parking brake options??

[BuddyP]

Have a wilwood hat kit for the rear but no parking brake. I know there is a mechanical setup but I'd need to make my own brackets. Any other feasible solutions out there or should I sell this kit and get a kit with internal drum parking brake setup?

[TheJDMan]

What rear end are you running? Speedway Motors sells a 9" Ford pinion mounted E-Brake kit for $299

[brans72]

Know the feeling there Buddy I have problem with no ebrake idea for using c5 vette brakes on my 12 bolt Chevelle. Pinion mounted is a good idea but never found one for cheap on a 12 bolt. Brandon

[BuddyP]

Yeah i have a 12 bolt. A pinion mounted would be nice.

[GrnDragon]

Did you see the most recent update on Project Unfair in Super Chevy?
They use a mechanical hydraulic line lock inline to the rear brakes to use the rear caliper as a Parking Brake...
pg105

[TheJDMan]

I read that article and IMO the hydraulic line lock is not a good idea. A mechanical park brake is designed to be engaged and can be left in that state indefinately. A line lock, like any hydraulic system, will bleed off pressure over time which could result in the brakes releasing at some point. I would also be concerned that prolonged pressure in the rear calipers could cause them to fail in normal operation.

[Shwa Kid]

Not to mention that a cable operated e-brake will offer some stopping power should your hydraulic brakes fail. Yes, diagonal split braking systems are designed with this situation in mind as well, however stranger things have happened.

[GrnDragon]

I'm pretty sure the line lock can ONLY be qualified as a Parking Brake, they are getting by the DOT e-brake requirement by having a completely separate brake lines and master cylinders (I think).

As for TheJDMan's thoughts, I would tend to agree that there will be some bleeding off but who knows how long it would be before it allowed the brakes to slip and as for the prolonged pressure causing issues I would "hope" that doesn't happen but that would be a question for the designers of the calipers.

Good valid concerns though!

I myself have separate mechanical e-brakes and feel much more comforted with them over using the same rear caliper for stopping and parking brake.
Except my Lokar e-brake cable kit has failed multiple times, because the crimped fittings on the end of the cables just pop off!!! So I am searching for a better/more reliable solution to an e-brake cable.

[The WidowMaker]

i too thought about jp's newest article and like the approach with eliminating the cables. i also agree with the issues that are posted above. i think it would be better if the lack of fluid caused the brake to set rather than relying on a closed system to keep constant pressure. same theory behind maxi brakes.


Except my Lokar e-brake cable kit has failed multiple times, because the crimped fittings on the end of the cables just pop off!!! So I am searching for a better/more reliable solution to an e-brake cable.


if you need them, this place gets the best reviews. it sounds like they make an oem style cable and dont have the failures that plague the lokar cables. i even read that tobin likes them. http://store.controlcables.com/servlet/StoreFront

[GrnDragon]

Thanks for the website, I have been looking for them. I called them quite a few months ago to ask them some questions and I never ordered because my car is 700 miles away from me so I couldn't measure anything and I lost their information.
Thanks!!!

Sorry for the high jack...

[rfalker1]

Yea I have heard about control cables as well!!!

[TheJDMan]

Somewhere I saw a picture of a rear disk park brake setup which consisted of a main service brake caliper and a second seperate mechanical park brake caliper. I only saw the picture once and I have never been able to find it again but I liked the idea of a second smaller mechanical caliper for the park brake completely independent of the service brakes.

[GrnDragon]

Would it have been my setup you are talking about?
https://www.pro-touring.com/showthread.php?66997-Project-Nite-Hawk-%2869-Camaro%29/page3

I am using a Mr. Parker Mechanical caliper for the e-brake/parking brake. I bought it from a company called Precision Brake Company (but they are now Revolution Brake Company). But I will warn you they were VERY flaky when I dealt with them 4-5 years ago, they might have changed since then.

Wilwood also makes a separate mechanical caliper but it doesn't look as nice as the Mr. Parker, and I cannot find the Mr. Parker anywhere else.

[gort69]

Except my Lokar e-brake cable kit has failed multiple times, because the crimped fittings on the end of the cables just pop off!!! So I am searching for a better/more reliable solution to an e-brake cable.

The new barrel end I used is a 3/8” dia x ½” long hollow steel spacer I got at the hardware store. It’s the same size as the barrel on the end of the stock LS1 cable. Drill a 1/8” hole through the spacer, and slide the cable through. Heat the spacer with the cable passing through it cherry red and melt in some thin flux covered brass brazing rod. I used a MAPP gas bottle with a standard propane tip and it worked fine as long as the material I had it clamped to wasn’t too thick. I wound up clamping it to an old sawzall blade which was clamped in a vise and it worked great.. An acetylene rig would make it super simple.

[dipren443]

Would it have been my setup you are talking about?
https://www.pro-touring.com/showthread.php?66997-Project-Nite-Hawk-%2869-Camaro%29/page3

I am using a Mr. Parker Mechanical caliper for the e-brake/parking brake. I bought it from a company called Precision Brake Company (but they are now Revolution Brake Company). But I will warn you they were VERY flaky when I dealt with them 4-5 years ago, they might have changed since then.

Wilwood also makes a separate mechanical caliper but it doesn't look as nice as the Mr. Parker, and I cannot find the Mr. Parker anywhere else.

Early vipers had a separate parking brake caliper as well. Another good source.

[TheJDMan]

Early vipers had a separate parking brake caliper as well. Another good source.

That made me curious so I did a google search on Viper park brakes and found this site.

http://www.ipsco.org/Viper_files/parkingbrakekitViper.htm

Does anyone have any experience with this company?

[TheJDMan]

I also found this park brake kit from Brembo but this one is a bit spendy.

http://www.roeracing.com/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=370

[dipren443]

That made me curious so I did a google search on Viper park brakes and found this site.

http://www.ipsco.org/Viper_files/parkingbrakekitViper.htm

Does anyone have any experience with this company?


This kit looks like it uses the cheap aftermarket spot calipers available. I personally would prefer to just get used OE Viper calipers and retrofit them.

The OE calipers look eerily similar to the ones included in the Brembo kit you posted in your most recent response.

http://compare.ebay.com/like/300276955040?var=lv&ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar&_lwgsi=y

[67 455 Bird ragtop]

Might want to check out these guys ...

http://www.tsmmfg.com/2181.htm