View Full Version : Stans 1968 camaro LS swap and other upgrades.
Bmf5150
07-29-2011, 09:42 AM
Hey guys,bought my 68 camaro last summer.i have wanted one for years,slowly looking for the wright car to buy.i ended up finding one that was complete re stored 3 years ago.i got a great deal on it and had plans for a LS swap from the day i bought it!ithe car had 1600 miles since the rebuild!.it had a 383 with edelbrock performer heads and a t10 4 speed. it has around 500hp.the guy i bought the car from did an awsome job on the cari,its like brand new..will document my LS swap as well as other upgrades.my swap started in december of 2010.here is what the car looked like when i got it.
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Hate the wide back wheels,got to go!!
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Bmf5150
07-29-2011, 09:45 AM
here are some pics from over christmas when i pulled the engine!
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Bmf5150
07-29-2011, 09:45 AM
i bought a 1997 ls1 from a corvette,the motor is suppose to have low to no miles on it!since the motor was the older ls1 i wanted to upgrade some stuff on the motor,called up texas speed and decided on there 243 stage 2 ported heads and a 228r cam!im also going with a ported oil pump,ls2 timing chain and a stock ls6 intake.my goal was to to get more power,but dont want to kill gas mileage,want to drive and enjoy the car!
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Bmf5150
07-29-2011, 09:47 AM
cleaning everything up getting ready for cam..
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my motor is one of the early 97 with the copper colored stock cam bearings..
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does the deck surface look clean enough to u guys?need to wipe it down one last time..hate those old graphite gaskets!!
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my texas speed 228r with 114 going in,using assembly lube as it goes in..
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Bmf5150
07-29-2011, 09:48 AM
i read about the controversy of the s&p modded oil pan with oil starvation i didnt want to have any issues,so i ordered a autokraft pan.this pan is really really nice!!!
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Bmf5150
07-29-2011, 09:49 AM
When i started working on the motor,i went to swap out rod bolts with ARP after i had read about all the rod bolt failure with the early motors.!i was curious so i lifted a few rod bearings to see if they had any wear.they look very clean with like no wear to them.
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im a little messy with the assembly lube!
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Bmf5150
07-29-2011, 09:50 AM
Here is when i started re assembling the motor!
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installing the texas speed stage 2 243 heads!!!i have to say these heads are nice!!
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Bmf5150
07-29-2011, 09:51 AM
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the texas speed 243 stage two heads are nice!!!!!
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Bmf5150
07-29-2011, 09:52 AM
me test fitting the intake,think im going to sand it and paint it!!
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Bmf5150
07-29-2011, 09:52 AM
i went with the street and performance motor mount conversion plates!
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Bmf5150
07-29-2011, 09:53 AM
here is my performabuilt level 2 4l60e,they claim its good for up to 700hp..i went with the 3000 stall.I had a heck of a time to get the converter to seat properly!!it was a real pain!!
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Ron.in.SoCal
07-29-2011, 10:08 AM
Great car Sir! Welcome to the forum...
Swiftandswank
07-29-2011, 11:46 AM
Now that is a great first start of a project thread
Rybar
07-29-2011, 11:59 AM
Nice project, looks like you are doing a good job. Thank god you are getting rid of those wheels and tires that came on the car. I just can't figure out that someone actually thinks that looked good??? :lol:
Motown 454
07-29-2011, 01:44 PM
Welcome you have a sweet project going on here.
Dobster
07-29-2011, 04:59 PM
Looks like a great start. keep up the really nice work...
Bmf5150
07-29-2011, 08:36 PM
Thanks guys!!rybar,i agree!!
Bmf5150
07-29-2011, 08:37 PM
couple pics of the motor going in,big thanks to my buddy jeremy and rich for the help getting it in!couldnt have done it without you guys!!!
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Bmf5150
07-29-2011, 08:40 PM
With all the issues with the Spectra gas tanks and guys having to modded them to work i said F&ck it and went with the Ricks hot rod gas tank!the ricks tank sure is nice!!shame it cant be more seen!!!
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Bmf5150
07-29-2011, 08:41 PM
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got the hole in the floor patched from the old stick tranny and i got the new B&M quicksilver mounted!!
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Bmf5150
07-29-2011, 08:42 PM
big thanks to my buddy jeremy for taking the intake and painting it for me.looks awsome!!!
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Bmf5150
07-29-2011, 08:43 PM
i ended up running -6 send and return lines from the tank to the engine.
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musclecarmatt
07-29-2011, 08:44 PM
looking good!....
Bmf5150
07-29-2011, 08:54 PM
I went with the Entropy 67-68 camaro LS swap radiator.Really happy with it..
http://www.entropyrad.com/index.php?_a=viewProd&productId=10
here is his wiring harness
http://www.entropyrad.com/index.php?_a=viewProd&productId=19
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Bmf5150
07-29-2011, 08:56 PM
figured out with the 243 heads and the ls7 lifters i needed a pushrod length of 7.350 ,this will give me .080 of lifter pre load.got my rockers installed
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started putting everything on the front of the motor back together.
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boy the power steering pulley was a tight fit,for the pic i only have the pulley loosely on the shaft to see how it would fit.everything has gone back together soo good i new something would have to give me trouble,lol
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Bmf5150
07-29-2011, 08:58 PM
well i got the radiator put in..
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ground it down,looks better now.
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Bmf5150
07-29-2011, 09:00 PM
I routed the trans lines similar to what the stock car has.
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Bmf5150
07-29-2011, 09:02 PM
got my wiring harness from street and performance,did a very nice job!!i had it made extra long so i could run it through the inner fender to the battery location where i mounted my PCM
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Bmf5150
07-29-2011, 09:03 PM
big thanks to jeremy for helping me get my gas tank mounted!!
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Here is how i ran my fuel lines.
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Bmf5150
07-29-2011, 09:04 PM
so i made a bracket at work to mount the pcm,it has a lip around it so i can make either an aluminum cover or stainless steel.,the bracket is l shape so it will tuck into fender a bit to mount the relays..
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Bmf5150
07-29-2011, 09:05 PM
here is how i ran my oil pressure lines.i used the autometer
Oil pressure switch: #2268
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Bmf5150
07-29-2011, 09:07 PM
.i went with stainless works header and bought them through http://www.prodigycustoms.com/ he gave me a great price on them,way better than buying direct from stainless works..they tell me they are made to work with the S&P motor plates!
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Bmf5150
07-29-2011, 09:12 PM
installed the new headers,talk about a close fit!!!but damn they look nice!!i ended up going with a 3rd gen steering box (maybe thats why fit was so tight)and new pitman arm.here is info on the parts for the 3rd gen steering box swap.
3rd gen steering nod
Rag joint
Gm#7826542 or dorman 31011
Bolt gm#7807271
Pitman arm moog k6582
85 to 92 iroc Camaro
Performance suspension box
Gm#7843512 0r cardone#
276550
Here is a great link on it!!
http://69camaro.nextmill.net/steering.html
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Bmf5150
07-29-2011, 09:14 PM
my computer mounted and my new wiring harness connected to most of the engine sensor!!
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there will be an aluminum or stainless cover to hide the computer!!the fuses are tucked in the fender out of sight.
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i used a lokar throttle cable and this foot pedal,worked great..
http://www.restorationperformance.com/servlet/the-131467/1967-dsh-69-Camaro-Accelerator-Pedal/Detail
For radiator hoses i went with gates 20603 and the 22373.i had to shorten the lower hose.
to run my speedo cable i went with http://www.shiftworks.com/tailhousing.htm
Bmf5150
07-29-2011, 09:20 PM
after i got everything back together and fired the car up she would only run for a few seconds then die.i found out when S&P program the computer they left the vats on!even after i had the vats turned off the car would idle bad and die.i ended up pulling the computer and taking it jesse bubb of wait4me performance,he told me the tune was really far off for the parts i was using.big thanks to him for getting the car to run good!!
dont laugh,but i used 3inch pvc and painted it for the air intake!
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Bmf5150
07-29-2011, 09:27 PM
i had to get rid of the horrible wheels on the car!
foose legends from driverzinc.
went with a 18x8 front with a 5 inch back space.tire will be 245-40-18..
went with a 18x9 in the rear with a 5 1/4 back space.tire will be 275-40-18..
the rims should clear the c5 brake upgrade as well.
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They really changed the look of the car!!!
and yes im going to lower front end!!sits to high with new motor!
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Bmf5150
07-29-2011, 09:29 PM
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Bmf5150
07-29-2011, 09:31 PM
i still need to get the car on a dyno and have it tuned.here is a video of her running.still a couple small leaks to work out.
http://youtu.be/Ws62ED5euHc
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Bmf5150
07-29-2011, 09:39 PM
having old manual brakes sucks!!this winter i will be doing the C5 Brake upgrade!!
found a great source of info on it!figure I would post it!!
http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=163007
this is taken from the link
"Parts you will need / Services you will need performed:
* Front Drum Hubs. You need original GM front drum hubs (disc brake front hubs will not work), if your car has disc or some other brakes on the front you can easily find these at an old classic car junkyard in your neighborhood. GM used these for many years so they should be easy to find. Or you can buy them on eBay, or maybe even the auto parts store? You won’t need the drums or any other hardware, just the hubs, the C5 rotors will mount on them. You will need to machine the hubs to front and rear to fit the “rotor hats” (the section of the rotor that fits over the hub), you will need to machine a bit less than 6” off, take it to the local machine shop and have them measure and machine it for you.
* C5 Calipers (eBay/craigslist). These calipers are made in Australia by PBR and are badass. They are aluminum, not cast iron like the old calipers and some aftermarket ones. Aluminum means they are much lighter and dissipate heat much better. The C5 calipers and 13” rotors are 5lbs less per corner than the 11” rotors and calipers from the 60’s / 70’s. So now in addition to better braking you will take 10lbs off the front of your Camaro, unsprung weight too, which is the best weight to lose. Less unsprung weight = good, even on a crappy 40-year-old muscle car suspension. If you have a 68 or 69 Camaro you will need two C5 left rear calipers because of the staggered shocks, get a remanufactured one at Pep Boys (or whatever local auto parts store you have nearby, it was approx $70, use the right side caliper you will not use as the core, they won’t check and won’t know)
* C5 Rotors (eBay/craigslist). These are 13” front rotors…not 11” like the originals from the 60’s and 70’s. Rear rotors are 12”. Big brakes=good, that’s why Ferraris and Lamborghinis have huge brakes! Your best bet for ebay are C5 owners that are tracking their cars and want better brakes, the C5 brakes are great for the street, not so great for hardcore track use, these guys tend to sell their old brakes on ebay.
* C5 Master Cylinder (eBay/craigslist). It’s made of lightweight aluminum, and the master cylinder is clear plastic so you can see the fluid level. Yes, you can use your existing crappy cast iron master cylinder if you want but why would you want to when you can use a modern one for $100 extra? Cast iron master cylinders rust which can cause leakage between the internal rubber seals, eventually leading to a mushy pedal. You will need to cut the C5 brake pedal push rod and re-tap the end that I cut it so it will work with the old Camaro brake pedal, this just takes some measuring, then shim the booster at the firewall to get the correct spacing and to make sure it clears the hood, takes a bit of measuring and trial and error but is easy. You may need to shim the booster a bit so it angles down more, mine hit the hood a little. Be sure to use two nuts to hold the rod where it attaches to the pedal and use red Locktite to make sure it does not come loose.
* C5 Brake Booster (eBay/craigslist). Get the master cylinder and booster together if you can, it’s almost a direct bolt in. Almost! I think I got booster and master cylinder on eBay for ~$140?
* 4 Adapter Brackets (Kore3.com). To mount the new calipers to the old spindle in front, and axle in back, you will need adapter brackets. You will need different brackets based on different spindles so check the Kore3.com website to see what you have/need. Kore3 bracket kits also include very good directions, follow them closely.
* 4 Brake Lines (Kore3.com). These are the flexible brake lines that go from the hard brake lines to the caliper. These need to be special lines that have different fittings on each end, one end goes to the old original Camaro hard lines, and the other end is designed to fit the new Corvette calipers. Remember, the Corvette calipers have a more modern style fitting…regular Camaro flexible brake lines will not work, and regular C5 corvette lines will not work. You need these special lines. Luckily the guys at www.Kore3.com have em, they are pretty helpful too if you call.
* Disc/Disc Proportioning Valve (eBay). I got an aluminum one on eBay for around $40 I think. Make sure you get a Disc/Disc one since that’s what you will have when you are done! Your current prop valve is most likely a Disc/Drum or a Drum/Drum…that will not work with the new C5 Disc/Disc setup.
* 2 Small Hard Brake Lines from Master Cylinder to Proportioning Valve. You will need 2 hard lines to connect the C5 master cylinder to the Disc/Disc proportioning valve. If you use your stock master cylinder you will not need these. This was perhaps the trickiest part of the swap, the lines must be old school type flare at the proportioning valve and bubble-type flare at the master cylinder. I bought bubble type flare stock tubes at the auto parts store and then cut one end, flared them with an old school flare and then bent them to fit, I then borrowed a friends flare tool and created the flare for the proportioning valve. It leaked. So I redid it. It leaked again. I redid it again this time without crushing the fitting so much, I allowed it to crush a bit while I was tightening it, no leaks! If needed some parts stores may be able to do this for you, or a brake shop can, ask around if you don’t want to do this.
* Wheel studs (Summit Racing). I recommend upgrading from stock 7/16 studs to M12x1.5 (which are 12mm). I think I used ARP 100-7708, they are a bit long though. Your front hubs and rear axle will need to be removed so a machine shop can drill out and install these for you.
* Machining: As with the front hubs you will also need to machine your rear axle hubs so the rotor hats will fit over the hub, only a tiny amount needs to be machined off, just a few mm, I suppose this could be done on the car but the best thing to do is remove the rear axle and have it machined at a local machine shop. Overall rear hub diameter should be 6”, same as the front, measure the inside of the rotor hats to make sure the size is right.
* Larger wheels. 13” rotors are big, my Camaro had 14” wheels from the factory, so these brakes are only 1” smaller than the original wheels! These rotors will fit on some 17” wheels, use 18”s if you want to be sure they will fit. Kore3 has cutouts you can print to check your wheels to make sure they fit.
* Brake line from body to rear axle (Classic Industries). Its probably a good time to change this brake line. I bought the factory original style one from www.classicindustries.com. I’m not positive but the one on my car was most likely original, 40-year-old soft brake lines are not a good idea!"
Bmf5150
07-29-2011, 09:49 PM
im really happy how the car turned out!took me about 6 months to do the swap.i would like to do the C5 brakes this fall,and im really thinking about a magnacharger TVS2300 too.i also plan to do vintage air in the future!the LS motor was a huge improvement in the car!i also highly recommend the 3rd gen steering box upgrade to!the steering is a whole lot tighter now!
rocketrod
07-30-2011, 02:13 AM
Looks great! Did you end up painting the block and accessories brackets, water pump etc?
Bmf5150
07-30-2011, 07:24 AM
Thanks,yes I did!it really made it look nice
brans72
07-30-2011, 10:45 AM
I am not a camaro owner or will be anytime but love the write up and details you have been posting. Way better then I will ever do with my job,time,etc going on. Also like the idea for pcm and how you installed it. I wanna say you have done a clean build besides lowering the whole car alot!!!. Hey just tell people air intake is till you come up with something nice but then think it works right so role with it. Great project keep us posted.
jshelzz
07-30-2011, 01:46 PM
Thats a great looking car!! do you know what color silver that is?
Tango68SS
07-30-2011, 02:29 PM
i had to get rid of the horrible wheels on the car!
foose legends from driverzinc.
went with a 18x8 front with a 5 inch back space.tire will be 245-40-18..
went with a 18x9 in the rear with a 5 1/4 back space.tire will be 275-40-18..
the rims should clear the c5 brake upgrade as well.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/07/productimagepicturefooselegendonepiecech-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/07/IMG_7944-1.jpg
They really changed the look of the car!!!
and yes im going to lower front end!!sits to high with new motor!
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/07/IMG_8229-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/07/IMG_8234-1.jpg
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Stan,
Looking good! I see you brought your pics over from LS1Tech! I like the new wheels. they go better with the car's theme. Funny though, my wife was looking over my shoulder and commented that our wheels would look trick on a silver car. I told her I wasn't going to repaint it just for that!! Anyway, brushed silver powder coat w/ polished hoops.... I love 'em on my LeMans blue baby!
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TC
Bmf5150
08-01-2011, 07:36 AM
thanks guys,the car is painted a silver off of a nissan.i dont have the color code
Bmf5150
08-01-2011, 07:37 AM
Tango,i agree those rims would look great on a silver car!!!nice car!!!
devwil68
08-01-2011, 05:00 PM
love the ls1!
Bmf5150
08-01-2011, 06:13 PM
Thank you
Bmf5150
09-12-2011, 10:20 PM
here is a video of me driving the car,i was doing about 30 to 35 mph when i hammered on it.it chirped the tires pretty good when trans shifted!car is so fun with this motor !!
http://youtu.be/iPz1ukHxtXw?hd=1
Bmf5150
09-12-2011, 10:21 PM
Well I been back to working on the car,putting a custom stereo in!my buddy jeremy did custom stereo for years and talked me in to one!here is the trunck so far,it will be covered with black vinyl!
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Bmf5150
09-12-2011, 10:22 PM
Here are the kick panels I got from screaming performance,they are awsome!!!!
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Bmf5150
09-12-2011, 10:22 PM
I went with Boston acoustic pro 60 separates in the front kick panels!
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Bmf5150
09-25-2011, 05:02 PM
Well I got some more progress done on the stereo,I got side panels made!I will be mounting the battery sideways where the face of battery will be showing!
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Motown 454
09-25-2011, 07:40 PM
The car looks great nice work.
Smock67
09-25-2011, 10:08 PM
Great build, enjoyed seeing all the pics with your updates.
69X22
09-26-2011, 01:30 AM
Nice project, looks like you are doing a good job. Thank god you are getting rid of those wheels and tires that came on the car. I just can't figure out that someone actually thinks that looked good??? :lol:
Back in the 80s that wheel and tire combo was in, the only suspension mods we did back then were a pair of Hijacker air shocks, and sometimes big block springs. (glad times have changed)
Bmf5150
10-16-2011, 12:27 PM
Well I'm now to the point to take it all back apart and start glueing vinyl on everything,need to pull sub box and finish the inside with aluminum!also need to take paper off of the plexiglas glass
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rocketrod
10-16-2011, 12:37 PM
Looking good! When you going to install the TVS2300?
Bmf5150
10-16-2011, 01:30 PM
over winter here,i think i will do the c5 brakes here first!
Bmf5150
01-18-2012, 10:31 AM
started the C5 brake upgrade thanks to kore 3!!
here are the front brackest from kore 3,thanks mike for powder coating them..https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif
with my drum brake hub,that we turned down to kore 3 spec of 5.94 with a 1/8x45 degree chamfer..thanks mike for the nice powder coating.
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here is the finished passenger side!
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Bmf5150
01-18-2012, 10:32 AM
here is my c5 master i bought off of ebay,i did not have mounting brackets so i bought them off of detroit speed..i cut the rod and im now going to use a 3/8 die to thread it..
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duckmanjbr
02-16-2012, 05:39 PM
Have you got this beast dyno'd yet? I have the same motor and was looking at the same heads and cam...
Bmf5150
03-20-2012, 01:09 PM
No I have not dyno the car yet!im actually swapping car to Holley dominator efi!!!
Bmf5150
03-20-2012, 01:15 PM
Got a new toy for the camaro!!!
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Kenne Bell 2.8L “H” Big Bore blower with both stock Corvette (ported though) and Camaro Mammoth. NIck williams polished 90mm and 102mm DBW throttle bodies. Lower and upper manifolds with intercooler.
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LFE 2003 Cobra heat exchanger, Bosch pump which has more capacity than what KB supplies, and a 3 gallon Jaz cell as well as the stock KB reservoir.
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Methanol system which is a Snow Performance, Labonte controller from 6-25 psi, and a Alky control line kit.
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Bmf5150
06-09-2012, 08:42 AM
the C5brake upgrade is awesome!!i highly recommend!!makes a huge difference !u stomp on the pedal and u feel your seatbelt!!car feels like it will stop on a dime!!for the price u can not beat the brakes!!!very happy I did the upgrade!!
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Bmf5150
06-09-2012, 08:47 AM
i been switching the car over from the stock computer to the holley EFI setup,will be much better i hope when i install the kenne bell and want to change pulley for boost.with the holley efi self learn fuel table it should help alot!no more running to a tuner.
Holley dominator efi!
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here is the bracket i made that goes behind glove box from kickpanel area to radio area to hole new PCM..
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bracket mounted!
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here is the PCM mounted,i will need to make a cover,to cover the wires where they plug in at the bottom since that will be exposed.
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here is where i ended up making a hole through for my harnesses!
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just program the new Holley dominator EFI!incredible simple!!!ready for my first fire up!!!https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/06/e5a02ce5-1.jpg
Bmf5150
06-09-2012, 08:48 AM
Holley efi is awesome!!im so glad I went with this system,my car seems to run better and car feels faster than what I had before!!if my car was a stock motor it would have been plug and play,but since I had a cam and ported heads the idle area needed some adjustments to get it to idle properly!!im a total noob to tuning,and am pretty lost!lots to learn!!with some help from sound engineer (really knows his holley efi)here on the forum and some stuff I tried from advice from Holley techs,the car idles best it ever has!!I had to make little changes like adjusting idle rpm and added couple degree of timing to idle area!also had to adjust my IAC via throttle body screw!other than that it was all Holley efi self learn!!if I can do it anyone can!!with me adding the kenne bell this fall and possible wanting to try different pulleys ,the self learn of the fuel table was a must!!!im very happy with the result of this system!!
Bmf5150
06-09-2012, 08:50 AM
well i ended up pulling my gas tank for two reasons,the pump that came with my ricks hot rod tank was not big enough for the hp my motor was putting out and would never handle the kenne bell! !second my sending unit never worked correctly!so I ordered a Aero motive 11140 pump,they claim it's good for 900 hp natural aspire or 700 hp with boost!!i also talk to ricks about the sending unit,they said they have lots of problems with them with the float arms!they told me to contact ISSpro and they could custom make me one that works great!so I called them and they new exactly what I needed,should be here by the weekend!!!
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Bmf5150
06-09-2012, 08:53 AM
well guys,all work on the car is at a stand still do to a new memebr of the family arriving !born april 17 my daughter katelynn!!
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my plan is to take some time off enjoy the baby and in the fall start putting on the kenne bell!!
Tango68SS
06-09-2012, 08:55 AM
Stan,
Looking awesome! That sucker is going to be killer!
TC
Bmf5150
06-09-2012, 09:00 AM
thanks tango!!
67speedfreak
06-09-2012, 09:28 AM
Congrats on the new addition , she's beautiful ! :)
Car is looking great, love the Kenny Bell ! :)
Bmf5150
06-09-2012, 09:37 AM
thanks speedfreak!!im sure enjoying her!
SDS MACHINING
06-09-2012, 09:43 AM
Congratulations on the new addition..looks like one of those Anne Geddes pictures...
http://curezone.com/ig/i.asp?i=36365
Maybe pose the new one on the Kenny Bell wrapped up in a engine containment diaper?
67speedfreak
06-09-2012, 09:49 AM
Congratulations on the new addition..looks like one of those Anne Geddes pictures...
http://curezone.com/ig/i.asp?i=36365
Maybe pose the new one on the Kenny Bell wrapped up in a engine containment diaper?
LOL, A true gear head ! :)
Bmf5150
06-09-2012, 11:36 AM
Lmao!!how do I explain that to the wife!!!
Congratulations on the new addition..looks like one of those Anne Geddes pictures...
http://curezone.com/ig/i.asp?i=36365
Maybe pose the new one on the Kenny Bell wrapped up in a engine containment diaper?
Bmf5150
06-13-2012, 12:00 PM
Anybody know where I can find good quality
Mini fans for the heat exchanger!
Bmf5150
07-09-2012, 11:16 AM
Few new pics !!
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68400BIRD
07-09-2012, 03:53 PM
Car looks great. I would like to update my car to the EFI system down the road to. Keep us updated as to how it works out for you. Great addition to the family. My twins are now six years old. The time flies by pretty quickly make sure to enjoy them as much as possible. You can sleep later in life. LOL
john31s
07-09-2012, 04:29 PM
Looks good, ya just need to do something about those 383 badges on the front fenders. Maybe you get some that say LS1 or something.
Bmf5150
07-10-2012, 06:33 AM
I agree!!that and need to lower front end due to lighter motor now!kind of waiting to do suspension mod maybe next year!
Bmf5150
07-10-2012, 06:37 AM
I'm very happy with the Holley efi so far,far more geared to a guy like me who wants to learn to tune his own car and don't know much on tuning!yeah baby is fun,my son is 7 so been awhile since there was a baby in the house!
Bmf5150
09-07-2012, 03:40 AM
Been enjoying the car most of the summer,running great!
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Bmf5150
08-14-2013, 02:24 PM
Im think I'm going to upgrade my short block while I can still sell my ls1 short block. I'm afraid to put the kenne bell on it and blowing it up.. So need opinions I'm between a LS 3-418 or a LSX 427???what your guys opinion?
turboclevor
08-14-2013, 03:55 PM
for me it would depend on what i need... which one is better suited for a supercharger? compression ratios, port size, ect. out of the two i would go for the lsx 427.
Bmf5150
08-14-2013, 08:24 PM
My kenne bell is a 2.8 maybe a bit small for a 427 but I'm only looking for 750rwhp and I would think with that combo it would be easy obtained!thanks for the advice
Erik Beckett
08-15-2013, 04:48 AM
Let me know if you decide to sell your LS1, I am in the market for an LS motor.
Thanks, Erik Beckett
Bmf5150
08-17-2013, 11:26 AM
Erick,I will!!may sell the whole motor minus accessories!
rocketrod
08-17-2013, 01:01 PM
If your goal is 750rwhp, have you checked to see what you could get out of the ls1 with a pulley swaping to up the boost, unless you just have money burning a hole in your pocket. If I remember right you live in Illinois? If so, give AES Racing a call and discuss your goals and options/cost to get there.
Bmf5150
10-23-2013, 10:55 PM
I love this color for an eventual paint job...2014 alpha Romeo 4c cherry red metallic..
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Bmf5150
07-17-2017, 10:47 AM
Photobucket sucks
Bmf5150
04-08-2018, 10:33 AM
Well I got my new subframe for my Camaro last weekend from Indy speed and engineering!turned out great!!it uses corvette C6 upper and lower control arms as well as spindles ..
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ryeguy2006a
04-09-2018, 03:53 AM
Wow, that frame looks so nice! Are you going to piece together the suspension, or did you order the whole kit from them?
Bmf5150
04-12-2018, 05:16 PM
I’m going to piece it together ,slowly
Bmf5150
06-08-2020, 05:04 PM
https://youtu.be/t-M3phl6_ag
Video of my Camaro
Smooth67
06-12-2020, 04:29 AM
Just read through the entire thread, Looks and sounds nice! Did you have some plans for the trunk enclosure or y'all just wing it?
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