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overZealous1
12-26-2010, 04:18 PM
nabbed up an 08 tahoe 5.3. defunct the dod system (replaced lifters, lifter trays, and 09 vette vented valley cover. trans is modded viper t56 set up for ls.
retrolsx oil pan. engine mounts are solid and have the engine set in neutral position. trans crossmember will need some work to mount up. pan still hangs down and so does trans, so will be cutting out the top of trans tunnel and lifting drivetrain about an inch or so and adding 1/4" plate for a skid plate under pan. my car will be slammed, so will not be necessary for everyone. will probably also remove body bushings and bolting the subframe directly on to get the body lower over the front end without sacrificing ride height (which i will be setting at about 2.5"!!)
decided to keep the truck accessories due to the fact i am running a 4" cowl hood. it also made room for the edelbrock proflo intake. radiator will be a dual pass, so both my inlet and outlet will be on the passenger side making plumbing simple and clean.
ok, so there is the basic layout of engine placement for those looking to do the same. now the turbo set up-

wanted to use truck manifolds because, well hell, they are super cheap and they have been proven to make 1550rwhp without cracking. i simply flipped them around and cut the big stock flanges off. will have someone weld on some 2.5" mild steel (only way to reliably do it) and then can weld the mild steel to a s.s. v-band. you can see how close they come to the valve covers (which are of the tall variety) so not much room is wasted at all.
the turbo's are gt35r's. ball bearing and oil and water cooled. each good for about 500hp. turbine outlet is also set up for 3" v-band. inlet is normal t3. compressor inlet 4", outlet 2.5".
after lots of thought, my mock up placement is about the most effiecient way i could find. for those running rack and pinion steering you would have a little more option, but not much if you were using the truck style manifolds.
intercooler is a dual 2.5" inlet with a 3" outlet. i used a conversion 3"-4" elbow to come off the intercooler , then the maf is located off that hiding in front of the core support. i cut a 4" hole in the core support then 2 simple 90 degree 4" elbows into the engine.
once turbo brackets are made i will show how simple the compressor outlet plumbing will be using 2 more 90's going through the core support again. total length from turbo to engine will be roughly 5-6'. turbo's will spool fast also. turbo lag should be almost unnoticeable.
oil line routing, water line routing and obviously finishing the hot and cold sides will be happening very soon!

just wanted to post up a 67 ls twin turbo set up as i couldn't find too much step by step wise. in all honesty, with using a stock truck motor, truck manifolds, you can get away cheaper than doing a 500hp n/a build. i am shooting for mid 500rwhp on this engine. once rest of car is done i will enjoy it with the stock engine at that level, while building another engine. simple engine swap, all your routing is already done, whammy, crank it to 900+rwhp!!!!

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DButler
12-26-2010, 07:28 PM
Check out the pic of mine on the carb hat post on this forum. Mine is blow through though sbc, but I used stainless truck manifolds to build mine. Its gonna make about 500 to 550 rwhp and then I am going to build a stroker for it and up it a little.

DJW32
12-27-2010, 11:44 AM
Those GT35 turbos may be a little laggy with that 5.3. Those turbos will really benefit from more cubic inch's. I saw a 427 produce some HUGE numbers with those turbos. Very cool build. Thanks for sharing. Please keep us up to date on the progress.

Nessumsar
12-27-2010, 12:45 PM
Very interested to see how this turns out, I (hopefully) will be doing the exact same thing!

overZealous1
12-28-2010, 06:37 PM
the ball bearing part will help with spool a little bit. went with this size so i would have room to turn the boost up on the second built engine and not have to redo anything. just a simple longblock change and go. in the mean time, 550-600rwhp on this engine should suffice, lol

overZealous1
01-13-2011, 08:45 PM
little progress. ran into issues with my suspension and wheel combo and brake system. all needed to be addressed before continuing with the turbos. needed to move the turbos abit. think this is pretty much the final home. everything is just in mock up/see what works faze. was trying to keep the look symetrical. except for the intake tube going off center, it is looking pretty good.
crappy cell pics. better ones once i start welding up stuff.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/01/IMG00417201101121920-1.jpg
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DJW32
01-17-2011, 10:56 AM
Does that intake or alternator stick out of the engine compartment?

overZealous1
01-17-2011, 06:46 PM
it sure does. i have my body bushings removed too though. i am running a 4" cowl hood. might be able to get away with a 2" though.

Nessumsar
03-09-2011, 01:03 PM
Any progress Scott?

Chevy406
03-11-2011, 08:14 AM
I love the symmetry of your turbo layout. The one thing that just sticks out too much is the alternator. Any thought of putting it below the driver's side turbo? I did a notch in the crossmember on my '69 Nova to keep the alternator down low. Now I am going with an aftermarket subframe, so I'm back to square one on layout with the turbos and alternator. Thanks for posting your pictures. Gives me lots of ideas.

My 408 with Corvette C6 exhaust manifolds - low mount alternator:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/02/DSC_0830-1.jpg

Here is my alternator location with stock Nova subframe that was notched:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/03/DSC_1090-1.jpg

overZealous1
05-20-2011, 07:57 PM
havn't touched the thing in a few months. now the weather getting nicer again i will be out in the garage more!! have finally figured out final turbo positioning though, and it is a few inches back from my pics. since getting my wheels, i am basically reverse engineering the whole car to get the look i want. inside turning radius and a-arm clearance were all huge factors and still having room to build inner fenders, while keeping the turbos and plumbing symmetrical looking and clean flow going into turbos. really was a tall order, but even the down pipes and wastegates will be equal. a 1/4" in any direction and something would have been off! more pics with progress

overZealous1
05-20-2011, 08:01 PM
i agree the alt looks kind of retarded. but i'm running ps too, and a/c. once the turbo mock up is done, i will take a look and see if i can reposition anything, but chances are going to be slim. alot of the motor and parts will be going black, so it will be not soooo prodominant. may just have to live with it. i'll see what i can come up with.

overZealous1
08-20-2011, 05:37 PM
well work has kept me super busy the last few months, but finally back on the car. have done some measuring and temp placements and looks like i can do my own acc. drive set up pretty easy. will keep everything low. using a remote resevoir for ps so the pump itself will be relatively small. alt can go low and same with a/c. will post pics as i go. need to order all parts i need. may get rid of auto tensioner also. may make an adjustable stationary tensioner. hopefully they make the new belt length i need, but that should not be a problem.

Speedy911
09-11-2011, 08:52 AM
That is a very cool setup. Would love to hear how it sounds when its up and running.

ajg87
10-09-2011, 07:58 PM
I dont know what it is about boost that makes me have these crazy thoughts...

opnwide
10-10-2011, 02:22 PM
I think you're doing a great job on this build. I, too, would have gone with smaller turbos though. I've got GT3040s on my 455 T/A 4spd. Normally I run 10lbs boost and that scares me, but once I hooked the vac lines up wrong and saw 16psi! That should have been good for 1000hp! I know I spun my 335 Kumhos in 3rd gear from 50mph to 95mph!
I think those GT35s are good for at least 600hp each.

overZealous1
10-25-2011, 11:21 AM
thats kind of what i was hoping for. haha. this engine is still pretty much for mock up. trying to concentrate on getting everything set up and whole car finished so i can drive it around on low boost while i am building another engine to handle more boost. at that point, it will be a simple long block change, instead of a having to redo the turbo set up with larger turbos.
alot of my tubing is welded up now with just the final weld to the cast iron left. using a wilwood remote resevoir pedal set up, and need to place that to run exhaust on drivers side. have now moved onto body work though and that will keep me busy for months.