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piratebaseball
02-08-2011, 07:36 PM
I've done a search and couldn't find the answer that I was looking for. I have a 67 camaro that I am doing a frame off restoration on. The car may never be raced on a track but I love a good performing ride that isn't too rough and that will still hook if I run it at the 1/8th mile. I'm want the best bang for the buck. Budget really doesn't matter if it is worth it. I know people will ask those questions so hopefully I've answered them. Now my question, the 67 has parallel shocks. Is it worth it because of the shocks on a 67 to g-bar or g-link it or is it ok to put on a set of hotchkis or dse leaf springs and go from there. I have installed DSE's mini tubs as well. I've thought about DSE springs with caltrec bars. Or possibly the g-link unit from Frank at Prodigy. Just looking for everybody's opinion. Thanks guys!

bret
02-09-2011, 05:42 AM
Our AirBar has worked well at the strip on our Velocity Camaro and many others. It can be used with the ShockWaves our our new coilovers. Velocity ran fast dragstrip time at hte Run Through the Hill event a couple of years ago. I think it was a 7.96 1/8th mile time.

http://www.ridetech.com/garage/1968-camaro-velocity/

http://www.ridetech.com/store/suspension-components/airbar/1967-1969-chevy-camaro-firebird-airbar-systems.html

BMR Tech
02-09-2011, 01:43 PM
If you want bang for the buck it's really hard to beat a torque arm setup, especially when used for multi-purpose applications. Feature for feature, compare the following with other rear suspension designs:


Completely bolt-in design - no welding or fabrication needed. Some kits require major floorpan surgery while others require welding tabs. The BMR kit requires neither and simply bolts into place.
Bind-free articulating suspension via Delrin and spherical bearing bushed suspension links. A torque arm acts like a centrally located single "ladder bar". It counteracts axle counter-rotation like a ladder bar or traction bar while still allowing the rear suspension to articulate properly.
Adjustable ride height, adjustable pinion angle, adjustable roll center, adjustable instant center.
Kits available for 10 Bolt, 12 Bolt, and Ford 9" applications.
BMR uses a true Watts link to locate the rearend instead of a panhard bar. Mounted in double-shear fashion and machined from 6061 aluminum, the watts link pivots on fluted delrin bushings and connects via polyurethane and rod end link arms.
Powdercoat comes standard. Some kits are displayed powdercoated yet when purchased, it is an added cost.


https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/02/TAS001_image2_large-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/12/TAS001_large-1.jpg

For more information, Images and pricing, visit our webpage HERE (http://www.bmrsuspension.com/index.cfm?page=products&vehicleid=3&maincatid=25&catid=77&productid=231).

john5670
02-09-2011, 04:02 PM
The best bang for your buck is going to be Hotchkis drop leaf springs with caltrac bars. This will give the ability to hook up, but to be honest the ride isn't that great. We are upgrading our 1967 Firebird to the Prodigy 4-Link. If you want to save money I will sell you 3" drop Hotchkis leaf springs and QA1 shocks used, but in perfect shape for a great deal. If you don't like it you can always upgrade. If you have anymore questions send me a message.

piratebaseball
02-10-2011, 11:31 AM
I have looked at the G-Link as well. I've thought about just using DSE springs but am worried about wheel hop with the shocks not being staggered. Just trying to get everybody's opinion and do research.

ErikLS2
02-10-2011, 12:29 PM
I can tell you I don't have any street driving experience with any of these suspensions but I have done some research. I changed my mind to a coil over suspension from leafs a little bit later in my project but if I was where you were at, I would do the Art Morrison rear 4-bar subframe that replaces the stock rear frame rails all together. I liked the idea of not attaching all that suspension stuff to those thin sheet metal frame rails not really designed for it in the first place. On the other hand, a lot of guys have been really hard on these suspensions with original frame rails with no problems.

TheJDMan
02-10-2011, 02:26 PM
I can tell you I don't have any street driving experience with any of these suspensions but I have done some research. I changed my mind to a coil over suspension from leafs a little bit later in my project but if I was where you were at, I would do the Art Morrison rear 4-bar subframe that replaces the stock rear frame rails all together. I liked the idea of not attaching all that suspension stuff to those thin sheet metal frame rails not really designed for it in the first place. On the other hand, a lot of guys have been really hard on these suspensions with original frame rails with no problems.

This is exactly what I was concerned about too. But as you said a lot of people have driven a lot of cars with the bolt on 4links with no problem. I'm still trying to decide between the Art Morrison 4link rear frame or the Prodigy 4link.

DButler
02-10-2011, 06:18 PM
I am not trying to highjack the thread but I have a few questions. I have a 67 Camaro and I am looking to go with the Heidts setup for one it will do what I need and it is a cheaper than the others. Is it a good setup for the money and can you still run a stock style fuel tank with it?

piratebaseball
02-11-2011, 06:10 AM
I've heard that the ride quality is a lot worse with the hotchkis leaf springs than the detroit speed springs. Does anybody have any experience with this? I would also like to hear reviews of the tci and heidts 4 link.

DButler
02-11-2011, 07:36 AM
I like the way the BMR setup looks, will it work with a stock style gas tank? and whats price for setup above?

Vinz68
02-11-2011, 08:39 AM
Our AirBar has worked well at the strip on our Velocity Camaro and many others. It can be used with the ShockWaves our our new coilovers. Velocity ran fast dragstrip time at hte Run Through the Hill event a couple of years ago. I think it was a 7.96 1/8th mile time.

http://www.ridetech.com/garage/1968-camaro-velocity/

http://www.ridetech.com/store/suspension-components/airbar/1967-1969-chevy-camaro-firebird-airbar-systems.html

Yup and I ran a 7.97 with the same suspension!

piratebaseball
02-11-2011, 09:40 AM
What are the size dimensions for the tanks on the air ride suspension?

marolf101x
02-11-2011, 09:47 AM
You can find our tank options with dimensions here:
http://www.ridetech.com/store/musclecar/suspension-components-musclecar/?subcats=Y&features_hash=V220

If you don't want to put it on air we now offer coil over options as well:
http://www.ridetech.com/store/musclecar/suspension-components-musclecar/ridetech-coilovers-musclecar/

We are currently fitting all of our "vehicle specific" applications which are not yet on the web. If you are interested just call our sales staff and they can help you choose the correct components for your application.

DButler
02-14-2011, 01:25 PM
Will the BMR suspension work with stock style fuel tank.

AintQik
02-14-2011, 01:44 PM
I'll let BMR answer, but I called them and they told me yes. It was a big deciding factor between selling my leafs and going this route. Narrowed tank is expensive. If I didn't need to buy one, the BMR was a more attractive option. So I asked and they told me yes. Hope they are right cause I sold all my stuff today.

DButler
02-14-2011, 04:14 PM
Yeah I just puchased a glenns tank for my turbo setup and it was pricey so this could be a deciding factor for me as well. The BMR looks to be very nice.

DButler
02-14-2011, 07:05 PM
After looking and talking to a few people for the money the Heidts seems to be the way to go.

johnny68
02-14-2011, 08:35 PM
you should check out speed tech or at least call blake
john

BMR Tech
02-15-2011, 10:07 AM
Will the BMR suspension work with stock style fuel tank.

Yes, the torque arm setup works with the factory tank. You would only need a narrowed tank if you had mini-tubs installed with a 12" or 13" wide wheel. The deeper offset wheel crowds the exhaust routing and requires a narrowed tank to free up some room.