Shallow pan for a 6L90e

[Bobs 67Camaro]

Does anyone know which of the 6l80e and 6L90e pans have the lowest profile? I have a 6l90e, and know that there is a shallower 6L80e pan that can be modified (modify pan, and use the 6l80 filter). I believe it is either the pan from the CTS or the G8. I currently have 1.75-2" of tranny pan below my frame rails (I have not cut my tunnel....yet). I have a speedtech track time package with a l92/6L90e combo in a 67 Camaro.

Thank you in advance!
Bob

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[Poorhousenext]

Does anyone know which of the 6l80e and 6L90e pans have the lowest profile? I have a 6l90e, and know that there is a shallower 6L80e pan that can be modified (modify pan, and use the 6l80 filter). I believe it is either the pan from the CTS or the G8. I currently have 1.75-2" of tranny pan below my frame rails (I have not cut my tunnel....yet). I have a speedtech track time package with a l92/6L90e combo in a 67 Camaro.

Thank you in advance!
Bob

Bob,

Couple of years back GM powertrain showed caddy 6L80E had a shallow pan. Don't no if thats still true are not.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/04/128470d12086530476l806l90into68camarodoe-1.jpg

G8/Holden 6L80E has shallow pan that appears to be the same as Cadi pan. I'm assuming one of the part numbers for pan and filter are still good. I purchased the 24239528 pan and 24239528 filter for it back in 2008 for my build.

Shallow VE/G8 filter: 24236930* (revised from 24236932).

Shallow pan - VE/G8: 24228399* or 24239528 (VIN specific?)

[Poorhousenext]

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Here is what ground clearance looks like on a 68 Camaro with 6L90E. Build is from Down Under so you have to convert Millimeters to inches.

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He used Modified Holden SE/Pontiac G8 pan to get a little more ground clearance.

6L80e Deep pan ground clearance on my 66 C2, and that is not with suspension set to ride height I'd like to run.

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[Bobs 67Camaro]

Thank you so much. This helps a lot. .8" will help a lot ( I will only be 1-1.25" below my frame rails.)

Sounds like there aren't any aftermarket suppliers yet?

[Poorhousenext]

Thank you so much. This helps a lot. .8" will help a lot ( I will only be 1-1.25" below my frame rails.)

Sounds like there aren't any aftermarket suppliers yet?

No pan suppliers and I doubt if there will be for a while.

Street & performance has cooling line plate if your not planning on using ones with lines from G8 or a truck. http://hotrodlane.cc/

Best assortment of information on 6L80/90E is thread on 68 Camaro install on LS1Tech. Might be a few more part numbers for things you may need. Guy who started thread is always willing to help people.

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/conversions-hybrids/898899-6l80-6l90-into-68-camaro-does-go.html

[Bobs 67Camaro]

I will look him up. I just became a member of LS1Tech.

I plan to use Twist Machines Paddles, and hope to order soon.

Thanks again

[Bobs 67Camaro]

Here is the good pan #24239528
The good filter #: 24236932
They are both for the G8 6L80e. They are not the same numbers as the CTS. I do not know if the CTS is shallower.

Any good suggestions on a Shifter? (I plan to use Twist Machine's Paddles, and was told the G6 shifter seemed to be a easy retro fit.)

[Poorhousenext]

Here is the good pan #24239528
The good filter #: 24236932
They are both for the G8 6L80e. They are not the same numbers as the CTS. I do not know if the CTS is shallower.

Any good suggestions on a Shifter? (I plan to use Twist Machine's Paddles, and was told the G6 shifter seemed to be a easy retro fit.)

Just noticed I repeated the 24239528 pan number twice. Last time as filter number.

Sorry about that. I even went out and got the number off original box for filter and then typed in the pan number.

Any shifter with this common pattern will work. I used the G8 one because it has TU/TD position. Sine you will be using paddles, you don't need that feature.

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My guess is the G6 shifter is same as G8. It most likly will need a console built to cover it.

G8 shifter I used. Just built a cover for it.

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In my other 6 speed car, I'm using a shift works shifter that fits like original automatic shifter did. It has aftermarket 6 speed that can handle up to 850 HP. The 6L80E can't handle the 430 HP LS3 in Corvette or 400 HP of the G8 if you beat on it. It handles normal driving with no problems.

The 6L80 car will be my cruise around car.

[Bobs 67Camaro]

I am assuming the first picture is of a Caddy. Your console turned out great.

[Poorhousenext]

I am assuming the first picture is of a Caddy. Your console turned out great.

Yep, thats a Caddy shifter. It's the one I wanted, but was about double the cost of the G8 one.

G8 as installed.

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Another Caddy one from cheaper model.

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I would have gone with one of the Shift Works shifters if I had gone with paddles. Check out the link below and you may find a stock looking one for your car at least in 68 model. A stock 67 PG shifter might work for you.

http://www.shiftworks.com/kits.htm

[hifi875]

6l90e gas a different pan than a 6l80e. it is slightly longer. poeple have made a extension and welded it onto 6l80 shallow pan.(ls1tech.com)

[Poorhousenext]

6l90e gas a different pan than a 6l80e. it is slightly longer. poeple have made a extension and welded it onto 6l80 shallow pan.(ls1tech.com)

He might want to check with Cadillac parts department to see if the 6l90E MYD might have shallow pan and filter. Being in the MYD family it may not. If not he will have no choice except to extend the 6L80E shallow pan. Per his original post he is aware that 6L8 pan has to be extended.

http://www.gmpowertrain.com/VehicleEngines/ProductPortfolio.aspx?tid=68&pid=2

LSA 6.2L V-8 - Cadillac | CTS-V (Sedan, Cpe, Wag.) Engine Family RPO Fuel Type Plot Photo Specs Story Auto Trans Family RPO Photo Specs Story Manual Trans Family RPO Photo Specs Story
Gen 4
LSA 91/93 Premium Required Hydra-Matic - 6L90 MYD - Tremec 6L95M - TR6060 MG9

[Bobs 67Camaro]

I will call a Caddy dealer tomorrow, and see what I can find.

I will keep you informed, and provide PN's.

[Poorhousenext]

Thank you so much. This helps a lot. .8" will help a lot ( I will only be 1-1.25" below my frame rails.)

Sounds like there aren't any aftermarket suppliers yet?

Bob,

You might want to go see if you can see the pan on a 6L90E equipped 2011 CTS-V Coup, Sedan or wagon.

I stoped by local Cadillac dealer and checked on Pan & filter number for CTS. Couldn't tell from breakdown picture if it was shallower than a truck pan are not. When we ran the pan part number to see what all might use it (wanted to see if P/N fit other models that use 6L90E), it only came up for the 2011 CTS-V Coupe, Sedan and Wagon.

Pan Part Number - 24248164, Filter - 24236933 & Gasket - 24226850. There is a Kit number for Filter too.

[Bobs 67Camaro]

I called the Caddy Dealership today, and they gave me the following #'s:
Pan: 24248164 $47.22
Filter: 24236933 $55.62
We go these numbers by running the VIN of the CTS-V on the floor. I currently have them on order, and will compare them to the G8's that I have on order with the Chevy dealer!

Thanks for looking! Seems like we found the same parts.

[Poorhousenext]

If pan does turn out to be shallow, would you post info on Rssz28 thread. It get lots of viewers that may be looking for same information.

If my knees weren't so bad I'd got down and checked to see if it wasn't shallower.

Sure hope it works out.

[Bobs 67Camaro]

I will do so. Thanks for your help!

The truck 6L90e has a 3.3" deep pan, while the G8's is around 2.5". I am hoping the Caddy is similar to the G8.

[Bobs 67Camaro]

Bad news. The pan was shaped differently, but the overall depth was the same (around 3.25 - 3.3" deep). Looks like I will be making my own!
Definitely worth a try.

[Poorhousenext]

Bad news. The pan was shaped differently, but the overall depth was the same (around 3.25 - 3.3" deep). Looks like I will be making my own!
Definitely worth a try.

That's a Bummer. Was hoping pan would work out for those with 6L90E needing more ground clearance.

Thanks for the update.

[DeltaT]

It's probably what you mean, but it looks like you could easily take a slice out of the deep section of the pan then weld it back up.

Jim

[Poorhousenext]

It's probably what you mean, but it looks like you could easily take a slice out of the deep section of the pan then weld it back up.

Jim

Jim it's not only the pan that has to changed, it's the filter too. Filter needs to be shorter also. Shallower G8 pan has a filter that matches up with it. Adding extension to G8 pan to make up for it's shorter length is the way to get around filter problem.

[buck19]

Bad news. The pan was shaped differently, but the overall depth was the same (around 3.25 - 3.3" deep). Looks like I will be making my own!
Definitely worth a try.

Did you end up making a new pan or modifying a G8 shallow pan and filter? If so, I would appreciate any photos or guidance you could provide. We have an LSA-6L90e from a 09 CTSV that we are installing into a 67 Corvette. We are seeking the same info and updates on:

Shallow pan solution
ECM-TCM 6L90e Communications & Programming (With engine and TC modifications)

Thanks for sharing.

[Bobs 67Camaro]

Buck19,

I actually have a 6L80e, not a 90. I was unaware at the time. I ended up using a G8 pan/filter.

I think you could modify a G8 pan/filter (lengthen) to work with a 90?

Sorry I could not be of more help.

[1989GTA]

"I think you could modify a G8 pan/filter (lengthen) to work with a 90?"

I saw where someone did just that. It may have been someone down in Australia if I remember right.

[SShep71]

I am working on a custom shallow pan design for the 6L90 transmission. When I get back and get things figured out maybe I will put a few out there. This is like 6-8 months out just an FYI.

[maxxom]

Just purchased the g8 pan, filter, etc. Keep an eye on my build for answers in about a week.

[larry dzwonkus]

Hi, i am planning on installing a efi 6.0 engine along with the 6speed trans fm a 2011 chevy silverado 6l90e and will have the same problem with the depth of the trans pan into my 68camaro???? can u keep me advised on yr progress with the trans pan problem so that i can fix the pan problem on my 68camaro....also i plan on using the pwr glide shifter that came with the 68 camaro...tks larry

[maxxom]

Hi, i am planning on installing a efi 6.0 engine along with the 6speed trans fm a 2011 chevy silverado 6l90e and will have the same problem with the depth of the trans pan into my 68camaro???? can u keep me advised on yr progress with the trans pan problem so that i can fix the pan problem on my 68camaro....also i plan on using the pwr glide shifter that came with the 68 camaro...tks larry

Sure thing. Follow this.............My Project Progress http://www.nastyz28.com/forum/showthread.php?t=237233 (http://www.nastyz28.com/forum/showthread.php?t=237233My)

[1989GTA]

I think your best bet is to get two G8 pans and weld them together as needed along with a G8 filter.

[maxxom]

This will be most helpful for you...........http://ls1tech.com/forums/conversions-hybrids/1704437-69-camaro-g8-6l80e-swap-build-thread.html

[Chris Edwards]

This will be most helpful for you...........http://ls1tech.com/forums/conversions-hybrids/1704437-69-camaro-g8-6l80e-swap-build-thread.html

Bringing this back up. Anyone have luck with grafting the G8 pan to the front of the 6L90 pan? Wasn't sure if there would be a problem with starvation or fluid capacity?