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ROBS6T8
05-14-2011, 07:38 AM
Hello everyone. I finally decided to start a build thread. A lil' history on the car: I bought it off of Evil Bay in 2005. "All it needed was paint!"
I didn't have a plan and just wanted to drive and enjoy her.
I now have a plan... daily driver with some autocross and maybe a track day or two. I'm just tired of seeing her sit in the garage! All work will be/has been done in the garage.
It's going to be a budget build until I get the go-ahead from the wife. Right now we're going through infertility treatment and that can cost a lot more than building this car.
I want to get her done by this August for Hot August Nights and what was going to be the Camaro Performers event. I'm tired of spending the money and not having the car at HAN! :nopity:
Thanks for looking and enjoy. :cheers:

When I brought her home...

ROBS6T8
05-14-2011, 07:47 AM
Then I started poking around at this "only needed paint" and found a few things! Sheet metal, rivets and sealant! Nice pedals and that engine comparment, let's just say, Ugly!

rfalker1
05-14-2011, 07:48 AM
good luck, with the build and what are the plans, before I say terrible things about following a budget lol!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ron.in.SoCal
05-14-2011, 07:58 AM
About time Robert! Good luck on the build and keep us updated...

ROBS6T8
05-14-2011, 07:59 AM
Orignally I didn't think I was going to take the windows out. Therefore, I replaced the floor pan in two halves. This was going to be my first time welding sheetmetal with a mig. I figured it was going to be covered with carpet anyway. How hard could it be and it was a nice place to practice! Afterwards, I covered the entire thing with Por-15. I know it's only for rusted metal and there was still some in there, but what's a lil' added protection. Fatmat will be installed as well.
More to come...

ROBS6T8
05-14-2011, 08:15 AM
Thanks Randall. Budget? What exactly is that? lol I'm happy to report that the wife is onboard to a degree. The family thing is a lot more important. You'll see what I mean in a few...

Yeah Ron it has been awhile. I just don't get around to posting very often. I figured it will help keep me motivated to get this done!

ROBS6T8
05-14-2011, 08:31 AM
I took the motor and trans out so I could prep and paint the compartment. While this was going on, I also added a few goodies to the subframe and freshend her up a bit!
The LCA were powdercoated and delulum bushings installed. Hotchkis 2" lowering springs with swaybar. SPC adjustable UCA with Power Performance tall balljoints. Single adjustable Varishocks. I think that's about it. I've already installed the IROC box before the tear apart!

Oh yeah, the wife onboard comment... as you can see the wheels are Rushforth brushed superspoke with clear. 17x8 up front with Nitto 555 245/45/17. Not bad for a Christmas present this past year! :1st: :jawdrop:

Enjoy....

ROBS6T8
05-14-2011, 08:46 AM
Oh yeah, I forgot to post my rendering I had done by Shawn at Mascoll Designs. Great guy to work with. Also a lil' practice on my mailbox. The wife wasn't too sure about the color so what a better way to show her the true color! She's not too sure about me painting this thing in the garage. Isn't that what a home built (budget) car is?

rfalker1
05-14-2011, 10:51 AM
Yea, now thats what I am talking about ;) . And do understand about the family thing, they come first of course. Best of luck to. It seems as if you have already made alot of progress

dropit69
05-14-2011, 11:08 AM
Loving the color and rendering..if ya paint in garage just make sure if its a attached garage to keep the thing sealed up from house my buddy forgot his vent went inside house and it smelled for a week..lol

ROBS6T8
05-14-2011, 02:37 PM
Randal, progress yes! I'm saving the hard stuff for last. That should begin in a couple of weeks. I'm replacing the quarters and maybe a lil homemade mini tub. I can't spend $400 right now for the DSE tubs. I just need an inch! lol... leave that one alone!

Darrin, no probs on the garage. That would suck though. I remember my wife complaining of the paint supplies my friend and I took to work smelling up her car! Working graveyards we had a lil' down time! That's where the mailbox was done. Then I brought it home and cleared it a few hours later.

ROBS6T8
05-14-2011, 02:39 PM
So I was looking over the 7 acres the other day and found a pick up bed that was used as a trailer for dump runs. I decided to haul to more suitable ground and remove the rear end. After a cuople of hours, I found a 9 inch with 3.25 gears, 31 spline axles and posi... according to the tag info! My question to you is, do I use it? It is 61" from mounting flange to mounting flange. The camaro is 60"? correct? I have an 8.2 10 bolt peg leg with 3.08. If it was a 8.5, I would keep it and build it up. What's going to be a better route to go? Easier? Cheaper? I know I'll have to reweld some mounts and I believe the pinion is going to be a bit off center. How much is okay? Then again when I take the third member out, it might not even be worth it. It's been sitting for some time but nothing was locked up.
Thanks for any input in this.

ROBS6T8
06-01-2011, 08:15 PM
Robert, If you stop by, here is a pic of the firewall I was talking about. You can see the patch job right above the heater core area. My question was should I just seal the seam or use filler and semi smooth the area and seal the rest of the seam. I'm not building a show car. The patch job was filled and the rest of the seam had sealer on it. Thanks.
Little things like this really put a damper on my progress!

rfalker1
06-08-2011, 12:09 AM
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Randal, progress yes! I'm saving the hard stuff for last. That should begin in a couple of weeks. I'm replacing the quarters and maybe a lil homemade mini tub. I can't spend $400 right now for the DSE tubs. I just need an inch! lol... leave that one alone!

You might be able to skip the mini tub and just roll the fender lips. That should give you nearly an 3/4th's of an inch for your rear wheels. ANd how big do you plan on going in the back is the other question.

Also I don't know about the rear end. I have 8.2 in my camaro too. So basically, I just bought a rebuild kit with all new interns except the axle's and went from there. But I don't plan on launching mine on a drag strip much. Not really me. Now the question what will you be using yours for and how much can u get the axle for??? looks like your making good progress too.
Keep up the good work

ROBS6T8
06-12-2011, 06:02 PM
Hey randall thanks for stopping by. My problem is with the inner wheel well area! I have a 1/2 inch of room... not enough. I'm sure there will be rubbing. I won't be launching mine from any drag strips either. Some autocrosses and maybe a track day or two a year. Mainly a daily driver. I want to see some heads turn! :twothumbs:

ROBS6T8
06-12-2011, 07:07 PM
Well I've been working on the firewall for the last few weeks. It's only taken me about 24 hours actual time. Just been confused as to what exactly I want! I have to keep telling myself that I'm not building a piano! Here's what I started with after some grinding.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/06/fw1-1.jpg

Then I ran into this patch panel and this is where the problems started. Do I fill it? If I do, why not smooth the entire firewall? Then I told myself, I'm not building a show car!
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/06/wtfpatch-1.jpg

After some primer and some Eastwood Underhood Black, this is what I came up with. No sanding between coats... I'm not building a show car. And it looks a helluva lot better than when I started.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/06/finishedfw-1.jpg

Then I was able to roll the subframe back in underneath. I feel so much better that I finally completed this part. Solid bushings installed as well!
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/06/sfreinstalled-1.jpg

rustomatic
06-12-2011, 07:19 PM
That is one sweet mailbox!

rfalker1
06-13-2011, 02:26 AM
the firewall and subframe look great!!! its coming along Robert

So what did you decide for the rear end?? New or rebuild, I have a guy who fives out great prices for the rear and pinion gear.
and what about the wheels, i am still in the dark with the inch part

ROBS6T8
06-13-2011, 04:31 AM
That is one sweet mailbox!
Thank you. And living somewhat in the country it's still there!


the firewall and subframe look great!!! its coming along Robert

So what did you decide for the rear end?? New or rebuild, I have a guy who fives out great prices for the rear and pinion gear.
and what about the wheels, i am still in the dark with the inch part
The rear wheel is 17x10 orginally made for a 69. I won't run anything bigger than a 295 on it. 275 now. It fits but once I start driving the piss out of her, there will be some rubbing!
As for the rear end, who knows. If it was an 8.5, I would rebuild it and make it stronger. With this 8.2 I have there really isn't a way to make it much stronger.

1968CamaroSS_Sam
06-13-2011, 08:27 AM
Robert it is looking great. Keep at it. As for the family thing. I hope you guys get your kids. You seem like a well grounded guy. Family is first. Some of my favorite times are with my kids in there with me.

ROBS6T8
06-13-2011, 09:19 AM
Thanks for the kind words Sam. Someday it will happen one way or the other. Hopefully sooner than later!

edog1
06-13-2011, 08:46 PM
Great start. "All it needed was paint!" I think we have all been there and learned that lesson.

ROBS6T8
07-01-2011, 05:40 PM
Haven't posted in awhile. This is what I've been working on...
I had some Eastwood underhood black left over so I decided to paint the inside of the fenders for a lil' added protection. Why? I don't know... something to do!
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/07/uhblkfender-1.jpg

I picked up a can of the Rustoleum undercoating for $7. I'll let you know if it's any good in a few months! It went on nice but after two coats, the can was empty. Enough for one inner fender.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/07/innerfender-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/07/innercoating-1.jpg

I've had a Wilwood box sitting in my garage for over a week now. I should continue with body work but maybe I'll open the box!

craigs73
07-01-2011, 06:02 PM
i have the same stuff lol was going to use it for inner structure while replacing the quarters its better than nothing and it being inside there should be fine

ROBS6T8
07-01-2011, 06:19 PM
Well I opened the Wilwood box and here's what was inside...
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/07/goodies-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/07/caliper-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/07/hub-1.jpg

It was worth the lil' look I got from the wife when we got home from work and the box was at the door! lol :naughty: I told her this was one of the less expensive kits. Everything was okay until I told her this was just for the front! :help!:

ROBS6T8
07-01-2011, 06:24 PM
With Sharpie in hand, I grabbed the hub and went to the wheels to make sure I installed the studs in the appropriate holes!
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/07/backside-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/07/studs-1.jpg

Now the problem is how do I tighten these things to 77 ft. lbs.? I can't grab on to the hub good enough. I tried to put a wood block between the studs. I'll ask the wife for a hand.

ROBS6T8
07-01-2011, 06:26 PM
I packed the bearings and dropped them in along with the seal.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/07/seal-1.jpg

Question... does the seal sit flush with the hub or does it bottom out with the lip inside the hub? The bearing has some movement.

chunger
07-01-2011, 06:28 PM
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/07/studs-1.jpg

Now the problem is how do I tighten these things to 77 ft. lbs.? I can't grab on to the hub good enough. I tried to put a wood block between the studs. I'll ask the wife for a hand.

The way I've put studs in before is to slip a larger nut down over the stud, then tighten a wheel nut onto the stud. That will pull the stud into place on your hub. It may, however, mark up the finish on the hubs.

ROBS6T8
07-01-2011, 06:30 PM
Then came the adapter and the rotor...
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/07/adapterfront-1.jpg

After the bolts were torqued to 180 in lbs, I attempted to safety wire for the first time...
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/07/safety1-1.jpg

The next three attempts were much better. I couldn't say that for the pliers though. They broke! That's what you get for $20 off of Ebay. Nothing the weldr couldn't fix though.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/07/048-1.jpg

All done with the wiring. I almost want to go back and re-do the first one. I don't think it's coming apart and no one is going to be looking at it!
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/07/safteydone-1.jpg

robertjra
07-01-2011, 08:41 PM
the seal will sit flush do not push it down your bearing will not have any play once to bolt it to the spindle

Trevon
07-01-2011, 09:13 PM
I like safety wiring and do it quite a bit -- some info for it, should be between 7-12 twists per inch with a ~1/2" pig tail folded under itself in a way that also tightens. Not bad for a first attempt and should be fine there, but a couple are somewhat neutral :dunno: So long as its pretty tight, should be good

And I think this convinced me to get those brakes as well! :cool:

Blown73
07-01-2011, 10:01 PM
Hey Robert, sweet ride! It looks like its coming along well! I know how the "all it needs is paint" thing goes, I just assume that it needs everything anymore. But, hey, whats life without projects!?

MyFriendScott
07-03-2011, 05:42 AM
I'm having fun keeping up with your progress, lots of fun stuff you're doing. I noticed the aftermarket A-arms in the build but saw you didn't perform the Gulstrand mod while the subframe is out. Are you using a tall spindle or ball joint to help out with the suspension geometry?

craigs73
07-03-2011, 05:51 AM
Well I opened the Wilwood box and here's what was inside...
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/07/goodies-1.jpg



there goes the budget lol!!

ROBS6T8
07-03-2011, 07:01 AM
the seal will sit flush do not push it down your bearing will not have any play once to bolt it to the spindle
Thakns for the info. When I removed the old ones they also had some play in them.

I like safety wiring and do it quite a bit -- some info for it, should be between 7-12 twists per inch with a ~1/2" pig tail folded under itself in a way that also tightens. Not bad for a first attempt and should be fine there, but a couple are somewhat neutral :dunno: So long as its pretty tight, should be good

And I think this convinced me to get those brakes as well! :cool:

I read the 7-12 twists per inch somewhere. I was worried about breaking the wire. I guess it's pretty strong stuff! The brakes are nice... a lot better than the old rusty looking ones! I'll post some more pics later today.


Hey Robert, sweet ride! It looks like its coming along well! I know how the "all it needs is paint" thing goes, I just assume that it needs everything anymore. But, hey, whats life without projects!?

Yes, it keeps me outta the bars!


I'm having fun keeping up with your progress, lots of fun stuff you're doing. I noticed the aftermarket A-arms in the build but saw you didn't perform the Gulstrand mod while the subframe is out. Are you using a tall spindle or ball joint to help out with the suspension geometry?

Yes, I have the .5 in Power Perfromance tall ball joints. My other subframe I had I did the Guldstrand mod on. With everything still in... piece of cake! Cheap too.


there goes the budget lol!!

Too funny! I guess the budget is more or less doing everything myself! I'll go with a labor budget build.

Thanks for looking guys. I'll be posting some more pics today. I had issues with the dust shield yesterday. I don't think I'll be running one. Also have to go get a new bolt for the spindle. The last brakes I put on came with a long bolt that I had to take a hacksaw to so it wouldn't interfere with anything. The Wilwood kit didn't provide this one bolt! So to the hardware store for a proper size bolt!

rfalker1
07-03-2011, 10:18 AM
Robert that eastwood black is nice!!!! I wonder if i would need to take out the fender to do it or could i mask it off

Motown 454
07-03-2011, 10:41 AM
Nice job! Those are some nice breaks.

icemanrd19
07-03-2011, 04:48 PM
I never even thought about coating the inside of my rear quarters and fenders.

ROBS6T8
07-03-2011, 07:05 PM
As promised, here are some more pics.
Here's a pic of the old assembly.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/07/old-1.jpg

Here's the old bracket and dust shield.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/07/oldbracketshield-1.jpg

Enough of the old, let's get to the good stuff! twothumbs:

ROBS6T8
07-03-2011, 07:08 PM
In this pic you can see where I had issues with the dust shield. Even if I cut the circular area out, I would still have to do some more cutting or pounding to make it work. Therefore, i'm going shieldless!
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/07/shieldissues-1.jpg

I got the bracket installed and everything torqued down.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/07/brktinstall-1.jpg

ROBS6T8
07-03-2011, 07:19 PM
Next I installed the rotor assembly along with the outer bearing.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/07/rotorinstall-1.jpg

I had some issues with this. When I went to tighten the spindle nut down, it ran out of threads! I was no where near to the point I needed to be. So I decided to use the old spindle washer along with the new one. The one that was in the kit was thicker but obviously not thick enough. I will contact Wilwood on Tuesday. Do any of you see a problem with this? I was able to adjust everything to OEM specs afterwards.
Another issue was with the dust cap... awesome by the way. A lot better than trying to tap the damn thing in like on the old ones! What a PITA! Anyway the issues was with the cotter pin. It was hitting the dust cap and i could feel it when i was turning the rotor. A lil' massaging of the cotter pin and all is well.

ROBS6T8
07-03-2011, 07:23 PM
The caliper was next. Pretty straight forward.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/07/caliperinstall-1.jpg

In this pic you can see the bolt at the top (pointing down). They provided you with many shims but suggested you start with two to begin with. Two shims betwen the caliper and the bracket. This was to center everything up and to make sure the bolt end was even with or just protruding from the bracket. Two shims did the trick.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/07/shim-1.jpg

ROBS6T8
07-03-2011, 07:27 PM
Here she is all done. I'm liking the contrast between the black caliper and the wheel. I could have gone bigger but money is tight. I'm liking it! :jump:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/07/wheelwood-1.jpg

ROBS6T8
07-03-2011, 07:31 PM
Robert that eastwood black is nice!!!! I wonder if i would need to take out the fender to do it or could i mask it off

Are you talking about doing the inner fenders? If so, you could mask off the fender but I don't know how well the coverage would be inside on the inners. make sense?

rfalker1
07-03-2011, 10:53 PM
true, but the question is could I just pull the fenders off with removing the metal front panels... (I cant think of what they are called at the moment "VEgas" lol)

ROBS6T8
07-04-2011, 06:16 AM
true, but the question is could I just pull the fenders off with removing the metal front panels... (I cant think of what they are called at the moment "VEgas" lol)

Okay, yes you can just remove the entire fender. It's attached in the front to the header panel and the lower valance. Don't forget to count the shims and where they go!

ROBS6T8
07-04-2011, 10:57 AM
Happy Birthday USA!
I went out early this morning to try and beat the heat. Got the driverside done and it wasn't too bad knowing what I was in for. I only had to use one spindle nut though. I tried it with the two and I couldn't even get the spindle nut to the hole. WTF? Oh well. I'll be contacting Wilwood tomorrow and see what they have to say.
I put the caliper on and bolted it down and something wasn't right. The bolt end was about to hit the rotor! I used the same amount of shims (2). I was ready to add another shim and as I was reomving the bolt, I looked over and the box of shims and what did I see... two washers that I forgot to use with the bolts. Duh! Problem solved.
I safety wired the caliper bolts and it wasn't as bad as I expected. It was just a weee bit tight in there.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/07/calipersafety-1.jpg

I then installed the pads. Wow talk about easy! Remove fancy pin, drop said pads in, reinstall pin, Done. I can see how nice it would be to change the pads, say for a track day. Two minutes then some bedding in time.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/07/padinstall-1.jpg

cobragt
07-04-2011, 09:17 PM
Thanks' for the info on the Wilwoods This will come in handy when I order mine.

ROBS6T8
07-06-2011, 07:32 PM
No problem Paul. Isn't that we are all here for... help one another with these pics and write ups? lol
I spoke with Wilwood the other day about the spindle washer issue and they seemed surprise also. They said it would NOT be a problem with two washers on. As long as it's (bearings) adjusted right.
This weekend... cutting quarter panels out and homemade mini tub? We'll see and post pics of course!

rfalker1
07-08-2011, 08:27 AM
Okay, yes you can just remove the entire fender. It's attached in the front to the header panel and the lower valance. Don't forget to count the shims and where they go!

cool thanks for the info!!! that will be a project for a later date!!! your brakes are sick to by the way

ROBS6T8
07-17-2011, 07:24 PM
cool thanks for the info!!! that will be a project for a later date!!! your brakes are sick to by the way

No problem Randal. Thank you for the compliments on the brakes.

I need to get to the quarters but something always comes up. I need to make a list and start with number 1! I had some left over Valspar primer so I decided to spray the inner fenders and the radiator support.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/07/innerprm-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/07/radsupprm-1.jpg

ROBS6T8
07-17-2011, 07:25 PM
I then took the remaining Eastwood Underhood Black and sprayed them.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/07/radsupeastblk-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/07/innereastblk-1.jpg

ROBS6T8
07-17-2011, 07:30 PM
I attempted to weld the cowl panel on and had nothing but problems. First the heat was too high. Kept burning holes in the new, thinner metal. Then turned the heat down, welded, beautiful weld, then 'pop' it didn't hold! I blame it on the weld thru primer! lol When I welded the inside I first removed all the primer (being inside) who cares, and I had no problems with the welds... beautiful!
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/07/cowlpanel-1.jpg

ROBS6T8
07-17-2011, 07:49 PM
Well I don't think I'll be ready for Hot August Nights yet another year!! :nopity: So my next event to shoot for will be Buttonwillow in Sept. There will be a few PT peeps there and should be a lot of fun. I'm tired of missing all these fun events. Not this one! :twothumbs:

ROBS6T8
07-24-2011, 02:17 PM
I was cleaning the cowl area today and have a few questions for all of you.
1. What are your thoughts on painting the dash the same as the body color?
2. What type of seam sealer did they use in these areas. It's not your typical sealer as it was applied to bare metal. I thought you primered first then put down the seam sealer.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/07/upcowl-1.jpg

No rust issues until the very bottom of the cowl.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/07/lowcowl-1.jpg

Why the clump of sealer here along with other areas?
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/07/goop-1.jpg

Thanks guys.

ROBS6T8
07-24-2011, 02:23 PM
Some other problems I ran into. When I installed the Wilwood flex lines I turned the tire to make sure there was no binding or clearance issues. Come to find out I did have some clearance issues. It appears the 245's on 17x8 wheels are going to hit the UCA and the subframe. I was thinking these would clear with no problems. That's what I get for thinking. I'll have to investigate this. David Pozzi asked if I could move the wheels out more? Not quite to that stage yet! I guess I could throw a fender on and see what happens. but then again there is no motor in it. Would that really matter?
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/07/ucaclear-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/07/sfclear-1.jpg

MyFriendScott
07-24-2011, 07:15 PM
What's the rim's backspacing on that 17x8?

johnny68
07-24-2011, 07:25 PM
IMO if your doing a black interior then do the dash black, im putting epoxy primer on cowl and firewall than the seam sealer that way the primer gets into the seams for protection im using a sealer in a tube like caulking, thats a big bummer about your wheels sorry to here it
john

robertjra
07-24-2011, 07:42 PM
[QUOTE=ROBS6T8;814777]The caliper was next. Pretty straight forward.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/07/caliperinstall-1.jpg

looks like you have a little someone checking out your new brakes

ROBS6T8
07-24-2011, 08:20 PM
Thanks for stopping by guys.


IMO if your doing a black interior then do the dash black, im putting epoxy primer on cowl and firewall than the seam sealer that way the primer gets into the seams for protection im using a sealer in a tube like caulking, thats a big bummer about your wheels sorry to here it
john
That's what I was thinking... black! But I wanted to get some color on there and since I was doing the cowl area, I figured I could just continue into the dash and spray some Tangelo! I don't know. The sealer thing has thrown me. The sealer I used previously was in a caulking gun also. I applied it after the primer. This stuff I removed was black in color and there was no primer under it. Just plain metal as you see in the pics.

[QUOTE=ROBS6T8;814777]The caliper was next. Pretty straight forward.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/07/caliperinstall-1.jpg

looks like you have a little someone checking out your new brakes
I forgot about him! lol I was wondering if anyone would see him. He pretty much hung around after the assembly was installed. Too funny.


What's the rim's backspacing on that 17x8?
The back spacing is 4.875. I really didn't think I would have any problems with this. I'm not too concerned yet. I'll let the build get a lil' further.

ROBS6T8
08-17-2011, 08:22 PM
SO I got back from Hot August Nights and as always a lot of beautiful cars. Got some more motivation to jump in with both feet. What was I thinking? :lol: I think i've bit off more than I can chew and I wasn't even hungry!
My plan was to replace the quarter panel and the outer wheel house. I'm cheap and the family is coming first. So I decided to buy the skin, and go that route. I know more work and blah, blah, blah. I also wanted to do a mini-mini tub while I was in there!

What rust?
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/08/rearwell-1.jpg

What bondo?
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/08/frtwell2-1.jpg

I didn't know there were exhaust manifolds in the quarter?
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/08/rearqtrconts-1.jpg

Questions to follow....

ROBS6T8
08-17-2011, 08:31 PM
Quarter is removed...
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/08/qpremoved-1.jpg

The good news is the trunk pan appears to be rust free!
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/08/trunkpan-1.jpg

So now I got to thinking how I was going to get in there and remove the inner without screwing it all up to make my mini-mini tub? I have an idea where some of the spot welds are for the deck lid support but I have to deal with the rollbar.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/08/rollinner-1.jpg

I've seen in other threads they just cut the inner and outer at the seam. Are there numerous spot welds holding these together? I found two where I started removing the undercoating.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/08/wellremvl-1.jpg

I'm thinking it might be easier to buy new inners and not worry too much about destroying these. I'm only looking at gaining an inch on the inside to fit these 10" wheels. They fit now but I'm sure once the rear starts articulating (sticking w/ leafs) there is gonna be some rubbing. Can I just notch out the inner where the tire would rub and fab a close out piece and weld in?
I'm open to all comments and suggestions!! :cheers:

ROBS6T8
09-20-2011, 07:42 AM
I've decided to do away with my mini tub project. I don't have the time or the money and all I do is look at this thing sitting in the garage. I know it would be more difficult to do it later but if I want to I can later! Anywho, I can't stay on one thing too long. As I can't finish it before moving on to something else. I'm sure it will bite me later but oh well.
I wanted to get the dash done so I could get the steering back in. Jump right to that...
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/09/dashprimer-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/09/intdashprimer-1.jpg

ROBS6T8
09-20-2011, 07:49 AM
Then it came time for some color. I like seeing some color on her. It lil' more motivation to get out there and finish up the quarters! :lol:

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/09/ylwpearl1-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/09/ylwpearl-1.jpg

My last coat of clear and WTF was I thinking! I got too close with the gun and the all mighty run appeared. Oh well it's only the glove box door. Should be easy enough to repair. It's the perfect time for "run" practice.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/09/glvbxrun-1.jpg

Let me tell you, trying to paint the interior of the dash is a PITA with a full size gun.

ROBS6T8
09-20-2011, 07:53 AM
I also got the Hotchkis leaf springs in. Pretty straight forward, but nothing goes as planned for me. I had my issues but got it all straigtened out. Working on routing the brake lines now. Will post some pics once I get them installed. I do know that these newer brake lines are a lot stronger(harder) than the old. Either that or unless you spend $$$ on a flaring tool they all suck!

ROBS6T8
09-20-2011, 08:05 AM
By the way, these blocks work great!

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/09/blockswrk-1.jpg

rfalker1
09-20-2011, 08:08 AM
That is very orangy lol.... but it looks goods. And don't worry about minitubing it now, cause mine isn't either loooool. (I dont want to be jealous)

Ron.in.SoCal
09-20-2011, 08:18 AM
That color pops Robert!

ROBS6T8
09-20-2011, 12:07 PM
Thanks for stoppiing by guys. It's been a while since I posted on here.


That is very orangy lol.... but it looks goods. And don't worry about minitubing it now, cause mine isn't either loooool. (I dont want to be jealous)
Thus the appropriate name! Yeah, I need to get this thing done. I'm missing all these fun events.


That color pops Robert!
Thanks Ron. I'm liking the fact that I went with the white sealer... just a lil extra pop! And the wife is liking the color even more now. She's seeing the yellow pearl in it and loving it!

Brakes are almost done. Waiting to find a pic of the emergency brake cable hook up. I'm sure I'll have some more pics up later...

ROBS6T8
09-21-2011, 07:34 AM
I had to make a piece for the prop valve to mount to. I've seen these mounted to the fromnt of the MC, just below it, and on the firewall. I decided to mount it just behind the booster.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/09/profab-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/09/provalve-1.jpg

ROBS6T8
09-21-2011, 07:38 AM
I used one of the booster mount studs to mount the prop valve. I made sure I wouldn't have any clearance issues with the fuse block.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/09/proinstall-1.jpg

I tried to use all the stainless lines I had. This line originally went to the front left. Now it supplies the tee.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/09/frtbrklines-1.jpg

This line was originally used with the stock metering block. Now going to the front left. Worked out perfect!

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/09/tee-1.jpg

Hotchkis
09-21-2011, 08:51 AM
I also got the Hotchkis leaf springs in. Pretty straight forward, but nothing goes as planned for me. I had my issues but got it all straigtened out. Working on routing the brake lines now. Will post some pics once I get them installed. I do know that these newer brake lines are a lot stronger(harder) than the old. Either that or unless you spend $$$ on a flaring tool they all suck!


Robert – Your Camaro project is looking good. Nice Orange!

ROBS6T8
09-21-2011, 09:46 AM
Thanks Hotchkis. I'm liking your products. Waiting to see if I bought the leafs for nothing as I'm waiting for more info on your new rear suspension product!

Greasy63
09-21-2011, 10:03 AM
nice build!

GL w/the rest

Hotchkis
09-23-2011, 09:40 AM
Thanks Hotchkis. I'm liking your products. Waiting to see if I bought the leafs for nothing as I'm waiting for more info on your new rear suspension product!


Hey Rob! Thanks for the inquiry. Since the cat is out of the bag on our new system, we still canít get into the full plan yet (official launch is SEMA) but hereís how it sits right now. The first 3-link will be for the 2nd Gen F-Body platform, which will be launched at SEMA. That will be followed shortly thereafter with a 1st Gen system, but that is still in the R&D phase and wonít be available until (early) next year.

irregal83
09-23-2011, 02:29 PM
nice build man! love the color!!

ndm68
09-24-2011, 07:25 PM
That orange is going to look awesome

mikey
09-24-2011, 08:48 PM
I'm not a big fan of alot of oranges but I'm really liking yours. I also like your drip mat

ROBS6T8
09-26-2011, 07:34 PM
Hey Rob! Thanks for the inquiry. Since the cat is out of the bag on our new system, we still can’t get into the full plan yet (official launch is SEMA) but here’s how it sits right now. The first 3-link will be for the 2nd Gen F-Body platform, which will be launched at SEMA. That will be followed shortly thereafter with a 1st Gen system, but that is still in the R&D phase and won’t be available until (early) next year.

Thank you. I think I can wait until then. I have too much on my plate now and just want to drive this thing!


nice build man! love the color!!
Thank you. I wanted a hugger orange but that's too boring! LOL


That orange is going to look awesome
Thanks. And more importantly the wife likes it too! What's that saying... " A happy wife , makes for a happy life"


I'm not a big fan of alot of oranges but I'm really liking yours. I also like your drip mat
Thanks Mike. I used to work for the Bud distributor so I have my access to free drip mats! LOL
Need one? Superbowl is right around the corner!

ROBS6T8
09-26-2011, 07:46 PM
So I'm at a waiting period now. After I got the new clutch and tranny bolted up and the engine dropped in, I found out that the clutch fork hits the fire wall. After doing a search over on TC, the consensus was wrong clutch fork. But it worked before the swap of the clutch and T/O bearing. Then I saw the warning on the Centerforce paperwork:
CAUTION: IF YOUR VEHICLE IS EQUIPPED WITH A CAST IRON
THROWOUT BEARING ARM, CENTERFORCE THROWOUT BEARING
N1430 WILL NEED TO BE USED.

I installed the other T/O bearing. I took a grinder to the fork and it threw sparks like a "sparkler" on 4th of July. Cast iron correct? Not the long streaming ones when cutting steel body panels. I had a few say it was the wrong bearing. I'm going bearing route first. If it doesn't solve the problem then I'll replace the fork.
I'll let you know what i find out. Any thoughts?

jhiphopjunky
09-26-2011, 08:57 PM
Love that color!

Hotchkis
09-30-2011, 10:00 AM
Thank you. I think I can wait until then. I have too much on my plate now and just want to drive this thing!



Rob Ė Will you be at SEMA for the news about the 3-link?

ROBS6T8
09-30-2011, 06:52 PM
I have no idea right now. I would love to get down there and check it out. The wife has been and I haven't... imagine that! LOL We're working weekends right now but we could try to get some days off. Does it start on a Thursday? Let me look into it. It would be fun.

ROBS6T8
10-07-2011, 07:18 AM
Well not being able to finish one thing before starting another I almost got something else done! After I got the new clutch assembly(wife's Christmas present 2 years ago!) bolted in and the tranny bolted back up I dropped everything back in. I was laying under the car and noticed that the clutch fork was going to hit the firewall. I had the wife push in on the pedal and sure enough wasn't going anywhere! I did a search and found that I had the wrong clutch fork. Why did it work before? Centerforce said if I had a cast iron clutch fork I needed a different T/O bearing. I did a spark test on it and thought I had a cast iron fork. Bought the other T/O bearing and went to work. We removed the tranny and compared the two bearings. They looked identical! WTF? So thanks to another TC member, I modified the clutch fork.
Before:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/10/cfmark-1.jpg

After:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/10/cfcut-1.jpg

We buttoned everything back up and it went together sooo easy. What a surprise! I went inside pushed in on the pedal and I had "gobs" of room! His words.

ROBS6T8
10-07-2011, 07:19 AM
I said I almost got something done. The next problem was when we went to bolt the crossmember back in and get the tranny lined up. The previous owner had modified a turbo 400 crossmember, I think, to make it work with the Muncie. There was no way the tranny was going to line up with the mount without seriously tweaking it into place. No need for extra strain on it!
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/10/xmemmount-1.jpg



I will remove both of the mounts and re-weld the original mount onto the right side where they had welded the homemade channel mount. I will get the crossmember back in and line everything up and tack the mount in place. Remove and finish welding it. Photos and progress to be posted later today... hopefully!

ROBS6T8
01-12-2012, 07:40 AM
Didn't realize how long it's been since I posted! It's like I fell of the face of the Earth! There's been a lot of honey-dos, trips to Disneyland, birthdays, holidays.... no excuses. Let's get caught up. Spring is right around the corner... or is it here already in California? LOL

Here's a pic of the finished xmember. That was not as easy as I was expecting. Keep this, toss that, re-weld done... NOT! The original mounting bracket that I was going to keep ended up being too short. I had to get some new metal and make my own. After tacking it on a few times and realigning it under the car, I was able to finally weld it up. Hopefully it want be under there too long as I want to go with a 5 or 6 speed tranny.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/01/custxmemb-1.jpg

ROBS6T8
01-12-2012, 07:45 AM
The wife hooked me up for my birthday with this beautiful leather piece...

MOMO Race steering wheel
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/01/momo-1.jpg

A little motivation to get out there and get to work. Won't need this if she's up on blocks!

ROBS6T8
01-12-2012, 07:50 AM
The wife gave me some more motivation at Christmas. She bought me a Barch Designs optima tray... www.optimatrays.com Benjamin is a great guy and customer service is awesome.

Location for the battery...right rear
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/01/054-1.jpg

Tray installed
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/01/055-1.jpg

Slip Clamp installed
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/01/056-1.jpg

Battery installed
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/01/057-1.jpg

It's a beautiful piece. I'm installing the MAD electrical trunk mount kit as well. I'll post some pics of the mounting locations and wire routing when finished.
Enough of this easy stuff. I need to get to welding the outer on and the quarter panel.

ROBS6T8
01-12-2012, 07:52 AM
Oh yeah, here's the other project I started months ago! Told you I suffered from ADD!
This is the module for the keyless ignition. I installed it under the dash on the lefthand side. I was held up with all the other stuff ie., engine and tranny install and of course no battery installed! lol
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/01/keylessmod-1.jpg

ROBS6T8
01-18-2012, 05:48 PM
The wife also bought me some Spaghetti Engineering LED tail lights. I couldn't just put them in the stock bezels so I took out the bezels and had them powdercoated. I wanted to get some billet ones but I couldn't see spending $400+ right now. This cost me $80! I really like the way they turned out. Who knows how long it will be before I purchase the billet ones now! :yeah:

Old...

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/01/bezelold-1.jpg

Powdercoat...

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/01/bezel-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/01/bezellenses-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/01/bezels-1.jpg

rfalker1
01-18-2012, 05:53 PM
i like the tailights robert... and understand slowwwwww mine has been going on for 17 months now I think!!! I can't wait till its finished so the money pit can stop gobbling my money lmao

ROBS6T8
01-18-2012, 06:39 PM
I hear you Randal. I bought mine in Feb. 05. Didn't really start working on her until 2 summers ago. It's been long enough! the wife just gave me the okay to pick up a used 12 bolt from a 68 Camaro so I won't be doing any fabrication on the 9 inch I have. I can say good by to the 8.2... good riddens. The rear end will be put on the back burner until I can get the QP's welded in and start the body work!

rfalker1
01-18-2012, 08:49 PM
i have just beefed my 8.2 with an eaton copy differential and moser axles... they say its good to about 500 hp running slicks... soooo i think i will be ok ;) .
Good luck with the body work tooo.. that oddly enough is the last thing i will do on mine. Maybe in a couple of years

WILWAXU
01-18-2012, 11:03 PM
I like that battery tray!

ROBS6T8
01-19-2012, 08:00 AM
i have just beefed my 8.2 with an eaton copy differential and moser axles... they say its good to about 500 hp running slicks... soooo i think i will be ok ;) .
Good luck with the body work tooo.. that oddly enough is the last thing i will do on mine. Maybe in a couple of years

Thanks Randall... I'm going to need it! 500hp is plenty stout enough. I'm not planning for anything above that! Don't we all say that then the bug bites!?

ROBS6T8
01-19-2012, 08:01 AM
I like that battery tray!

Thanks! I'm sure they ship to Japan! LOL You won't be disappointed.

rfalker1
05-21-2012, 04:29 AM
So any updates with the car Rob???

acegto
05-21-2012, 11:47 AM
Just saw your project. Keep plugging away. Love your rendering too.

ROBS6T8
07-15-2012, 07:54 AM
Updates? Sorry I have been busy working on her and it seemed like it slowed me down posting pics. You want updates? I'll give you some updates with pics! Where do I start?

Quarter panels...
Didn't have a clue as to how to measure and cut these properly so the right side was a virgin that I somewhat hacked! lol I can see why they say complete quarters are easier than the skins... less welding!

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/qtrtack-1.jpg

Oh yeah, I forgot the wheelhouse...
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/outweld-1.jpg

And what happens when you can't measure properly! Just add some more welding!
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/toomuch-1.jpg

Finished wheelhouse
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/outundrcoat-1.jpg

Quarter panel welding...
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/qtrstitch-1.jpg

PIc of where I was going to cut and how it was perfect... but I learned to put the panel on the old and scribe on old and remove old. It was much easier doing it this way...
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/orgmark-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/newmark-1.jpg

All welded in
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/qtron-1.jpg

I wont bore you with the other side!!

ROBS6T8
07-15-2012, 08:00 AM
Some interior work...
I painted the instrument bezel to match the dash. The black was just too much contrast. I had to do this twice as the first time the paint wrinkled up on me! I laid it down too wet!
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/bezeldone-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/bezelcomp-1.jpg

I installed the Dakota Digital gauges... which I absolutely think are GREAT!
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/bezelupdt-1.jpg

Nighttime viewing...matches the push button start!
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/bezelupdate-1.jpg

ROBS6T8
07-15-2012, 08:03 AM
This is a pic to remind me that I'm not building a show car!! The pieces are hanging from the ceiling...just been primered.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/noshowcar-1.jpg

I also replaced some quarter window hardware while the QP was removed,
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/qtrwinasmbly-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/qtrwassembled-1.jpg

ROBS6T8
07-15-2012, 08:07 AM
I needed some more Orange to keep me motivated so I painted the spoiler.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/spoilerdone-1.jpg

I moved to other side and found this. The bondo was an 1 1/4 thick in some spots!
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/lfrrbndo-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/qtrdamage-1.jpg

But like I said, I wont bore you with this side! I got it welded on and in the process of body work now!
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/lfqtrskin-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/lfqtrshin2-1.jpg

ROBS6T8
07-15-2012, 11:33 AM
I started the wet sanding process on the 2" cowl hood... it looks like 6" in the pic! I found some low spots during the process. Nothing the glazing putty can't take care of.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/6incowl-1.jpg

Some work on the fenders. Using 3M Dry Block sanding product. Great stuff. Doesn't clog the sand paper.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/fenderr3m-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/fendersand-1.jpg

You can see it left here on all the edges...
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/fenderlines-1.jpg

ROBS6T8
07-15-2012, 08:12 PM
A little wet sanding on the fender extension with 400.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/fendextstart-1.jpg

I ended up with some orange peel still...
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/fendextorng-1.jpg

A little more sanding...
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/fendextorggone-1.jpg

The finished product
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/fendextdone-1.jpg

ROBS6T8
07-15-2012, 08:17 PM
I needed a reminder to tack everything before spraying. I got the point with this! Everything coated with HOK white sealer
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/sealer-1.jpg

Three coats of HOK Tangelo with two coats of HOK Klear. I'm only doing two coats now because I will be sanding again with 1000 and then painting my stripe once the car is assembled.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/bccc-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/hoodbccc-1.jpg

ROBS6T8
07-15-2012, 08:18 PM
The next day I moved everything outside to "bake" some more!

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/baking-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/baking1-1.jpg

Crestronwizard
07-15-2012, 10:09 PM
Lookin' good! Love the color :)

Ron.in.SoCal
07-16-2012, 10:03 AM
Lookin' good! Love the color :)

Yeah man...:cheers:

ROBS6T8
07-16-2012, 01:01 PM
Thanks guys!
She'll be done for Buttonwillow Ron!
I'm trying to "git r dun" for Hot August Nights... three weeks left!

LSXZ28
07-16-2012, 04:06 PM
Looks awesome! That is one of my favorite colors ever!

Ron.in.SoCal
07-16-2012, 05:02 PM
Thanks guys!
She'll be done for Buttonwillow Ron!
I'm trying to "git r dun" for Hot August Nights... three weeks left!

Hopefully I'll be done too! See you there either way. Can't wait to see your car in person Bro...:cheers:

ROBS6T8
07-16-2012, 08:59 PM
Looks awesome! That is one of my favorite colors ever!
Thank you. I wanted yellow to begin with and then orange. I know have both with the pearl!


Hopefully I'll be done too! See you there either way. Can't wait to see your car in person Bro...:cheers:
Don't get your hopes up Ron. It's not a show car! lol :) Looking forward to meeting you and a few others out there. Looks to be a fun time. I'll be in the school!

bosses son
07-19-2012, 12:22 PM
Go Rob go!

Gitter Dun
07-19-2012, 12:37 PM
Fricken awesome Rob!! :cool:

ROBS6T8
07-21-2012, 10:41 AM
Go Rob go!


Fricken awesome Rob!! :cool:

Thanks guys. More motivation for some late nights to come. More body work this weekend and hopefully some more painting. I need a few days of assembly and working out all the nasty lil' bugs to come! :D

WS6
07-22-2012, 10:07 AM
Good job on the body panels. Great choice on the color too. Good luck meeting your goals.

ROBS6T8
07-23-2012, 07:41 AM
Good job on the body panels. Great choice on the color too. Good luck meeting your goals.

Thanks Trey. It's going to be close. She won't be completely done and I'm sure people will look at it and wonder why I'm driving it! lol If only they knew what I did in 6 weeks. Procrastination sucks!! :D

ROBS6T8
07-23-2012, 09:30 PM
Started stripping the doors. A "friend" who will remain anonymous told me if there was any bondo, leave it! I'm glad I didn't.
What was under all that crap...
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/doorcancer-1.jpg

And under that...
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/doorcancerrepair-1.jpg

I treated the area with RustSeal and cut a piece of the old quarter panel to make a patch. Me welding it in. I didn't kno wthe wife was snapping pics until I downloaded them all! :)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/doorcancerfix-1.jpg

I know, welding in shorts! I have a few holes burned into my socks.

ROBS6T8
07-23-2012, 09:36 PM
I did a few days of bodywork and just wanted to get this thing in primer to see my mistakes and where I needed to concentrate. The wife snapped this one of me masking and prepping the car for the primer.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/masking-1.jpg

When she was all done...
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/primer-1.jpg

I can see where it needs my attention much better now. The wife is excited to see her in one color too! :)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/primer1-1.jpg

Yes, those cases of Bud Light are empty! 6 weeks of working in the garage on hot summer days. A few weeks left and I'll be back in the gym and not so much beer. :(
I'll be back to work the next few nights and then hope to hit it hard Friday. Maybe, and that's a big maybe, I'll have some paint by Monday. Wish me luck! :)

Motown 454
07-23-2012, 10:11 PM
Nice progress. I love the color.

ROBS6T8
07-24-2012, 07:07 AM
Nice progress. I love the color.

Thank you Wayne. She's getting there. Maybe have some more "color" pics tonight!
I like your plate. I might have to steal a version of it! :)

Motown 454
07-24-2012, 02:34 PM
Your welcome to it. I first saw FNFAST on BMW with a hot blond driving with the top down. We can thank her. I'll be watching for more pictures.

ROBS6T8
07-25-2012, 03:45 PM
Here are the pics I was mentioning. I decided I was going to paint the remainder of the panels that were off of the car before going to work yesterday. It was a beautiful day for painting. Low 80's! When I did the first painting it was well over 100! That was not fun.
Here everything is in primer...
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/headerprime-1.jpg

I sealed everything in white...
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/headerseal-1.jpg

You'll notice here that the valance is still white! On the second coat I noticed some bodywork that needed to be finished! I can't believe I missed that when I was wiping it all down... :doh:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/headerpaint-1.jpg

Outside baking some more! I'm all about natural energy! :)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/headerbake-1.jpg

Hopefully I have the body and doors ready by Monday! Only two weeeks left...

Young Gun
07-25-2012, 03:59 PM
Great lookin color! Keep it up!

ROBS6T8
07-27-2012, 02:28 AM
Great lookin color! Keep it up!

Thanks Colin. I'm getting a lot of compliments on the color! :cheers: The most important one is the wife. She's liking it the more she sees it. Almost there... hopefully by the end of this weekend!

BCHALK22
07-29-2012, 04:17 PM
HEY Rob i just read your build. Looks like you are killing it right now. Good luck on getting the car done. You still have some time left to finish. Hope to see your car in Reno soon.

ROBS6T8
07-30-2012, 08:09 AM
Thank you! We haven't decided on a lunch yet. There are some peeps from TC that will be there. I'll keep you posted.

Got some more work done. Color is right around the corner!
My friend helping me out one more time with the finaL sanding...
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/bodysand-1.jpg

I put on some moree 3M and started blocking. This stuff is great!
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/body3m-1.jpg

The roof is wet sanded!
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/bodywet-1.jpg

Color soon, real soon!

Tango68SS
07-30-2012, 11:57 AM
Keep up the great work Rob! SHe'll be rollin' soon!

mc84_zz4
07-30-2012, 03:53 PM
Nice project man! I really get a kick out of home garage projects.
Something I can relate to: "I did it all myself", or course with
a few good friends' help, and maybe some beer....

ROBS6T8
07-30-2012, 09:31 PM
Nice project man! I really get a kick out of home garage projects.
Something I can relate to: "I did it all myself", or course with
a few good friends' help, and maybe some beer....

Thank you! That's what I'm proud of saying, " I did it myself in a two car garage... dirty two car garage!" Beer? Here's proof in the background! :cheers:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/primer1-1.jpg

ROBS6T8
07-30-2012, 09:55 PM
Here we go... the moment you've all been waitng for... COLOR on the body!

Beer? Did someone mention beer? lol She's wiped down and ready to be played with! :)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/wishmeluck-1.jpg

I didn't say what color?
Sealer...
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/bodysealer-1.jpg

Some color... phone pic, sorry
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/photobucket82071343711247033-1.jpg

And some clear! :seizure:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/bodycolor2-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/bodycolor1-1.jpg

That's all for now. I'm so relieved the body is done. Now I just have the doors to do which turned out to be a big mess!

67speedfreak
07-31-2012, 06:25 AM
Lookin good man ! Love that Color

ROBS6T8
07-31-2012, 07:53 AM
Lookin good man ! Love that Color

Thanks Brian. Now why would you love the color? lol :) Still haven't taken the kick panels out.

ROBS6T8
07-31-2012, 01:37 PM
Rolled her out of the garage for some baking!
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/bodybaking-1.jpg

Front shot...
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/bodybaking1-1.jpg

Side shot...
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/bodybaking2-1.jpg

ROBS6T8
07-31-2012, 01:41 PM
Took the paper off of her...
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/bodynopaper-1.jpg

I went for a walk to the gate and decided to take a pic from a distance. I don't think she'll be missed driving down the road!
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/walk-1.jpg

ROBS6T8
07-31-2012, 01:42 PM
Where do the gaskets go for the tail light bezels? Outside? Thanks.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/rearplain-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/rearwith-1.jpg

Roberts68
08-05-2012, 11:48 AM
Color compliment #327 checking in. Looks great. When I go back upstairs I will have an orange creamsicle in honor of the occasion... unless all the orange are gone, then you have to settle for lime or maybe root beer but I am good with that too.
In any case, congrats on the milestones.
I thought you weren't going to paint with your good wheels on? Did you swap before rolling out on the driveway?

Tango68SS
08-05-2012, 01:46 PM
WOW!!! what a color!! you are correct! Brian's "Agent Orange" looks phenomenal rolling down the road, so will yours! Your car will cause many accidents amigo! people will "rubber neck" when they see her! Great job! Now get her together and post up a rolling vid!

TC

ROBS6T8
08-07-2012, 11:11 PM
Color compliment #327 checking in. Looks great. When I go back upstairs I will have an orange creamsicle in honor of the occasion... unless all the orange are gone, then you have to settle for lime or maybe root beer but I am good with that too.
In any case, congrats on the milestones.
I thought you weren't going to paint with your good wheels on? Did you swap before rolling out on the driveway?

Thanks Robert. Unfortunately I couldn't put the old wheels on because of the new brakes! But not to worry, nothing was harmed in the making! :lol:

ROBS6T8
08-07-2012, 11:12 PM
WOW!!! what a color!! you are correct! Brian's "Agent Orange" looks phenomenal rolling down the road, so will yours! Your car will cause many accidents amigo! people will "rubber neck" when they see her! Great job! Now get her together and post up a rolling vid!

TC

Thanks TC. Yes I had decided on the color after a few Hot August Nights. Then I saw Brian's car and was sold. So was the wife!

ROBS6T8
08-07-2012, 11:17 PM
Here we go! She's slowly getting there. More pics for you.
In the beginning...
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/08/driveside-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/08/passside-1.jpg

And now...
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/08/jat1-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/08/jat2-1.jpg

ROBS6T8
08-15-2012, 06:55 AM
They're never really done but close enough! I still have to sand the clear and lay the stripe. Install the mirrors and headlight buckets... all the small details! I worked out my issues with the horrible brake sound. Just had to keep bedding them in. She's no show car but I wasn't buiding a show car.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/08/orglffront-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/08/orgrtfront1-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/08/orglfhood-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/08/orgrthood-1.jpg

bosses son
08-15-2012, 08:36 PM
Looks awesome Rob! Bring it by when you get a chance!

ROBS6T8
08-16-2012, 02:26 PM
Thanks Kyle! Will do. Maybe tomorrow? Will be doing the Hot El Camino Nights tomorrow.

Gitter Dun
08-17-2012, 10:32 PM
Great job Rob!! Looks like your almost there.

jtm311
08-18-2012, 03:06 AM
Rob, she turned out really nice. Great job..
John

ROBS6T8
08-18-2012, 08:51 AM
Great job Rob!! Looks like your almost there.

Thanks Gae. I'll have to head over to the NCRC and sign up for Buttonwillow!


Rob, she turned out really nice. Great job..
John

Thanks John. SHe's nice but no show car. She does look 120% better than when I bought her. I'm happy but wish I would have taken a wee bit more time on her. Oh well.

rfalker1
03-24-2013, 03:44 PM
Robert... so how is she driving???

POS71RS
03-24-2013, 06:31 PM
Yeah Rob....? *nudge* :machine:

ROBS6T8
03-24-2013, 09:11 PM
Robert... so how is she driving???

Ha! As you can see by Mike's comment, not so good. Engine issues, timing, electrical, ignition who the f*^k knows! I'll throw some pics up of what I have been doing with her though.
Almost had or I did have an electrical fire the other day. Keep blowing the ignition fuse so I have to hunt that issue down now.
What about you? I haven't been looking through the projects thread lately.

ROBS6T8
03-24-2013, 09:12 PM
Yeah Rob....? *nudge* :machine:
Too funny Mike!

ROBS6T8
03-24-2013, 09:21 PM
I decided to put the Flaming River column in. First I had to get it painted.
One coat of Tangelo
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/03/colonecoat_zpsa37b45ed-1.jpg

Two coats and some clear
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/03/colcoatclr_zps4640a886-1.jpg

Out in the sun baking with the new hardware
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/03/colmgood-1.jpg

She's in
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/03/colinstall-1.jpg

ROBS6T8
03-24-2013, 09:24 PM
Well it doesn't look like the photos are posting. I'll have to wait until I get home and try again. I'll have some photos of the 9 inch that will be going in as well.
See you then!

rfalker1
03-25-2013, 12:00 AM
Seriously!! That is crazy.. I am glad it didnt happen though, and what happened with the engine?

My car is driving well, except for some throttle engines (last time I drove it was september) and an untuned engine!! Did a couple upgrades, and have a couple more to do!

wayward
03-27-2013, 04:33 PM
who made your steering wheel?

ROBS6T8
03-28-2013, 01:36 AM
Seriously!! That is crazy.. I am glad it didnt happen though, and what happened with the engine?

My car is driving well, except for some throttle engines (last time I drove it was september) and an untuned engine!! Did a couple upgrades, and have a couple more to do!

The electrical fire I smelled turned out to be the coil. Burnt to you know what! Not normal? Just left the key on for a bit. I've done it before with no issues. Brand new distributor too. Ugh. There would be no where for the electrical current to go unless there was a short in the coil, correct? I'm looking for some more feedback on it before I go storming back to O'Reilly's to take it back. MSD and I are not getting along too well lately. :)
Tuning issues with your car? That's what got me into this mess. Just want to tune it and get the timing spot on. Now I'm stuck without a running car.


who made your steering wheel?

Momo race wheel. Feels great. That nice Italian leather. :)

ROBS6T8
03-28-2013, 07:34 AM
Pics of the carnage!

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/03/burnedcap-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/03/burnedcoil-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/03/burnedcoil1-1.jpg

I started a thread in electrical looking for answers and advice. I'm thinking there had to be a short in the coil before all of this went down. It's my understanding if electricty has no where to go, it stops flowing. I want my $$$ back or a new distributor. :(

ent72olds
03-28-2013, 08:34 AM
That sucks Rob! Car came along great to where it is now, though....you should be proud! I am not getting along too well with MSD either right now. I will be driving my cutlass, and she just shuts off like someone pulled the plug....????

ROBS6T8
03-28-2013, 11:47 AM
Thanks Erik! I'm loving that color! :cool:
I just got off the phone with MSD. They said send it back and will replace it. Cool. But how long will that take I asked. He said, "Nevermind, with the cost of that one, I'll just send you out a new one". They said it could be a bad ground i the coil, bad ground anywhere else, or I left the key on! He missed that part of the story! But why leaving the key on would that happen? Don't you have the key on while driving the car? It's consistently getting voltage at that time. :confused:

ent72olds
03-28-2013, 01:57 PM
Yeah, that's Atomic Orange...ZO6 color, I figured you would like that! Well, as far as your problem, all I can say is that I hope that is it. I switched out dist, then coil, then spark box one at a time! Let's just say, I have doubles of everything now. I even replaced iGN switch. Just be careful not to burn your car down....If your problem is something else such as a bad ground or open circuit.......? Let us know what happens!

mtmace
08-21-2013, 12:28 PM
Is there any pearl in your paint?
Also did you have any issues with color matching when painting the in different stages?

bs46488
08-21-2013, 02:23 PM
Too bad your so far away. I'd bring my car (and beer) to get that same paint treatment.

btw...I read your whole thread, did I miss an update on the other big expense you and your wife were working on?

Rod
08-21-2013, 03:30 PM
Thanks Erik! I'm loving that color! :cool:
I just got off the phone with MSD. They said send it back and will replace it. Cool. But how long will that take I asked. He said, "Nevermind, with the cost of that one, I'll just send you out a new one". They said it could be a bad ground i the coil, bad ground anywhere else, or I left the key on! He missed that part of the story! But why leaving the key on would that happen? Don't you have the key on while driving the car? It's consistently getting voltage at that time. :confused:

the key is on while driving and the juice has a place to go, down the wires and into the spark plug, if the key is on and not running juice has nowhere to go and just builds heat into the epoxy of the coil till the plastic gives up and melts....on the ground issue early camaros needed lots of grounds, 1) one at least frame to body, 2) two frame to engine block one on the front of block and one on the rear, so a minimum of three, and you should have two from battery to chassis

ROBS6T8
08-22-2013, 05:48 AM
Is there any pearl in your paint?
Also did you have any issues with color matching when painting the in different stages?
Yes, there is a yellow pearl in it. Came that way, none was added. I didn't have any issues. All the quarts that were purchased were mixed together in gallon containers! Don't get me wrong... there are issues. User errors! :) I'm still going to fix some issues and re-sand the entire car to put the stripe on. Then clear it again. I only have 2 coats of clear on now.


Too bad your so far away. I'd bring my car (and beer) to get that same paint treatment.

btw...I read your whole thread, did I miss an update on the other big expense you and your wife were working on?
5 hour drive is not that bad! :) Unfortunately you did not miss anything. :sad: $15,000 later and we're still in the same boat. Talk about a heart wrencher. When she got that call and I walked into the house I knew what the answer was. It was a bad few days. Still trying though.


the key is on while driving and the juice has a place to go, down the wires and into the spark plug, if the key is on and not running juice has nowhere to go and just builds heat into the epoxy of the coil till the plastic gives up and melts....on the ground issue early camaros needed lots of grounds, 1) one at least frame to body, 2) two frame to engine block one on the front of block and one on the rear, so a minimum of three, and you should have two from battery to chassis
I hear you Rod. I called MSD and they sent me out an entire distributor. Put it in and she fired right up!
Met someone you know at Hot August Nights. Can't remember his name. Blue 68 with black wheels. Runs the Marina autocrosses. Talked to him about getting my arse up there to run them next year. Nice guy. Understood my situation about not building a "show car". :rotfl:

And now for the next project...
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/08/20130813_101039-1.jpg (http://s1134.photobucket.com/user/ROBS6T8/media/20130813_101039.jpg.html)


TKO 600 with .64 overdrive! I always make a big purchase every year we go to HAN. Summit's 10% off during the event. Well this year with all the gift cards I had from the previous Christmas and birthday, I got the OK from the boss. Last year it was the Currie 9 inch. Hopefully these will be installed in the next 2 days. :fingersx:

ROBS6T8
08-22-2013, 05:57 AM
Now that I'm here updating, I'll throw a few more in. What I've been working on before Hot August Nights...
Did the underside of the hood. I know backwards...
Before...
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/08/hood-1.jpg (http://s1134.photobucket.com/user/ROBS6T8/media/hood.jpg.html)

Eye candy...
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/08/hoodlatch-1.jpg (http://s1134.photobucket.com/user/ROBS6T8/media/hoodlatch.jpg.html)

Anvil goodie...
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/08/hoodanvil-1.jpg (http://s1134.photobucket.com/user/ROBS6T8/media/hoodanvil.jpg.html)

All complete!
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/08/hooddone-1.jpg (http://s1134.photobucket.com/user/ROBS6T8/media/hooddone.jpg.html)

ROBS6T8
08-22-2013, 06:01 AM
Painted everything up front that I could black. Put it all back together, finally. It's only been apart for 2-3 years. Installed the spoiler that I've had before I even bought the car!!
I read the stories of damaging sheet metal using the braces with the spoiler so I just screwed it in and left the corner brace off.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/08/spoiler-1.jpg (http://s1134.photobucket.com/user/ROBS6T8/media/spoiler.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/08/frontdone-1.jpg (http://s1134.photobucket.com/user/ROBS6T8/media/frontdone.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/08/spoilerdist-1.jpg (http://s1134.photobucket.com/user/ROBS6T8/media/spoilerdist.jpg.html)

ROBS6T8
08-22-2013, 06:12 AM
I also did the rear bumper. Nothing special. Just didn't want the chrome and I wanted to make it some what legal for the street!

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/08/bumpstrip-1.jpg (http://s1134.photobucket.com/user/ROBS6T8/media/bumpstrip.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/08/bumpbase-1.jpg (http://s1134.photobucket.com/user/ROBS6T8/media/bumpbase.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/08/bumpclr-1.jpg (http://s1134.photobucket.com/user/ROBS6T8/media/bumpclr.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/08/bumpinst-1.jpg (http://s1134.photobucket.com/user/ROBS6T8/media/bumpinst.jpg.html)

I like Rod's idea of painting the rear bumper the same color as the stripe! Who knows? Maybe someday... when I get the stripe on!

ROBS6T8
08-24-2013, 06:39 AM
The past few days I was working o getting the TKO installed. I pulled the Muncie out and the next day I go out there and have a look at the TKO. Hmmmm, something doesn't look right? The 26 spline input shaft vs. the 10 spline on the Muncie!! Call around looking for an 11" clutch disc and no one has any in stock! :banghead:
On to the next project... installing the 9 inch thats been sitting in my weight room for the past year. Need to do this anyway so I can get the measurement for the driveshaft.
Out with the old...
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/08/oldrear-1.jpg (http://s1134.photobucket.com/user/ROBS6T8/media/oldrear.jpg.html)

Installed with the Wilwoods...
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/08/rearinstalled-1.jpg (http://s1134.photobucket.com/user/ROBS6T8/media/rearinstalled.jpg.html)

More goodies. Hotchkis Fox tuned shocks. Unfortunately the will be well hidden!
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/08/hotchkisfox-1.jpg (http://s1134.photobucket.com/user/ROBS6T8/media/hotchkisfox.jpg.html)

The Hotchkis leafs just weren't doing it for the drop(1.5) so I added some 1" lowering blocks. I have 1.5" too but started with these.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/08/rearblock-1.jpg (http://s1134.photobucket.com/user/ROBS6T8/media/rearblock.jpg.html)

Still need to plumb the brakes and add some gear oil. Waiting for some body bushings (stock height). **WARNING** Don't do the .5" lower body bushings if you plan on making any changes! The new crossmember doesn't fit. Heck I played havoc with the other one but made it work. I'm done with messing around with these bushings.