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Bill Howell
12-20-2010, 09:34 PM
OK Guys, Everything is set, registration is officially open. All years, cars are welcomed, though we prefer American rear wheel drive.
Remember, this is a no refund event, we will run rain or shine. If you buy a spot and then can not make it, it is up to you to sell your spot. I simply don't have the time to be the broker. As all my events go, selling a spot has never been a problem, we always have a waiting list. This event is open to the first 60 PAID spots. You must go to my paypal, and pay or pm me for my address if you prefer sending check or money order. Your spot is not reserved until payment.
Thanks guys, this will be a huge event and we are looking forward to it, see everyone there.
Here is the link:

https://www.pro-touring.com/events/rtts/form.php

69fbodyproject
12-21-2010, 02:33 PM
Since the days off work for once is there an issue with abusing a rent a wreck? Might be able to make one event this year even if it means flying in and running something that isnt mine. Id love to do run to the coast, but the days cant possible work with my job and the time of the year being right in the middle of our busiest season.

Bill Howell
12-21-2010, 03:19 PM
Since the days off work for once is there an issue with abusing a rent a wreck? Might be able to make one event this year even if it means flying in and running something that isnt mine. Id love to do run to the coast, but the days cant possible work with my job and the time of the year being right in the middle of our busiest season.

What you do with your rental car is between you and your rental company..... We don't check pink slips.

gtncpa
12-22-2010, 11:10 AM
Is this event eligible for track insurance? How many sessions will there be?

Bill Howell
12-22-2010, 11:16 AM
Is this event eligible for track insurance? How many sessions will there be?

Not sure what you are asking. The track is providing required insurance for their property, etc, but insurance on your car usually stops the minute you are on the track, check with your policy.

As a general rule, from what people are telling me, generally they run in groups and get 4 to 5 twenty minute sessions a day on the big track. We will be working with the track with their normal setup and then the groups not running the big track will be over getting in their autocross laps. If we run 15 car groups, we should be at about 4 groups, maybe 5 with vendors, so I think we will be on track here.

gtncpa
12-22-2010, 11:25 AM
When I do most track days I buy track day insurance. Its about $125.00 per $20,000 insured. If you want I could see if they would cover a pro-tour day.

Last time I was on track at Monticello Motor sports with an Exotic car club ... a few bit the dust. Here is a pic of one guy I took that wished he got track insurance.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/12/73477_10150305120620083_797630082_156595-1.jpg

GNon18s
12-22-2010, 04:01 PM
Would I need to attend a driving school if I have never been on a road course or do I just pay the $225 and bring my helmet? I've been using an 02' Zo6 as a daily driver for a couple years but really have the itch to get on a road course with it. Im in Pa so this event sounds very do-able to me.

gtncpa
12-22-2010, 04:17 PM
I am sure their will be instructors. On most HPDE days the helmet has to be Snell 2000 rated or better. Track days are not races ... As every instructor stresses ... check your ego at the door and learn to drive and have fun. The Ferrari in the above pic could have been saved if he just listen to his instructor, but he felt that if he spent over 200K on a car .. he knew how to drive.

S1NISTER 87GN
12-22-2010, 05:47 PM
No Spectators?

tazzz25906112
12-22-2010, 08:33 PM
When I do most track days I buy track day insurance. Its about $125.00 per $20,000 insured. If you want I could see if they would cover a pro-tour day.

Last time I was on track at Monticello Motor sports with an Exotic car club ... a few bit the dust. Here is a pic of one guy I took that wished he got track insurance.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/12/73477_10150305120620083_797630082_156595-1.jpg

I'd sure like to know more about this insurance and who to contact about buying it on a regular basis,,, drop me a line at [email protected] if you wouldn't mind...
Thanks,
Albert

Bill Howell
12-22-2010, 08:42 PM
Would I need to attend a driving school if I have never been on a road course or do I just pay the $225 and bring my helmet? I've been using an 02' Zo6 as a daily driver for a couple years but really have the itch to get on a road course with it. Im in Pa so this event sounds very do-able to me.

We will group people with like skills together as much as possible. After the first session, I feel we will move people around so people running similar times will be together. This does too things. First it keeps the slower guys out of the fast guys way, Second the slower guys are not nearly as nervous since no one is eating their rear and pushing them out of the way.

SicMonte
12-22-2010, 10:19 PM
We will group people with like skills together as much as possible. After the first session, I feel we will move people around so people running similar times will be together. This does too things. First it keeps the slower guys out of the fast guys way, Second the slower guys are not nearly as nervous since no one is eating their rear and pushing them out of the way.

Thank you for posting that Bill!!! I have some track experiance in a 1983 Spec RX7...but non in my monte. I was worried that I would be holding up the "faster" guys.....

crainholio
12-29-2010, 11:56 AM
Will we be working corner flag stations, or are workers being hired?

Yelcamino
12-29-2010, 02:17 PM
Bill,

Are you going to start a list of whose signed up on this thread?

69fbodyproject
12-29-2010, 09:16 PM
Registration page won't allow me to add my info to registar bill. Any help?

vette427-sbc
12-30-2010, 04:47 PM
Bill,

Are you going to start a list of whose signed up on this thread?

Id like to know how many spots are available too... Still not sure if my car will be ready by then. Or, if it is ready, if I will have the funds to go :nopity:

I assume we can go down anyway if we didnt register to watch?

Bill Howell
12-30-2010, 05:33 PM
I am working on the spreadsheet on who is coming and will post it soon. A couple have registered today, I think we have 32 signed up? Registration page worked for me, not sure what the issue was earlier. If it continues for you pm or email me.

Morgan
01-10-2011, 06:05 PM
I have been following the thread and see a bunch of posts asking about On Track coverage. That is what I specialize in and can provide the coverage on a package basis. We offer annual insurance policies where you choose how many track events you want to participate in per year (we offer packages of 5, 10, 15 & 20 events). Shoot me an email at [email protected] if you are interested and I'll email you back our 1 page application.

Morgan
01-10-2011, 06:22 PM
I am sure their will be instructors. On most HPDE days the helmet has to be Snell 2000 rated or better. Track days are not races ... As every instructor stresses ... check your ego at the door and learn to drive and have fun. The Ferrari in the above pic could have been saved if he just listen to his instructor, but he felt that if he spent over 200K on a car .. he knew how to drive.

Ohh, and a quick note in regards to helmets. Snell 2000 expired in October of 2010. You will need a Snell 2005 or newer to pass any track day tech.

SicMonte
01-10-2011, 06:40 PM
check your email!

Morgan
01-22-2011, 03:14 PM
Registered and looking forward to it.

John McIntire
01-26-2011, 06:47 AM
Whats the deal with spectators? Can we just come down to check out the cars and watch the action?

Bill Howell
01-26-2011, 06:50 AM
Spectators are welcomed and wanted! There will be a gate fee for coming and we are working on that price now, but by all means come and bring your friends. There was some confusion about this early in the game, my fault, but yes we want people there and they have room at the track for spectators.

69projectKAOS
02-04-2011, 04:37 PM
any spots left ? -Dom

gtncpa
02-05-2011, 05:37 PM
Paid! I am looking forward this!

LV42DAY
02-11-2011, 10:19 PM
I'm going :). may not race depending on rules but i will be there.

you should add the name of the city and state its being held at in the thread topic. i found this out just because i reading someone's build thread and caught wind of it towards the end. pure luck really. i wouldn't have paid it any mind but then i read "vineland" and realized they were talking about vineland, nj where they will be staying (which just so happens to be my home town)

paintitblack08
02-22-2011, 06:01 AM
WooHoo! All signed up and paid for!

Doing Friday and Saturday!

And no sadly it won't be in the good 'ole '81 Z...it's gonna be in my '00 SS. Been working on it all winter so hopefully it runs well.

Can't wait to see everyone!

Bill Howell
02-22-2011, 06:50 AM
Thanks Payden and the others that have signed up lately. We are at 58 people now. WOW! not bad for a brand new event. I think the cut off will be 70, so if you want in, now is the time to make the commitment. I am in California this week for RTTC, but still get my notices so let me know if you need something. Look for announcements next week as we get close.

LV42DAY
03-01-2011, 08:13 PM
whats the count at? debating on a roll bar... might participate afterall.

gtncpa
03-02-2011, 05:42 AM
I just ordered my full face helmet. (Ugh ... .damn NJ) But I am ready!

Bill Howell
03-03-2011, 06:44 PM
OK guys, RTTC is over and done, RTTS is next. I have 59 people registered. I will take 6 more people only. PLEASE sign up in the next week if you want to attend. After that the registration will be closed and the field will be set.
Looking forward to this new event, see everyone soon.

Bill Howell
03-03-2011, 06:44 PM
OK guys, RTTC is over and done, RTTS is next. I have 59 people registered. I will take 6 more people only. PLEASE sign up in the next week if you want to attend. After that the registration will be closed and the field will be set.
Looking forward to this new event, see everyone soon.

gtncpa
03-03-2011, 07:23 PM
Great job Bill!

SicMonte
03-03-2011, 07:58 PM
Can't wait. Just making sure that Kim and I are regisdtered...

Kim = cruise and carting.
Doug = cruise, track day/autocross, carting.

Kim will drive her car to the track on saturday and will be a spectator.

lvrpool32
03-04-2011, 05:57 AM
One of the guys coming down with me has asked me about his kids. Do they allow kids (10 and 13) at these events? I guess they want to see daddy drive his race car! :-)

Nick

Bill Howell
03-04-2011, 02:39 PM
OK, I missed counted. as of right now, and this doesn't include any vendors, my car, Mike's car
Friday cruise-42
Dinner-74
Sat-55
Sund-18

Bill Howell
03-04-2011, 06:04 PM
Answers to questions
2000 helmets are going to be OK.....as far as we know now. This is the last year for 2000 so it would not be a bad idea to update your helmets but we are being told 2000 will be OK.

Children can come watch, no one under 10. Their parents will have to sign a release. They can be counted as crew, remember 3 people per car. After that anyone else has to pay at the gate.

The Stickman
03-04-2011, 08:15 PM
Any update on the cruise/dinner?

SicMonte
03-04-2011, 10:05 PM
Can't wait. Just making sure that Kim and I are regisdtered...

Kim = cruise and carting.
Doug = cruise, track day/autocross, carting.

Kim will drive her car to the track on saturday and will be a spectator.

When I say cruise...I mean cruise and the dinner. Just wanted to clarify.

81blacktiez28
03-05-2011, 07:05 AM
cant wait. breaking in the new ls3 this week. maybe a run to montauk for some clam chowder. im gonna use the pot holes as cones!

gtncpa
03-05-2011, 01:01 PM
cant wait. breaking in the new ls3 this week. maybe a run to montauk for some clam chowder. im gonna use the pot holes as cones!

Count me in on the Montauk run! What is your favorite chowder place on Montauk?

Vinz68
03-05-2011, 01:54 PM
Let me know about the Montauk run. I'm in Hampton Bays. Ill cruise out there with you guys

cobragt
03-06-2011, 09:27 AM
is there a reason why it says spectators not allowed on the registration page? I have a friend up in Jersey that wanted to go and watch.

LV42DAY
03-06-2011, 06:33 PM
it was a mistake. SPECTATORS ARE WELCOME. there will simply be a entrance fee. i think it is like 10 bucks a person. someone please correct me if I am wrong on the price.

cobragt
03-06-2011, 10:27 PM
it was a mistake. SPECTATORS ARE WELCOME. there will simply be a entrance fee. i think it is like 10 bucks a person. someone please correct me if I am wrong on the price.

Thank you!

81blacktiez28
03-09-2011, 02:48 PM
vinnie, gossmans dock open this time of year for chowder? is there a better place? just waiting for the rain to wash away all the sand.

gtncpa
03-09-2011, 04:30 PM
My last visit to Montauk at Christmas 2010.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/03/154602_1618708359841_1600374585_1430514_-1.jpg
Maybe we can get a bite to eat at Shagwong Restaurant. Mmm Mmm good. The family really loved it!

http://www.shagwong.com/about-us.html

81blacktiez28
03-24-2011, 01:51 AM
sorry i havent gotten back to you guys, been working on the car every night to get it ready. should start her up this weekend. gonna have to take a day off from work to break in the motor. just dont know what day. any info on fridays cruise? what time will you guys be there friday?

Norm Peterson
03-27-2011, 03:35 PM
Answers to questions
2000 helmets are going to be OK.....as far as we know now. This is the last year for 2000 so it would not be a bad idea to update your helmets but we are being told 2000 will be OK.
Is that SA2000 or is M2000 OK?


Norm

gtncpa
03-27-2011, 03:38 PM
M2000's are not allowed on NASA and SCCA track days. I would think they would not be allowed at NJMP either.

GNon18s
03-27-2011, 08:46 PM
I wasnt sure about the SA2000 vs M2000. My helmets say M2000 on the inside. I was assuming the 2000 part was what mattered. I dont know what the SA or M means?

GNon18s
03-27-2011, 09:01 PM
I wasnt sure about the SA2000 vs M2000. My helmets say M2000 on the inside. I was assuming the 2000 part was what mattered. I dont know what the SA or M means?

Ok, so the SA is for "automotive" and the M is for "motorcycle". ..And the difference is the fire rating (SA being more fire resistant).

Norm Peterson
03-28-2011, 03:02 AM
The year matters because new standards are issued every 5 years, and helmets meeting the current or two immediately preceding standards seems to be the general rule. I do know that SCCA Solo (autocross) still accepts M2000's.


There are other differences between 'M' and 'SA' - more information here
http://www.racinghelmetguide.com/auto-helmet-ratings.html


Norm

tazzz25906112
03-29-2011, 04:36 PM
Well in a break with tradition (and a peace offering to my wife seeing how I just got home from the last trip yesterday LOL) I'll fly into JFK Thursday evening and drive in the rest of the way on Friday Morning...

Scott, did you let April know about the event??? I'm sure she'd love to attend and I may even let her give it a go in one of my cars if she shows up..... Who knows maybe she'd run that pretty little Monica,,,, wouldn't that be a blast.... Anyways I'll look forward to seeing you in a few days pal....

BonzoHansen
03-29-2011, 04:48 PM
Well in a break with tradition (and a peace offering to my wife seeing how I just got home from the last trip yesterday LOL) I'll fly into JFK Thursday evening and drive in the rest of the way on Friday Morning...

Scott, did you let April know about the event??? I'm sure she'd love to attend and I may even let her give it a go in one of my cars if she shows up..... Who knows maybe she'd run that pretty little Monica,,,, wouldn't that be a blast.... Anyways I'll look forward to seeing you in a few days pal....

It's tax season, so she is usually not around right now. I'm lucky I told me at this point. I'll see you Friday.

vette427-sbc
03-29-2011, 04:55 PM
M2000's are not allowed on NASA and SCCA track days. I would think they would not be allowed at NJMP either.

Is it just the M2000's? or are no motorcycle helmets allowed at all

Bill Howell
03-29-2011, 05:24 PM
M helmets are not allowed at NJMP, period. I have said that for months. In NJ, from what I am told the state police control safety and they do not allow M helmets, which, IMO makes sense as M helmets don't protect your HEAD against FIRE! Come on guys, it is your HEAD how much is it worth to YOU?

Car is loaded, we leave early thirty heading north, see you guys soon.

As of right now, Cruise meeting place it Wingate parking lot at 3PM on Friday, rain or shine.
Be at track at 7AM Saturday Morning for track day.....

Morgan
03-30-2011, 04:44 AM
I'm mounting my snow tires now... see everyone Friday!

vette427-sbc
04-01-2011, 03:21 PM
Do we have to be there when the gates open at 7am? I thought it said the drivers meeting is at 8? Is there any thing going on before the drivers meeting at 8am that we need to be there for?

Norm Peterson
04-01-2011, 04:21 PM
Just based on autocross experience, I would plan on spending some time setting up and getting ready for tech. Loose stuff & floor mats out of the car, checking lugnut torque & tire pressures, etc. If the autocross course is open for walking, you'll want to get that in, too.


Norm

Bill Howell
04-01-2011, 05:17 PM
Do we have to be there when the gates open at 7am? I thought it said the drivers meeting is at 8? Is there any thing going on before the drivers meeting at 8am that we need to be there for?

Tech is from 7 to 8, need to get car ready and teched. Also we have run groups, you need to register with Melinda, get car numbers, etc if you haven't already. Then as Norm said, just good to go over the car, get your head into the game etc.

Yelcamino
04-02-2011, 05:22 PM
Does anyone know what time do we need to be at the track for the go-karts tomorrow?

Bill Howell
04-02-2011, 05:51 PM
9:30 Herb. I think we start carting at 10am, but want to be sure we are there in plenty of time.

Yelcamino
04-02-2011, 05:53 PM
Ok, cool! Thanks Bill; we'll see you there!

One more thing, how/when do we find out what our times on the road course were?

gtncpa
04-02-2011, 06:47 PM
Great event! My hats off to Bill and the crew. Here are to videos I took. One from the roll bar and one from the front bumper.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xD2EW9Cb4zw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5F1YfUSha8

Yelcamino
04-03-2011, 05:31 PM
My wife Carol took about 2000 pictures over the weekend!!! I looked at most of them and there are some real good ones. Tomorrow after work I'm going to go through and pick out the best ones and upload them to my Flicker account. I'll post the link ASAP!

gtncpa
04-03-2011, 06:19 PM
I have some more video to go thru. More than happy to share them .. even with the guys that waxed my @ss! :6gears:

GNon18s
04-03-2011, 06:38 PM
That was my first time on a big track so I can't even explain in words how much fun I had! I set my trip meter on my way into the facility saturday morning and when I was pulling out that afternoon I had 68miles on the car! The only way I can see next year being anymore fun is if passengers are allowed. I felt bad telling my wife she had to stand outside all day while I drove around by myself.

IMPREZvWRX
04-03-2011, 08:45 PM
Here are the results from the autocross portion of the day.

Autocross Results (http://home.comcast.net/~C.Houliaras/AutoX/RTTS/runtotheshoresplitraw.html)
Individual Runs (http://home.comcast.net/~C.Houliaras/AutoX/RTTS/runtotheshoresplitfin.html) - The software is limited to 20 passes, so some of you may have times cut off the results. If you like, send a message, and I'll dig the rest of your times up for you.

I just want to thank everyone for participating. You guys are a great crowd, and my crew and I had an awesome time at the event. Also, big kudos to all of you who have those beautiful machines and actually use them. I couldn't possibly imagine building a car of that caliber just to have it sit, however, I will admit I cringed a few times when a front air dam would eat a cone or two, but you guys just shrug it off and keep it pinned to the mat.

If anyone's interested, here's a video of some of my runs on the course.

ocbk-z9ONa4

Again, thank you, everyone!

SicMonte
04-03-2011, 08:54 PM
Here are the results from the autocross portion of the day.

Autocross Results (http://home.comcast.net/~C.Houliaras/AutoX/RTTS/runtotheshoresplitraw.html)

I just want to thank everyone for participating. You guys are a great crowd, and my crew and I had an awesome time at the event. Also, big kudos to all of you who have those beautiful machines and actually use them. I couldn't possibly imagine building a car of that caliber just to have it sit, however, I will admit I cringed a few times when a front air dam would eat a cone or two, but you guys just shrug it off and keep it pinned to the mat.

If anyone's interested, here's a video of some of my runs on the course.

ocbk-z9ONa4

Again, thank you, everyone!


We need to be the ones thanking you!!! You ran a great autocross!!

This was my first autocross in my monte and I am hooked!! I think you were the instructer who rode in my car. What a difference you made. Thanks again and see you next year!

IMPREZvWRX
04-03-2011, 09:03 PM
We need to be the ones thanking you!!! You ran a great autocross!!

This was my first autocross in my monte and I am hooked!! I think you were the instructer who rode in my car. What a difference you made. Thanks again and see you next year!
Thanks for the kind words. I wasn't instructing, but it was either Ahren or Bill who helped you out. I'll pass the word along. To this day, I still bring an instructor along after I get a run or two in to get input on my line and technique. Having the video also helps for future events. For instance, looking at my video above, I should have been on the gas a bit sooner coming out of those sweeping turns.

I look forward to next year!

sr73bu
04-04-2011, 03:42 AM
Yeah Thanks for the great autocross setup! I only had two runs (pulled right off the big track to the autocross, so car was getting hot) and my slow first lap was the only one that was recorded, LOL... can't wait to get out there next year and improve!

-Sean

Norm Peterson
04-04-2011, 04:44 AM
Why not bring it out to a couple of SCCA autocrosses this year?

You could probably run in novice class, but even if you end up running in the regular C-Prepared or E-Modified, it'll still be "seat time". South Jersey Region (the guys putting on the RTTS auto-X), North Jersey Region, and Philly Region all have events this year within fairly reasonable driving time of Central NJ. You would have to join SCCA, but dues are good for a year. www.autoX4u.com has an overall schedule.


And like Chris said, it's really satisfying to see these cars being driven around corners, and not gently so.


Norm

Norm Peterson
04-04-2011, 05:57 AM
pulled right off the big track to the autocross, so car was getting hot
I realize that you might have had other things on your mind at the time, but do you think that a 25 mph drive around the perimeter access road, maybe out to the main gate and back would have helped enough?

Norm

sr73bu
04-04-2011, 08:10 AM
I realize that you might have had other things on your mind at the time, but do you think that a 25 mph drive around the perimeter access road, maybe out to the main gate and back would have helped enough?

Norm


I pulled off the roadcourse and drove directly to the line at the autocross... the car ran cool on the roadcourse (180*) but as soon as it sits at idle (in line at the autocross) the temp goes up (215*-220*)... especially after flogging it...lol

The problem was no fan shroud... def putting one one this week...

The whole day was an absolute blast though!!!!

-Sean

vanzuuk1
04-04-2011, 05:33 PM
You guys ran a great show, thanks for letting me be a little stupid at the end..

Yelcamino
04-05-2011, 09:46 AM
By chance, did anyone get a copy of the road course times?

Morgan
04-05-2011, 09:52 AM
By chance, did anyone get a copy of the road course times?

I second this!

gtncpa
04-05-2011, 12:58 PM
NJMP posted some pics on Facebook!

The Stickman
04-05-2011, 01:47 PM
NJMP posted some pics on Facebook!

Now I am feeling all kinds of special.