Why aren't there more Pro-Touring Mustangs??

[Chad-1stGen]

Yeah so like many my first love is the first generation Camaro.

But I love first generation Mustangs too!! I see some of them represented in super high end builds but there they are few and far between on this forum. At the recent RTTC on Sunday I only saw two first gen Mustangs.

They made a hell of a lot more Mustangs than Camaros. What gives? I guess Steilow's builds and Big Red only inspired Camaro fans lol?

Is it because Mustang front ends are harder to make perform (no idea on if that's true, just know the strut tower set up isn't real well liked). Harder to fit big motors?

I haven't figured out if its a temporary bug or not but lately I've found myself wanting to dabble with a 65-66 Mustang. Its soooo much harder to find good information on those cars than Camaros.

Are all the PT mustangs hiding on a Ford site?

PS. what are the best Mustang sites for first gen Mustang info?

PPS. Feel free to show off your first gen PT Mustangs in this thread with pics ha ha.

[Chad-1stGen]

Damn love that fastback. Soooo clean!

[Bryce]

current popularity of the camaro.

Ease of camaro suspension mods. And more aftermarket choices.

LS motors

Tire size without doing any mods

All the mustangs are being used in vintage racing. Check out corner-carvers for mustang builds.

Most have seen my falcon, even rarer than a mustang.

[Rod]

I was wondering the same thing Chad, we could of had a few more Stangs show up at RTTC

[Six_Shooter]

Expect one more (a '65) to be PT'd in the next few years. ;)

[6spdcamaro]

From what I have experienced the mustangs are a great platform. One huge advantage they have is their weight. My dad's weighs 2940 with a full tank, and has a 50%/50% f/r split with the driver. They do have a limited tire size, and it's a little difficult to work in the engine bay. But considering the other advantages I still don't know why there aren't more of them out there. They have great aftermarket support, and with relatively little work they can perform pretty well.

Here is my dads car at last years RTTH. Since this picture we have put a new maier racing front 1 1/8" sway bar on the front, and added a maier 5/8" splined adjustable bar for the rear.

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[65 Fastback]

There are plenty of "Restomod" Mustangs out there. I would like to see more Mustangs on here too, but I think most hang out at the Mustang boards, StangFix, VMF, StangNet, etc..

Here's mine.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2007/07/P1010001-1.jpg

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https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/12/F389-1.jpg

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[Steve1968LS2]

Mainly lack of parts choices... but that's going to change. I know DSE is working on stuff and I was a Global West and they have some way cool stuff being developed..

Mustang owners rejoice!!!!

[Rick K]

the marriage of these two cars into one 67 fastback will be posted in a build thread soon.First I need to finish off a 90 mustang coupe build

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[Flagmissed]

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These are my two projects. It took me 8 years to build the Mustang and I am guessing that I will get the Camaro done in two. In my opinion the Chevy is just easier to find and get parts for. The fastback is my first love but I am excited about all of the possibilities that this Camaro has.

[NOT A TA]

I agree, easier to build the F bodies. I was mid project on my 66 coupe in 1992 when I bought my 70 Firebird and built it instead, then the 81 Malibu, then the 67 RS SS Conv. Camaro, then the 67 Nova SS, then the 86 911,......I keep saying I'll get back to the Mustang eventually..... Took pics of it this week! but sadly thats it.

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[Chad-1stGen]

From what I have experienced the mustangs are a great platform. One huge advantage they have is their weight. My dad's weighs 2940 with a full tank, and has a 50%/50% f/r split with the driver. They do have a limited tire size, and it's a little difficult to work in the engine bay. But considering the other advantages I still don't know why there aren't more of them out there. They have great aftermarket support, and with relatively little work they can perform pretty well.

Here is my dads car at last years RTTH. Since this picture we have put a new maier racing front 1 1/8" sway bar on the front, and added a maier 5/8" splined adjustable bar for the rear.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/03/IMG_0067-1.jpg

That is an awesome shot! That mustang looks beautiful but also super mean and nasty in that shot. Love it.

So many awesome Mustangs in this thread. Hope we see more builds on this site of em. I keep perusing craigslist for a new project lol. Not that I really need one...

[cobragt]

My brother has autocrossed a 66 Mustang for years. And I would be building my 69 Mach if I had the money. But I need to work on the car that is running so I'm working on my 78 Cobra, talk about hard to find parts! And I'm still not convinced that I can get it to handle as well as my 87 GT, but it will be fun trying.

[79-TA]

My theory, and it's only a theory, has been this. Mustangs are much more common than Camaros at your typical road course event and have more of a presence in professional racing. The corner carving demographic of Mustang owners were more likely to turn to pre-existing events to run their cars. The track element of pro-touring is then not as impressive to Mustang owners who are into that sort of thing.

Obviously, there are a ton of exceptions that are not described by that and both the Camaro and Mustang have been road raced since they first came out.

Here's a picture from the first real NASA trackday I attended back in '09. Even with the Camaros in AI, CMC, and CMC2, the Camaros at the event could be counted on one hand. Mustangs on the other hand were very well represented, though there were no early examples signed up to run. How does running newer Mustangs relate to fewer PT-ed older Mustangs? Well another theory, a Mustang owner might have a dedicated track car and an old Mustang just to cruise around in. I'm not sure how many people that really applies to though.

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I must ask the question, why are there not more Camaros at ordinary track events? Thankfully, the good members of this site do their part to correct that, but it is odd to me that more Camaros (of any vintage) aren't raced.

[jeff s]

I know of a number of Mustangs under construction with our chassis under them.
We've got a 69 Mustang in process at the shop now.
Schwartz full chassis, 2011 5.0L Coyote engine, with supercharger not yet installed.
Here's a link:
http://www.schwartzperformance.com/projects.aspx?projectid=36

[Ron.in.SoCal]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WfHnj1V_ks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH3IPzzk-Ro

Any questions?

[Six_Shooter]

Awesome!

I do have one question...

Can I have a ride? :D haha

[L & H Kustoms]

Here's the 70 Fastback I built for a local customer.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/08/16310835-1.jpg
Here's the build thread
https://www.pro-touring.com/showthread.php?71577-1970-Mustang-Fastback&highlight=
It's coming in this next week to install AFD 4V heads and AFD intake. I am trying to talk my customer into taking it down to the new RRTC event that gonna be in August.

[Nothingface5384]

I'm convincing my brother to make his 72 maverick pro-touring, just got the 302 in and getting 17s...just need to save up for the rrs r&p along with their stut-mount style coil-over kit!
If I ever do a ford it'll be a 70-71 torino...but i'd probably do a 74 apollo or basterdized a 70ish duster/dart with a buick engine ha
i'll post pics of the mav with 17s once we deicded if we can go 17x8s with no ill effects and ofcouse if you guys dont mind

[Ron S]

I think I would have to disagree. The Camaro's got almost over covered, causing some magazines to boycot them. In my opinion the Mustangs could meet that same fate, lets face it early Mustangs, and Camaros had the largest production numbers of any Muscle cars ever built.

I do think the Camaro is a little easier to modify though, with the bolt in subframe. So the suspension manufactures have produced some really cool stuff for them, and people have just bought it up.

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[tazzz25906112]

That car still slays me Ron,,, hope to see you soon bud.

[DarkBuddha]

They're out there... but some of us have yet to be done enough to make our presence known. I've been working on mine since before fancy tubular suspension and rack&pinion was even a consideration, or even a viable possibility. Mine is still rocking PST bushings, Global West negative wedge kit, Addco sway bars, etc. In the meantime it awaits my time to finish it:

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[Chad-1stGen]

I think I would have to disagree. The Camaro's got almost over covered, causing some magazines to boycot them. In my opinion the Mustangs could meet that same fate, lets face it early Mustangs, and Camaros had the largest production numbers of any Muscle cars ever built.

I do think the Camaro is a little easier to modify though, with the bolt in subframe. So the suspension manufactures have produced some really cool stuff them, and people have just bought it up.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/09/1026441671_xPMYmL-1.jpg


That car still slays me Ron,,, hope to see you soon bud.


Yes Ron, your car is probably my favorite first gen Mustang :) It looks so damn nice sitting still and knowing that you saved a rusted out shell and what you accomplished with $5K and LOTS of talent was amazing. Since then you have only improved it.

Its funny, since I've started researching mustangs I've seen your car everywhere! Ive tried to find out info on LS motors into 65-66 stangs and so many of those threads devolve into Ford purists frothing at the mouth but then someone posts your car and everyone ooo's and ahhhs ha ha.

[Chad-1stGen]

My theory, and it's only a theory, has been this. Mustangs are much more common than Camaros at your typical road course event and have more of a presence in professional racing. The corner carving demographic of Mustang owners were more likely to turn to pre-existing events to run their cars. The track element of pro-touring is then not as impressive to Mustang owners who are into that sort of thing.

Obviously, there are a ton of exceptions that are not described by that and both the Camaro and Mustang have been road raced since they first came out.

Here's a picture from the first real NASA trackday I attended back in '09. Even with the Camaros in AI, CMC, and CMC2, the Camaros at the event could be counted on one hand. Mustangs on the other hand were very well represented, though there were no early examples signed up to run. How does running newer Mustangs relate to fewer PT-ed older Mustangs? Well another theory, a Mustang owner might have a dedicated track car and an old Mustang just to cruise around in. I'm not sure how many people that really applies to though.

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I must ask the question, why are there not more Camaros at ordinary track events? Thankfully, the good members of this site do their part to correct that, but it is odd to me that more Camaros (of any vintage) aren't raced.

You know Bret, I think your theory has a lot of merit. Since lurking around a few different Ford websites I've noticed there is a whole heck of a lot more posting about Track days and vintage racing than you ever see on this site. I think the hardcore Mustang track guys have probably been doing their thing long before Pro-Touring got momentum and are too busy racing to notice lol.

This is more hardcore than most guys on this site are with respect to track days, but wow this Mustang is awesome!!! Its apparently on oldschool vintage bias ply race tires too. Too bad the video cut off when it did and didn't last about 5 more seconds :)

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[gEtyOpAPiOn]

I think the main thing has to be the lsx platform so many choices ,theres an ls1 in every flavor just like ice cream lol

[cobragt]

You know Bret, I think your theory has a lot of merit. Since lurking around a few different Ford websites I've noticed there is a whole heck of a lot more posting about Track days and vintage racing than you ever see on this site. I think the hardcore Mustang track guys have probably been doing their thing long before Pro-Touring got momentum and are too busy racing to notice lol.

This is more hardcore than most guys on this site are with respect to track days, but wow this Mustang is awesome!!! Its apparently on oldschool vintage bias ply race tires too. Too bad the video cut off when it did and didn't last about 5 more seconds :)

rBRPy8n2L3E

Gotta love a vintage Mustang beating up on the Porsches

[Ripped]

Here's the 70 Fastback I built for a local customer.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/08/16310835-1.jpg
Here's the build thread
https://www.pro-touring.com/showthread.php?71577-1970-Mustang-Fastback&highlight=
It's coming in this next week to install AFD 4V heads and AFD intake. I am trying to talk my customer into taking it down to the new RRTC event that gonna be in August.

I like the stance on that one.
Yeah I kind of agree, when I went on the mustang cruise, this past summer, there was only me (as a vintage car) on the tour. I felt kind of like the ugly kid sister, becuase I was only in primer and guide coat, but it was a great shake down, for the 'beast. I'm not sure why there is not more touring 'stangs. When I built mine, it was made to be driven, and built to be reliable. So far so good, (since the bearing failure) but the fun, is always tinkering and messing with cars anyway. ;) If you're not breaking something, than you haven't really been having fun!

She's got a lot of good track stuff on her, but was really built as a highway cruiser. A little refined, but otherwise pretty much as evil as she looks ;)

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[cobragt]

My brothers 66 Mustang http://public.fotki.com/pjgrala/all_about_cars/autocross__roadracing/steves_fastback_2.html

[cobragt]

see if this one works. https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/03/stevesfastback1vi-1.jpg

[cobragt]

Anyway this is my Brothers 66 fastback. it has a 345 HP Ford Motorsport 302 Toploader 4spd and 3.55 posi 8" rear. https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/03/stevesfastback2vi-1.jpg

[rogue]

they're all at the track, not dodging cones

not kidding. I see shelbys out at big willow frequently.

[PT Sportwagon]

I think it is just the ease and cost to build a 1st gen Camaro or even most any Chevy product for that matter. Vs. Everything else. pure and simple economics. I like a challenge that is why I have a Buick.

Tim

[ModernMuseum]

Gotta love a vintage Mustang beating up on the Porsches

holy friggin hell that mustang is fast!!!!

[66 mustang]

If you want to see one dodging cones check out Maier racing and their blue 66

[Matt@BOS]

I think it is just the ease and cost to build a 1st gen Camaro or even most any Chevy product for that matter. Vs. Everything else. pure and simple economics. I like a challenge that is why I have a Buick.

Tim

That is what I used to think too. Then I bought a Mustang. A complete set of wheel houses, quarter skins, and fenders cost around $550. Restoration parts for Mustangs seem very affordable, and I think that might account for why there are so many relatively stock looking ones at local car shows. "pro-touring" parts and mod motors are a very different story though, and I think I will soon be discovering if they are a lot more expensive. Also remember, Ford doesn't really have another hugely popular nameplate like GM, so there are probably more Mustangs being built and maintained than Camaros, and maybe the volume accounts for the lower cost of parts. I also wonder if it is because the basic little Mustang is so easy to put together, and relatively affordable to do so, that accounts for why there are both so many in general, and comparatively few done to what we would consider a high level. There are probably a lot more people that can afford to build a Mustang than a Camaro, Chevelle, 'Vette, etc.

It wasn't until after I bought my '66 that I realized how many Mustang builds there actually seem to be on here, there are quite a few, and I have feeling there will be even more in the coming months and years.

lastly, I wonder what would have happened if Mark Steilow had gotten a job for Ford instead of GM...

Matt

[Cris@JCG]

I am about to start on a 70 Pro-Tour Mustang.. It has kept me up late @ nites reseaching & coming out new ideas! I promise it will a very something very unique .. Got Ben hermance working on the rendering.. Got the 2011 Coyote Cobra drivetrain coming.. Ordered all DSE suspension components front & rear.. which they don't have yet but will use existing parts to come up with something cool.. some stretching & carbon fiber parts are being discussed.. & much more!!

I am very excited about this build because for a change it will not be a Camaro! Maybe some cool new billet pcs.. Maybe!

Transporter picking it up Monday..

[stage2ROUSH]

Mainly lack of parts choices... but that's going to change. I know DSE is working on stuff and I was a Global West and they have some way cool stuff being developed..

Mustang owners rejoice!!!!

so is it true, DSE is working on some stuff for stangs ???????? thought I read that in a magazine a while back, and seems like i read even on fox body's ????????????????????? if thats so , look out !!!! I've always wished DSE would come to the "DARK side"

[kiwigt]

so is it true, DSE is working on some stuff for stangs ???????? thought I read that in a magazine a while back, and seems like i read even on fox body's ????????????????????? if thats so , look out !!!! I've always wished DSE would come to the "DARK side"

Me too - I'll be one of the first in line if DSE makes first gen Mustang components...

[67greengt]

I'm working on one.... my 67 Fastback !!

I've had the car since I was 11 (now 24) It's my life...everything I do is revolved around my car lol

I was fortunate to have the car featured in bone stock form in Mustang and Fords in Nov 2004 and again in semi-pro touring form in Car Craft this past September. I am now in the process of completely re-doing the car in a one-off true pro touring theme, that I hope to take to Sema when completed.


Some highlights of the build are:



Rouscharged Coyote 5L (not out yet - hopefully by summer this year) at 7lbs of boost will make 600hp
Custom Roadster Shop IFS front end utilizing Corvette C6 Front suspension, shockwaves airbags and rack and pinion steering (working with Phil at Roadster shop on this as we speak)
Ridetech 4 Link Rear Suspension
Ridetech Ridepro and e3 air management system utilizing internal ride height sensors
Mini Tubbed
Custom Dutchman Narrowed rear end
Rushforth Wildside 18x8`s and 18x10`s with 245 and 295 BF KDW`s
Baer Brakes Pro Plus 14" 6 Piston brakes on all four corners
Tremec TKO 600 5 speed or T56 Magnum (currently have a tko600 for the car)
Rick's Stainless steel fuel Tank
Custom one-off interior featuring handbuilt dash and Apple Ipad to run all audio/video/interior switches ie power windows etc
BMW Heated Power Seats
Focal Sound System
Ring Brothers Front Reactor Valance and Bumper
Flush mounted front and rear glass


It's quite an undertaking so I'm not really putting a timeline on it. When it's done, it's done... I'll be sure to post pics as I progress, but progress has been slow lately... hopefully by the summer I'll have the roadster shop front clip on it and maybe have the motor on order..

[Matt@BOS]

so is it true, DSE is working on some stuff for stangs ???????? thought I read that in a magazine a while back, and seems like i read even on fox body's ????????????????????? if thats so , look out !!!! I've always wished DSE would come to the "DARK side"

I bug Kyle about this every time I see him. Two weeks ago when I asked how things were coming along he said they were in the process of developing everything on the computer. As far as I know, they are currently only working on parts for early Mustangs, not Fox stuff. Kyle has also made sure to note that the Mustang stuff is being done first and foremost for a customer, and nothing is set in stone as to when these products might ever make it to the market. I would, however, keep an eye out for an announcement of some kind around the end of the year, or beginning of the next.

Matt

[DarkBuddha]

I am about to start on a 70 Pro-Tour Mustang.. It has kept me up late @ nites reseaching & coming out new ideas! I promise it will a very something very unique .. Got Ben hermance working on the rendering.. Got the 2011 Coyote Cobra drivetrain coming.. Ordered all DSE suspension components front & rear.. which they don't have yet but will use existing parts to come up with something cool.. some stretching & carbon fiber parts are being discussed.. & much more!!

I am very excited about this build because for a change it will not be a Camaro! Maybe some cool new billet pcs.. Maybe!

Transporter picking it up Monday..
The new 5.0 Coyote seems to have inspired some new Mustang builds:

http://www.1969stang.com/mustang/forum/showthread.php?t=9226

http://forums.vintage-mustang.com/mod-custom-forum/619916-66gt350h-clone-w-2011-coyote-5-0-conversion-started.html

[preston]

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[GT500KR_Vert]

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[rogue]

Found one!
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All TCI equipment underneath. Guy has another KR vert.

[CraigMorrison]

One of the challenges with the Mustangs is that they are a unibody. Not like a Camaro either, where you can just unbolt the front sub and replace it, but a serious unibody where there is no subframe to remove. For a lot of manufacturers this has created a lot of challenges to come up with a solution that is easy to install and offer significant performance gains.

With our Max-G platform, we have kind of gone the other way and with a few floor mods/removal we can design a chassis for the ride height the customer wants with a number of front and rear suspension choices. While a project like this isn't for everyone, we have done a lot of chassis for 60's and early 70's era Mustangs. Two of the SMOY Mustangs in the last few years (Alloway and Kendig Design) have used our chassis. Kendig was a challenge since they were using the 405/25-24 on their car, but we were able to package it and it turned out to be very cool.

[Matt@BOS]

Craig, I don't want to get too off topic, but I think this is just relevant enough to post. I've been thinking of giving you guys a call for the last couple of weeks now. Since pro touring seems to be about the latest and greatest technology, I've always wondered if there would be more people on this site building Mustangs if the mod motor was more popular, or fit more easily into cars. Anyway, I've got a 2011 GT500 drivetrain I'm trying to fit in a '66. Both were too good a deal to pass up, and I didn't think about packaging constraints at the time. Have you had any customers who have done this before? The motor has an overall height of around 32" with the stock pan, and 2" less with a dry sump.

Matt

[DarkBuddha]

Craig, I don't want to get too off topic, but I think this is just relevant enough to post. I've been thinking of giving you guys a call for the last couple of weeks now. Since pro touring seems to be about the latest and greatest technology, I've always wondered if there would be more people on this site building Mustangs if the mod motor was more popular, or fit more easily into cars. Anyway, I've got a 2011 GT500 drivetrain I'm trying to fit in a '66. Both were too good a deal to pass up, and I didn't think about packaging constraints at the time. Have you had any customers who have done this before? The motor has an overall height of around 32" with the stock pan, and 2" less with a dry sump.

Matt
I guess you missed the links I posted. One guy has been working on a Coyote '66 GT350H clone.

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Check second link:


The new 5.0 Coyote seems to have inspired some new Mustang builds:

http://www.1969stang.com/mustang/forum/showthread.php?t=9226

http://forums.vintage-mustang.com/mod-custom-forum/619916-66gt350h-clone-w-2011-coyote-5-0-conversion-started.html

[Matt@BOS]

Wyatt, I did see those. In retrospect, I sometimes wish I went with a blown Coyote motor. The GT500 engine now has an aluminum block and is pretty bullet proof up to power levels that border on the absurd, however the increased deck height on the 5.4 makes its physical dimensions about an inch and a half larger than the 4.6 and 5.0.

Matt

[rogue]

The first time I ever saw a muscle car on a road track was at Big willow. I was there for a streets of willow track day and had some free time.

Saw a GT350H running full bore through turns 8 and 9. It gave me a raging hard on that I've been trying to get back since. Car was SO LOUD and sexy.

I'd go with a mustang any day of the damn week.

[Rols574]

Got the 2011 Coyote Cobra drivetrain coming.. Ordered all DSE suspension components front & rear.. which they don't have yet but will use existing parts to come up with something cool

I've been looking for ways to fit that engine on my 67 without having to chop the towers. with DSE im assuming a double wishbone front suspension a la Grigg's Racing?

If you can bring the price down do share your build!

[2blownstangs]

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more info please!

[Ripped]

In case, you didn't see it already, below is the track video I took early in August. After the first series of laps, I got a noise violation warning. I was the loudest car on the track. The sound, honestly was better than sex.
Unfortunately, I had to restrict the exhaust, and that knocked off significant power, for me. Still 1/2 way through, they put me with a group consisting of 2 brand new supercharged roush mustangs, with track instructors driving. My driving was crappy. The car was awesome, and ran all day long without any issues.
It was sponsored by a roush dealership. Probably it wouldn't have been good for sales, if the exhaust was open and the old bucket of bolts was catching the new cars out of the corners ;)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w75WVvAp57M&feature=related


As far as car shows, I found the mustang group, for some part, very clique-y. I put it in one show, the car came 3rd out of 4 cars only, and the last car, a very rough (at home painted) modified convertible, left early. I have no doubt, if he stayed, I'd have been 4th LOL.
They don't like modded cars, period. They're all about reproduction stickers and fake chalk marks LOL

[rayy]

I have been working on trying to get this thing to handle for a while!!. My problem is I have a second gen Camaro also. Let me say that the second gen stock will out handle my modified stang hands down. Not being able to bolt in a sub frame with all new geometry makes life a little harder on us stang lovers!

[my79f]

I have been working on trying to get this thing to handle for a while!!. My problem is I have a second gen Camaro also. Let me say that the second gen stock will out handle my modified stang hands down. Not being able to bolt in a sub frame with all new geometry makes life a little harder on us stang lovers!

More of this car please!!!!!

[A .]

+1 for the Falcon!

[jvtex]

Here's my 68 Fastback. 302 with Maier Front Springs and his Stock replacement Control arms, 1 1/8 swaybar. Maier stock replacement Rear Leaf spring with his Panhard bar. Maier Shelby Hood and trunk lid.


My wife driving
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[SOM1969]

heres a old pic of my 68 stang efi 306/built aod
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[rayy]

Well I will see how the car does on the auto x in a couple of weeks. Goodguys will be in Ft Worth area I will for sure be there. I ran the Camaro last at the spring event now it is the Mustangs turn! Frontend mods are Shelby drop 620 springs, Global West strutrods, roller perches, with Bear Brakes. Thats about it. Hey DSE need a test mule I have a canidate!!! I have herd they are working on mustang stuff kinda waiting to see it before I do anything. The Cortex stuff that is on the PHR Cougar looks real good.

[SM69Mach]

Here is a couple of mine. Been visiting the site for quite some time, just never posted as I wasnt too sure this would be considered pro-touring. Have had the car in my family for almost 20 years. basic suspension mods, brake upgrade, and still kept the 390 Big Block/C6 combo. Have fwe more things to do, but getting there.

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[Chad-1stGen]

That thing sure looks good SM69Mach!

Glad to see this thread still alive. I dove off the deepend on my 68 Camaro instead of a new Mustang project but I still day dread about getting one :)

Keep them stangs coming. Even better are track videos!

[Hotwhilz]

Thaught i'd share a car I owned in the past, the first one I imported

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Thinking about building one in the future!!

[fastbacked]

Some of the pro-touring mustangs are very subtle, like this one:

[DJ Mabe]

Ok i'm curious. What makes that fastback pro-touring? Give us some details.

[rtwind02]

Here is my 69 Stang.
I went with the full frame option since I had a couple of mustangs with newer upgraded suspension options.

Frame & Suspension
Schwartz Performance G-Machine bolt-in full frame
QA1 single-adjustable coilovers
Wilwood 13″ rotors, 6-piston front calipers, 4-piston rears

Engine
Ford Racing all-aluminum 5.0L DOHC
Ford Racing 624hp 9psi supercharger kit
Custom 4″ stainless-steel air intake tube with K&N air filter
Cooled by an aluminum BeCool radiator & electric fan

Drivetrain
Tremec T56 Magnum
Custom driveshaft
Moser full-floating 9″ housing, Detroit TrueTrac differential, 1350 yoke

Exhaust
Modified stock header manifolds
Custom 3″ round & oval stainless-steel exhaust with dual electric cutouts

Wheels & Tires
Forgeline SP3P w/diamond-cut edges, polished lip
19×12.5 rear, wrapped with 345/30/19 Michelin Pilot Sport PS2
18×9 front, wrapped with 255/40/18 Michelin Pilot Sport PS2

Paint & Body
Anvil carbon fiber hood, front spoiler, mirrors, decklid, tail panel and rear lip spoiler
PPG Orange Glow two-tone: black roof, by Psychotic Air, Batavia, IL

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[fastbacked]

Ok i'm curious. What makes that fastback pro-touring? Give us some details.

It's the full chassis and stroked clevor motor. It was meant as a small joke. It was a car that I built, and no longer own. I love original cars and pro-touring too. If it wasn't for the fact that I am ill and not working (still have the surplus funds), I would be building a 68 fastback with a Kaase Boss 9. I spend a lot of time following other builds here.

[riles]

You know Bret, I think your theory has a lot of merit. Since lurking around a few different Ford websites I've noticed there is a whole heck of a lot more posting about Track days and vintage racing than you ever see on this site. I think the hardcore Mustang track guys have probably been doing their thing long before Pro-Touring got momentum and are too busy racing to notice lol.

This is more hardcore than most guys on this site are with respect to track days, but wow this Mustang is awesome!!! Its apparently on oldschool vintage bias ply race tires too. Too bad the video cut off when it did and didn't last about 5 more seconds :)

rBRPy8n2L3E

Very nice Mustang and love the sound of that small block Ford. Unfortunately the old brakes and suspension are no match for the modern Porsche , but that small block separates them quick. Reminds me of the when I went to the Trans-Am series at Watkins and Road America, with my older brother. What a great time in auto history. That and the Can Am cars, nothing ever matched them.

[skooli]

Here's mine. It's more of a resto-mod than pro-touring, but the plan is to go nuts with the suspension when I move back to the mainland from Hawaii. There's no track events or anything here so a full pro-touring build would be purely for aesthetics. The new DSE Mustang deal has my attention though.

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[19Mustang65]

It does take a lot of extra work to get the engines and upgrades into a Mustang than a Camaro. I love the challenge. Here is some pictures of my 65 Mustang.99562

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[19Mustang65]

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Those are some pictures of the car as it sits right not except in epoxy primer black now. Getting ready to mini tub the rear, shoulda did it a long time ago, better late than never. I still have maier front and rear fender flares to cut in and mold on as soon as the car gets back to South Carolina from Portland Oregon. Made a lot of space in the engine bay for a 429 thunderjet out of galaxie gt 500. Chassis stiffening kit is all welded in.

[Sicarius428]

I love the pictures. I have a 70 Mach 1 428cj that will be getting the pro-touring treatment. I am building my knowledge... and money before I do make the first cut. Hopefully next year I will get it media blasted and epoxy primered so I have a clean slate.
Kevin

[groho]

996709967199672Gotta repreezent! Been working on my 66 coupe for several years, finally making some head-way. Money has dictated my direction, trying my absolute best to keep it low budget. GM, without question, is more readily available, has more parts, and more options. In fact, our local "speed shop" Tognotti's, displays GM, Ford and Mopar, but never, ever, has any ford or mopar in stock, everything is bow-tie. Why a coupe? cuz rust bucket Camaro's are way overpriced. Not bashing Camaro's cuz I've owned 5 of them over the years, was my first love, simply overpriced. I would love to build a 68 Dart with a 5.7 hemi, but can't imagine the cost for parts, if they can be found. Here ya go, as for my coupe, should have it out of paint by end of month. Gonna swing by Maier's shop next time I'm in the bay area and pick up some essentials.

[Chad-1stGen]

Sweet Mustangs guys. Looking forward to seeing more of these out and about.

[DarkBuddha]

It does take a lot of extra work to get the engines and upgrades into a Mustang than a Camaro.
... and clearly, quite a bit of money. Nice build though.

[fitzmotor]

100261 I am almost done with one, 363ci, 6 speed, engine moved back 10" TCI front and rear, mini tubbed, I am struggling with the handling, the rear of the car is hopeless, can't touch the throttle out of a turn, I'm taking a shoulder surgery break now but will get back to it soon.

[BlackMachOne]

I think more mustang people classify their cars as resto-mods than pro-touring. I didn't even hear about this forum until recently and I have owned my Mustang for 12 years.

[rusman]

I'm not sure in my car qualifies as pro touring or not..... It's a 66 coupe.

302 5.0 V8 Fuel Injected Engine from a 1990 Mustang
JBA Mid-Length Headers
5 Speed Manual Transmission
Cold Air Intake
Wilwood 12.19” 6 piston Front Disc Brakes
TCP Double Adjustable Coil Over Front Suspension with Dropped Upper Control Arms
Corbeau GTS II Leather Bucket Seats
Maier Flared Body Kit
JVC Navigation System
SiriusXM Radio
Pioneer 5-Way Speakers
American Racing Shelby Wheels
2-1/2” Stainless Steel Spintech Dual Exhaust
Spintech Sub-frame Connectors
Dakota Digital VHX Gauges
LED Brake Lights
LED Turn Signals
HID Lights
LED Daytime Running Lights
QuietRide Insulation Installed Throughout
BoomMat in Trunk and Over Mufflers
Classic Auto Air A/C
Ididit Tilt Steering Column


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[DarkBuddha]

I think it does qualify, quite nicely.

[NOT A TA]

I'm currently building a 68 fastback for someone at his home shop. Carbed 5.0, AOD, Heidts suspension, Fox body disc rear, and it'll be rolling on 20's. The owner's a rep for a paint supplier to local body shops and is doing the bodywork himself.

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[taz289]

I've also been wondering why there aren't more pro-touring Mustangs being shown.
One possibility is that not everyone is clear on just what a pro touring is, and that includes me.
I've been a Mustang owner since 1967, when I walked into the Ford showroom for a sneak peek
at the new '67 GT Fastback on display. I fell in love with that car and ordered one right then and there.
It was a GT S-code 390, 4 speed, Wimbledon white with a whole whack of options. It was that nice interior
that did it for me. And, back then, the Camaro only had the 350 cu. in. option.

Sadly, I sold that car many years ago, but I did manage to track it down and contact the current owner to
try to buy it back. Needless to say, he declined my offer, but he did agree to contact me if/when he changes
his mind about selling it. All I can do now is hope for the opportunity to present itself. Yeah, I know, good luck.

Here's a couple of shots of me and my "new toy" from back then....

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I've since built a 1967 Mustang Fastback custom pro touring. This has been a 4 year project so far with much
more yet to be done before it's finished. Some basic details include.....
Color: Lincoln "White Chocolate" tricolor white pearl paint
Engine: 347 Stroker, 435hp, fuel injected, Comp Cams 555/576lift, 236/242 duration roller cam & lifters
Exhaust: JBA Headers, DynaFlow stainless steel 21/2" crossover exhaust system
Transmission: Z-spec T-5 speed
Differential: Ford 9" nodular, 3.70/1
Front suspension: TCP Coil-Over system
Rear suspension: TCP G-Bar Coil-Over System
Steering: TCP Power Rack & Pinion System
TCP Subframe Connector System c/w Driveshaft Loop
TCP Shock Tower Brace Set
Brakes: Power Assist Baer 13" Disk Brakes front & back
American Racing Daytona Wheels, 17"x8" front, 18"x9" rear
Tires: Toyo Proxes TIR tires, 235/45x17" front, 275/40x18" rear
Rick's Custom Stainless 22gal fuel tank
Lots of electronics - power windows, keyless power door locks, push-button start, GPS, Satellite Radio, etc.

Here's a couple of photos of my newest "Toy in Progress" ..... hope you like it.....

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[DarkBuddha]

Beautiful car and great vintage pics taz289.

Whatever "pro-touring" means now, it's a constantly shifting term. At one time, it was more simple, general, and functional, but seems to have evolved to have sub categories and deviations and politics. IMHO the label matters less than the actual individual cars and how they're built and used. I personally find many of the high end "pro-touring" cars have passed into one different category or another, like Muscle Rods, or Muscle Customs, or Rod Racers or whatever. But for me, they live somewhere mostly outside the simple, genera, functional "pro-touring" world that so many of us have lived in for the last 25+ years.

[fish2keel]

Its so great to see more vintage mustangs on this site. I have my own build thread over at vintage-mustang and was planning on one here but only when I get some proper pictures. The build threads on this site are amazing! Anyway i have a 1967 mustang coupe. In the process of a ground up build. It has a 306 with a t5 behind it currently built for boost but may be changing that soon. The point of my build is light weight, nimble and corner carving. The car has many things that are custom such as no drip rails, custom motor mounts, side exhaust, nascar front end, fender flairs and possible a wing similar to the optima street car mustang.

Keep the mustangs coming guys!

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

thats cause they call them Resto mods.. lol.

[stangreen]

this is my stang its been in my family since new I've grown up with it I'm had about 26 years now it is a 347 EFI procharged F 2 Tremec Magnum 6 speed twin clutch 4 link back half car mini tubbed + nitrous methanol injection just a lot of fun and I put a lot of miles every year on this car I have built everything on this car myself except spray the color on it

[DarkBuddha]

^^^ NICE!


thats cause they call them Resto mods.. lol.
Truth.

[justin51986]

this is my stang its been in my family since new I've grown up with it I'm had about 26 years now it is a 347 EFI procharged F 2 Tremec Magnum 6 speed twin clutch 4 link back half car mini tubbed + nitrous methanol injection just a lot of fun and I put a lot of miles every year on this car I have built everything on this car myself except spray the color on it

what size are your rear wheels/tires? offset? i'm considering doing a detroit mini tub on mine, already purchased the kit, but i'll have to modify my TCI 3 link setup, i really like how yours looks

[stangreen]

17x11 with 3.8 B.S. tires 315/35/17 et street ll
what size are your rear wheels/tires? offset? i'm considering doing a detroit mini tub on mine, already purchased the kit, but i'll have to modify my TCI 3 link setup, i really like how yours looks

[stangreen]

here is a couple pictures with my other set of back wheels they have more of a drag racing look they are 17x12 with 4.7 B.S. with 345/40/17 drag radials

[justin51986]

thanks!!

[nytouring]

must of read my mind, keep this thread going!

[0065]

this is my stang its been in my family since new I've grown up with it I'm had about 26 years now it is a 347 EFI procharged F 2 Tremec Magnum 6 speed twin clutch 4 link back half car mini tubbed + nitrous methanol injection just a lot of fun and I put a lot of miles every year on this car I have built everything on this car myself except spray the color on it

Beautiful mustang!! I had a baby d1sc procharger and loved it.

[stangreen]

I agree that ProCharger is a ton of fun and a big difference I used to have a holley root style 174 blower on it and the f2 ProCharger makes twice the difference

[jason1281]

thought yall might like to check these pics out found them here https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=205089452876747

[Justin@EntropyRad]

That green stang is anvil-tough...like this thread!

[vintageracer]

Why are there not more Mustang PT cars?

Because they are not competitive with the "Big Boys"!

[heavyd22]

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Here's my 68 Fastback after lots of mods. I'll list some of the main things:
302 with FAST EZ-EFI, AOD-E with US Shift controller, 9" Detroit Truetrac 3.70 rear, 4-wheel disc brakes, Vintage Air, 2 1/2" Flowmaster exhaust, Flaming River power steering,...

[67_coupe]

What front suspension do you have? I noticed that the shock towers have been removed. And this might be a weird request but...do you have any more shots of that TMI console? I'm debating purchasing one and haven't seen many actual photos of them in a mustang.

[heavyd22]

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There's another view of the console. As for the suspension, it's Heidts MII.

[justin51986]

my coupe to fastback conversion is coming along slowly

[xsboost90]

still working on mine- getting the motor together while doing body work and everything else at once..120351

[DCx]

Here is my pro-driver 67 mustang. i shaved the firewall and positioned the 5.3 engine up and back so modified ls3 camaro exhaust manifolds will clear the steering box. The car uses all oem ford front suspension and manual steering. out back i have a fox mustang 8.8 with sn95 discs. fuel supply is a stock 67 fuel tank with a 98 cobra fuel pump module/basket welded to the top. plan is to run holley HP efi and some day add a 76mm single turbo.

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[xsboost90]

nice another LS mustang. My cousin has a 67 notch back we are slowly fixing up as well. Good start!

[rwcstang]

I agree with the above comments, not many aftermarket parts for our mustangs...but I am absolutely loving the coyote swaps in our classic stangs which is my next to do list if my 351w fails. Here's mine, its not FB but you dont see many 69-70 coupes running around in the pro touring scene.

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[preston]

I would not have thought I would like a side scoop on a '69. And for that matter while I like notchbacks in every other year, I'm not a fan of '69 notchbacks, and yet, your car looks really nice. Good job.

[Matt@BOS]

Here's mine...
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[Josh@Ridetech]

Here's mine...
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[TN-CTD]

buying a 85' fox with a nasty blown 302 and a Tremec 5 speed for a song. Plan on finding a 65-66 coupe to swap the motor and trans into and build a fun car for these TN roads

[staffy]

Here's mine...
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Oh man, you gotta tell us more about that beast
Chris

[migg400]

Here's my Fastback, still under construction!

[blackthunder70]

here is one
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[Cyclone03]

Here is mine.

[Profdeuce]

After building this 427 CID 66 mustang I believe overall construction costs would exceed the GM counterpart, therefore many choose GM. Even the "basic" Ford aluminum engine cost is quite high, and doesn't include intake manifold, distributor, water pump, etc.

I choose an old school drivetrain. It is pretty bulletproof. After blueprinting the engine it produced 629 HP at 6700 RPM with 596 Ft-Pounds of torque at 5000. It's still an ongoing project as described in another section of this website.

[BlackdogNY]

My project...not many Fox Bodies...so this is my vision...time will tell if it is a success...happy so far.
https://www.instagram.com/blackdogny/...scroll thru.

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[Mark Antrim]

You can now add 2 more mustangs to the protouring list. I'm starting a 67 and when that's done a 68 is waiting for upgrades.

[m1002b]

http://roadstershop.com/galleries/marcs-1965-mustang/

INTRODUCING “VAPOR”:
A RAUCOUS 785HP RESTOMOD ’65 MUSTANG
TO BE UNVEILED AT SEMA ON NOVEMBER 1

Crafted by The RoadsterShop, “Vapor” Will Be Revealed at Eaton Booth, And Showcase Edelbrock’s E-Force Supercharged 5.0 Coyote Motor

LAS VEGAS (October 20, 2016) – “Vapor” a ferocious, 785-hp restomod ’65 Mustang Fastback crafted by award-winning builder RoadsterShop, will be unveiled at the Eaton booth (#229430) at the 2016 SEMA Show on November 1 at 9:30 a.m.

Presented in conjunction with two of the aftermarket’s preeminent brands— Eaton and Edelbrock— the fittingly named “Vapor” is derived from the only remnants visible after this supercar passes by.

Fitted under Vapor’s hood is Edelbrock’s newest and most powerful E-Force supercharged Ford 5.0 liter Coyote crate engine. The low profile supercharger design incorporates Eaton’s TVS® (Twin Vortices Series) rotors with 4 lobes and a 160-degrees of twist which optimizes airflow and produces consistent peak efficiency. The motor produced an astonishing 785 hp and 660 ft-lbs. of torque at the flywheel when tested at the Edelbrock dyno facility. Its 9.5:1 compression ratio generates safe and reliable supercar performance that still runs on premium pump gas.

“We are excited to showcase our most technologically advanced and powerful E-Force supercharged Ford 5.0 liter Coyote crate motor in possibly the finest 65 Mustang build we have ever seen,” said Steve Whipple, Vice President of Sales & Marketing at Edelbrock. “The unbelievable craftsmanship and cutting edge design of Vapor make us proud to be associated with this project.”

Vapor also features Eaton‘s Detroit Truetrac® 5 pinion rear end designed with a scalloped flange for reduced rotating mass and the perfect fit in high horsepower performance applications where extreme strength and durability are critical.

“Eaton’s engineering expertise with our supercharger and differentials resulted in the products you see on the Vapor,” said Amy Kartch, director, aftermarket sales, Eaton Vehicle Group. “Having a presence on such an exciting vehicle reaffirms Eaton’s technical capabilities in providing products for the automotive aftermarket that are designed to handle high performance applications.”




Accentuating its lines, the car is presented in a Sport Classic Gray and Black paint scheme that is both menacing yet understated. Vapor is the result of a two-year build, commissioned by a Southern California-based enthusiast and collector, who conceived the project and oversaw its significant design and production details.

The Roadster Shop team dedicated countless hours, precision painstaking craftsmanship and innovative design and production of bespoke components in the development of this one-of-a-kind car. Their work included a ground up chassis and suspension design, custom metal work, design/engineering and production of one off CNC-machined parts, complete wiring, assembly and painting. Interior and upholstery was completed by Palm City, Florida-based Avant Garde Designs.

About Eaton
Eaton is a power management company with 2015 sales of $20.9 billion. Eaton provides energy-efficient solutions that help customers effectively manage electrical, hydraulic and mechanical power more efficiently, safely and sustainably. Eaton has approximately 95,000 employees and sells products to customers in more than 175 countries. For more information, visit www.eaton.com.

About Edelbrock
Founded in 1938, Torrance-based Edelbrock, LLC is recognized as one of the nation’s premier designers, manufacturers and distributor of performance replacement parts for the automotive aftermarket. Edelbrock produces their core products in the United States of America using state-of-the-art equipment in their world class manufacturing facilities. Edelbrock, LLC encompasses five locations in Southern California and one location in North Carolina totaling more than 500,000 square feet. For more information, visit www.edelbrock.com

About The RoadsterShop
For more than 30 years, The RoadsterShop has developed award-winning projects, from custom car builds to chassis and suspension manufacturing. The company operates from a 50,000 sq. ft., state of the art, design and production facility in Mundelein, Illinois.

[DCx]

Here is my pro-driver 67 mustang. i shaved the firewall and positioned the 5.3 engine up and back so modified ls3 camaro exhaust manifolds will clear the steering box. The car uses all oem ford front suspension and manual steering. out back i have a fox mustang 8.8 with sn95 discs. fuel supply is a stock 67 fuel tank with a 98 cobra fuel pump module/basket welded to the top. plan is to run holley HP efi and some day add a 76mm single turbo.

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here is an update'

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[fitzmotor]

I ran it at the Optima Ultimate Street Car event at Calif Speedway, it was a lot of fun, unfortunately I had fuel system issues and had to quit early, there were a few old Mustangs there, but there was a s#!tload of Camaros and misc GM cars.
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[GTO MAN]

66 Mustang Fastback CarEngine Information
Engine Ford 427 cu.in. - stroked 351W small block (4.040 Bore 4.170 Stroke 6.250 rod length)
Engine has less than 1000 all street driven miles
Compression Ratio 10.31

Engine Flywheel HP 540 hp 5300 rpm 560 ft-lbs torque 4300 rpm (using a custom Holley 750HP carb)

Ignition MSD 6AL-2 with MSD Pro Billet Mechanical Advance Distributor (22 Initial 34 Total timing)
NGK FR-5 spark plugs

Intake Manifold Edelbrock Performer RPM Dual Plane that has been ported by Bryce Mulvey at Dr. Js Performance (316 cfm average runner flow). The center divider in the intake is notched.
Intake Manifold Bolt Pattern Single 4150

Cylinder Heads Pro Comp (Edelbrock Victor Jr. Clone) CNC Ported by Mark Jeffrey at Trans Am Racing Engines 5-angle valve job
1.7 rockers
Intake Valve Diameter 2.08
Exhaust Valve Diameter 1.6
Intake Port Volume 225 cc
Exhaust Port Volume 74 cc
Combustion Chamber 68 cc
Flow Data 308.2 cfm at 0.60" lift 28" H2O 311.4 cfm at 0.625" lift 28" H2O and 316.1 cfm at 0.650" 28" H2O

Camshaft Bullet Cams Hydraulic Roller
Camshaft - Intake Duration .050 243 (299 lash duration)
Camshaft - Exhaust Duration .050 250 (306 lash duration)
Camshaft - Intake Gross Valve Lift 0.625 using 1.7 rockers
Camshaft - Exhaust Gross Valve Lift 0.625 using 1.7 rockers
Lobe Separation 109*
Intake Lobe Centerline 106*

Fuel Type Pump Gas 91 to 93 octane

Fuel Pump Mechanical
Fuel Pump GPH rating 120
Fuel Pressure at Idle 6 12 to 7 psi (adjusted by regulator)

Oil Pump Carter StreetStrip high volume

Transmission Type Manual 4-Speed Top Loader

Rear End Currie 9 Inch Ford with TSD (limited slip) Differential 31 spline axels Ratio 3.251

Suspension Car was featured on the front cover of the 2004 Total Control Products (TCP) catalog. Total Control Products Front Suspension with Rack & Pinion Steering Total Control Products Full Sub Frame Connector System Total Control Products Shock Tower Brace System Maier Racing rear leaf springs and panhard bar 4-wheel disk brakes 3 aluminum driveshaft

Wheels & Tires American Racing Torque Thrust II 17 x 8 Yokagawa 235-45-ZR17 25.3" diameter tires

Mufflers SpinTech Pro Shoot Out Race Series 2 12"

Headers Hooker Super Comp 6208 1 34" primaries 3" collector

Additional Cylinder Head Flow Data
Intake Exhaust
.100 68 51
.200 142 110
.300 210 175
.400 254 207
.500 288 218
.600 308 221
.700 322 225

Additional Intake Manifold Flow Data
Runner CSA exit 2.63 sq "
Runner CSA Plenum Entry 3.42 sq " total
Flow Numbers
Tested at 28" with 4510 Carb simulator (cylinder heads not attached)
Runner Flow
1 302 cfm
2 330 cfm
3 328 cfm
4 310 cfm
5 315 cfm
6 312 cfm
7 328 cfm
8 309 cfm

Additional Engine Build Parts Information
351W block
Complete bore package
Super street & strip stroker kit
Crank shaft mild knife edge 4340 indexed oil holes & re- heat treated
Main girdle w studs
Total seal rings
Thermal coat je pistons
Trans am racing cnc heads
Thermal coat valves
Gaskets
New front cover
Fel-pro head gaskets
Edelbrock performer rpm intake ceramic coated
Stage ii port intake
Gasket match intake
Blp custom built holley 750hp)
Arp head bolts
Arp cam bolt
Arp crank bolt
Arp oil pump shaft
HV adjustable oil pump
Rrp ss bolt kit
Aluminum hv water pump
Custom billet hyd. Roller cam by bullet cams
Skorpion billet roller rockers- 1.7=.651
Bullet hyd. Roller short travel lifters
Beehive springs
Probe rocker stud girdles

Comp push rods
Comp retro kit
Msd dist. & 6Al-2 ignition box 6421
Taylor 8mm wires
Ngk fr-5 plugs)
Carter hp fuel pump
Sfi balancer
Road race front sump pan
Front sump pick up tube
High tq mini starter
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[funbnme]

I'm making progress on my 65.

It's not really a full pro-touring car (since I'm keeping it mostly vintage with the interior styling and carbed 302 motor in it), but it's getting some PT style upgrades.

Coil-over front / 4 link coil-over rear
Wilwood 6 piston fronts / 4 piston rear brakes
TCP Rack & Pinion Power Steering
17" Cragar Eliminator wheels
Fox body mustang front seats
Vintage Air A/C
T5 transmission swap / 305hp 302 engine

Just got it off the body cart and onto its wheels for the first time last night.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/11/8D663F13C0CC4BE699BDF19AE0352CF1_zpsygpu-1.jpg

[Mad tiki]

Ive decided to go a different route. Im starting with an all original 67 390GT. The plan is to lighten up the front end to within 50 pounds of a 5.0 which is pretty easy to do. Im still not 100% on which way i want to go with the build. Front end needs complete rebuild. I definitely want wider 255(ish) tires up front with 285(ish) rears. Electric R&P is a must. I would love to eliminate the shock towers. (Worst engineering design ever!)199520199520

[Vimes]

Electric R&P is a must.

I've always loved those old Cougars. They have a more refined look than the Mustang they're based on. Unfortunately, a full electric R&P is going to be a difficult add-on. The electric rack didn't come along until after CANBUS data, and (PLEASE someone correct me if I'm wrong!) so far as I know nobody's cracked the CANBUS/BCM connection well enough to use CANBUS-controlled accessories like electric racks.

The solution I'm going with on my truck project is a manual rack and pinion with a Corolla electric column assist unit (https://www.therangerstation.com/tech/toyota-electric-power-steering-eps-conversion/) mounted to the firewall. This unit can either be controlled by a rheostat that lets you control the amount of assist by turning a knob on the dash, or you can rig up a speed sensor to automatically control assist by speed. I'm going to use one of these boards (http://myraceshop.com/Legacy_Power_Steering_Controlle.html) to control mine. Unfortunately, parts are on a shelf right now and I won't have this worked out until a year or two after I get my truck back from the frame shop. I was initially concerned with using a power steering unit for a 2700lb car on a 4000lb truck, but I think it will work because the Corolla is a front wheel drive and the truck is rear wheel drive, and the Corolla power steering has to cop with turning wheels under constant power. The extra force required to turn a powered wheel should be close to the same as the force required to turn a heavier unpowered wheel. Plus, I'm aiming to get the truck down closer to a Corolla's weight. :twothumbs

That being said, if someone comes up with an HP-Tuners-like way to easily manipulate CANBUS stuff before I get mine built I'll probably change directions. An electric rack would be superior to a manual rack with an EPS box. It would be lighter, with all the weight lower down. Also, look under the Suspension section, there's a sticky there called "Toyota FRS Electric Power Steering in an A Body" discussing electric power steering.

[lxg44]

I also went the different root with a 69 Cougar

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[69stang]

Getting there, see link in signature.

[1bad68cat]

Cougar for me. Hope I can get it off the back burner soon.

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Brother has a 66 mustang

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[72Pstroke]

I haven't posted in a while, but here is my contribution to the thread.
521 cubic inch, Topoloader, Gear Vendor OD, 3.50 gears. 542hp 572tq at the ground on pump gas.
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[FORDvsCHEVY]

Revolution speed shop in auburn Wa. Loves throwing Coyotes into classic mustang

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There doing work for me on my chevelle. This a 69 they wide bodied. Pretty much all new custom panels, frame…. Well everything. Hood is super cool modeled after a Ford GT

I believe it’s getting a VooDoo just not sure if it’s SC version

[Uzivert]

Awesome!

I do have one question...

Can I have a ride? :D haha

[Mjordan]

That color combo really looks good with the wheels. Is that a custom mix blue?

[72Pstroke]

I am not sure if that question was directed to me, but my car is the original color, Gulfstream Aqua.
Thanks.

[Mjordan]

It was for lxg44 on his cougar.

But what was your car built towards? Beast of an engine

[72Pstroke]

The main goal was to run the Silver State Classic, and some standing mile events.

[LJM66]

I'm a new member and figured I would add some photos of a recently finished 66 fastback build.
Long term project but pretty satisfied with the results.
Hope I've attached the photos correctly.
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[Vimes]

That is some outstanding work.

[Threepointtwo]

I have one started in the Project Updates section. It’s mostly rust and dreams at this point but hopefully it will be something fun one day.
https://www.pro-touring.com/threads/139305-66-Mustang-Restomod-Project
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[214Chevy]

I also went the different root with a 69 Cougar

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Bad a$$...

[taz289]

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Now since she's finished, she was entered in the World of Wheels Show and won Best Ford in Show.
Since then, we have been totally enjoying driving her to Show and Shines all over the province as well
as lots of cruise nights, really enjoying the participation. She's not a trailer queen!

Here's a current photo after one of those cruise outings...

[staffy]

I'm a new member and figured I would add some photos of a recently finished 66 fastback build.
Long term project but pretty satisfied with the results.
Hope I've attached the photos correctly.
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That is absolutely outstanding, can you post some details please on your build? Who made the chassis etc
Chris