View Full Version : 68 Mustang Coupe | Project 3rd Time's the Charm
Hello all -- My name is JB and I've been reading threads, project updates and nosing around on this forum for long enough -- time for my own build thread.
I've had my 68 Mustang Coupe for nearly 14 years now (since before I could drive) and it's certainly been a long time coming for the build I have planned.
The car has always been a Northeastern US car (being built right in NJ) and now residing with me on Long Island. It was originally Meadowlark yellow, with a straight 6 and C4 automatic. When I purchased it, the body was mostly just a primer gray. The drive train was still all in tact and it ran/drove great as my first car. I had slapped on some American Racing Outlaw rims/tires and had the bodywork done and painted in the purple color seen in the pictures below -- certainly did turn heads. That was the first time I did the car.
For the second time around I decided to make the change to a V8 and manual trans -- so out with the I6 and in went an 88 302 roller motor, holley 650cfm 4-barrel, T-5 5-speed and a 9" rear. I did some additional upgrades like subframe connectors, newer style Mustang GT rims (2001 I believe), cobra 13" disc brakes up front and the autometer gauges. A homemade rack and pinion setup went in as well. Fun stuff -- but not designed and integrated as I would have hoped. I think it was more of a time crunch just to get the car "moving under it's own power" than really creating a street machine.
That is how the car sits as shown in the pictures below. Not really too fun to drive. The steering setup is not properly dialed in or set up with the suspension, the external fuel pump is noisy and doesn't seal properly, the engine is not tuned or as smooth running as I'd like -- and the more I've learned with reading up on with peoples builds and projects on here -- the more I organize my plan of attack for whipping this car into shape to earn the title of pro-touring. I've learned a ton over the past few years (not only on here but in my fabrication business) -- so I think a complete overhaul is in order -- am I crazy? Maybe. My grandfather was a Ford master mechanic for 30 years -- so the "crazy about Ford" runs in my blood.
My dad sure seems to think so -- he keeps trying to convince me to purchase another Mustang to strip down to nothing and build up -- over tearing this one down.:bicycle:
Anyhow -- my "3rd time around" project plans are in the second post & below are some pictures for everyone -- glad to be on here!:cheers:
Feedback and constructive criticism are always welcomed!
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My updated plans as of 10/08/17
Chassis/Suspension/Steering:
-Overhaul of the entire frame-
-2x3 inch square chassis subframe connectors w/narrowed rear end dimensions
-seam-welding all throughout the body
-back-halved car w/narrow frame rails for wide tires
-subtle roll cage (for chassis stiffness and a clean integration of the interior -- (no tripping over bars getting in/out)
-shock tower notching for better engine fitment
-front coilover suspension --AJE Racing setup -- Quick-Ratio Manual Rack & Pinion Setup
-3-link setup rear end with a watt's locating link
Engine/Drivetrain/Brakes:
-351w based 408 stroker setup / Street setup - torque vs HP
-Tremec/G-Force Trans
-Fab-9 9" rear (with the above mentioned 3-link setup) and 4.30 gears
-04 Cobra OEM Rear Brakes, 04 Cobra 13" Fronts, Hydraulic Clutch Pedal Setup
Wheels/Tires:
-Going for a "modern muscle" concave look
-19x12 rear 345 Tires (Forgestar F14's in Piano Gloss Black)
-17x8/9 front 245 -275 tires -depending on fitment
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Mostly Achieved The Look on the rear rim stance :)
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Body/Exterior:
-Burnt Copper Orange (flat) - BLACK accents throughout
-LED Headlights
-LED lighting throughout
Interior/Electrical:
-Autometer gauge setup
-Full Standard Modern Wiring Harness/Fuse Panel
-06 WRX TR Cloth Sport Seats
-Rear seat ditched in favor of a back-half setup - clean "Boxed" insulated panels
More to come -- I'm sure I missed a few details as the list is always growing -- feel free to share feedback on the plans/ideas as well:idea:
Well not the most thrilling updates -- but at least I'm digging in. Took off a bunch of front end parts (fenders, hood, valence, bumpers -- etc). I need to make the front chassis mount for the rotisserie so they all had to go anyhow.
Included a picture of the homemade rotisserie too.
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I almost think the car looks better now than before:rotfl:
Sorry for the terrible phone pics -- hope to get more with the SLR as things progress this weekend :)
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69projectKAOS
03-31-2011, 12:32 PM
welcome! the car looked good to begin with, but im sure it will turn out even nicer. Its good to see more and more pro-touring guys out here on the island, where you located? -Dom
Bryce
03-31-2011, 01:12 PM
Cool car! I cant wait to see the progress!
welcome! the car looked good to begin with, but im sure it will turn out even nicer. Its good to see more and more pro-touring guys out here on the island, where you located? -Dom
Thanks! Yea that's what my Dad kept saying -- "just fix this, do that -- patch this up" he really doesn't get how much of a beast this will end up being -- and how infinitely much easier it will be to drive and enjoy.
Huntington area. What about you?
Cool car! I cant wait to see the progress!
Thanks! I can't wait to see the progress also :rotfl: Love that Falcon thread (yup die hard Ford fan here) -- the Watts link writeup is great -- that's definitely the route I'll be going for the rear.
69projectKAOS
04-01-2011, 05:59 AM
I live in mastic beach,it`s south of the L.I.E. by smith point beach.-Dom
I live in mastic beach,it`s south of the L.I.E. by smith point beach.-Dom
Nice! Not far at all. I'll have to see your ride in person.
Got the glass out today, along with the drivers door and a few interior bits.
Just have to pull the motor/drive-line/suspension & interior -- then the real fun starts :twothumbs
I was also able to bolt up the rotisserie mounts I've made and test them -- nice and strong -- should have no problems rotating the car.
A few clearer pictures as promised :)
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Mmm---rotted through---at least I've got my work laid out for me :(
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crustysack
04-09-2011, 01:48 PM
everyones thinking it, I'm just sayin it- remove the tasmanian devil mudflaps
other than that it looks like you have a solid plan and will have a great car
everyones thinking it, I'm just sayin it- remove the tasmanian devil mudflaps
other than that it looks like you have a solid plan and will have a great car
HAHA yea I agree with your statement AND what everyone else is thinking -- those are gone this time around. They were kinda fun for the years I drove the car everyday -- but not anymore -- strictly a CLEAN looking exterior!
Some more updated pics below (yet the mudflaps still remain somehow :confused:)
Got the interior completely out, the whole wiring harness and some other small things.
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Tearing up the sound deadening is a pain in the ASS ... and those spots aren't rust, it's a layer of protection paint -- which will all be stripped away anyhow
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I am DEFINITELY glad I have a mini tub in my plans -- even before seeing this -- I knew there were some rot spots -- but forgot just how large. This will all be cut out and replaced with new sections and a new mini tub well
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I'm a little frustrated at the quarter panels -- I thought they were in better shape or would be better done -- considering I paid someone to do them --- if I only knew then what I know now :nopity:
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And some more repair spots near the upper door hinge/pillar
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I plan on taking off a few more small things tomorrow -- some on the engine -- and then pulling the entire engine/trans/driveline (and yes mudflaps) next weekend --- then it's onto the rotisserie!:fingersx:
pro-touringAK
04-10-2011, 07:56 AM
subscribed. Welcome. I also have a 68 coupe so it'll be fun to get ideas for the future. Good luck
subscribed. Welcome. I also have a 68 coupe so it'll be fun to get ideas for the future. Good luck
Thanks! Glad to be here. I just looked up your 68 -- love the silver. I think a silver is the route I am going to go. Clean and simple :)
Lookin forward to keeping everyone updated.
bonecrrusher
04-12-2011, 02:18 PM
Cool project - glad to see you ditching the mudflaps! LOL.
1tuff68
04-12-2011, 03:26 PM
Off to a great start. Looking forward to this project
Cool project - glad to see you ditching the mudflaps! LOL.
Thanks -- glad they will be going as well -- they were fun for their time -- but not anymore. I actually originally got them to keep mud, rocks and other things from flinging all over the bottom of the quarters -- but I have some new ideas in mind for this time around.
Off to a great start. Looking forward to this project
Thanks -- I'm looking forward as well -- so far so good -- my timing is on point with what I wanted, which is to have the car 100% gutted and on the rotisserie by the end of this month. Almost there!
Crestronwizard
04-13-2011, 06:19 AM
Nice build! Subscribed. Motivation for me to get back to work on mine :-)
hat is how the car sits as shown in the pictures below
Hat ?? Not sure what you mean -- sorry.
Nice build! Subscribed. Motivation for me to get back to work on mine :-)
Thanks! It's gonna be a long tough road -- but well worth it :) I hope to have some more updates this weekend or next as the drivetrain comes out soon!
Well nothing really thrilling to update -- but at least there is continued teardown progress. Got a bunch more of the sound deadening removed (nearly all gone now) -- removed lines, wires and linkage to the motor and trans -- they are ready to be lifted out!
Also gutted out the trunk -- battery and box are gone, wiring, trunk decklid hinges, fuel cell and all connections.
I'm really looking forward to removing everything rear of the front floor pans to start fresh with clean metal. Hopefully by next month. :yeah:
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Yay--motor and trans are finally out! Not much left now -- a few front end components, the rear axle/leafs (all will just unbolt and roll away) and it's time for metal cut & fab work :) My intended goal of having the car completely stripped by the end of April is looking good.
Just a few pics
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Finally got the car in the air. It's always nice to know the welding you've done is strong enough :)
Only twisted it a little as I had to get things into the garage for the approaching rain. I'll soon be able to dig in and get the chassis going soon!
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Cobraclone
05-09-2011, 01:18 PM
Looks good. What kind of front suspension do have right now in the car? Looks like some type of strut with coilovers. Were you running headers before? What kind of headers did you use to clear the steering?
Looks good. What kind of front suspension do have right now in the car? Looks like some type of strut with coilovers. Were you running headers before? What kind of headers did you use to clear the steering?
It was a kind of mockup/quick design setup -- mocked up lower control arms, with an SN95 ball joint and knuckle attached to a 2000 Mustang Strut. The coilover kit was a generic one with QA1 springs. The brakes are Cobra 13" setups.
The headers were generic 5.0 shorties -- nothing fancy -- they BARELY cleared the steering link.
I plan on an all new setup this time around -- more of a takeoff from the newer Mustangs -- fabbed to fit the 68 frame rails. :)
Cobraclone
05-10-2011, 05:19 AM
Looking forward to the upcomming updates. Keep the pictures comming! Thanks for the information.
It was a kind of mockup/quick design setup -- mocked up lower control arms, with an SN95 ball joint and knuckle attached to a 2000 Mustang Strut. The coilover kit was a generic one with QA1 springs. The brakes are Cobra 13" setups.
The headers were generic 5.0 shorties -- nothing fancy -- they BARELY cleared the steering link.
I plan on an all new setup this time around -- more of a takeoff from the newer Mustangs -- fabbed to fit the 68 frame rails. :)
fordgasm67
07-20-2011, 11:34 AM
looking good!!!! Makes me want to work on mine again...
Looking forward to the upcomming updates. Keep the pictures comming! Thanks for the information.
looking good!!!! Makes me want to work on mine again...
Thanks guys -- I've been slacking on updates and progress to be honest. I opened a new shop last month and it's sucking down ALL of my time.
We're finally catching up though and I expect to start back in on the project soon...planning on buying a sandblaster to start stripping things down :)
Well the new shop I mentioned has literally taken up a ton of my time. The past three months have been crazy -- I've had little time to do anything but get that place moving and really functional.
Now that it's more stable...back to the stang :headbang:
I sourced a 345/30-19 Nitto Invo rear tire for mockup...and decided a mini-tub wasn't for me. The car has seen nothing but northeastern weather all of it's life. The original rear rails, inner wheel wells and frame structure were pretty much roasted...so I figured I would start fresh.
I ordered a set of brand new mandrel bent rails, 2x3 square tubing and got the car back on level ground with jack stands (I was tearing it down on the rotisserie).
Today I spent a few hours cutting out basically the whole rear section, it actually wasn't too bad. My next step will be to go back, clean up all the edges and remove any extra spots of metal that would otherwise be replaced.
After that's set and done, the rails can go in nice an parallel for better tire clearance and strength all the way back. I'm still debating on removing the outer wheel wells -- but they have a taper on them that I hate...I really want this tire to sit as flush as possible to the quarter lip. I'll end up stretching the quarter I think as well.
A few shots... happy Monday :)
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Rols574
09-14-2011, 02:58 AM
I know it was a test but how did the front come out? were you happy with it?
I know it was a test but how did the front come out? were you happy with it?
The front of what? The car? Or the front part of the rear? I haven't done anything with the front suspension yet -- I plan on doing an AJE K-member w/a-arms setup.
As for the front of the rear suspension, still to be built, I plan on doing a 2x3 crossmember, with the frame rails tied in and a very subtle roll cage tying things together.
I've been putting in some time on Mondays and have made some progress...
Rear rails and flooring are all gone. New center member is in, along with frame rails -- they are all just tacked up for measurement, fitment and leveling. The center crossmember still needs its center hoop.
First couple pics are mocking up the rails :
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Got the rails measured, leveled and tacked in.
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All my measurements were within 1/16" or .1-.2 degrees. Win!
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Tossed the tire up on blocks just for some rough fitting -- I can picture this being almost were it sits at ride height -- possibly a touch higher. Those outer wheel wells have to go too...
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LazyMod
11-02-2011, 06:45 PM
JB, Those are some meaty meats for a Stang!
I have a 67 that I've owned for 8 years, and when I think about doing another resto on it I can't decide whether to tear into it or sell it and buy a basket case. I'm glad you are hookin this baby up though, Good Job
JB, Those are some meaty meats for a Stang!
I have a 67 that I've owned for 8 years, and when I think about doing another resto on it I can't decide whether to tear into it or sell it and buy a basket case. I'm glad you are hookin this baby up though, Good Job
Thanks -- it's definitely an undertaking that's for sure. The tires are huge for sure. I have 265's on my Subaru STI and I thought they were larger sized...they are tiny trolls compared to those 345's :)
I've actually made some progress in the past couple weeks-- just no time to update this thread.
The outer wheel wells are all cut out, and everything behind the quarter panels is cleaned up and epoxy sealed. The rear end is all measured for and I should be finalizing that order today...I expect it to ship by early next week. Once it arrives I have to weld on all the 3-link brackets and such... so I should have this car back on the ground and rolling around before Thanksgiving, or at least the end of this month.
I still have to get some DOM tubing and start the hidden roll cage too, at least some of the back components to keep anything from flexing before all the tins go back in.
Hopefully I'll have pictures soon.
Finally making some moves :)
The rear and components are starting to arrive this week (housing, axles, DOM tubing/brackets/rod-ends). I plan on tackling the mock-up and link positioning this coming Monday. I've decided to stick with a 3-link design and a watt's link setup for centering. I expect the rims in a few weeks as well :jump:
Rear housing is a Chris Alston's Fab 9 w/backbrace kit & Strange Street ST 35-spline Axles
The pics don't do everything justice, this stuff is beefy.
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A few more updates this week :)
I spent a little time welding up the back braces onto the Fab9 housing -- I've gotta say, this thing looks bomb proof. I really can't imagine breaking this.
I set it up on legs after a good amount of time measuring, re-measuring, checking pinion angle (approximate angle that is, in relation to the chassis) and then measuring once more :) From here I should be able to dial in my locations for the 3-link brackets, tack them in place and then final weld them with the rear taken off the car. I'll take measurements for the arm lengths as well.
The lower links will be 1/8" wall DOM tubing, with sturdy rod ends. The upper/center 3rd link will be .25" wall DOM tubing with heavy duty rod ends (this link will be absorbing all of the torque).
Let me know what everyone thinks so far -- I could really use some feedback. Overkill on that 3rd link tubing wall sizing ??
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drflex
11-21-2011, 04:18 PM
looks like your well on your way....
austin552
11-21-2011, 05:05 PM
Heavy Duty! Can't wait to see where this goes...
looks like your well on your way....
Heavy Duty! Can't wait to see where this goes...
Thanks guys ... it always feels good to make progress .. although everytime I work on something, update my lists or move forward I find something else I want to add in, tweak or fabricate.
So am I really moving forward?? :rolleyes:
Hope everyone's Thanksgiving was nice.... A couple more items arrived...mainly the link brackets and rod ends. The lower link brackets have 3 hole settings for dialing in anti-squat and are a 10 degree offset so I can push them outward just a bit -- primarily for more stability.
The rod ends are hardcore too ... chromoly all around. Since there's only one 3rd link (the upper one), as I know I keep pointing out, I went a little extra heavy duty on it. This really may be overkill though. I snapped a pic of one next to a $5 bill ... yikes...
I should be doing arm lengths and tab placement mockups tomorrow -- with any luck I'll have this car back on the ground within 2 weeks :)
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LowFast
11-27-2011, 12:51 PM
^ Hah that thing must weigh about 8 lbs!
^ Hah that thing must weigh about 8 lbs!
Believe it or not, for the massive thing that it is, it's fairly light. I'd say around 4 pounds or so. haha -- Not thrilled about adding un-sprung weight, but the strength will make up for it :)
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holy Heim Joint batman!!
holy Heim Joint batman!!
Yea I'm scared :)
bhcustomdesigns
11-27-2011, 08:10 PM
Look at it this way at least you can rest easy knowing that the 3 link is not going to brake.That thing is going to be bullet proof :machine:
preston
11-28-2011, 08:44 AM
I could be wrong, but I actually think the 3 link sees a little less load than you think. Remember it is being pulled in tension when the pinion tries to rotate at the same time it is "pushing" the chassis forward. To a certain extent these forces are cancelling each other. I believe it actually sees 1/2 the load of one of the lower links, but can't quite remember my theory. Either way .25" wall tubing is total overkill.
Look at it this way at least you can rest easy knowing that the 3 link is not going to brake.That thing is going to be bullet proof :machine:
Yup..bomb proof...
I could be wrong, but I actually think the 3 link sees a little less load than you think. Remember it is being pulled in tension when the pinion tries to rotate at the same time it is "pushing" the chassis forward. To a certain extent these forces are cancelling each other. I believe it actually sees 1/2 the load of one of the lower links, but can't quite remember my theory. Either way .25" wall tubing is total overkill.
I actually never thought of it as "cancelling itself out" with the chassis push forces to be honest ... good point. My theory or thoughts behind such a beefy 3rd upper link, is that it would see much of the same forces that the lowers would see so it should be double the thickness as it's all alone. Seeing the .25" wall DOM next to the .125 wall DOM makes me feel silly though -- cause it's massive.
The rod ends & components confirm the silliness, as they are just huge. I agree with your statement of total overkill...at least I know it's strong enough.
Didn't get much accomplished today.. was really just plotting my moves for this week and getting a few things for the new tig welder. More updates soon.
Thanks for the feedback everyone...much appreciated and is keeping me motivated.
Bryce
11-28-2011, 01:18 PM
What size bolt are you using in the 3rd link?
What size bolt are you using in the 3rd link?
3/4" ... yup, overkill...
The lower links are 5/8"
Most of the brackets/tabs are either 1/4" thick or 3/8" thick
stillridin
11-28-2011, 04:59 PM
What rims are you going with? How did you know what width your rear had to be? Are you getting the rims made to fit your rear? B/S, O/S? Just curious. How much rw horse power are you striving for. I know, I know lots of questions.:seizure: I'm sick,and I'm on a NyQuil high.
cencalc6
11-28-2011, 05:45 PM
Very Nice
What rims are you going with? How did you know what width your rear had to be? Are you getting the rims made to fit your rear? B/S, O/S? Just curious. How much rw horse power are you striving for. I know, I know lots of questions.:seizure: I'm sick,and I'm on a NyQuil high.
Haha no worries on the Q's... I'm going with Forgestar F14 19x12 +36mm offset (which I believe translates to around 7.9" backspace -- I don't have the numbers in front of me). I used these measurements (and a lot of others taken 10 times over) to order the correct width rear. The target RWHP is 1000, but that will depend on how far I choose to have my tuner push the motor when dyno day comes along (still a whiles away). The car would be dialed back for street driving anyhow.
Very Nice
Thanks....still a long way to go
Nothing crazy with the updates -- been a busy week at the shop.
I spent time last Monday measuring and re-measuring for the link lengths as well as bracket positions. Then I spent time this week TIG'n everything up. I'm not the prettiest tig-welder, but everything is solidly welded! Everything still needs to be sanded & smoothed out before paint or powder coating.
The lower links still have front and back support sections I have to weld on -- I am setting those up tomorrow as I plan to connect the coilovers directly to the lower link brackets.
The upper link (that big ass one) actually looks more in proportion, now that it's mounted to the rear housing. :)
More updates tomorrow hopefully :cheers:
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67TXStang
12-23-2011, 06:20 AM
That rod end is huge! Where did you purchase the rod ends and the link brackets?
I'm going to take care of the rear suspension in my '67 Mustang next. I'll be interested to see how yours comes together.
That rod end is huge! Where did you purchase the rod ends and the link brackets?
I'm going to take care of the rear suspension in my '67 Mustang next. I'll be interested to see how yours comes together.
Yea it's crazy. I got them from RuffStuffSpecialties.com -- mostly 4x4 stuff, but I wanted stuff that was bomb-proof -- I definitely got it. Their pricing is reasonable and they have a good selection. I still cut and re-positioned some of the parts I got from them, but that's what fabbing is all about.
I got my watts link in this week and mocked up all the tabs/brackets for that. The holidays put a bit of a strain on the car time -- so hopefully in the next couple weeks I'll have everything welded, coated and installed on the car so it can roll around. :)
Finally making some progress. Lots of items arrived this past week...including the rims :)
Thought I would post up a couple quick pics of the rear rims. More updates coming soon ... I've finally got all I need to roll the car around now -- just have to assemble it.
Forgestar F14 19x12 +36 Piano Gloss Black
Last Pic shows the rim next to my size 13 shoe...I keep forgetting how large these things are...then I look over at 'em...haha
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LowFast
01-03-2012, 06:13 PM
How is the quality of the finish of the Forgestars? I know they had some problems awhile back on finish constiency.
How is the quality of the finish of the Forgestars? I know they had some problems awhile back on finish constiency.
Honestly, it's really great. I'd rate them at 9.5 out of 10. No blems, pits, scratches, dips, scuffs or anything of the sort. For the price and really fast turn around I got (epic thanks to Paul @ Howey Industries) I'm definitely happy. The fronts should be on order by next month once I measure them up.
I hope to have some pictures up with them on the car and the car on the ground by next week...I hope...
LI Pro
01-04-2012, 05:18 PM
where on the Island are you?
where on the Island are you?
Huntington :)
69projectKAOS
01-05-2012, 03:08 PM
wow! loving the wheels for sure!! i was looking into a set of concaves as well. i would love to see some pics of them mounted . my car is under construction once again, i hope we can meet up at a show so i can see it in person this summer-Dom
wow! loving the wheels for sure!! i was looking into a set of concaves as well. i would love to see some pics of them mounted . my car is under construction once again, i hope we can meet up at a show so i can see it in person this summer-Dom
Thanks. They really are great. A nice amount of concave without being crazy. I'm having tires mounted tomorrow so I'll try to snap some pictures. I have all the rear end components nearly complete too -- I just have to find time to finish a couple things and install everything. Pics and updates will follow :)
Okie.... scuffed and coated all of the raw metal in the rear -- rails, brackets & exposed areas today. I laid down a black encapsulator/etch and then black epoxy primed. I of course still have all the tin work to add -- but this keeps things from getting super rusty and making double the work down the road trying to bend/flex and get into the corners and hard to reach spots with tins installed.
Tires are mounted on the rims....they look sweet. I did a quick mockup with one side at approximate ride height. I must say, I think I achieved that "modern muscle" look with these. Aggressive, but not over the top and clean/classy -- as muscle should be.
I'll be assembling the rear & 3-links this week for an installation and roll around on the ground next week :)
What do you guys all think ?
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Need some opinions here...when I build the "inner structure" for quarter panel support...should I push the bottoms out a couple inches for a bit of a flair? Bottom pic is with me pulling the quarter out about 2 inches...
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blazer4corners
01-09-2012, 05:39 PM
guess it depends on where the front of the wheelwell lines up on the tire
guess it depends on where the front of the wheelwell lines up on the tire
True...I'll have to snap more pics when the time comes to make a decision. I can pull the front out around an inch as well...hmm
femurphy77
01-16-2012, 06:20 PM
'Flame I was wondering what your plans are for front tire and wheel sizes? I recently purchased, no stole, a '67 notchback that the guy had replaced the entire front sheetmetal, firewall forward, installed an alston backhalf setup and full subframes with x-bracing before he ran out of cash. I'm wanting to go with at least a 10" wide wheel on front and do the 345/35 rear tires like you have chosen.
Your project mirrors (so far) what I have in mind for mine but am wondering if you've given front tire sizes any consideration yet.
'Flame I was wondering what your plans are for front tire and wheel sizes? I recently purchased, no stole, a '67 notchback that the guy had replaced the entire front sheetmetal, firewall forward, installed an alston backhalf setup and full subframes with x-bracing before he ran out of cash. I'm wanting to go with at least a 10" wide wheel on front and do the 345/35 rear tires like you have chosen.
Your project mirrors (so far) what I have in mind for mine but am wondering if you've given front tire sizes any consideration yet.
My goal for front tires is in the 285 range or so. I need something so the 345's don't push my steering too much and make controlling the car through turns an issue.
I would also like to get a 10" wide wheel up front. It's doable, but my issue comes in with offset. The Forgstar's (while they have a variety of ranges) -- are a little more positive in the offset for front rims than I would like.
I haven't quite figured out how (I just have to dig up some more time)-- but whether it be a spacer with longer studs or something of the sort -- I'll get some beefy tires up front as well.
I actually assembled the rear in the car today and got it back on the ground! All of my measurements were dead on with the exception of the watt's link connectors (the outer links that attach to the rear housing). I just have to space them farther back from the rear center line and add side braces.
I have pics...I'm just shot from the 6+ hours in freezing windy conditions working on this thing...I'll try to post tomorrow/Wed :)
Alright -- pics as promised Just a few from my phone...
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Crestronwizard
01-19-2012, 07:23 AM
I assume you're not going to run a back seat. I got 295's on mine and after a substantial amount of modification to the outer wheel well they fit. I have a 66 though. Your cars lookin great! Keep the pics flowing
I assume you're not going to run a back seat. I got 295's on mine and after a substantial amount of modification to the outer wheel well they fit. I have a 66 though. Your cars lookin great! Keep the pics flowing
Back seat free for me. I'll likely set things up with sheet metal and removable access panels for adjustments. I'll sound proof them (or layer them as best I can) and keep clean/neat angles. Not much use for rear seats :)
ryeguy2006a
01-19-2012, 10:58 AM
Love the rims. They look a lot like the new 2013 GT500 Rims.
67cougnut
01-19-2012, 11:08 AM
everyones thinking it, I'm just sayin it- remove the tasmanian devil mudflaps
other than that it looks like you have a solid plan and will have a great car
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67cougnut
01-19-2012, 11:14 AM
great job so far!
Love the rims. They look a lot like the new 2013 GT500 Rims.
Thanks...that's basically the theme I was going for with them "modern muscle"
great job so far!
Thanks! Workin on plans to button up the rear with tweaks and adjustments and then move onto the cage, tunnel and front end :)
stillridin
02-25-2012, 04:34 PM
It's coming together nicely. Can't wait to see what your going to do with the fronts (rims tires) Hopfully I can steal some ideas for mine.:fingersx:
68rustang
02-25-2012, 06:46 PM
Where did you get the rear frame rails? I didn't see it if you already posted it.
bhcustomdesigns
02-25-2012, 07:12 PM
Car is looking great!! :twothumbs
It's coming together nicely. Can't wait to see what your going to do with the fronts (rims tires) Hopfully I can steal some ideas for mine.:fingersx:
Thanks. The front rims will be the same style as the rears. Only in an 18x10 instead of a 19x12. I'll likely be installing extended studs in the front knuckles and running a 1" spacer to keep them pushed out. My goal is a 285 tire or so at this point. I just have to toss a fender back on the car for measurements. I'll be sure to post pics :)
Where did you get the rear frame rails? I didn't see it if you already posted it.
http://autoweldchassis.com/spec.ivnu Great pricing on the exact dimensions set (only they are parallel instead of canted out like the OEM rails). You can also send them custom build-to specs and they will make you rails.
Car is looking great!! :twothumbs
Thanks -- I have better pics from last week with my SLR, my computer crashed though and I've been living on a netbook lately. Gotta fix that and I'll post more up with the gears installed.
austin552
09-21-2012, 03:30 AM
Been a while.... What's happening with the 68?
Been a while.... What's happening with the 68?
Sorry I never saw this -- just goes to show how out of it I've been on this car.
I've had a lot going on the past 6 months with the shop and such -- it's kept me from really diggin' in on the Mustang. The cage is 99% done -- I just have to go back over all the welds and make sure they are set to go -- that's really about it. No pics of that update unfortunately -- gotta work on that.
I did bring back some winter projects to work on while the garage is freezing :( -- namely the gauges and some trim pieces.
Let me know what everyone thinks -- custom flat black paint with gunmetal metallic bezels. All Autometer Phantom gauges (I have more for the center console too) with custom Ford Blue vinyl decals I cut :)
Happy New Year's Everyone!
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blade
02-20-2013, 02:00 PM
Cool Project! Have you had any time to work on it?
I_make_oil
03-24-2014, 08:46 AM
Whatever happen to this car? Looked like a nice project.
femurphy77
03-25-2014, 11:14 AM
I'm guessing finished by now and too busy driving it and having fun to show us the final product. I'm jealous!!
ivanster
03-25-2014, 03:26 PM
That car is really nice
19,69camaro
03-26-2014, 08:19 AM
I guess there is always the fourth try....
charliezrods
10-22-2014, 11:44 PM
LOL yes I would like to know also
Cool Project! Have you had any time to work on it?
Whatever happen to this car? Looked like a nice project.
I'm guessing finished by now and too busy driving it and having fun to show us the final product. I'm jealous!!
That car is really nice
I guess there is always the fourth try....
LOL yes I would like to know also
Long overdue reply - sorry for a massive time lapse guys. A lot's changed since my last posts and updates. The car is in hibernation at the moment.... Originally from Long Island NY, I recently up-and-moved to Colorado - the car has yet to follow (in storage). It's been a total change, I drove out here as well (a long 3 day haul). While I won't ramble on with personal stories, pending how some business plans work out this year I really hope to transport the project out here to work on.
I'll update in the next couple days with where I left off mid-summer (just before packing up and moving out here). I made some decent progress in the first half of 2014...engine bay is cut and prepped, AJE complete front end is in (HUGE improvement) and most of the rear tins are done and sealed.... and it's onto some other phases.
More soon ;) ;)
Bossed
02-16-2015, 08:50 AM
Man, I'm glad to hear you're still moving forward, hope you have good luck getting the car moved so you can work on it!!
Man, I'm glad to hear you're still moving forward, hope you have good luck getting the car moved so you can work on it!!
Thanks. I got to a good stopping point when I left NY - so I'm confident picking it back up (whenever I get it out here) will be straight forward. I wish I snapped more pics, but between packing and planning the drive I neglected to do so. I'll see if I can dig up more than what's below.
The bay notch went great - much more straight forward than I thought it would be. There's a TON of room in there now - and while a 5.0 Coyote motor still looks tempting - I'll likely stick with the 351W setup (hopefully stroked to 408) with a clean EFI setup.
The new rack along with the AJE K-member and suspension is SO clean and solid. No guesswork, no messing around - everything bolted together nicely and fits really well in the vehicle. The geometry looks great as well.
The back tins all went in pretty well also - I have to come up with a "backseat" option (or mainly some sort of finished look as the back seats NO longer work in the vehicle - which I'm fine with. The same goes for a trunk lid setup. The rear tubs are so large (to accommodate the 345mm tires) I have to move the hinges inward and come up with a functioning piston configuration. Any thoughts ?
More soon hopefully... :)
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