Getting older or just more mature?

[duckmanjbr]

Well I'm new to the site and new to the pro-touring scene but I've been wrenching for quite a few years and have a few projects under my belt. To introduce myself and how I got here I should start from the beginning so here we go... This was my baby for the past few years and has treated me VERY well. She was a 98 that I picked up for less than $3k and had worked her over pretty good inside and out. She had a LS6 and ran 13.2's steady. I just loved rolling up next to a stock mustang and walking away! Ah the old days.... :)

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Someone once said behind every good man there is his woman and some how that stupid saying suck and has gone down in history. I think whoever started that should have been shot cause behind me is the person responsible for the unneeded spending of thousands of dollars over the years of my life and I'm sure being as there is now a teenage daughter driving in the house the money will just keep flowing! Anyway, after a great life and treating me well the poor old truck meet her end with my girlfriend behind the wheel. To make things worse I saw it all happen from another car. Guess you could say adding insult to injury? LOL Here's what was left...

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98's don't have much insurance value and even less when they're not stock so it got totaled and I moved on(after stripping it of course). I guess at some point the cost of building the car is less important to you as the fun it was when it's all complete and think I've hit the realization over the past few years so I decided to jump in head first to a project that I could love even after it's wrecked and something I could actually sell for some good money if that day ever came. So out of the ashes of the ole beloved truck came the new baby to the family! Nov2010

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As you can see it's pretty well stripped clean and although I've never done a bones up build I've done a lot of tearing down to that point and back up so I can't imagine it to be a whole lot different. It's also my 1st 68 so I'm really looking forward to it. Obviously it was bought as a project and not something I'll be driving around in the next few months so I have plenty of time to plan it out and get the right parts. So far after xmas I've knocked a few big things off the list and post them here next. I'll keep adding pics as the project gets moving along and if any build veterans want to point out any mistakes you're more than welcome. I'm never to proud to take some lessons!

[THE TECH]

Welcome to the site!

[duckmanjbr]

As promised here is where it stands today. I wasn't all up on taking pics to start so I'm in catch up mode now. 12 hours after getting the car I jumped in and stripped off the front clip. I was mainly looking to see what I had to work with. It had a little rust but nothing really bad and something I'll work with in time. I decide to start from the ground up and yanked the old subframe. I went GW for the entire front end although I didn't take pics in the process here is how it stands now.

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This has been on the car since early Jan11 and you can already see the love of the gulf coast on the rotors. As I said, I replaced the whole front sub, steering, swaybar, coilovers, everything! So if anyone is looking for a complete stock clip w/ discs let me know!

Next came the rear end and after years of dealing with a leaf rear end and cal-traks(which worked great btw) I decided to go a different route and have something a little more tunable for my driving style. Now keep in mind this is not going to be only a track car. I plan on driving this a lot so I don't want to go all out crazy w/ the build and I'm trying to stay in a budget but I do need to perform to my standards so as you look through the pics don't be surprised if you see one component swap that is over the top and the next is just basic. I'm sure I'll be upgrading in time or as I need it down the road. Case in point, I decided to go the 4-link route but not do the mini-tubs. I'll stick w/ the 275's on the back. I'm kind of partial to the balanced look on all four corners and I don't plan on going over the top under the hood so 275's should be fine.

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My next big buy is rear Wilwoods, third member and wheels/tires. Gotta love tax season! That should finish off the rolling chassis for now and allow me to start working body issues. I can already tell wheels are going to be fun. From what I've read through other posts 275/18's will fit but they need to be really exact on the measurements so hopefully I'll get it right the 1st time! If anyone is running a non mini-tubed Ford 9 rear with 18's all around I'd love to hear specs on the wheels you're running. Also, any reasonably priced source of 5 or 6 spoke rims are always welcome... :)

[Ron.in.SoCal]

Jason Jason Jason! Welcome Brother! Nice project you got there....:)

Team PT - meet Jason. Great guy, smart and has a good plan going on. Jason is also a vet of our great country so lets show him some love.

As far as rear wheels - there are some experts here (Prodigy, PTS, Drivers) that know this cold and will chime in here, but depending on your rear end width you can run 18x9.5's, 5.5" BS on a 275 tire. Check fitment and roll them lips if need be.

Call me anytime I can help Sir. Oh, and post more pics!

[duckmanjbr]

Hey Ron! I thought this might be easier than emailing photos! :) Thanks for the love and I'll keep posting as parts come in and get put on. I have some traveling to do next month (I know you know that feeling) so I don't see any real install time for a bit but believe me there will be parts ordering!!

[Ron.in.SoCal]

Ok man, but you're on the clock now...:spank2:

[duckmanjbr]

Well I tackled the rear-end yesterday. I ended up going w/ a 4.10, 1330, detroit locker set in the rear and the Wilwoods for stopping power. I'm still working a bit on the parking cable setup but I have a pretty good plan for moving forward!

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With everything mocked up I can see that I'll need to do something to keep the p/b cables away from the wheels but until I get the wheels I don't know exact placement so I'll have to hold off on that. As for the cable assemble, after reading about everyones dislike of the hold strength on the lokar setup I wanted to try and stick with the stock setup as much as possible. I ran all factory cables and I am going to try and adapt the rear cables to the Wilwoods. I think I can do this pretty easily with out pulling my hair out to much. By doing a little cut and grinding I was able to use the same factory cable clamps used forward on the car and locked the rear cables in place to the Wilwood brackets. All I have to do now is adjust cable length to the correct size and attach the cable itself to the p/b assembly. This is the only spot I have to stop and think about for a bit. I can think of a few ways but a little trial and error will probably come to play.

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[Z06vet]

I'm running a moser rear with ford ends. I used the the lokar T-bird parking brake kit with my C5 rear brakes. I kept the factory parking brake pedal assembly and front cable along with the oem curved metal channel that the rear cable goes thru. I used the lokar cables and looped them together with the included junction block. Just slipped it in the curved metal channel and adjusted. Holds very well. Maybe I can catch at cruisin the coast this year..
Scott

[duckmanjbr]

Scott, We'll have to stay in touch. I'm out your way a few times a year for work and of course I'll be around for crusin the coast this year! I'm 100% sure I won't be in the car this year but I'm hoping by next year it'll be drivable. Body work alone is gonna be a big part/most of my buget this year and thats before I ever get it started! LOL

[duckmanjbr]

Just a quick update on the car. The Summer has been really busy so the Camaro bank account is growing for the next needed part but nothing new has been bolted on. Wheels are right around the corner but I have two birthdays and xmas coming so I think January will be my next big spending spree! :) I'll keep everyone updated!

[AUS.NOVA]

Nice, welcome to the site. Great story. Keep the pics coming

[duckmanjbr]

While I'm waiting on saving for an expensive set of wheels I figured I could tackle my one bad rust spot on the body. Being an easily replaceable part I just drilled out the old and bought the replacement. I just need to weld it in and seal it off and I'll be good. Any old experts have any advice for a newbie sheet metal guy?

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All removed, ready to clean up and weld on the new cowl panel. I was thinking of hitting it with some POR-15 to make sure the surface rust doesn't get any worse. Thoughts?


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[duckmanjbr]

With the little stuff replaced I decided to take the next big dive! Planning on the car going into the paint shop in a week so I should have some good pics up in the next few weeks....

[duckmanjbr]

Wheels are in and bolted up so it must be time to get it rolling to the body shop! Their not exactly what I wanted but at 1/4 of the price I don't think I'll have much room to complain. I'll role these for a bit until it's at least running and gets a few miles on it. I just can't see spending 4-5K on wheels to have it sit in the garage for another year or two when I can spend that money elsewhere and get it on the road faster.... I don't think I'll be able to have that much spending control when it comes to the body work! LOL

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[SOM1969]

very nice project!

[Ron.in.SoCal]

Nice Jason. The Coys will come later. Get the body work done...:)

[duckmanjbr]

Thats what I keep telling myself Ron..... :) I'm getting itchy to get thing done so I NEED to get it into the bodyshop. Once thats out of the way everything else is down hill! I'm sure it'll be a long hill but down hill non-the-less.....

[Ron.in.SoCal]

^ Ha, I'm finding out that hill is a loooong run after body and paint, even w a boatload of parts! Keep posting Jason...:)

[duckmanjbr]

Some last minute updates.... Threw some wheels on to get it to the body shop..

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[duckmanjbr]

Body shop means I needed some mirrors so after hours of searching threw the forums and a few posts I decided on the C6 mirrors. I've heard mixed reviews but once they're on I have to say they look GREAT! I thought they might be a little big or not match the body lines but after seeing them on that's not the case! I'm completely happy so they're getting painted!! :D

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Dropped the car off this morning at the shop so the next pictures should be primed and painted shots!!

[ajg87]

Looking forward to the pics!

[solarguy09]

Me too....Good job digging right in and tackling it.....

[duckmanjbr]

Stopped in today to check on the progress of the car. It's not going to bad but I love how things come out to show their face when all the paint is stripped off! I guess for 40+ years old she's not that bad.... A little extra love and she should be looking great!


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[duckmanjbr]

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[duckmanjbr]

Almost paint time! I need a few more finishing touches and then paint! I'm a little A.D.D. when it comes to some of this stuff so the little things now are a big deal to me. I guess most people would just call it picky...

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[SparkyRnD]

you should ask a mod to move this over to the Project Updates section, will get much more traffic there. Looks like a cool build

[duckmanjbr]

Sparky, I'm not sure how to even do that.... :)

[Ron.in.SoCal]

Almost paint time! I need a few more finishing touches and then paint! I'm a little A.D.D. when it comes to some of this stuff so the little things now are a big deal to me. I guess most people would just call it picky...

Or more mature...:)


Sparky, I'm not sure how to even do that.... :)

Here you go Jason -

https://www.pro-touring.com/forumdisplay.php?14-Forum-Requests-Feedback-and-FAQ

[SparkyRnD]

on the main forum page is a section titled Forum Requests, Feedback and FAQ. Post in there that you want this thread moved (give them this section and title of your thread) and ask them to move it to the Project Updates thread. They can handle it from there. Or, you can also PM any of the mods and they can help.

[66larkgs]

great build , any ideas on interior??

[duckmanjbr]

Interior is about the last thing on my mind right now. Once I get seats and it's drivable I think the interior will fall even farther down the list. :) Right now all I know is that I want it simple w/ power everything. I like the sleek simple look w/out a big center console but I'm to lazy not to have my power windows and locks. Color will be black. Thats about as far as my brain has wondered down the interior thoughts!

[duckmanjbr]

Well it's been a few months and things in the paint shop seem to move at a snails pace but here is a quick tease of the color I picked.

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[craigs73]

looking good......... whens it come home??? :machine:

[duckmanjbr]

with a lot of hope.... next month? lol

[Ron.in.SoCal]

Our car looks great Jason :lol:

Congrats man. She sure has come a long way! What color is that? Sorry, hard to tell...

[Ron.in.SoCal]

Bump for updates :cheers:

[duckmanjbr]

Quick update for everyone... Finally got the car back from paint. It still has a few spots that aren't 100% but I wasnt going for perfection so I'm ok with what's left. I've been collecting motor parts for the past few months so I guess now I can start putting the power plant together!!
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[duckmanjbr]

I've been a little busy the last few weeks. I got the car back from paint and I've been under it just about ever spare minute since! The brakes are in and bled, I got the C6 mirrors on, fuel tank, pump and all lines are in and looking sharp and I spent this past weekend sealing up the intside and spraying Lizard skin throughout. Things really start coming together quick when you're motivated!! Motor should be this weekend!




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[duckmanjbr]

Got the wiring all under control in the last two weeks. Took a little longer than I expected but I had to stop and order some parts I didn't expect. At least Summit has fast shipping! lol With the wiring all in and done I even had some time to do a lights test and just sit and smile for an hour or so.....

Two things:
1st: I know it looks like a Mustang w/ the lights but I built this car to drive and I like to see at night so between a set of HIDs and a nice set of Hellas I know I'll be able to see at night!

2nd: I gotta figure out kind of reverse light setup seeing as I did the RS tails and didn't want the factory RS reverse lights. The jury is still out for ideas on this one. I know I need something but I keep putting off thinking about it until I'm ready to leave the garage!



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[duckmanjbr]

I went a little over board w/ motor parts and my budget. Lets just call it double but at least I know I'll have some fun when driving! :) ARP this, Comp that and Eagle stuff always equals $$!

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[duckmanjbr]

Had some serious mount issues but I got that all worked out and the motor is finally resting at home. Maybe it’s just my luck but the S&P adapters I have didn’t fit 100% w/ the small block towers and the Dynatech headers were rubbing on the short & wide mounts. A little grinding and a few minutes of welding and all is golden now!


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[blade]

Nice work. It is starting to look like a car again :). I bet you can't wait to have it running.

[CodexGigas]

Nice Build. Love the Color of the Camaro.

[duckmanjbr]

Under the hood is completely done I think. I've put a few miles on it and no problems yet. Unless I find something major she runs good and doesn't have any leaks so I'm calling it done. Got an appointment for Tues for exhaust and then I can start fine tuning. Still nothing for interior but I'm gonna let it be for a bit.

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