Which paint guns work better?

[WELTERRACER]

DOes gravity feed guns or suction guns work better??

[ProdigyCustoms]

Sata gravity, period!

[Happyfunballs]

I second that.

[Travis B]

Third :headbang:

[rockdogz]

What about Taiwainese knock-offs? The local shop has a Sata look-alike for $195 (ABG or AVG or something like that). Will these do the job for an occasional spray or should I stay away from them?

[68protouring454]

i agree sata gravity
jake

[Happyfunballs]

If you plan to rarely use a spray gun, then it wouldn't make sense to spend $400 for a gun. Those cheapy guns will be fine as long as your aren't aiming for perfection.....they will certainly get you by. However, if you plan to paint one car and want to enter it in W.O.W......get the good stuff. Just my thoughts.

[J2speedandcustom]

I use a separate one for each stage. A cheap one for primer, and little better for color and a sata for clear. Also a Sata mini-jet for the tight spots makes life easier.

[Duesey]

Gravity feeds are alot less trouble than a siphon but I have a couple old devilbiss MBC's that I used to use and I still haven't came across a gun that has a pattern like these old ones. I see them on the big auction site all the time for 20 bucks. They also make a great primer gun since they can spray some thick stuff. For the average guy I think high pressure guns are easier to use since HVLP tend to spray on the dry side. I went from the mbc's to a devilbiss high pressure gun that ran $120 and painted some great cars with it. I use a devilbiss GTI for clear now and to be honest a paint job with the siphon fed mbc or gravity fed GTI look the same. I think it has a lot more to do with compensating your spray style to what your gun produces than what gun you have. I don't recommend buying china crap though. Stick with the name brands and you get a quality gun no matter what you spend. My touch up gun is a sharpe finex for $70 bucks and it does a heck of a job.

[68fusion]

Try the sata rp for color then the devilbiss plus for clear...it's a rp gun that has good TE and high cap pressure for a rp gun...It will make a great painter out of anyone...

[gtome]

I did my first 2 paint jobs with a cheap gun, and they turned out...ok. Then I bought the SATA 2000 digital and couldnt believe the difference! Hard to believe that my third paint job could probly win shows. I guess you get what you pay for. The paint just looks so much better. It also lays clears really nicely. I almost CANT get it to orange peel ( I tried on my last job when I was doing collision work, trying to match the original paint). I also dont think I would use a real cheap gun for primer, paint only looks as good as whats under it.

[chicane67]

I throw in on the SATA.... I have never painted better. I love their "touch up guns" even for moderate sized projects.... but for a body, their full size would be the ticket.

[Duesey]

I can't see what it matters how the primer goes on as long as it's blocked. I mean a bottom dollar gun like the finex or finish line work great for primer. The 53' Eldorado I painted over the winter didn't seem to mind nor does the 61' 300G I'm doing now.

[Hacker Joe]

just to throw in another option to SATA look at an IWATA LPH400, I own 6 SATA's and tried an IWATA once and will never buy another brand of gun.

[69Rathead]

I have several Iwata Airbrushes and an Iwata mini gun and I can say I absolutely love them all! But I have never tried Sata so I cannot compare them. I only have used my Iwata mini gun for Snowboards etc. never on a car. On a large gun which model spray gun is more forgiving for a new user? An HVLP or a high pressure? I plan on going with Iwata either the LPH400 (HVLP) or the W400 (HPsi). Seems like the HVLP would be easier to get runs with? Or does it go on drier like mentioned above? Sorry Welter not trying to Hijack your thread hopefully my questions will help you too!I

[ProdigyCustoms]

just to throw in another option to SATA look at an IWATA LPH400, I own 6 SATA's and tried an IWATA once and will never buy another brand of gun.

We just got a LPH400 to try for Prodigy, holy **** is is the snap! I am sold, told me paint rep he can't coe around if he is going to keep making my buy guns. My RP is now my base gun. And best of all the Iwata is only list $375 VS nearly $600 for the RP.

[ProdigyCustoms]

just to throw in another option to SATA look at an IWATA LPH400, I own 6 SATA's and tried an IWATA once and will never buy another brand of gun.

We just got a W 400 to try for Prodigy, holy **** is it the snap! I am sold, told me paint rep he can't come around if he is going to keep making my buy guns. My RP is now my base gun. And best of all the Iwata is only list $375 VS nearly $600 for the RP.

[69Rathead]

So which Iwata do you like better or which one is easier to use between them? I'm buying one soon so I need to make a choice go with the LPH or the W?

[68protouring454]

the w400 is a killer clear gun, as its a bit faster then the lph300, it uses 29 psi at the gun where as the 300 uses 19-21 psi, if i had both i would use the 300 for base and the 400 for clear, if i were going to buy one i would go with the w400 very similer to the sata rp but with more atomization and pattern
jake

[69Rathead]

Thanks for the advice! I have been looking at the W400 pretty hard just was not sure if it would be easier or harder to use than the LPh400 HVLP version. In general is it easier or harder painting with HVLP guns than a standard?. I like the idea of less overspray/vapor so if it's a wash on how hard HVLP or standard is to use i'll just go with HVLP and keep the overspray down.

[68protouring454]

the lph400 is not really a hvlp, there a lowpressure high volume gun, the w 400 is like the sata rp, its reduced pressure around 30 psi, but more like a conventional gun, and really it comes down to the painter on what he likes. now if your spraying at home the lphv400 would be best as you want about 20 psi at the gun so it will have alot less overspray then the w 400, . its just a slow gun for clear, i like a fast gun, but there are plenty of guys out there using it for clear.
good luck
jake

[JoshStratton]

the w400 is a killer clear gun, as its a bit faster then the lph300, it uses 29 psi at the gun where as the 300 uses 19-21 psi, if i had both i would use the 300 for base and the 400 for clear, if i were going to buy one i would go with the w400 very similer to the sata rp but with more atomization and pattern
jake

I have been keeping an eye out for a gun that I can use with my air compressor. Would you recommend these for a person who doesnt have an industry compressor, but a little shop 6HP model? I would really like a good low volume compressor, but they are just too hard to find.

OOPS! NEVERMIND. I DIDNT SEE THE 2ND PAGE. SORRY.

[68protouring454]

you will have to look at specs on gun most hvlps need 10-12 cfm at 90 psi, most small compressors do not even have that,
jake