a try next year. My buddies with NASA rave about it. They say it's way more fun than either of the other two. We'll see.

Robert

[Flash68]

I think I just got lucky the day I was there. Or maybe they just didn't get any complaints so they weren't out checking cause I had my foot in it all day until one of my roller rockers broke in half anyway.
I was checking the lists for all the clubs that I know of and it looks like there aren't anymore dates that I can make this year so I guess it's time for me to start thinking about the winter projects. There are a couple dates but they are during the week. I, personally, liked Infineon alot better than LS. It really didn't seem as technical to me. I'm sure it's just personal preference. My goal is to give Thunderhill a try next year. My buddies with NASA rave about it. They say it's way more fun than either of the other two. We'll see.

Robert

Cool. Which group and organizer did you run with?

I have watched 2 good in-car vids in the past few days of Thunderhill and I am really excited to run that course too.

[firebob]

I ran with NCRC Labor Day weekend last year. They're not much for frills but they're reasonable and well organized.
I got my helmet cam the other day and can't wait to put some of my own vids up. Any way you add it up, it's a $500 trip for me to do Thunderhill. Can't wait though. Gotta start saving up.

Robert

[Flash68]

Point-by and Solo groups are sold out for both Dec 30 and 31. Figured this would fill up well in advance.