Osama Bin Laden is dead.

[Damn True]

From what I am reading and hearing a SpecOps team (possibly Navy SEALS - unconfirmed) carried out the mission. Bin Laden was hiding in a compound 60km NE of Islamibad in Abbotabad, Pakistan. The mission took 40min. There was a brief firefight ending in the death of Osama Bin Laden and his eldest son. No US Military casualties reported at this time.


Today the death of Mark Bingham & Todd Beamer whom I went to High School with, 9 NYC Firefighters, 2 NYC cops and 1 Customs Agent whom I personally knew along with over 3000 other innocents was avenged.

Today is a great day for this Nation. But it should also be a day that we remember why it is such.

I'm opening this thread for people to discuss and honor the victims of 9/11 and the brave Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, Marines, Coast Guardsmen and civilians who have given their life in service to this Great Nation in the pursuit the War on Terror.

To anyone who lost a loved one on 9/11 you are in my prayers. To any that have or are currently serving in our Nations Military you have my eternal gratitude.

....and the flag was still there.




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[Off Duty]

Nice tribute my friend.
It's just a damned shame that it had to be written at all:angel: , and may it never be repeated.


I've heard everything from U.S Spec Ops, to the CIA.
Who cares!
Bravo Zulu....WELL DONE!
...to whomever pulled this one off!:cheers:

Semper Paratus

http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq101-2.htm
:usa:

[parsonsj]

I think the "toss him in the ocean" (burial at sea) bit is a masterstroke. It will fuel all kinds of counter-productive denials and confirmation activity among al Qaeda itself, denies a pilgrimage shrine for sympathetic radicals, shows the world that the USA doesn't really care if other countries believe the report, and shows deference to Muslim custom that bodies are to be buried within one day of death.

[THE TECH]

Good riddens! Too bad another will just take his place.

[AintQik]

Gotta be careful what I say as I'm still active duty, but I can say it was a proud day. I don't condone the celebration of someone's death, but I wholeheartedly support the elimination of those who continuously show disregard for human beings, justice and universal law. That and the flaunting and bragging and idiotic, untouchable attitude.

Don't mess with people who have the resources, expertise and dedication to hunt you for 10 years.

[moreHP]

That was great news to hear. He finally got what he deserved even if it did take all this time. Between this and killing khadafi's son, it was a pretty good weekend for the USA! In my opinion, this was a better result than if he had been captured somehow and brought to trial since that would have just glorified his existance even more.

[shortrack]

I am SO happy to see that SOB dead and I am SO happy for the United States!!!!!!

David Arnett of CNN the last western journalist to interview Bin Laden before 911 said on CNN last night that this will be a huge blow to Al Qaeda.....he said OBL IS Al Qaeda!.....he compared the importance of Bin Laden to Al Qaeda to the importance of Hitler to the Nazi's....he said when you join Al Qaeda you make a personal oath to Bin Laden not to Al Qaeda.....he went on to say "imagine how WW2 would have turned out if Hitler was killed in one of those assassination attempts two years before....."

you guys kept diggin' and got him.....love it!!!

[CarlC]

It is a measure of justice, but his death cannot measure up to the incredible loss that he has inflicted on both individual families and the world. My thoughts go out to the families and loved ones that were killed on 9/11, but also to all of those that have given their lives hunting down this mastermind of madness.

We were trying to explain what's happening to our oldest son. My wife and I recollected that on 9/11 my in-laws were in town and we had planned a day of fun/tourist stuff. In three days my son would turn one. Looking at him sitting at the table today, as big as he is, it's still hard to fathom that the USA unrelentingly hunted Osama for so long. Unbelievable. Don't mess with a determined America.

It will be interesting to see how the al Quida leadership vacuum will be filled. Hopefully they have a political convention and the same group of SpecOps gets more real-world experience.

[parsonsj]

It is a measure of justice, but his death cannot measure up to the incredible loss that he has inflicted on both individual families and the world. My thoughts go out to the families and loved ones that were killed on 9/11, but also to all of those that have given their lives hunting down this mastermind of madness.Well put. I was put off by the cheering celebrations... we didn't just win the Super Bowl. I think this news should be met with sober thoughts and renewed resolve to protect American lives here and abroad.

[moreHP]

Well put. I was put off by the cheering celebrations... we didn't just win the Super Bowl. I think this news should be met with sober thoughts and renewed resolve to protect American lives here and abroad.

I wasnt sure what I thought of that either. I was watching this crowd outside the white house and thinking how weird that was. Sure I was happy about osama catching a bullet but I didnt quite get the celebration in the streets either. But seeing people cheering here in the USA is kind of a nice thing to see instead of just the usual protests and complaints.

[1969CamaroRS]

Glad they finally got him. Just hope he doesn't become a martyr that other radicals rally around now that he is dead.

[Vegas69]

It's a great day for everybody that calls themself a U.S. citizen. Justice was finally served and we have no one to thank but our troops. We need something like this to pick up the spirits of the soldiers and the public. Everybody has a right to how they react. I'm glad he's dead, I'm just not sure much gravity it will have on the terrorists. Dumping him at sea within 24 hours is fine with me. What else are they going to do with the body and I just don't agree with sinking to other's level. We got him, now he can be fish food.

[Iamtheonlyreal1]

Personally, I think they should Mummify is body and use like a trophy. There will always be denyers, so lets showcase him.. People may say that is a sacrilige because he isnt layed to rest, but How many of the 9/11 victims have never been laid to rest? Sure it would possilby cause uproar, but we would then know who his supporters are, because they couldnt keep their mouths shut about it due to the Respect and Devotion their faith encourages.

[Damn True]

Let's keep this focused on what matters.

Osama Bin Laden's last moment was spent looking an American in the eye. A cowardly killer extinguished by honorable men ensuring justice has been served.

We should be pleased at the news, but sobered by the fact that all of this is due to events that ended the lives of thousands of innocent people.


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Juan William Rivera
Linda Ivelisse Rivera
David E. Rivers
Joseph R. Riverso
Paul V. Rizza
John Frank Rizzo
Stephen Louis Roach
Joseph Roberto
Leo Arthur Roberts
Michael Roberts
Michael Edward Roberts
Donald Walter Robertson, Jr.
Catherina Robinson
Jeffery Robinson
Michell Lee Jean Robotham
Donald A. Robson
Antonio A. Rocha
Raymond James Rocha
Laura Rockefeller
John Rodak
Antonio J. Rodrigues
Anthony Rodriguez
Carmen Milagros Rodriguez
Gregory Ernesto Rodriguez
Marsha A. Rodriguez
Mayra Valdes Rodriguez
Richard Rodriguez
David Bartolo Rodriguez-Vargas
Matthew Rogan
Karlie Barbara Rogers
Scott Williams Rohner
Keith Roma
Joseph M. Romagnolo
Efrain Romero, Sr.
Elvin Romero
Juan Romero
Orozco James A. Romito
Sean Paul Rooney
Eric Thomas Ropiteau
Aida Rosario
Angela Rosario
Wendy Alice Rosario Wakeford
Mark Rosen
Brooke David Rosenbaum
Linda Rosenbaum
Sheryl Lynn Rosenbaum
Lloyd Daniel Rosenberg
Mark Louis Rosenberg
Andrew Ira Rosenblum
Joshua M. Rosenblum
Joshua Alan Rosenthal
Richard David Rosenthal
Daniel Rosetti
Norman S. Rossinow
Nicholas P. Rossomando
Michael Craig Rothberg
Donna Marie Rothenberg
Nicholas Rowe
Timothy Alan Roy, Sr.
Paul G. Ruback
Ronald J. Ruben
Joanne Rubino
David M. Ruddle
Bart Joseph Ruggiere
Susan A. Ruggiero
Adam Keith Ruhalter
Gilbert Ruiz
Obdulio Ruiz Diaz
Stephen P. Russell
Steven Harris Russin
Michael Thomas Russo, Sr.
Wayne Alan Russo
Edward Ryan
John Joseph Ryan, Jr.
Jonathan Stephan Ryan
Matthew Lancelot Ryan
Tatiana Ryjova
Christina Sunga Ryook
Thierry Saada
Jason Elazar Sabbag
Thomas E. Sabella
Scott Saber
Joseph Francis Sacerdote
Neeraha Sadaranghgani
Mohammad Ali Sadeque
Francis John Sadocha
Jude Safi
Brock Joel Safronoff
Edward Saiya
John Patrick Salamone
Hernando Salas
Juan G. Salas
Esmerlin Antonio Salcedo
John Salvatore Salerno, Jr.
Richard L. Salinardi, Jr.
Wayne John Saloman
Nolbert Salomon
Catherine Patricia Salter
Frank Salvaterra
Paul Richard Salvio
Samuel Robert Salvo, Jr.
Rena Sam-Dinnoo
Carlos Alberto Samaniego
James Kenneth Samuel, Jr.
Michael San Phillip
Sylvia San Pio
Hugo M. Sanay
Erick Sanchez
Jacquelyn Patrice Sanchez
Eric M. Sand
Stacey Leigh Sanders
Herman S. Sandler
James Sands, Jr.
Ayleen J. Santiago
Kirsten Santiago
Maria Theresa Santillan
Susan Gayle Santo
Christopher Santora
John A. Santore
Mario L. Santoro
Rafael Humberto Santos
Rufino Conrado Flores Santos Iii
Jorge Octavio Santos Anaya
Kalyan Sarkar
Chapelle R. Sarker
Paul F. Sarle
Deepika Kumar Sattaluri
Gregory Thomas Saucedo
Susan M. Sauer
Anthony Savas
Vladimir Savinkin
Jackie Sayegh
John Michael Sbarbaro
Robert L. Scandole, Jr.
Michelle Scarpitta
Dennis Scauso
John Albert Schardt
John G. Scharf
Frederick Claude Scheffold, Jr.
Angela Susan Scheinberg
Scott Mitchell Schertzer
Sean Schielke
Steven Francis Schlag
Jon Schlissel
Karen Helene Schmidt
Ian Schneider
Thomas G. Schoales
Frank G. Schott, Jr.
Gerard Patrick Schrang
Jeffrey H. Schreier
John T. Schroeder
Susan Lee Schuler
Edward William Schunk
Mark E. Schurmeier
Clarin Shellie Schwartz
John Burkhart Schwartz
Mark Schwartz
Adriane Victoria Scibetta
Raphael Scorca
Randolph Scott
Sheila Scott
Christopher Jay Scudder
Arthur Warren Scullin
Michael Herman Seaman
Margaret M. Seeliger
Anthony Segarra
Carlos Segarra
Jason Sekzer
Matthew Carmen Sellitto
Howard Selwyn
Larry John Senko
Arturo Angelo Sereno
Frankie Serrano
Alena Sesinova
Adele Christine Sessa
Sita Nermalla Sewnarine
Karen Lynn Seymour
Davis Sezna
Thomas Joseph Sgroi
Jayesh S. Shah
Khalid M. Shahid
Mohammed Shajahan
Gary Shamay
Earl Richard Shanahan
Neil Shastri
Kathryn Anne Shatzoff
Barbara A. Shaw
Jeffrey James Shaw
Robert John Shay, Jr.
Daniel James Shea
Joseph Patrick Shea
Linda Sheehan
Hagay Shefi
John Anthony Sherry
Atsushi Shiratori
Thomas Joseph Shubert
Mark Shulman
See Wong Shum
Allan Abraham Shwartzstein
Johanna Sigmund
Dianne T. Signer
Gregory Sikorsky
Stephen Gerard Siller
David Silver
Craig A. Silverstein
Nasima Hameed Simjee
Bruce Edward Simmons
Arthur Simon
Kenneth Alan Simon
Michael J. Simon
Paul Joseph Simon
Marianne Teresa Simone
Barry Simowitz
Jeff Lyal Simpson
Khamladai Singh
Kulwant Singh
Roshan Ramesh Singh
Thomas E. Sinton III
Peter A. Siracuse
Muriel Fay Siskopoulos
Joseph Michael Sisolak
John P. Skala
Francis Joseph Skidmore, Jr.
Toyena Skinner
Paul A. Skrzypek
Christopher Paul Slattery
Vincent Robert Slavin
Robert F. Sliwak
Paul K. Sloan
Stanley S. Smagala, Jr.
Wendy L. Small
Catherine Smith
Daniel Laurence Smith
George Eric Smith
James Gregory Smith
Jeffrey R. Smith
Joyce Patricia Smith
Karl T. Smith
Keisha Smith
Kevin Joseph Smith
Leon Smith, Jr.
Moira Ann Smith
Rosemary A. Smith
Bonnie Jeanne Smithwick
Rochelle Monique Snell
Leonard J. Snyder, Jr.
Astrid Elizabeth Sohan
Sushil S. Solanki
Ruben Solares
Naomi Leah Solomon
Daniel W. Song
Michael Charles Sorresse
Fabian Soto
Timothy Patrick Soulas
Gregory Spagnoletti
Donald F. Spampinato, Jr.
Thomas Sparacio
John Anthony Spataro
Robert W. Spear, Jr.
Maynard S. Spence, Jr.
George Edward Spencer III
Robert Andrew Spencer
Mary Rubina Sperando
Tina Spicer
Frank Spinelli
William E. Spitz
Joseph Spor, Jr.
Klaus Johannes Sprockamp
Saranya Srinuan
Fitzroy St. Rose
Michael F. Stabile
Lawrence T. Stack
Timothy M. Stackpole
Richard James Stadelberger
Eric Stahlman
Gregory Stajk
Alexandru Liviu Stan
Corina Stan
Mary Domenica Stanley
Anthony Starita
Jeffrey Stark
Derek James Statkevicus
Craig William Staub
William V. Steckman
Eric Thomas Steen
William R. Steiner
Alexander Steinman
Andrew Stergiopoulos
Andrew Stern
Martha Stevens
Michael James Stewart
Richard H. Stewart, Jr.
Sanford M. Stoller
Lonny Jay Stone
Jimmy Nevill Storey
Timothy Stout
Thomas Strada
James J. Straine, Jr.
Edward W. Straub
George J. Strauch, Jr.
Edward T. Strauss
Steven R. Strauss
Steven F. Strobert
Walwyn W. Stuart, Jr.
Benjamin Suarez
David Scott Suarez
Ramon Suarez
Yoichi Sugiyama
William Christopher Sugra
Daniel Suhr
David Marc Sullins
Christopher P. Sullivan
Patrick Sullivan
Thomas Sullivan
Hilario Soriano Sumaya, Jr.
James Joseph Suozzo
Colleen Supinski
Robert Sutcliffe
Seline Sutter
Claudia Suzette Sutton
John Francis Swaine
Kristine M. Swearson
Brian Edward Sweeney
Kenneth J. Swenson
Thomas Swift
Derek Ogilvie Sword
Kevin Thomas Szocik
Gina Sztejnberg
Norbert P. Szurkowski
Harry Taback
Joann Tabeek
Norma C. Taddei
Michael Taddonio
Keiichiro Takahashi
Keiji Takahashi
Phyllis Gail Talbot
Robert Talhami
Sean Patrick Tallon
Paul Talty
Maurita Tam
Rachel Tamares
Hector Tamayo
Michael Andrew Tamuccio
Kenichiro Tanaka
Rhondelle Cheri Tankard
Michael Anthony Tanner
Dennis Gerard Taormina, Jr.
Kenneth Joseph Tarantino
Allan Tarasiewicz
Ronald Tartaro
Darryl Anthony Taylor
Donnie Brooks Taylor
Lorisa Ceylon Taylor
Michael Morgan Taylor
Paul A. Tegtmeier
Yeshauant Tembe
Anthony Tempesta
Dorothy Pearl Temple
Stanley Temple
David Tengelin
Brian John Terrenzi
Lisa M. Terry
Shell Tester
Goumatie T. Thackurdeen
Sumati Thakur
Harshad Sham Thatte
Thomas F. Theurkauf, Jr.
Lesley Anne Thomas
Brian Thomas Thompson
Clive Thompson
Glenn Thompson
Nigel Bruce Thompson
Perry A. Thompson
Vanavah Alexei Thompson
William H. Thompson
Eric Raymond Thorpe
Nichola Angela Thorpe
Sal Edward Tieri, Jr.
John p Tierney
Mary Ellen Tiesi
William R. Tieste
Kenneth Francis Tietjen
Stephen Edward Tighe
Scott Charles Timmes
Michael E. Tinley
Jennifer M. Tino
Robert Frank Tipaldi
John James Tipping II
David Tirado
Hector Luis Tirado, Jr.
Michelle Lee Titolo
John J. Tobin
Richard Todisco
Vladimir Tomasevic
Stephen Kevin Tompsett
Thomas Tong
Doris Torres
Luis Eduardo Torres
Amy Elizabeth Toyen
Christopher Michael Traina
Daniel Patrick Trant
Abdoul Karim Traore
Glenn J. Travers
Walter Philip Travers
Felicia Y. Traylor-Bass
Lisa L. Trerotola
Karamo Trerra
Michael Angel Trinidad
Francis Joseph Trombino
Gregory James Trost
William P. Tselepis
Zhanetta Valentinovna Tsoy
Michael Tucker
Lance Richard Tumulty
Ching Ping Tung
Simon James Turner
Donald Joseph Tuzio
Robert T. Twomey
Jennifer Tzemis
John G. Ueltzhoeffer
Tyler V. Ugolyn
Michael A. Uliano
Jonathan J. Uman
Anil Shivhari Umarkar
Allen V. Upton
Diane Marie Urban
John Damien Vaccacio
Bradley Hodges Vadas
Renuta Vaidea
William Valcarcel
Felix Antonio Vale
Ivan Vale
Benito Valentin
Santos Valentin, Jr.
Carlton Francis Valvo II
Erica H. Van Acker
Kenneth W. Van Auken
Richard B. Van Hine
Daniel M. Van Laere
Edward Raymond Vanacore
Jon C. Vandevander
Barrett Vanvelzer, 4
Edward Vanvelzer
Paul Herman Vanvelzer
Frederick Thomas Varacchi
Gopalakrishnan Varadhan
David Vargas
Scott C. Vasel
Azael Ismael Vasquez
Arcangel Vazquez
Santos Vazquez
Peter Anthony Vega
Sankara S. Velamuri
Jorge Velazquez
Lawrence G. Veling
Anthony Mark Ventura
David Vera
Loretta Ann Vero
Christopher James Vialonga
Matthew Gilbert Vianna
Robert Anthony Vicario
Celeste Torres Victoria
Joanna Vidal
John T. Vigiano II
Joseph Vincent Vigiano
Frank J. Vignola, Jr.
Joseph Barry Vilardo
Sergio Villanueva
Chantal Vincelli
Melissa Vincent
Francine Ann Virgilio
Lawrence Virgilio
Joseph Gerard Visciano
Joshua S. Vitale
Maria Percoco Vola
Lynette D. Vosges
Garo H. Voskerijian
Alfred Vukosa
Gregory Kamal Bruno Wachtler
Gabriela Waisman
Courtney Wainsworth Walcott
Victor Wald
Benjamin James Walker
Glen Wall
Mitchel Scott Wallace
Peter Guyder Wallace
Robert Francis Wallace
Roy Michael Wallace
Jeanmarie Wallendorf
Matthew Blake Wallens
John Wallice, Jr.
Barbara P. Walsh
James Henry Walsh
Jeffrey P. Walz
Ching Wang
Weibin Wang
Michael Warchola
Stephen Gordon Ward
James Arthur Waring
Brian G. Warner
Derrick Washington
Charles Waters
James Thomas Waters, Jr.
Patrick J. Waters
Kenneth Thomas Watson
Michael Henry Waye
Todd Christopher Weaver
Walter Edward Weaver
Nathaniel Webb
Dinah Webster
Joanne Flora Weil
Michael T. Weinberg
Steven Weinberg
Scott Jeffrey Weingard
Steven George Weinstein
Simon Weiser
David M. Weiss
David Thomas Weiss
Vincent Michael Wells
Timothy Matthew Welty
Christian Hans Rudolf Wemmers
Ssu-Hui Wen
Oleh D. Wengerchuk
Peter M. West
Whitfield West, Jr.
Meredith Lynn Whalen
Eugene Whelan
Adam S. White
Edward James White III
James Patrick White
John Sylvester White
Kenneth Wilburn White, Jr.
Leonard Anthony White
Malissa Y. White
Wayne White
Leanne Marie Whiteside
Mark P. Whitford
Michael T. Wholey
Mary Catherine Wieman
Jeffrey David Wiener
Wilham J. Wik
Alison Marie Wildman
Glenn E. Wilkenson
John C. Willett
Brian Patrick Williams
Crossley Richard Williams, Jr.
David J. Williams
Deborah Lynn Williams
Kevin Michael Williams
Louie Anthony Williams
Louis Calvin Williams III
John P. Williamson
Donna Ann Wilson
William Wilson
David Harold Winton
Glenn J. Winuk
Thomas Francis Wise
Alan L. Wisniewski
Frank Thomas Wisniewski
David Wiswall
Sigrid Wiswe
Michael Wittenstein
Christopher W. Wodenshek
Martin P. Wohlforth
Katherine Susan Wolf
Jennifer Yen Wong
Siu Cheung Wong
Yin Ping Wong
Yuk Ping Wong
Brent James Woodall
James John Woods
Patrick J. Woods
Richard Herron Woodwell
David Terence Wooley
John Bentley Works
Martin Michael Wortley
Rodney James Wotton
William Wren
John Wayne Wright
Neil Robin Wright
Sandra Lee Wright
Jupiter Yambem
Suresh Yanamadala
Matthew David Yarnell
Myrna Yaskulka
Shakila Yasmin
Olabisi Shadie Layeni Yee
William Yemele
Edward P. York
Kevin Patrick York
Raymond R. York
Suzanne Youmans
Barrington Young
Jacqueline Young
Elkin Yuen
Joseph C. Zaccoli
Adel Agayby Zakhary
Arkady Zaltsman
Edwin J. Zambrana, Jr.
Robert Alan Zampieri
Mark Zangrilli
Ira Zaslow
Kenneth Albert Zelman
Abraham J. Zelmanowitz
Martin Morales Zempoaltecatl
Zhe Zeng
Marc Scott Zeplin
Jie Yao Justin Zhao
Ivelin Ziminski
Michael Joseph Zinzi
Charles A. Zion
Julie Lynne Zipper
Salvatore Zisa
Prokopios Paul Zois
Joseph J. Zuccala
Andrew S. Zucker
Igor Zukelman

American Airlines Flight 11

Anna Allison
David Lawrence Angell
Lynn Edwards Angell
Seima Aoyama
Barbara Jean Arestegui
Myra Joy Aronson
Christine Barbuto
Carolyn Beug
Kelly Ann Booms
Carol Marie Bouchard
Robin Lynne Kaplan
Neilie Anne Heffernan Casey
Jeffrey Dwayne Collman
Jeffrey W. Coombs
Tara Kathleen Creamer
Thelma Cuccinello
Patrick Currivan
Brian Paul Dale
David Dimeglio
Donald Americo Ditullio
Alberto Dominguez
Paige Marie Farley-Hackel
Alexander Milan Filipov
Carol Ann Flyzik
Paul J. Friedman
Karleton D.B. Fyfe
Peter Alan Gay
Linda M. George
Edmund Glazer
Lisa Reinhart Gordenstein
Andrew Peter Charles Curry Green
Peter Paul Hashem
Robert Jay Hayes
Edward R. Hennessy, Jr.
John A. Hofer
Cora Hidalgo Holland
John Nicholas Humber, Jr.
Waleed Joseph Iskandar
John Charles Jenkins
Charles Edward Jones
Barbara A. Keating
David P. Kovalcin
Judith Camilla Larocque
Natalie Janis Lasden
Daniel John Lee
Daniel M. Lewin
Sara Elizabeth Low
Susan A. Mackay
Karen Ann Martin
Thomas F. McGuinness, Jr.
Christopher D. Mello
Jeffrey Peter Mladenik
Carlos Alberto Montoya
Antonio Jesus Montoya Valdes
Laura Lee Morabito
Mildred Naiman
Laurie Ann Neira
Renee Lucille Newell
Kathleen Ann Nicosia
Jacqueline June Norton
Robert Grant Norton
John Ogonowski
Betty Ann Ong
Jane M. Orth
Thomas Nicholas Pecorelli
Berinthia B. Perkins
Sonia M. Puopolo
David E. Retik
Jean Destrehan Roger
Philip Martin Rosenzweig
Richard Barry Ross
Jessica Leigh Sachs
Rahma Salie
Heather Lee Smith
Dianne Bullis Snyder
Douglas Joel Stone
Xavier Suarez
Madeline Amy Sweeney
Michael Theodoridis
James Anthony Trentini
Mary Barbara Trentini
Pendyala Vamsikrishna
Mary Alice Wahlstrom
Kenneth Waldie
John Joseph Wenckus
Candace Lee Williams
Christopher Rudolph Zarba, Jr.

List of Victims on United Airlines Flight 175

Alona Abraham
Garnet Edward Bailey
Mark Lawrence Bavis
Graham Andrew Berkeley
Touri Bolourchi
Klaus Bothe
Daniel Raymond Brandhorst
David Reed Gamboa Brandhorst
John Brett Cahill
Christoffer Mikael Carstanjen
John J. Corcoran III
Dorothy Alma de Araujo
Ana Gloria Pocasangre Debarrera
Robert John Fangman
Lisa Anne Frost
Ronald Gamboa
Lynn Catherine Goodchild
Peter M. Goodrich
Douglas Alan Gowell
Francis Edward Grogan
Carl Max Hammond, Jr.
Christine Lee Hanson
Peter Burton Hanson
Susan Kim Hanson
Gerald Francis Hardacre
Eric Hartono
James Edward Hayden
Herbert Wilson Homer
Michael Robert Horrocks
Robert Adrien Jalbert
Amy N. Jarret
Ralph Kershaw
Heinrich Kimmig
Amy R. King
Brian Kinney
Kathryn L. LaBorie
Robert G. Leblanc
Maclovio Lopez, Jr.
Marianne Macfarlane
Alfred Gilles Marchand
Louis Mariani
Juliana McCourt
Ruth Magdaline McCourt
Wolfgang Peter Menzel
Shawn M. Nassaney
Marie Pappalardo
Patrick J. Quigley IV
Frederick Charles Rimmele III
James Roux
Jesus Sanchez
Victor J. Saracini
Mary Kathleen Shearer
Robert M. Shearer
Jane Louise Simpkin
Brian David Sweeney
Michael C. Tarrou
Alicia N. Titus
Timothy Ray Ward
William Michael Weems

List of Victims at the Pentagon (Not Including Flight 77)
Note: USA - United Stated Army; USN - United States Navy

SPC Craig S. Amundson, USA
YN3 Melissa Rose Barnes, USN
MSG Max J. Beilke, Retired
IT2 Kris Romeo Bishundat, USN
Carrie R. Blagburn
COL Canfield D. Boone, ARNG
Donna M. Bowen
Allen P. Boyle
ET3 Christopher L. Burford, USN
ET3 Daniel M. Caballero, USN
SFC Jose O. Calderon-Olmedo, USA
Angelene C. Carter
Sharon A. Carver
SFC John J. Chada, USA, Retired
Rosa Maria Chapa
Julian T. Cooper
LCDR Eric A. Cranford, USN
Ada M. Davis
CAPT Gerald F. DeConto, USN
LTC Jerry D. Dickerson, USA
IT1 Johnnie Doctor, Jr., USN
CAPT Robert E. Dolan, Jr., USN
CDR William H. Donovan, USN
CDR Patrick Dunn, USN
AG1 Edward T. Earhart, USN
LCDR Robert R. Elseth, USNR
SK3 Jamie L. Fallon, USN
Amelia V. Fields
Gerald P. Fisher
AG2 Matthew M. Flocco, USN
Sandra N. Foster
CAPT Lawrence D. Getzfred, USN
Cortez Ghee
Brenda C. Gibson
COL Ronald F. Golinski, USA, Retired
Diane Hale-McKinzy
Carolyn B. Halmon
Sheila M.S. Hein
ET1 Ronald J. Hemenway, USN
MAJ Wallace Cole Hogan, Jr., USA
SSG Jimmie I. Holley, USA, Retired
Angela M. Houtz
Brady Kay Howell
Peggie M. Hurt
LTC Stephen N. Hyland, Jr., USA
Lt Col Robert J. Hymel, USAF, Retired
SGM Lacey B. Ivory, USA
LTC Dennis M. Johnson, USA
Judith L. Jones
Brenda Kegler
LT Michael S. Lamana, USN
David W. Laychak
Samantha L. Lightbourn-Allen
MAJ Stephen V. Long, USA
James T. Lynch, Jr.
Terence M. Lynch
OS2 Nehamon Lyons IV, USN
Shelley A. Marshall
Teresa M. Martin
Ada L. Mason-Acker
LTC Dean E. Mattson, USA
LTG Timothy J. Maude, USA
Robert J. Maxwell
Molly L. McKenzie
Patricia E. Mickley
MAJ Ronald D. Milam, USA
Gerard P. Moran, Jr.
Odessa V. Morris
ET1 Brian A. Moss, USN
Teddington H. Moy
LCDR Patrick J. Murphy, USNR
Khang Ngoc Nguyen
DM2 Michael A. Noeth, USN
Ruben S. Ornedo
Diana B. Padro
LT Jonas M. Panik, USNR
MAJ Clifford L. Patterson, Jr., USA
LT Darin H. Pontell, USNR
Scott Powell
CAPT Jack D. Punches, USN, Retired
AW1 Joseph J. Pycior, Jr., USN
Deborah A. Ramsaur
Rhonda Sue Rasmussen
IT1 Marsha D. Ratchford, USN
Martha M. Reszke
Cecelia E. (Lawson) Richard
Edward V. Rowenhorst
Judy Rowlett
SGM Robert E. Russell, USA, Retired
CW4 William R. Ruth, ARNG
Charles E. Sabin, Sr.
Marjorie C. Salamone
COL David M. Scales, USA
CDR Robert A. Schlegel, USN
Janice M. Scott
LTC Michael L. Selves, USA, Retired
Marian H. Serva
CDR Dan F. Shanower, USN
Antionette M. Sherman
Diane M. Simmons
Cheryle D. Sincock
ITC Gregg H. Smallwood, USN
LTC Gary F. Smith, USA, Retired
Patricia J. Statz
Edna L. Stephens
SGM Larry L. Strickland, USA
LTC Kip P. Taylor, USA
Sandra C. Taylor
LTC Karl W. Teepe, USA, Retired
SGT Tamara C. Thurman, USA
LCDR Otis V. Tolbert, USN
SSG Willie Q. Troy, USA, Retired
LCDR Ronald J. Vauk, USNR
LTC Karen J. Wagner, USA
Meta L. (Fuller) Waller
SPC Chin Sun Pak Wells, USA
SSG Maudlyn A. White, USA
Sandra L. White
Ernest M. Willcher
LCDR David L. Williams, USN
MAJ Dwayne Williams, USA
RMC Marvin Roger Woods, USN, Retired
IT2 Kevin W. Yokum, USN
ITC Donald M. Young, USN
Edmond G. Young, Jr.
Lisa L. Young

List of Victims on American Airlines Flight 77

Paul W. Ambrose
Yeneneh Betru
Mary Jane Booth
Bernard C. Brown, II
CAPT Charles F. Burlingame III, USNR, Retired
Suzanne M. Calley
William E. Caswell
David M. Charlebois
Sarah M. Clark
Asia S. Cottom
James D. Debeuneure
Rodney Dickens
Eddie A. Dillard
LCDR Charles A. Droz III, USN, Retired
Barbara G. Edwards
Charles S. Falkenberg
Dana Falkenberg
Zoe Falkenberg
J. Joseph Ferguson
Darlene E. Flagg
RADM Wilson F. Flagg, USNR, Retired
1stLt Richard P. Gabriel, USMC, Retired
Ian J. Gray
Stanley R. Hall
Michele M. Heidenberger
Bryan C. Jack
Steven D. Jacoby
Ann C. Judge
Chandler R. Keller
Yvonne E. Kennedy
Norma Cruz Khan
Karen Ann Kincaid
Dong Chul Lee
Jennifer Lewis
Kenneth E. Lewis
Renee A. May
Dora Marie Menchaca
Christopher C. Newton
Barbara K. Olson
Ruben S. Ornedo
Robert Penninger
Robert R. Ploger III
Zandra F. Ploger
Lisa J. Raines
Todd H. Reuben
John P. Sammartino
George W. Simmons
Donald D. Simmons
Mari-Rae Sopper
Robert Speisman
Norma Lang Steuerle
Hilda E. Taylor
Leonard E. Taylor
Sandra D. Teague
Leslie A. Whittington
CAPT John D. Yamnicky, Sr., USN, Retired
Vicki Yancey
Shuyin Yang
Yuguag Zheng

List of Victims on United Airlines Flight 93

Christian Adams
Lorraine G. Bay
Todd Beamer
Alan Beaven
Mark K. Bingham
Deora Frances Bodley
Sandra W. Bradshaw
Marion Britton
Thomas E. Burnett Jr.
William Cashman
Georgine Rose Corrigan
Patricia Cushing
Jason Dahl
Joseph Deluca
Patrick Driscoll
Edward Porter Felt
Jane C. Folger
Colleen Fraser
Andrew Garcia
Jeremy Glick
Lauren Grandcolas
Wanda A. Green
Donald F. Greene
Linda Gronlund
Richard Guadagno
Leroy Homer, Jr.
Toshiya Kuge
CeeCee Lyles
Hilda Marcin
Waleska Martinez
Nicole Miller
Louis J. Nacke, II
Donald Arthur Peterson
Jean Hoadley Peterson
Mark Rothenberg
Christine Snyder
John Talignani
Honor Elizabeth Wainio
Deborah Ann Jacobs Welsh
Kristin Gould White

USS Cole Casualty List
Late 2000, 17 KIA




Kenneth Clodfelter, 21, Mechanicsville, VA. Hull Maintenance Tech 3rd Class.

Richard Costelow, 35, Morrisville, PA. Electronics Technician 1rst Class.

Lakeina Francis, 19, Woodleaf, NC. Mess Management Specialist.

Tim Gauna, 21, Rice, TX. Information Systems Technician.

Cherone Gunn, 22, Rex, GA. Signalman Seaman Recruit.

James McDaniels, 19, Norfolk, VA. Seaman.

Marc Nieto, 24, Fond du Lac, WI. Engineman 2nd Class.

Ronald Owens, 24, Vero Beach, FL. Electonics Warfare Technician 3rd Class.

Lakiba Palmer, 22, San Diego, CA. Seaman Recruit.

Joshua Parlett, 19, Churchville, MD. Engineman Fireman.

Patrick Roy, 19, Keedysville, MD. Fireman Apprentice.

Kevin Rux, 30, Portland, ND. Electronics Warfare Technician.

Ronchester Santiago, 22, Kingsville, TX. Petty Officer 3rd Class.

Timothy Saunders, 32, Ringgold, VA. Operations Specialist 2nd Class.

Gary Swenchonis Jr., 26, Rockport, TX. Fireman.

Andrew Triplett, 30, Macon, MS. Ensign.

Craig Wibberley, 19, Williamsport, MD. Seaman Apprentice.

...and countless others at other Al-Queada attacks http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_al-Qaeda_attacks

[Damn True]

Start a thread elsewhere if you want to discuss the political ramifications or foist conspiracy theories.

[vdaviemusclecars]

Just think of the guy who pulled the trigger killing him. He will never be able to tell anybody or talk about it. A true unsung hero to the US
Vince

[go-fish]

I've heard everything from U.S Spec Ops, to the CIA.

...to whomever pulled this one off!:cheers:



These guys
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Naval_Special_Warfare_Development_Gr oup

got a lift from
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/160th_Special_Operations_Aviation_Regiment_%28Unit ed_States%29
these guys.


I hear a lot of the news outlets saying these were "young men". If you know any of these guys you know if they get selected to either one of these Tier One teams then they are not young. They have multiple deployments and are on, probably, their 3rd 4 year enlistment. These are consummate professionals and have the Spartan spirit. The youngest man on that op has more life experience than just about any servicemember or civilian out there.
I think the media and most Americans think these kind of guys are just kids made to do a couple more push ups and given a good pep talk and told to go get 'em. These guys are real to life Jack Bauer's. Real professionals, as most servicemembers are, but these guys sacrifice having families and give up most hobbies that isn't in line with the type of training the do (freefall, mountain climbing, diving).
These guys are so wrapped up in their jobs because of the level of patriotism and love of country they have. They realize that marriages come and go, hobbies can be had in retirement, they are true believers.

[MrQuick]

buried at sea like Megatron....would have been more appropriate to wrap him in Louisiana ham and place him gently into a custom US made shoe box then filled with sweaty socks to be displayed at Disney Florida.

War isn't over.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif

[shmoov69]

Thanks DT.
I'm glad that the US govt didn't bail on searching for him. And that they were steadfast till the "job was done" so to speak. It shows the rest of the scumbags that we will not give up!
I wonder how it will affect the radicals, or if he was really that good of a leader, because if he was he would have his succession plan already worked out and "their" plan will not change.
I just hope that it is real and not some elaborate hoax to build morale. But that is another discussion altogether!

[Blown73]

I don't think I would plan on flying any time soon. I can't imagine Al Qaeda is going to just call it quits now that their leader is dead, and seeing that Osama can hide in a million dollar mansion, on the run for 10 years, there is probably a plan in place for if such an event were to happen. It is more scary that we got him than him being on the run.

With that said, we all know someone who has been in the military in the last 10 years. We cannot thank them enough for what they have done to keep this country safe.

[Damn True]

Reports indicating that the operators were from ST6.

New Rule: These guys drink free. FOR LIFE.

[go-fish]

Reports indicating that the operators were from ST6.


There's no such thing. :ssst:

[DartorDemon]

I think the "toss him in the ocean" (burial at sea) bit is a masterstroke. It will fuel all kinds of counter-productive denials and confirmation activity among al Qaeda itself, denies a pilgrimage shrine for sympathetic radicals, shows the world that the USA doesn't really care if other countries believe the report, and shows deference to Muslim custom that bodies are to be buried within one day of death.

Except they have pictures of his corpse

[Damn True]

Osama Bin Laden is dead. So why am I not happy? http://t.co/V00AJCh

[Nessumsar]

Osama Bin Laden is dead. So why am I not happy? http://t.co/V00AJCh

And that pretty much sums it up.

[parsonsj]

Except they have pictures of his corpseCorrect. And DNA. And video.

I'm not understanding what you mean.

[chicane67]

Officially... I have no comment.

Unofficially... TEAM America ! Fu*k YEAH !!

[Modo Innovations]

This is from a Dallas radio host, "God bless the US forces who put a bullet into Bin Laden. Buriel at sea was proper, but I would have enjoyed seeing his dead ass dragged through the streets of Manhattan wrapped in bacon." Mark Davis, WBAP

[sniper]

Start a thread elsewhere if you want to discuss the political ramifications or foist conspiracy theories.

Wow, really? So what is this thread for? Just cheering and jeering the death of Bin Laden? Just asking.
But the following is OK?

This is from a Dallas radio host, "God bless the US forces who put a bullet into Bin Laden. Buriel at sea was proper, but I would have enjoyed seeing his dead ass dragged through the streets of Manhattan wrapped in bacon." Mark Davis, WBAP
I just wonder how the clown that said that and the clowns that were cheering last night at the white house, thought about the Americans being drug through thte streets in Iraq?

[Damn True]

Mark,

From the original post:

I'm opening this thread for people to discuss and honor the victims of 9/11 and the brave Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, Marines, Coast Guardsmen and civilians who have given their life in service to this Great Nation in the pursuit the War on Terror.

Moderating PT.com is not my full time job. My read on Shannon's post is one of mixed feelings. I too am a bit conflicted. There's a part of me that would like to see his head on a pike at 1600 Pensylvania Ave, but at the same time I know that would only add fuel to the fire. Our guys did the right thing in respect to basic decency and in terms of the larger ramifications of a formal burial site.

If you'd like to keep the conversation away from conspiracy theories I'd appreciate not having to delete such content.

[sniper]

Mark,

Moderating PT.com is not my full time job. My read on Shannon's post is one of mixed feelings. I too am a bit conflicted. If you'd like to keep the conversation away from conspiracy theories I'd appreciate not having to delete such content.

I did not know these were conspiracies. Heck, were is the conspiracy in my post? I'll just start singing Born in the USA! Is that OK?

[muthstryker]

Osama Bin Killed.

[Damn True]

Mark,

There isn't any. I deleted the content. I'd prefer to not continue to do so. There is a thread in the political outhouse on the topic if you'd like to question the validity of the story as we know it thus far. Take it there: https://www.pro-touring.com/showthread.php?79361-Osama-was-Killed-and-Martians-Exist

[Blown73]

Can we sing "Party in the USA" by Miley Cyrus instead? :)

[Damn True]

We'll likely never know the names and faces of the men involved in this mission, nor should we, but here is a little background on the command they serve under.

http://nationaljournal.com/whitehouse/the-secret-team-that-killed-bin-laden-20110502


The Secret Team That Killed bin Laden

By Marc Ambinder
May 2, 2011 | 9:39 a.m.
Updated: May 2, 2011 | 10:53 a.m.

From Ghazi Air Base in Pakistan, the modified MH-60 helicopters made their way to the garrison suburb of Abbottabad, about 30 miles from the center of Islamabad. Aboard were Navy SEALs, flown across the border from Afghanistan, along with tactical signals, intelligence collectors, and navigators using highly classified hyperspectral imagers.

After bursts of fire over 40 minutes, 22 people were killed or captured. One of the dead was Osama bin Laden, done in by a double tap -- boom, boom -- to the left side of his face. His body was aboard the choppers that made the trip back. One had experienced mechanical failure and was destroyed by U.S. forces, military and White House officials tell National Journal.

Were it not for this high-value target, it might have been a routine mission for the specially trained and highly mythologized SEAL Team Six, officially called the Naval Special Warfare Development Group, but known even to the locals at their home base Dam Neck in Virginia as just DevGru.

This HVT was special, and the raids required practice, so they replicated the one-acre compound. Trial runs were held in early April.


DevGru belongs to the Joint Special Operations Command, an extraordinary and unusual collection of classified standing task forces and special-missions units. They report to the president and operate worldwide based on the legal (or extra-legal) premises of classified presidential directives. Though the general public knows about the special SEALs and their brothers in Delta Force, most JSOC missions never leak. We only hear about JSOC when something goes bad (a British aid worker is accidentally killed) or when something really big happens (a merchant marine captain is rescued at sea), and even then, the military remains especially sensitive about their existence. Several dozen JSOC operatives have died in Pakistan over the past several years. Their names are released by the Defense Department in the usual manner, but with a cover story -- generally, they were killed in training accidents in eastern Afghanistan. That’s the code.

How did the helos elude the Pakistani air defense network? Did they spoof transponder codes? Were they painted and tricked out with Pakistan Air Force equipment? If so -- and we may never know -- two other JSOC units, the Technical Application Programs Office and the Aviation Technology Evaluation Group, were responsible. These truly are the silent squirrels -- never getting public credit and not caring one whit. Since 9/11, the JSOC units and their task forces have become the U.S. government’s most effective and lethal weapon against terrorists and their networks, drawing plenty of unwanted, and occasionally unflattering, attention to themselves in the process.

JSOC costs the country more than $1 billion annually. The command has its critics, but it has escaped significant congressional scrutiny and has operated largely with impunity since 9/11. Some of its interrogators and operators were involved in torture and rendition, and the line between its intelligence-gathering activities and the CIA's has been blurred.

But Sunday’s operation provides strong evidence that the CIA and JSOC work well together. Sometimes intelligence needs to be developed rapidly, to get inside the enemy’s operational loop. And sometimes it needs to be cultivated, grown as if it were delicate bacteria in a petri dish.

In an interview at CIA headquarters two weeks ago, a senior intelligence official said the two proud groups of American secret warriors had been “deconflicted and basically integrated” -- finally -- 10 years after 9/11. Indeed, according to accounts given to journalists by five senior administration officials Sunday night, the CIA gathered the intelligence that led to bin Laden’s location. A memo from CIA Director Leon Panetta sent Sunday night provides some hints of how the information was collected and analyzed. In it, he thanked the National Security Agency and the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency for their help. NSA figured out, somehow, that there was no telephone or Internet service in the compound. How it did this without Pakistan’s knowledge is a secret. The NGIA makes the military’s maps but also develops their pattern recognition software -- no doubt used to help establish, by February of this year, that the CIA could say with “high probability” that bin Laden and his family were living there.

Recently, JSOC built a new Targeting and Analysis Center in Rosslyn, Va. Where the National Counterterrorism Center tends to focus on threats to the homeland, TAAC, whose existence was first disclosed by the Associated Press, focuses outward, on active “kinetic” -- or lethal -- counterterrorism missions abroad. Its creation surprised the NCTC’s director, Michael Leiter, who was suspicious about its intent until he visited.

That the center could be stood up under the nose of some of the nation’s most senior intelligence officials without their full knowledge testifies to the power and reach of JSOC, whose size has tripled since 9/11. The command now includes more than 4,000 soldiers and civilians. It has its own intelligence division, which may or may not have been involved in last night’s effort, and has gobbled up a number of free-floating Defense Department entities that allowed it to rapidly acquire, test, and field new technologies.

Under a variety of standing orders, JSOC is involved in more than 50 current operations spanning a dozen countries, and its units, supported by so-called "white," or acknowledged, special operations entities like Rangers, Special Forces battalions, SEAL teams, and Air Force special ops units from the larger Special Operations Command, are responsible for most of the “kinetic” action in Afghanistan.

Pentagon officials are conscious of the enormous stress that 10 years of war have placed on the command. JSOC resources are heavily taxed by the operational tempo in Afghanistan and Pakistan, officials have said. The current commander, Vice Adm. William McRaven, and Maj. Gen. Joseph Votel, McRaven’s nominated replacement, have been pushing to add people and intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance technology to areas outside the war theater where al-Qaida and its affiliates continue to thrive.

Earlier this year, it seemed that the elite units would face the same budget pressures that the entire military was experiencing. Not anymore. The military found a way, largely by reducing contracting staff and borrowing others from the Special Operations Command, to add 50 positions to JSOC. And Votel wants to add several squadrons to the “Tier One” units -- Delta and the SEALs.

When Gen. Stanley McChrystal became JSOC’s commanding general in 2004, he and his intelligence chief, Maj. Gen. Michael Flynn, set about transforming the way the subordinate units analyze and act on intelligence. Insurgents in Iraq were exploiting the slow decision loop that coalition commanders used, and enhanced interrogation techniques were frowned upon after the Abu Ghraib scandal. But the hunger for actionable tactical intelligence on insurgents was palpable.

The way JSOC solved this problem remains a carefully guarded secret, but people familiar with the unit suggest that McChrystal and Flynn introduced hardened commandos to basic criminal forensic techniques and then used highly advanced and still-classified technology to transform bits of information into actionable intelligence. One way they did this was to create forward-deployed fusion cells, where JSOC units were paired with intelligence analysts from the NSA and the NGA. Such analysis helped the CIA to establish, with a high degree of probability, that Osama bin Laden and his family were hiding in that particular compound.

These technicians could “exploit and analyze” data obtained from the battlefield instantly, using their access to the government’s various biometric, facial-recognition, and voice-print databases. These cells also used highly advanced surveillance technology and computer-based pattern analysis to layer predictive models of insurgent behavior onto real-time observations.

The military has begun to incorporate these techniques across the services. And Flynn will soon be promoted to a job within the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, where he’ll be tasked with transforming the way intelligence is gathered, analyzed, and utilized.

[Off Duty]

Didn't see the above post and link while writing this.
Good post T.


It's a great day for everybody that calls themself a U.S. citizen. Justice was finally served and we have no one to thank but our troops

Actually there are scores of people we need to thank for this appropriate and long overdue ending.

Civilian and military intelligence groups, indigenous people sympathetic to the American cause, the rank and file military and federal civilian agencies (CBP, FBI, DEA, etc) who kept on their asses all these years, and yes, the spec ops warriors who pulled off the final mission.


... We need something like this to pick up the spirits of the soldiers and the public.
Amen! That we did!


Everybody has a right to how they react. I'm glad he's dead, I'm just not sure much gravity it will have on the terrorists.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say little real effect in the overall picture.
That is, unless you want to consider the impetus it may provide to terrorist cells to "vindicate" his death.


Dumping him at sea within 24 hours is fine with me. What else are they going to do with the body and I just don't agree with sinking to other's level. We got him, now he can be fish food.

All day I've heard all the excuses why the U.S. should not have provided him a "proper burial."
I've heard the rhetoric and all the talking heads that simply regurgitate what they hear and read, but frankly, to do anything less, would lower us to the standards we so despise of our enemy.
It's the old "2 wrongs, don't make a right."
Honorable men understand this.:usa:


These guys
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Naval_Special_Warfare_Development_Gr oup

got a lift from
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/160th_Special_Operations_Aviation_Regiment_%28Unit ed_States%29
these guys.

I hear a lot of the news outlets saying these were "young men". If you know any of these guys you know if they get selected to either one of these Tier One teams then they are not young. They have multiple deployments and are on, probably, their 3rd 4 year enlistment. These are consummate professionals and have the Spartan spirit. The youngest man on that op has more life experience than just about any service member or civilian out there.
I think the media and most Americans think these kind of guys are just kids made to do a couple more push ups and given a good pep talk and told to go get 'em. These guys are real to life Jack Bauer's. Real professionals, as most service members are, but these guys sacrifice having families and give up most hobbies that isn't in line with the type of training the do (freefall, mountain climbing, diving).
These guys are so wrapped up in their jobs because of the level of patriotism and love of country they have. They realize that marriages come and go, hobbies can be had in retirement, they are true believers.

I'll just say that I essentially agree with your assessment.
I have 2 very close friends on the teams, and I'll leave it at that.

I was listening to the schnit show today (another arrogant little idiot emeritus in his own right who thinks he knows what's going on) when some damned Walter Mitty wanna be, actually had the co-jones to call the station.
He starts out asking the host if the station has the ability to "scramble voices" :rotfl: , then proceeds to state "I can't tell you what I do, but", and begins to "assure" the audience that Bin Laden really is dead blah, blah, blah....:rotfl:
I really hate these types:banghead:


There's no such thing. :ssst:

Finally, somebody got it right! :)


Osama Bin Laden is dead. So why am I not happy? http://t.co/V00AJCh

Feckin' pretty much dead on my friend.

As a side note, many of the higher profile captures, recoveries, extractions, etc over the last 20 years, have been done or led, by CAGS and DEVGRU.
( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combat_Applications_Group ).

Various groups have taken public credit for these operations, including the Columbian military, various U.S. military groups and so forth.
All this talk about "SEAL Team 6" really sort of surprises me.
It's just not generally their MO.

Regardless of who actually pulled the trigger, it had to be cumulative effort, or it would have never gotten off the ground.
And I don't care if it were a 10 year old cub scout, the fact remains, someone did it, and did a damned good job of it!

Am I "happy" another life has been taken?
In this case, the truth of the matter is yes, and I'd toast to it in the right scenario.
But I won't go out and "party" over the fact.

And I won't say "WE" took him out. Just another of my pet peeves.:usa::cheers::cheers::cheers:

Again well done to those involved.:cheers::cheers::cheers:

[sr73bu]

Huge Thanks to ALL the Men and Women of our Armed Forces.
Screw all the political crap....Its the men and women with boots on ground that worked at this for years that need to be thanked.
I hope this helps bring some closure to the families that lost loved ones on 9/11 as well as the familes that lost love ones serving this country.

-Sean

[79-TA]

People have said that this will not change anything. For the most part, that's true. It might not change much, but a message was sent. Anyone willing to organize terrorist attacks against the United States had better be willing to end up being killed. There is no safe haven.

[Damn True]

Just out of curiosity I thought I'd check.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif

I'm still pissed off.

A couple of personal stories for you guys tomorrow. Right now I'm going to go say a couple of prayers and hit the sack.

[NOPANTS-68]

Yeah still pisses me off too. Went to ground zero a couple times last year and it just fried me.

I don't care what we did with the body. Dude's dead and becoming eel food by now. We have pages and pages of his "soldiers" that we still have to catch so the fight will continue. It's a great moment for the ghosts that got him and I think it cascades down to every one of us, but there's lots of work to be done.

Evidently waterboarding at Gitmo works...............................huh, who'd a thought!

[Damn True]

Yeah still pisses me off too. Went to ground zero a couple times last year and it just fried me.

I don't care what we did with the body. Dude's dead and becoming eel food by now. We have pages and pages of his "soldiers" that we still have to catch so the fight will continue. It's a great moment for the ghosts that got him and I think it cascades down to every one of us, but there's lots of work to be done.


Next: Ayman al-Zawahri

[NOPANTS-68]

Yup- I guess there's a $25M bounty on this cat.

[Blown73]

Now, there was a $25M bounty on OBL too, does the trigger man get that?

[go-fish]

Now, there was a $25M bounty on OBL too, does the trigger man get that?


Schiiiit, give $25M to a Sailor? It would be gone by the time he left the next port! Hookers and Rum, biatches!

[Blown73]

That's a lot of hookers!

[CarlC]

Not for ST6.

[protour73]

Not for ST6.Carl.....shhhhhhh, there's no such thing as ST6!! :secret:

[Damn True]

Technically, you are correct. The unit was decommissioned and blended into DevGru.

Having known a few SEAL's over the years and their level of discipline I rather think that they'd have the money invested and growing at a beyond index rate rather than blowing it on something silly.

[Off Duty]

Technically, you are correct. The unit was decommissioned and blended into DevGru.

Having known a few SEAL's over the years and their level of discipline I rather think that they'd have the money invested and growing at a beyond index rate rather than blowing it on something silly.

With 2 close friends on 2 different teams, and some friends from the past, I'd have to agree with that 100%!

[Off Duty]

People have said that this will not change anything. For the most part, that's true. It might not change much, but a message was sent. Anyone willing to organize terrorist attacks against the United States had better be willing to end up being killed. There is no safe haven.

Least we forget.
These a-holes want to be martyrs.

[79-TA]

Least we forget.
These a-holes want to be martyrs.

Yes and no. Clearly, Osama was in no rush to find a dynamite vest for himself.

[Daren]

Yes and no. Clearly, Osama was in no rush to find a dynamite vest for himself.

Yeah, I'm thinking that whole "70+ virgins blah blah... can't wait to blow myself up" speak is a product of the terrorist jargon. It's a scare tactic from what I understand. Sure there are crazies out there, but my understanding is that these suicide bombers are people who have been payed large sums of money to be the delivery system by the terrorist organizations. I have to believe the "Fear us! We just can't wait to kill ourselves to kill you!" is scare tactic. Any money and time spent on dismantling these terrorist organizations is well spent.

[79-TA]

^There are certainly terrorists who are willing to kill themselves just to kill others. I'm not going to psychoanalyze them to figure out what combination of brainwashed, misled, evil, and fanatical they are.

My original post simply points out that the leaders, who seemed to have actual concern for their own lives, should have even less hope for safe haven.

[go-fish]

Having known a few SEAL's over the years and their level of discipline I rather think that they'd have the money invested and growing at a beyond index rate rather than blowing it on something silly.

My last comment was all in fun but next time you're down my way we can hit up McPartland's or another bar and still have a rum drink.

[DartorDemon]

Yeah, I'm thinking that whole "70+ virgins blah blah... can't wait to blow myself up" speak is a product of the terrorist jargon. It's a scare tactic from what I understand. Sure there are crazies out there, but my understanding is that these suicide bombers are people who have been payed large sums of money to be the delivery system by the terrorist organizations. I have to believe the "Fear us! We just can't wait to kill ourselves to kill you!" is scare tactic. Any money and time spent on dismantling these terrorist organizations is well spent.

Well depending on the translation its a part of their religion. Its just like the big religion in this country. The big holy book is this country has a whole lot of nonsense that only the fundy's follow.

" "Verily, for the Muttaqun [righteous], there will be a success (paradise); gardens and grapeyards; and young full-breasted (mature) maidens of equal age; and a full cup (of wine)" (An-Naba 78:31-34)."

However, in the link found it stated that other translations change "full-breasted" to "companion". But regardless, heaven has a large number of women for you and death in a holy war sends you to heaven.

poor education + raised with crazed views= crazy people.

[MrQuick]

There are those that live in this world whom are willing to die for what they happen to believe in. Don't judge the man by questioning the belief.

Some die for their country, others would die for an idea. Crazy? Hard to say.

[DartorDemon]

There are those that live in this world whom are willing to die for what they happen to believe in. Don't judge the man by questioning the belief.

Some die for their country, others would die for an idea. Crazy? Hard to say.

Sure, but we can all say for sure their beforehand their country existed and fighting for that country is meant to have an effect to help that country maintain its security/safety/?(having a bit of brain fart for the right word there at the end)

People who die for their religions are dying for something which has no evidence(regardless of who/what we're talking of). That is crazy IMO.

[go-fish]

"Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home.
He knows only The Cause.

Still want to quit?" -An 18D, (but has been on the wall of many SOF specific schoolhouses.)

[DarkBuddha]

RIP .....Osama Bin Laden... Hide and Seek World Champion 2001-2011

[vanzuuk1]

I felt a little sick hearing Americans calling for his body to be mutilated, but I think it had to be done.

[vanzuuk1]

John said it for me.




Well put. I was put off by the cheering celebrations... we didn't just win the Super Bowl. I think this news should be met with sober thoughts and renewed resolve to protect American lives here and abroad.