Joe Rogans Cuda

[Tony_SS]

I just watched a video blog and he says the he was cruising on the hwy doing 70, then came home and in the driveway the front wheel suspension gave way and broke loose from the frame.. so he got it fixed up and sold it! Yikes.

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

what a pendejo...

[rustomatic]

This is a shock when someone else does the work on your car? Character may not be bought...

[go-fish]

Doesn't surprise me. They used Trepanier used Magnum Force junk and then further "modified" it to reduce what little integrity it had. The car, IMHO, was built to be mostly static with only light abuse. Definitely a car that Trepanier did not shine on. Blo-Fish on the other hand .......

Don't get me wrong, I really like the styling and extensive metal work on the Sickfish (bought the build book and box set of "Rides" because of Sickfish) but when I viewed them hacking on that piece of junk front suspension I knew it was going to be problems for that car.

[Dave Maxwell]

wow. I had thought rad rides did such good work too. Scary

[Tony_SS]

what a pendejo...

who, Joe or the builder?


Doesn't surprise me. They used Trepanier used Magnum Force junk and then further "modified" it to reduce what little integrity it had. The car, IMHO, was built to be mostly static with only light abuse. Definitely a car that Trepanier did not shine on. Blo-Fish on the other hand .......

Don't get me wrong, I really like the styling and extensive metal work on the Sickfish (bought the build book and box set of "Rides" because of Sickfish) but when I viewed them hacking on that piece of junk front suspension I knew it was going to be problems for that car.

That's what he was saying.. that he was lucky it didn't fail 10 mins before when he was doing 70 on the hwy.

I don't care how much of a 'prop' it was supposed to be... people are driving them.

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

Joe..

even though i like his standup..

I have a thing for the Celebrity with a custom car... if they had taste(like that car) a newfound respect..

I used to not like Brad Pitt and Adrian brody.. until they surprised me with their choice of bikes and classic japanese cars.

[bret]

I have personally followed many of Troys cars around the country since 1989...sometimes at felony speeds. The design and execution of his suspension work is impeccable. His cars are fine driving machines.
I do not know what the story is on this car but it has obviously not been fully told. To immediately give credence to the comedic license of a civilian checkbook hotrodder over Troy Trepanier seems irresponsible. Troys reputation has been forged by cars such as Chicayne, Sniper, Blowfish, Predator, and several of Poteets cars that they didn't even bother to name. These cars Are STILL driven, and driven hard, some on a daily basis.

[eldogg]

I agree with Bret. Be aware that car was built almost 10 years ago. I'm sure someone else has worked on it since.........

[protour73]

I have personally followed many of Troys cars around the country since 1989...sometimes at felony speeds. The design and execution of his suspension work is impeccable. His cars are fine driving machines.
I do not know what the story is on this car but it has obviously not been fully told. To immediately give credence to the comedic license of a civilian checkbook hotrodder over Troy Trepanier seems irresponsible. Troys reputation has been forged by cars such as Chicayne, Sniper, Blowfish, Predator, and several of Poteets cars that they didn't even bother to name. These cars Are STILL driven, and driven hard, some on a daily basis.

Extremely well said Bret.

Tony.....who's video? who's blog? post it up!!

[go-fish]

The design and execution of his suspension work is impeccable. His cars are fine driving machines.


Have you seen the Rides episode or know about the bad design of the front suspension they used? FWIW, Troy didn't build the front suspension, his shop installed a kit that has long been the subject of ridicule with Mopar suspension guys. The kit has a coil-over shock attached to the LCA and the thin-azz sheet metal of the inner fender. THat is no place for a coil-over to be mounted on a Mopar. I've heard of shocks punching though the inner fender and other failures. I've never seen a Magnum Force kit personally but the K-member looks like 3/4" tubing.

I think it was a combination of Rad Rides not having very much experience with Mopars at the time and the show production. I 100% agree that "Chicayne, Sniper, Blowfish, Predator, and several of Poteets cars" are super high quality builds that will stand the test of time and abuse.
Sickfish, and it's right there for viewing, was built with a low quality aftermarket front suspension. Look at right now, people in the Mopar circles are talking Hotchkis, Alter-k-tion, and XV. Where's Magnum Force in the discussion of quality front suspensions for Mopar? This is definitely not a knock on Troy an the crew, by me anyway. They have sent hundreds of cars out the door and one stand up comic's car has problems.
Would the guy be having this issue if they would have used an Alter-k-tion, XV (if they were around), OEM t-bar front, or a homogeneous design? Face facts gentlemen, I don't care if the car came from the very best builder, if he isn't familiar with, but gets sold on, a particular inferior part there may be problems a couple thousand miles down the road.

I would like a link as well. I would like to hear the full story to see if it was the coil-over that went through the inner fender or if it was where they "modified" the suspension to get a lower ride height?

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

precisely bret..






so..




what a pendejo..

[elitecustombody]

I think I saw on Lateral G it was at Bentfab few months back,not sure what they were doing to it though.

[Tony_SS]

here's the video - go to 12:20
http://blog.joerogan.net/archives/3295

He explains what happened, and said Steve Strope fixed it, then he sold it.


I have personally followed many of Troys cars around the country since 1989...sometimes at felony speeds. The design and execution of his suspension work is impeccable. His cars are fine driving machines.
I do not know what the story is on this car but it has obviously not been fully told. To immediately give credence to the comedic license of a civilian checkbook hotrodder over Troy Trepanier seems irresponsible. Troys reputation has been forged by cars such as Chicayne, Sniper, Blowfish, Predator, and several of Poteets cars that they didn't even bother to name. These cars Are STILL driven, and driven hard, some on a daily basis.

I don't think the full story has been told, but what's just as irresponsible is to discount the owner as some ignorant checkbook hotrodder and call him a "pendejo".

The guys car had a massive failure and is lucky that it happened in the driveway instead of the highway, and somehow people want to lay into him first because he's supposedly a "rich celebrity".

The whole story needs to be told, he could have took it somewhere else for something? I certainly didn't start this thread to blame any builder.. and from the vid it doesnt even sound like Joe is doing that either.

[MyFriendScott]

So, no one has asked how this will affect the shootout between Rogan and Bill Goldberg. :) What the heck is Rogan going to drive now?

[CFster]

Wouldn't have happened with an Alter-K-tion. I have one on a 64 Dodge and it's the strongest part of the car - by far. I've heard of Mopars totaled, balled up and the Alter-k was the only straight part left.

I think the idea with the Magnum Force is your supposed to build support for the shock towers - but most people don't.

[Bigblue73]

The true question is.....Who or has the car now and where is it?

[TonyL]

The true question is.....Who or has the car now and where is it?

http://tredairmotors.com/joe-rogans-1970-hemi-powered-cuda/

[go-fish]

He says in the interview that the suspension detached from the frame. I noticed in the video the Magnum Force K-frame was modified. It was supposed to attach on the underside of the frame by the original k-frame mounting bolts and in the same location. The tubular k-frame's mounting locations were cut off and welded to the inside of the frame rails.
It sounds like he is saying the welds broke on the frame. How much abuse he put it through is unknown. How many pot holes/miles/ever jack it up by the k-frame??? It did last almost a decade whereas I thought it would fail sooner when I saw it on the DVD.

[DarkBuddha]

I used to not like Brad Pitt and Adrian brody.. until they surprised me with their choice of bikes and classic japanese cars.
Eric Bana was like that for me... then I saw "Love the Beast"... I'm a Bana fan now!

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

you see.. he said " my mom had one, and i always wanted one and i finally have my dream car."


then you sell it cause one LITTLE broken part...


maybe you really didnt love it in the first place... thats why i dont respect him anymore.

Eric Bana.. GENUINELY looked heartbroken when his car was smashed to bits.. AND HE REBUILT IT!

thats what im talking about...

[andrewb70]

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Eric Bana.. GENUINELY looked heartbroken when his car was smashed to bits.. AND HE REBUILT IT!

thats what im talking about...

I hope that when Bana rebuilt his car this time around that he took Leno's words to heart. In the movie Leno told Bana that he wouldn't have smashed up the car if he had worked on it and I totally agree. When you put your hard work, sweat, and effort into a car, you are much more careful with it than if you had simply written a check.

This of course has nothing to do with the original topic, so carry on....LOL

Andrew

[DarkBuddha]

I hope that when Bana rebuilt his car this time around that he took Leno's words to heart. In the movie Leno told Bana that he wouldn't have smashed up the car if he had worked on it and I totally agree. When you put your hard work, sweat, and effort into a car, you are much more careful with it than if you had simply written a check.

This of course has nothing to do with the original topic, so carry on....LOL

Andrew
But this is part of the topic in an odd way. IMHO, Bana did it the right way... build it, beat on it, and if it breaks or you wad it up, (re)build it better. This should especially be true for cars we can now get complete chassis for. I get "collector" cars, but I'm not one much for owning a car I can't (afford to) or won't drive, maybe because I'm not privileged enough to be able to do that sorta thing. Leno drives his car, but even he'll admit that he seldom drives 'em in anger or takes 'em to the track... he's just a different kinda car guy that way.

[Flash68]

I hope that when Bana rebuilt his car this time around that he took Leno's words to heart. In the movie Leno told Bana that he wouldn't have smashed up the car if he had worked on it and I totally agree. When you put your hard work, sweat, and effort into a car, you are much more careful with it than if you had simply written a check.

This of course has nothing to do with the original topic, so carry on....LOL

Andrew

A bit off topic yes but I want to respond to this since I strongly disagree with you on yet another of the "check writer car guy" comments.

Since you watched the movie, you know that Bana and his friends wrenched on that car from the beginning and continued to upgrade it and add to it, even with their underskilled abilities. Then one day Bana gets deep in the pocketbook, so he pays a skilled builder to build his car .... CORRECTLY and with skill and precision. Something he cannot do. What's wrong with that? It was a purpose built car.

As to your "more careful because you put your own sweat bla bla bla" comment, that's hogwash. I know countless examples of guys who had someone build their car who are so damn tentative and scared to drive it. And then there are many who personally built and beat the holy shiat out of their cars and are not what anyone would call "careful" with them. Many of these examples are right here on this forum and Lat G.



You can clearly tell Bana is a competitor and Leno is not with regard to actually running a car hard. Big difference there that is relevant.

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

truth..

[Tony_SS]

As it's been said here before... there are owners and drivers.

IMHO, it matters not to what degree you 'built' or 'bought' it. And it matters not how much you're worth or your celebrity status in regards to that process.

The only thing I have a lack of respect for is the hating on someone else based on those shallow, superficial judgments or preconceived notions.

[Derek69SS]

IMHO, it matters not to what degree you 'built' or 'bought' it. And it matters not how much you're worth or your celebrity status in regards to that process.

The only thing I have a lack of respect for is the hating on someone else based on those shallow, superficial judgments or preconceived notions.

:twothumbs

A major structural suspension failure can be a tough thing to overcome mentally... a friend of mine built a car himself, and then through no fault of his own, experienced a balljoint failure. It was always on his mind when he drove it after that, and he just couldn't enjoy the car anymore. Even after changing the whole front suspension, he always had that uneasy feeling driving that car. He sold it, moved on, and built another car.

Suspension is kind of important... keeps the wheels on the car. :fingersx:

[andrewb70]

A bit off topic yes but I want to respond to this since I strongly disagree with you on yet another of the "check writer car guy" comments.

Since you watched the movie, you know that Bana and his friends wrenched on that car from the beginning and continued to upgrade it and add to it, even with their underskilled abilities. Then one day Bana gets deep in the pocketbook, so he pays a skilled builder to build his car .... CORRECTLY and with skill and precision. Something he cannot do. What's wrong with that? It was a purpose built car.

As to your "more careful because you put your own sweat bla bla bla" comment, that's hogwash. I know countless examples of guys who had someone build their car who are so damn tentative and scared to drive it. And then there are many who personally built and beat the holy shiat out of their cars and are not what anyone would call "careful" with them. Many of these examples are right here on this forum and Lat G.



You can clearly tell Bana is a competitor and Leno is not with regard to actually running a car hard. Big difference there that is relevant.

Maybe. Then again you have a biased opinion and so do I. As you said, there are examples on both sides of the issue.

Andrew

[Flash68]

As you said, there are examples on both sides of the issue.

Andrew

Exactly. Ridiculous blanket statements are just that... ridiculous.

Cheers.

[andrewb70]

Exactly. Ridiculous blanket statements are just that... ridiculous.

Cheers.

I am sure glad we resolved that....Phew...Cheers

Andrew

[TonyL]

you see.. he said " my mom had one, and i always wanted one and i finally have my dream car."


then you sell it cause one LITTLE broken part...


maybe you really didnt love it in the first place... thats why i dont respect him anymore.

Eric Bana.. GENUINELY looked heartbroken when his car was smashed to bits.. AND HE REBUILT IT!

thats what im talking about...

Rogan freely admits that he never wanted the Cuda in the first place. He only built it because the producer of Rides is a friend of his, and asked him to participate in the show. Im a old member on the Rogan Board.

Here's the relevent quote:


Fdawgthat's a nice deal you got there...did you call them or did they call you? how does that all work?

JoeRogan Actually my friend Bud is the executive producer, so he asked me to do it.
He lives right down the street from me, I sold him my old house.
I never even thought about buying a hot rod until he showed me a copy of the pilot. We've been talking about doing it for about 6 months.

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

Cements what i originally called him...

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif

[dropit69]

He's a tool..and not funny at all he better stick to his mma stuff

[DartorDemon]

I'm surprised the builders didnt know better w/ that magnum force stuff. I mean there are people who have luck using it in drag racing, but its an awful idea for PT.

[CraigMorrison]

here's the video - go to 12:20
http://blog.joerogan.net/archives/3295

He explains what happened, and said Steve Strope fixed it, then he sold it.



I don't think the full story has been told, but what's just as irresponsible is to discount the owner as some ignorant checkbook hotrodder and call him a "pendejo".

The guys car had a massive failure and is lucky that it happened in the driveway instead of the highway, and somehow people want to lay into him first because he's supposedly a "rich celebrity".

The whole story needs to be told, he could have took it somewhere else for something? I certainly didn't start this thread to blame any builder.. and from the vid it doesnt even sound like Joe is doing that either.


No, I think in the case of Joe Rogan, it's perfectly OK.


Well said as always Bret.

[CraigMorrison]

Cements what i originally called him...

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif

I was waiting to see what jpg you were going to post -- you sir, delivered!

[ace_xp2]

A bit off topic yes but I want to respond to this since I strongly disagree with you on yet another of the "check writer car guy" comments.

Since you watched the movie, you know that Bana and his friends wrenched on that car from the beginning and continued to upgrade it and add to it, even with their underskilled abilities. Then one day Bana gets deep in the pocketbook, so he pays a skilled builder to build his car .... CORRECTLY and with skill and precision. Something he cannot do.

But that's kind of like having someone else playing your guitar with skill and precision, that's great, but it's not as cool as when you get to the point where you can do the same thing. And you'll never get there if you keep handing your guitar off.
Hey, if you don't have the time, you don't have the time, but I think the disconnect here is that some people see this as relatively the same thing, if you don't take the time to do it yourself and learn the skills, you're missing out on part of the fun.

[Flash68]

But that's kind of like having someone else playing your guitar with skill and precision, that's great, but it's not as cool as when you get to the point where you can do the same thing. And you'll never get there if you keep handing your guitar off.
Hey, if you don't have the time, you don't have the time, but I think the disconnect here is that some people see this as relatively the same thing, if you don't take the time to do it yourself and learn the skills, you're missing out on part of the fun.

This thread has derailed so it's my last post. Your analogy is invalid. If you talked about the BUILDER of the guitar, then it would make some sense. Because the owner could then play the guitar. So a guitar player is supposed to learn how to skillfully build a guitar like a craftsman? Come on. Some people like to build cars (guys that spend 3-5 years building a car, then immediately sell it) and some like to drive. Some both.

[ace_xp2]

Hey, that's a good point!
I guess it's just that in this hobby the builders and the "players" rub shoulders a lot more, so this inevitably comes up.
There's really TWO hobbies, they're just interrelated.

[andrewb70]

I think that about wraps it up for this thread.

Andrew