Tina's 65 Mustang

[RobNoLimit]

I am blessed to have a really wonderfull wife. She puts up with all of my hot-rodding anticks, she love to riding on the harley, she even likes going to shows and track events. But she's had enough of the seat on the right. I've had a 65 coupe, that we bout for fitment/measuring some years ago, and when I asked her if she wanted it, she about knocked me down for the keys! A stock 'Stang is not really something I want my wife driving around in so-cal traffic, so we're starting a make-over project. The car is pretty staight and very solid. We started up front by building a new IFS with a rack, and disk brakes. Now I'm on the rear. I'm working on a two-link + torque arm, similar to a Meyers set up. We have a clean 347 stroker, and an aod trans, and I plan on using the EFI fron an 88-93 GT. Color,interior, and wheel choice is all up to her. - I will be adding a 6pt bar for safety and solid shoulder mounts. We'll get some picts up, should be running at Del-Mar in April.

[Northeast Rod Run]

Have to keep the wife happy.

[johnny68]

hey rob was good to see ya at the f100 western nats cruize cant wait to see the stang your f100 is awsome
john

[RobNoLimit]

We had a blast on the cruise. It was our first time driving the truck that far.

[RobNoLimit]

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[RobNoLimit]

Still getting the hang of the picture deal. here's some shots of the current progress. The IFS is one that I build, it bolts in to factory holes, and then is welded in. The nice thing is that the factory spring buckets come out. Lots more room in the engine bay. It's set up for a Fox body rear sump pan, and the motor is 1" back from stock. T-bird P/S rack. The subframe connectors are just .120" wall rect. tubing. The rear links fit into the stock front mounts, and I am almost done with the torque arm. I built it to use late model Mustang wheels, but not the ones currently on it, sexy as they are, they gotta go. I am on to the coil-overs and the panhard rod now. I'll do my best to keep posting picts.

[RobNoLimit]

Some pictures of the front wheel openings to get the ride height & track width with the wheel and tire we want. We had to raise the wheel openings 1 3/4". Rob made new ones from 18 gauge steel using a shrinker/stretcher and a hammer and dolly.

[droptop73]

Nice flares

[craigs73]

anymore progress here looks good

[RobNoLimit]

Wow, it's been a while, and I am guilty of letting this project slide into the back corner. A few weeks ago I started to re-organize some parts, and get ready to move forward. With the bulk of the fab work finished, it's time to plumb the brakes and fuel. I decided on a Hydro-Electric brake system from ABS for this car. Originally I was going to use a Hydro-Boost (in fact I have it) but I have a similar hydro-boost system in my '46 'vert, and in high usage situations (autocross) I have had it loose some of the steering assist, not good. This car will have more HP, brakes, and tires than the old 'vert, so I didn't want to risk it. The install of the master is a snap. Just bolts in, connects to the stock pedal. Plumbing is a little more involved, but not to bad. There is a accumulator and a pump, the accumulator is mounted just below the hood hinge, and the pump is in the small well behind the front tire. I fabbed a small cover panel to protect the pump.

[RobNoLimit]

Next was the fuel lines. Getting these to fit in tight and not hang below anything took some work. The car doesn't have much space under it. - not like a truck :) But, there in. 3/8" feed and return. I just need to make a small tab to mount the #6 bulkheads.

[RobNoLimit]

And next, the motor goes in. YEAH. 347 stroker with AFR heads, comp cam ... It's mild, at appx 425 hp, 395 tq, with a 2000 stall coverter and an AOD trans. The rear has 3.90 gears, with a final drive ratio of 2.83 in O.D. It should cruise at 70 around 2200 rpm. The oil pan is a Fox body Mustang pan, and the motor mounts come with the IFS kit.

[RobNoLimit]

To me this is one of the cool parts of the whole swap. I've had experience in the past of fitting headers and playing with spark plugs in old Mustangs, and it sucks. There just isn't much room. Here is a look at the available room now.

[bmbrzmn101]

Looking good Rob, Looking forward to more pix. You have quite abit of room now for headers. But I bet it will still suck putting them in. Something always get in the way with me.

Chris

[Jetfixr320]

Looks like Fox Body long tubes will drop in. Try BBK.
Build looks great. More info on your IFS. Do you sell them?

[RobNoLimit]

Thanks guys. We tried the BBK long tubes, and they did fit fine, but, they hung down about 3" below the front rail. So, we are waiting on a set of short tube headers from them now. Do we sell them - hmm, I guess so. Here's the scoop. We have been making these for about 4 yrs now. The IFS in Tina's 65 is the 3rd update, and at this point, we don't see any more revisions. The first one has over 20k miles on it, and works great, but we felt it needed a bit more caster available. The second design is under 5 cars, 3 on the road, working great. These cars all use a 4" stroke coil-over with a 10" spring. Now, just so you know, I believe in a high-travel, low roll set up. So I like to have 4" to 5" of static suspension compression at Ride Hieght. With the 4" shock we had 3.7" of static compression at RH, so for the last update, we re-worked the upper C/O mount to use a 5" stroke shock with a 12" spring. Now we are really happy with everything about the IFS. There are 6 cars out there with the 3rd gen design, 2 on the road, and a few weeks ago we did some testing on one of them at AMP and had great results. It's normal for us at No Limit to take a long time to get things to market. We want to build a few, and have people that we know install some. Then we want to drive them, for performance, braking, handling, ride quality, and then get some miles on them, as many as possible. We have a few more detail parts for them, like a 'Shelby' bar and bracing, and the hardware kit, and then we'll let them out to the public. Thanks for the interest.

[RobNoLimit]

Some updates
I started to work on the Vintage Air A/C install. The evap is in, and the plumbing is done. The interior wiring and vent tubing still to go. I am pretty impressed with the kit. All of the hard lines fit perfectly. Yes, it is a pain to get the evap bolted in. I swapped to a longer bolt through the firewall to get it started, that helped.

[RobNoLimit]

More progress. The new BBK headers showed up. A perfect fit. The pict for the pass side looks close, but there is almost an inch to the brake line, and we put a heat barrier patch over the line there. Then I started to run some exhaust. all of the tubing will tuck up nicely with nothing hanging below the sub rails.

[RobNoLimit]

I've been doing a lot of plumbing, and that means the tank needs to go in. We fabbed the tank to fit in to the stock opening, and use the stock fill. The tank is in two sections to help with fuel control. The EFI pump is a Walbro LS style. None of the tank hangs below the lower quarters, and I still have room for rear exit axhaust. - but it's getting a bit tight under the car.

[Jetfixr320]

I like the valve covers and the fuel tank, any pics of inside the tank? Baffles or compartments?

[RobNoLimit]

LOL, yeah, well , the pass side valve cover is what we're going to run. I'm not sure I have picts of the tank internals, but I can put up a drawing for you.

[Jetfixr320]

LOL, I didn't notice you only had one on. But, yes the passenger side is the one's I was referring to. Who makes them?

And drawings of the tank internals would be good. Thank you

[RobNoLimit]

The valve covers are from Ford Motorsport. They're pretty nice, good gasket surface, and a full baffle under the vent/pcv cap holes. Just sayin. I'm OK with primer, rust, a little dirt, .... but, if it rattles, squeeks or leaks, I have to stop and fix it.

[Bryce]

I see some pushrod rear suspension components!

[riles]

I see some pushrod rear suspension components!

Saw that too.

[Bryce]

Maier?

[RobNoLimit]

Yes, its a pushrod/rocker set up. To me the cool thing is that I built this appx 5 yrs ago, before I saw Mikes Mustang. Being really close to what Mike has done tells me I'm on the right track. There are lots of advantages, and the only drawback is the loss of a little trunk space.

[67redrocket]

Iam very courious on the pushrod rear susspension on this one!

[RobNoLimit]

Here is something I worked on today. The fan shroud. I added a bit of gingerbread with some holes and dimple dies. The shroud is fabbed from .090 aluminum, and will hold a 16" fan

[RobNoLimit]

Here's trick I do a lot when mounting a fan into the shroud. I use the little mount tabs that come with the fan, but I sand the just a bit so that I can install them 'up-side-down' in the channels. Then I epoxy the mount tab into the fan. This way I can mount the fan into the back side of the shroud. It looks a little cleaner.

[Munssey]

Looks like great progress. I hope to see it\ you & the wife at some local events in the area once it's running.

[opnwide]

If you're going to be sitting in LA traffic, you might want to fill those dippled holes so that the fan sucks air through the radiator and not from the engine compartment. A piece of flat black anything on the inside will give you the look you're after and keep you cool.

[Munssey]

If you're going to be sitting in LA traffic, you might want to fill those dippled holes so that the fan sucks air through the radiator and not from the engine compartment. A piece of flat black anything on the inside will give you the look you're after and keep you cool.
Or worse... 91 freeway traffic.

[RobNoLimit]

Well, progress is progress. I've been wiring and plumbing, and that's not very exciting for me. But, it needs to get done. I took a brake from that to finally assemble the front suspension. We used the Wilwood Pro spindle with 13" x 6 piston calipers. RideTech triple adjustable coil overs, 400 lb 10" springs. The sway bar links are made up from some more RideTech parts. The IFS has 7 1/2" of travel top to bottom. 1 1/2* of camber gain per inch, and a max of .035" of bump (out) at full compression. Anti-dive is 6* and the caster gain is .4*per inch. Base alignment will be -.6* camber, +6* caster, 1/8" toe out.

[67cougnut]

Here's trick I do a lot when mounting a fan into the shroud. I use the little mount tabs that come with the fan, but I sand the just a bit so that I can install them 'up-side-down' in the channels. Then I epoxy the mount tab into the fan. This way I can mount the fan into the back side of the shroud. It looks a little cleaner.


any plans of offering this shroud to mustang crowd?

[Bossed]

Just discovered your build/thread, very interested in seeing more. Thanks for sharing.

Bossed

[driveit]

I on the hunt for a 60's mustang for my wife. She really wants a convertible. Hers would be mostly stock. Red with white rally stripes, black interior and top, with some new wheels. I hope I can find one reasonable somewhere to start on for her. Good luck with your build and I will be checking in on your progress for ideas.

[RobNoLimit]

I've been making progress little by little. The mechanical build is almost done. Interior prep is also about finished. We custom ordered some Cerrullo seats, and they look and fit great (there's a 'but' coming) We had them done without the headrest so they look correct in the car, and we had seat heaters put in the backs and bottoms. The "direct fit" tracks that we ordered did fit, but mounted the seats too high in the car. So, I fabbed some new mounts for the tracks. The seats are a little over-stuffed, we may have to have some removed, so that Tina sits more 'in' the seat. Lots of Dynomat an the start of some Quality Heat Shield insulation. The roll bar is only a 4 point with a cross bar for the shoulder belts. If I had it to do over again, I would have used the Ididit universal column instead of the Mustang direct fit one. The replacement columns use the OE style turn sig which does not have an integrated hazard flasher, so the hazards must be wired and controlled separately. - just food for thought. The motor is getting swallowed up in the bay, and things there are still a bit un-tidy, but that will all clean up.

[RobNoLimit]

Saturday was test drive day!
We had drivin the car only around the parking lot a few times. But, it felt OK, so i thought I would take it to Fontana to a Speed Ventures track day Autocross. :) So, I started the day with reasonable hopes. The car was a pleasure to drive down the freeway. 3.73 gears and the AOD come together to make 75 mph at 2100 rpm (or close) Steering and suspension feel controlled, compliant, and stuck to the ground. The 16 mile trip to the speedway went without a hitch, until I exited the freeway. I had felt some hesitation with the throttle but just thought it was the EFI not really being in tune. Got off the freeway, down the street and it died. No fuel pressure, or at least not enough. I had a pit bag with tools (The Optima Shwag) So my first test was to pull the fuel line at the tank exit (in the trunk) and jump the relay - I could hold back the pressure with my thumb. Luckily there is an Oriely auto parts store around the corner. I walked over, bought a pump for a 2000 Camaro (standard Walbro style) - $47.78, walked back and put it in the tank. All total it took about a half an hour. The pict is where the car died and coasted to a stop. It's not really a side street, its the entrance to a trucking yard - closed on saturday - lucky break for me. On we go.

[RobNoLimit]

OK. Here's a few things. The wheels are 2000 Mustang dealer options. The size and offset is really close, and they were 50 bucks each. Later we will get the wheels she really wants. (I'm saving up already) The tires are 245/40/18 KDW's that we had. almost three years old but no miles. The hood, trunk lid and spoiler are from Maier Racing. We also have the front and rear bumpers from Maier but didn't put them on yet.
I was a bit nervous at first taking it out on the Auto-x, but lets give it a go. When I got there and checked in, I had time to look over the course, and went on a ride-a-long with one of the local guys I know. Initially I was hoping to break 50 sec. Most of the imports and late models were in the mid 40's to low 50's. Prepped cars in the low 40's to high 30's. The fast guys, the "Miata Bro's" were running 33.8's in their 'fast' car, on slicks. My first run was faster than I thought, at a 40.8xx, and I discovered a host of problems. Most having to do with the trans. I had modified the OE mustang shifter to fit the AOD, and it doesn't lock in to first or second. So, after the launch, if shifts to second, and at the entrance to the first turn, it shifts to third. - then , the governer is too tight, it won't down shift the rest of the lap. So, most of the lap is in third, lugging the motor at 2000/2500 rpm. My goal for the day was to drive the car, and list what it needed. So, the tires were at 36 psi, never checked them with the heat gun, the alignment is pretty calm, at -.6* camber, +6.5* caster, and 1/8" toe out. Shocks are all in the middle settings. I never touched any of it. After a few runs I managed a few 37 sec laps, with a 37.3xx fast lap. Way better than I had expected. - Bill in the S10 ran 35.3xx and Mike in the El-Co ran 35.5xx, both are on slicks with lots of laps and tuning. Then I packed up and headed home. I got caught in bad traffic, it was about 100* out, and it took me 40 min to go 1 mile to my exit. The car never got above 205, and I could watch the temp and fan cycle on/off with the thermostat above and below 195. All in all I'm thrilled with the car. The mufflers suck, and so does the shifter - but those are easy fixes. I'll get the trans dailed in then we can start tuning.

[Gil]

Bad A$$ car, even with the little isues...
Very nice work
Gil

[Rod]

- The mufflers suck, and so does the shifter - but those are easy fixes. I'll get the trans dailed in then we can start tuning.

ha ha ha REALLY if you new someone who had some mufflers! like those black widow ones on the truck behind you

[RobNoLimit]

No kidding, and a shifter company. like maybe Hurst? Wonder if I know anybody there. lol, I know. shaking my head.

[65coupe408w]

OK. Here's a few things. The wheels are 2000 Mustang dealer options. The size and offset is really close, and they were 50 bucks each. Later we will get the wheels she really wants. (I'm saving up already) The tires are 245/40/18 KDW's that we had. almost three years old but no miles. The hood, trunk lid and spoiler are from Maier Racing. We also have the front and rear bumpers from Maier but didn't put them on yet.
I was a bit nervous at first taking it out on the Auto-x, but lets give it a go. When I got there and checked in, I had time to look over the course, and went on a ride-a-long with one of the local guys I know. Initially I was hoping to break 50 sec. Most of the imports and late models were in the mid 40's to low 50's. Prepped cars in the low 40's to high 30's. The fast guys, the "Miata Bro's" were running 33.8's in their 'fast' car, on slicks. My first run was faster than I thought, at a 40.8xx, and I discovered a host of problems. Most having to do with the trans. I had modified the OE mustang shifter to fit the AOD, and it doesn't lock in to first or second. So, after the launch, if shifts to second, and at the entrance to the first turn, it shifts to third. - then , the governer is too tight, it won't down shift the rest of the lap. So, most of the lap is in third, lugging the motor at 2000/2500 rpm. My goal for the day was to drive the car, and list what it needed. So, the tires were at 36 psi, never checked them with the heat gun, the alignment is pretty calm, at -.6* camber, +6.5* caster, and 1/8" toe out. Shocks are all in the middle settings. I never touched any of it. After a few runs I managed a few 37 sec laps, with a 37.3xx fast lap. Way better than I had expected. - Bill in the S10 ran 35.3xx and Mike in the El-Co ran 35.5xx, both are on slicks with lots of laps and tuning. Then I packed up and headed home. I got caught in bad traffic, it was about 100* out, and it took me 40 min to go 1 mile to my exit. The car never got above 205, and I could watch the temp and fan cycle on/off with the thermostat above and below 195. All in all I'm thrilled with the car. The mufflers suck, and so does the shifter - but those are easy fixes. I'll get the trans dailed in then we can start tuning.

How do you like that hood? Would you say it gives extra clearance over a 65 GT350 hood? I am about to add a blower to mine and need additional clearance for the blower bonnet as I am running a 351w based stroker. Any input would be awesome.

[RobNoLimit]

It's been a while, and a lot has happened. We moved from Ca. to Tn. (Dandridge) in Sept. '14. that took a bit of work. The shop is back up and running, and we've been making some progress on the Mustang. After some more driving, some SCCA days, and Tina went to an Evolution Diving School, we decided it was time for paint and some more finishing. The base color is the OE Wimbleton White, with clear on the hood, deck, and bumpers to show the carbon fiber. The graphic was extended down the tail pan and front valance with some wrap material. The interior is half done, and we have solved the shifter, Yes, went with a Hurst, and Muffler (Black Widow) problems. Tina had the car in Raleigh NC in the spring for the GoodGuys show there, in primer, and we are getting ready to take it to Columbus this weekend. Still on KDW's, now 7 yrs old, and no new wheels yet (yet). But, it's smooth, fast, and fun to drive. stop by and check it out if you go to Columbus, she'll be in the Auto-X pits.

[MSTSFabbed]

Hey welcome to our neck of the woods! I'm about an hour and a half south in Chattanooga. I need to come up and see you sometime!

Stang looks great! Glad you're having fun with it!

[Josh@Ridetech]

Looking great, Rob!

[RobNoLimit]

All I can say is "What a Weekend!". The Columbus show is huge, and with that comes a LOT of Auto-X competitors, over 100. Throw in the Street Machine of the Year contenders, and the Sponsor Shootout, and you might complain about only getting 5 runs all weekend. - If you were lucky. Even the Pro car runs were cut. We got 5 of friday, and 3 more saturday (if you were not in the Shoot-out). We had two drivers in the Mustang, Tina, and B.J. (one of our TIG welders) so that we could get some extra feedback. Tina got down to a 38.6 sec. run, for 19th out of 46 in Street Machine (this is her third Auto-X) and B.J. ran a solid 37.0 for 11th spot. The car proved fun and drivable. We still have an EFI issue and it needs tires worse than ever. The seven yr old KDW's are chunking rubber off the edges :) We think tires and some throttle response would be worth 2 sec + , which would have put B.J. on the board in the toughest Street Machine class we've ever seen. The best pat may have been Tina driving the 'stang to Thurman's Cafe, Winking Lizard, and over to the Host Hotel.

[csouth]

All I can say is "What a Weekend!". The Columbus show is huge, and with that comes a LOT of Auto-X competitors, over 100. Throw in the Street Machine of the Year contenders, and the Sponsor Shootout, and you might complain about only getting 5 runs all weekend. - If you were lucky. Even the Pro car runs were cut. We got 5 of friday, and 3 more saturday (if you were not in the Shoot-out). We had two drivers in the Mustang, Tina, and B.J. (one of our TIG welders) so that we could get some extra feedback. Tina got down to a 38.6 sec. run, for 19th out of 46 in Street Machine (this is her third Auto-X) and B.J. ran a solid 37.0 for 11th spot. The car proved fun and drivable. We still have an EFI issue and it needs tires worse than ever. The seven yr old KDW's are chunking rubber off the edges :) We think tires and some throttle response would be worth 2 sec + , which would have put B.J. on the board in the toughest Street Machine class we've ever seen. The best pat may have been Tina driving the 'stang to Thurman's Cafe, Winking Lizard, and over to the Host Hotel.

I saw her run this wknd, nice looking car. She's pretty good behind the wheel too. You should post a shot of the back window...lol #asphalt...

[Cobra 498]

I would bet new tires would be worth more than 2 seconds, those new Rival -S tires are very good especially compared to old KDW's

[RobNoLimit]

This is the infamous back sticker. It's her idea for a reality show. - about girls that auto-x, get out of the gutter! - although it would still be about girls workin' the corner.

[csouth]

This is the infamous back sticker. It's her idea for a reality show. - about girls that auto-x, get out of the gutter! - although it would still be about girls workin' the corner.

Nah, I figured it was all about women in some form of motorsports...

[RobNoLimit]

It's getting exciting now! Getting ready for the USCA Charlotte event this weekend. Drivability is the most important thing for this car. Tina really wants to do some real driving events. For her, that means the Power Tour, the Sturgis Mustang Rally, and some of the Good-Guys Road Tours. So, first on the list is the fuel problems. Our old employee Mike Sullivan is now working with F.I. Tech in Ca., and he has been keeping us up to date with their new generation stuff, so we thought we'd give it a try here. We have used their EFI units on other projects with great success, and the new units look even better. This is a simplified EFI that is very tunable and even offers timing control. The 4 injector base unit is good for 600 hp (fine for the 'stang's 375) and they now have an annular feed 8 injector unit good for big HP. The first difference is that the throttle body has a built in regulator, and the feed and return are on the back. This makes the plumbing a bit cleaner. The packaging was nice, and it comes with a cool clip holder for the control pad (maybe later to be used to hold an I-phone) We should be up and running today, the wiring is simple, the total install will only take about 2 hours. We are now set up as a dealer for F.I. Tech if anyone is interested.

[RobNoLimit]

Some more goodies showed up today. A new set of shoes, and some magic in a heavy duct taped box. This should be fun.

[Jetfixr320]

Rob

Shoot me some info on the FI . Im running a 331 (430HP) MSD 6AL in my Falcon.

[Bowtie racing]

Can you share more info of the FI system?

[Dave B]

Yeah, I've never seen that system before, how do you like it? Do you have a suspension to fit a Maverick? I want something different than the 5 other people that have Mavericks

[wfo guy]

FITech has there own website. They're plan from what I have seen is to be way less money than the rest.

[brawls43]

Any update Rob, on how the FI Tech install went? I swear I just read another FITech article about their new system, but I can't find it. Looks like a cool system. I like their surge tank setup too.

[Z06killinSBF]

Can you show where you mounted the pins for your Aerolatches? I need to install mine and am looking at different locations. Thanks

[RobNoLimit]

OK, Truth is I had some issues. The F.I.Tech EFI went on very easily. No problems. Started up just fine. I ran it through it's base start up routine, seamed OK. Then I was sad. The throttle response was poor, and the idle quality was bad. The F.I. tech help was great, but no luck. very frustrating. SO, it was back to basic mechanicin'. Pulled the distributer (I have an old Allen Test distributer machine) well, the shaft and advance mech seamed a little worn, but not out of spec, but, I decided to go with a new Pertronics HEI style unit and get ride of some clutter. Next up, valve lash, The motor is a GT 5.0 with Hydrolic roller cam. All set, Fire it back up and same troubles. Just seamed like a vacuum leak, and/or more. I guessed that I must have messed up the valve adjustment. Round 2. So, I pulled the EFI and Distributer, then the intake - ?? this could be trouble. Three of the intake bolts I took off with my fingers - no BS - the others only had 4 or 5 lbs of torque on them. Yep, the gaskets show signs of oil flow up from the valley, a sure sign of a vacuum leak. So, I used a wire gauge to set the valves (the right way) and new gaskets for the intake, and then back together. And success! runs like a top. Now I was getting somewhere. I let it run for ten minutes to set the idle and warm up, then took it for a drive. It's kinda cool, you can feel it tune itself in. After about 15 miles, I called the F.I. tech help for some tuning advice. The gave me some base settings for the accelerator pump screen and that was it. So, time for some fun. We took it out to the local SCCA meet and ran some laps. The drive there is about 45 miles on the freeway. I took mostly back and side roads to vary the rpm and load, about 60 miles. The car feels better than ever, and the throttle response is great. In Columbus the power off the corner was so bad it was like 'mash it and wait' off of every corner. Now, it pulls up quick, and you have to modulate the throttle. - you can still mash it and wait, but you will spin out. We ran the fastest laps in CAM-T, and were on pace with some Mustangs and 'Vettes in other classes. Way happy with the car. Drove it home on the freeway and got 23 mpg to boot! Lovin it!

So, the headaches I had were not the fault of F.I. Tech, and they did help me get it solved. One thing to note, the previous fuel system was not accurate enough to let the problems show up, it just ran fat. This tells me that the sampling rate and the firmware here are much much faster and more accurate. Good to know. I am definitely going to run the same unit on my '68 camaro project.

[brawls43]

Good review, thanks for the update Rob!

[Sleeper68]

Rob,

I have seen you and your wife at a few events around including the local ETR SCCA autocrosses and CTS this past May. I live about 40 minutes from Dandridge in Alcoa, TN. You may have seen me around, I have the flat black 1968 Camaro RS. I will be attending the September ETRSCCA autocross and a local Porsche Club of America autocross (open to everyone). I go to the University of Tennessee in Knoxville for electrical engineering and I would love to meet up with you sometime and talk cars, more on the engineering side of course.

I recently installed some new suspension on the car (it only has about 30 miles on the new setup and it needs to settle badly). There is a VERY nice, well-known road near us call "The Tail of the Dragon." My buddies and I go down there sometimes but have not been recently. I need to get the car out and test different alignment specs and sway bar settings before the upcoming events in September and I would love to take a drive with you through "The Dragon" to do so.

Let me know what you think, I'm sure you're very busy with the new Sniper IFS and shop location. I will PM you my email and cell # if you would like it. Hopefully we can get together soon, there aren't many traditional muscle car enthusiasts around here that actually do anything fun with their cars, so us pro-touring guys need to stick together!

-Ryan

[RobNoLimit]

That would be cool. I don't have a lot of spare time, but Tina and I are planning to take the truck and the Mustang down to the Dragon in the early fall. ? When/where is this sept auto-x? I might make that one too. I've seen your car around, and have already met a good bunch of people who drive their cars, so they may be more than you think. Get me your info and we'll get in touch.
Rob,

I have seen you and your wife at a few events around including the local ETR SCCA autocrosses and CTS this past May. I live about 40 minutes from Dandridge in Alcoa, TN. You may have seen me around, I have the flat black 1968 Camaro RS. I will be attending the September ETRSCCA autocross and a local Porsche Club of America autocross (open to everyone). I go to the University of Tennessee in Knoxville for electrical engineering and I would love to meet up with you sometime and talk cars, more on the engineering side of course.

I recently installed some new suspension on the car (it only has about 30 miles on the new setup and it needs to settle badly). There is a VERY nice, well-known road near us call "The Tail of the Dragon." My buddies and I go down there sometimes but have not been recently. I need to get the car out and test different alignment specs and sway bar settings before the upcoming events in September and I would love to take a drive with you through "The Dragon" to do so.

Let me know what you think, I'm sure you're very busy with the new Sniper IFS and shop location. I will PM you my email and cell # if you would like it. Hopefully we can get together soon, there aren't many traditional muscle car enthusiasts around here that actually do anything fun with their cars, so us pro-touring guys need to stick together!

-Ryan