View Full Version : where is a good place live? where they is a need for teachers
aeroocoupe
02-12-2011, 04:52 PM
Looking to move out long island ny. My wife is a certified teacher birth- to middle school. Here in NY there is no jobs for her. We have 2 small children. We could sell the house and walk away. I'm a steamfitter and jack of all trades and a master of none lol.
Looking for advise on a town city where there is a need for teachers, any help would be great.
Thanks Rob
Crestronwizard
02-12-2011, 05:45 PM
Mebane,NC is a quiet town yet growing fast.
go-fish
02-12-2011, 08:40 PM
Yeah, North Carolina seems to be full of New Yorkers. You would fit in. Where they really need teachers in a bad way is Mississippi, Alabama, and Louisiana. Real estate outside New Orleans isn't bad either.
Scarelane
02-12-2011, 09:04 PM
No perfect place to live. Pay isn't so good down South. Good luck on your search.
go-fish
02-12-2011, 10:59 PM
Pay isn't so good down South.
Cost of living is the lowest around though. It equals out, believe me. I'm in the military and make the exact same whether I am here in So. California or where I was stationed before (45 minutes outside New Orleans).
My pay doesn't change and I can sock more $$$ away living down south. What's that tell you. Plus, this guy could get into pipe fitting if he is a steam fitter and make a great wage in the oil industry down there.
I think the only two bad things down there is the humidity and having to deal with a population that has had the lowest education levels for the past forever. It is nice to know you can walk into just about any building in the state and know you're one of the smartest people there,
DartorDemon
02-12-2011, 11:08 PM
Looking to move out long island ny. My wife is a certified teacher birth- to middle school. Here in NY there is no jobs for her. We have 2 small children. We could sell the house and walk away. I'm a steamfitter and jack of all trades and a master of none lol.
Looking for advise on a town city where there is a need for teachers, any help would be great.
Thanks Rob
what does your wife teach?? JMO, if she teaches science, avoid the south like a plague. Otherwise, avoid cali, we're broke. lol
go-fish
02-12-2011, 11:29 PM
where is a good place live? where they is a need for teachers
what does your wife teach??
Goin' off a hunch but I don't think English Composition.
j/k Rob
aeroocoupe
02-13-2011, 05:22 AM
I really don't know what to do. She wants to teach, and if it wasn't for her 90k in school loans we would be o.k. We need to make 6k a month to be broke. The idea of moving is hard because we have no family outside of NY. We want to be near the water of some kind. Right now we are minutes from the ocean, and a nice town. I was also are looking for a place that has 2-3 family homes. Right know we have a 2 family house. I would like a 3 car garage with a house. If we can walk away with no debt, it be worth it... Or do we stay and try to make it work?
The_Humbler
02-13-2011, 06:02 AM
Only thing to do is to stay, unfortunalty. My wife is a teacher too.. Even teachers are getting pink slips here in Massachusetts, but my wife is "safe" as she's been in the same school system since she came out of college. She's got seniority and tenure.
Once you switch school systems, you loose the seniority and start at the bottom of the barrel all over again. Next round of layoffs, you're out.
My wife and I both looked at moving "down South" as it was supposedly cheapt to live. Its not. Housing is (now, finally), but gas, food, ect is just as expensive, and in some cases, even more so. My father and two other family member live in Ft. Myers, and they are of the same opinion.
Also, we couldn't get anyone to talk to us about jobs, including the state of florida for my wife. I'm in Pest Control (owned my own business, etc) and I couldn't get a company to even return an e-mail or a phone call. They don't want "Yankees" moving down there, as the hold us responsible for the price increases in real estate, which is true.
We're staying for now, till I find someone who will talk to me about work. I've tried a couple of places in NC as well, with the same non-response I got in Florida.
absintheisfun
02-13-2011, 06:06 AM
I think the only two bad things down there is the humidity and having to deal with a population that has had the lowest education levels for the past forever. It is nice to know you can walk into just about any building in the state and know you're one of the smartest people there,
The humidity you get used to....and actually start to enjoy. As far as the intelligence factor—it depends on where you are. There are plenty of dumbasses in California too. The south gets an unfair stereotype about intelligence because we don't speak with the speed and tenacity of New Yorkers.
If we are going to rush, it is to the bar or to dinner. We just don’t see the need to rush our mouths “just because.” And I would rather listen to a Southern Belle over a Jersey Shore ANY DAY.
67autocross
02-13-2011, 08:13 AM
I would think long and hard about leaving, I have had friends in Canada that moved away from Vancouver to a cheaper area, after a few years they could never afford to move back.
aeroocoupe
02-13-2011, 08:38 AM
Goin' off a hunch but I don't think English Composition.
j/k Rob
That' s funny, but that's life with 2 crazy kids running around u. ( our son is 3 and daughter is will be 2 soon)
68sixspeed
02-13-2011, 09:54 AM
I think you can reduce your living costs a lot by getting off Long Island and a bit away from NYC... lets face it, the northeast is expensive compared to a lot of other areas in the country, but a move to an area 2-3hrs outside of NYC and suddenly houses are $200-300k instead of 1/2 mil and up, gas is cheaper, no toll roads, no traffic, it has it's perks. (I wouldn't have my toys if I had to live near NYC with the higher cost of living) The schools up in my part of the state (NW corner) do pay very well, and while some towns are expensive, it is not like being down in the NYC area. Might be worth a look. Also RI has lower taxes than CT and if you want the ocean it is right near by.
Although with these winters... the south is starting to sound better!
go-fish
02-13-2011, 10:04 AM
That' s funny, but that's life with 2 crazy kids running around u. ( our son is 3 and daughter is will be 2 soon)
I know man, I just had my niece over this weekend and my daughter, both 5 years old. I couldn't even get online. I was honestly just kidding.
go-fish
02-13-2011, 10:22 AM
The humidity you get used to....and actually start to enjoy. As far as the intelligence factor—it depends on where you are. There are plenty of dumbasses in California too. The south gets an unfair stereotype about intelligence because we don't speak with the speed and tenacity of New Yorkers.
If we are going to rush, it is to the bar or to dinner. We just don’t see the need to rush our mouths “just because.” And I would rather listen to a Southern Belle over a Jersey Shore ANY DAY.
You get used to the humidity in New Orleans? I lived there for the better part of the last decade and never really got used to it. Natives never really get used to it in the height of it all. I just can't get used to the dry air of the Santa Ana's either I guess. With that being said, I would move back to the Gulf Coast and am honestly considering it seeing as I am getting out of the military soon.
As for So. CA, yep, there are some dumbasses here but I would rather live here than Dallas. I grew up not far from where your are Absinthe. I would love to move to Northeast Texas (Marshall or Hughes Springs area) but the pay I can get in the south vs. the cost of living is far better than Texas.
Also, I'm referring to the real South, like deep south. I think in this topic of discussion you have a different definition of regions. It's not like saying Texas is the "South" because we talk slow and listen to country. We're talking about depressed economies and education system's that stem from a different time period. Texas is not part of that scene.
The former is ripe for people from other areas to move to and thrive because they can bring skills where there are relatively few or the demand is higher.
rogue
02-13-2011, 12:25 PM
thailand
1red68
02-13-2011, 02:58 PM
Have you thought about Alaska?
they are looking for teachers and steamfitters. If you stay along the coast the weather isn't as cold/bad as you would think.
it's also beautiful... if you like the outdoors you'll love it, but if you don't then it's most likely not the best place for you.
DartorDemon
02-13-2011, 04:33 PM
The humidity you get used to....and actually start to enjoy. As far as the intelligence factor—it depends on where you are. There are plenty of dumbasses in California too. The south gets an unfair stereotype about intelligence because we don't speak with the speed and tenacity of New Yorkers.
If we are going to rush, it is to the bar or to dinner. We just don’t see the need to rush our mouths “just because.” And I would rather listen to a Southern Belle over a Jersey Shore ANY DAY.
um, just need to clarify, its not so unjustified. California has a large number of dumbasses because they either don't apply themselves to school or havent been taught the importance of school, or more recently have a completely broke school.(but really, bad parenting is all across this country, california just happens to be a huge state)
Where as the south is filled with parents actively trying to "stupify" their local education system. Something that hurts the education of kids with good parents.
The Stickman
02-13-2011, 05:57 PM
I think you can reduce your living costs a lot by getting off Long Island and a bit away from NYC... lets face it, the northeast is expensive compared to a lot of other areas in the country, but a move to an area 2-3hrs outside of NYC and suddenly houses are $200-300k instead of 1/2 mil and up, gas is cheaper, no toll roads, no traffic, it has it's perks. (I wouldn't have my toys if I had to live near NYC with the higher cost of living) The schools up in my part of the state (NW corner) do pay very well, and while some towns are expensive, it is not like being down in the NYC area. Might be worth a look. Also RI has lower taxes than CT and if you want the ocean it is right near by.
Although with these winters... the south is starting to sound better!
All of this is very true. I live about an hour and a half outside of NYC and things are way cheaper.
My suggestion is to any place that is warmer, is a right to work state, and has lower taxes and more economic freedom. My personal choices, as a person born and raised in Georgia and thinking long term realizing I'm going to move back to the southeast at some point, are GA, TN, NC, and AL. In that order as well.
A few things to realize while asking for opinions. Florida by and large is not the south. Totally different mindset for the most part. Years of yankee influx has unfortunately brought the NE mindset to the state, especially the coastal areas. This is why you didn't get a good response when speaking to people about jobs. No one likes having someone come into their community and work to change the way they live. People in Colorado can't stand Californians for this reason. Southerns can't stand yankees that do this. If that's not your intentions and you embrace your new home, you'll be fine. Ask any yankee that has moved south and left their northern ways in the north and they'll tell you the same thing. In short, don't ask a yankee's opinion about the south.
We're not stupid. That label doesn't even apply in the broadest terms. It will be to your detriment to believe we are. Now, I realize we have bad public schools compared to most according to the surveys. However, there are plenty of places where the schools are "good". You'll also want to make sure you choose wisely when looking for a place to live since that will affect your school district. If you take the attitude that you'll get out of it what you put in, you're children will be fine education wise. Even secondary schools are good. The south has great colleges but again, you get out what you put in. Education isn't just about what degree or classes you take.
You'll get used to the humidity. It's not that bad at all. It honestly won't be much worse than what you already have in the summer in NY.
Since you want to be near the coast, try the Savannah area. I say this simply because of the industries there. You may both be able to find jobs more easily than elsewhere given yáll's backgrounds. And, yes, you read that correctly, there are two apostrophes in that word.
go-fish
02-13-2011, 07:11 PM
.... given yáll's backgrounds. And, yes, you read that correctly, there are two apostrophes in that word.
Excellent post! My wife is from San Diego and picked up some Southern words like y'all from living on the Gulf Coast for the better part of the '00's. We recently moved back to SD and it's great to see her friend's faces when she throws something like that out there. I love it.
To kind of piggyback on your "education" isn't about school thing, I think the key to making sure your kids are "educated" is to travel and appreciate the differences in different regions. I find the biggest idiots in the country, regardless of locality, are the ones who have never left their state or basically live in a bubble. Like Americans that say it's the greatest country on Earth but have never traveled abroad. Let's just say, I think it's near the top.
Rob, I think it's great that you are entertaining the thought of taking a big leap and relocating. A lot of folks don't know the joy of taking a leap of faith.
aeroocoupe
02-13-2011, 08:19 PM
Something has to change. If we wait too long it might be harder to go. We have a 20ft enclosed car trailer. Maybe we could go live in the country. I have it titled as a camper because my town doesn't let u keep them in a residential area.
MrQuick
02-13-2011, 08:55 PM
old article but i believe it still stands.
http://certificationmap.com/top-10-cities-for-young-teachers/
trex1270
02-14-2011, 09:59 PM
I live in North East Texas..Longview to be exact an love it....lets see, booming economy no state income taxes. Hell it is Texas, what more do you need? Oil field his big hear, but they are other things as well, a few mines, Eastman, US Steel, Lone Star steel, real estate is fair priced...I have 2600' 2.5 car garage, on a half acre with an inground pool..paid 230k...you can build here, a very nice place on 5 acres for about 325k. It just depends what your looking for. If you like football...high school games on Friday are great, plus you have the Cowboys two hours away...
dhutton
02-15-2011, 06:35 AM
I love Texas too but the trouble is there are massive cuts to education spending coming along with significant teacher layoffs. Not a good choice for the OP as near as I can tell.
lnirenberg
02-15-2011, 11:34 AM
Check this out--
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/moneymag/bplive/2010/top100/
Look at the tabs because it breaks things down into several categories. I'm sure a Google search of some of the places you identify that meet your criteria will help you nail the ones that are hiring teachers. The other thing to look at is teaching positions in private schools which may not pay as much but likely have a less hostile working environment.
killer69
02-15-2011, 12:23 PM
I would think long and hard about leaving, I have had friends in Canada that moved away from Vancouver to a cheaper area, after a few years they could never afford to move back.
Who ever said you could afford to live here is on the pipe!!!unless your supplying the pipe filler! average home cost here is 750-800. AVERAGE
Ishmael
02-15-2011, 06:39 PM
Problem is teachers make jack squat in the states - they aren't appreciated. I live in Ontario. Its colder than a witches tit but its been said we have the third best education system in the world. The pay is great but its based on years and education. She should be able to get certified here but why would you want to live here when you could live on the gulf coast of Florida. My sister lived there; she's a teacher and she said they need teachers. They pay as well as anywhere else if not better, the cost of living is low and the realestate is depressed. It seems like every other guy on this board is from there. You can drive your car year round - that's reason enough. Plus its friggin paradise. If I could convince my wife to move away from her mother I would already be there.
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