View Full Version : No Wonder Vega's were a POS!
vintageracer
10-12-2010, 10:53 AM
GM shipped them like the Sardines they were!
MarkM66
10-12-2010, 11:18 AM
That's cool. I wonder if any came unhooked.
JEFFTATE
10-12-2010, 11:35 AM
I didn't know they shipped them on their noses ..
How'd that work ???
moreHP
10-12-2010, 11:39 AM
I had never seen cars shipped that way before!
Mach Par
10-12-2010, 11:42 AM
I didn't know they shipped them on their noses ..
How'd that work ???
From the lack of gap in the wheel wells it looks like they chained them down maybe? Whatever it is it's kinda cool.
fbody_mike
10-12-2010, 12:14 PM
Wow? I wonder if the cost benefit was worth it? Seems like alot of labor and risk.
oestek
10-12-2010, 01:09 PM
See the GT with the black stripe?
Nothingface5384
10-12-2010, 02:01 PM
haha, that hilarious...never would I have thought that's how they shipped some cars back in the day..
Yelcamino
10-12-2010, 02:05 PM
That's pretty cool actually.
Nothingface5384
10-12-2010, 02:15 PM
it actually is.
6'9"Witha69
10-12-2010, 02:44 PM
Looks like they could transport 2x the cars for the same space. I bet you could do it with civics and Corollas nowadays.
Bill Howell
10-12-2010, 03:08 PM
They must have shipped them without oil, etc? Maybe the chemical reaction during the shipping sped up the rust process. I have never seen many that were not rust buckets, even back in the day.
Ron S
10-12-2010, 03:21 PM
Maybe thats why the engines failed so quickly also, kinda hard on the thrust, on an aluminum block. I still love these little cars, the fact that the iron worms took most of them away, makes them harder to come by. The Monza's, Vega's and Pinto's were it for the American compacts of the 70's, total POS, but nothing a little Pro Touring tech. couldn't fix.
jon72vega
10-12-2010, 03:41 PM
No Wonder Vega's were a POS! GM shipped them like the Sardines they were!
:moon: :)
Below is some info on the shipping of the Vega copied from Wikipedia.
Vert-A-Pac
The Vega was designed to be shipped vertically, nose down. Special rail cars known as Vert-A-Pac cars designed jointly between General Motors and Southern Pacific (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Pacific) and held 30 Vegas versus 18 in normal tri-level autoracks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autorack). Each Vega was fitted with four removable, cast-steel sockets inserted into the undercarriage.[103] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Vega#cite_note-102)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Vert_A_Pac_railcar.jpg) https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Vert_A_Pac_railcar.jpg)
30 Vegas in a single Vert-a-pac
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Vert_A_Pac%282%29.jpg) https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Vert_A_Pac%282%29.jpg)
Vegas loaded on Vert-a-pac
Chevrolet conducted vibration (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vibration) and low-speed crash tests to make sure nose-down Vegas wouldn't shift or be damaged in railcar collisions. Chevrolet's goal was to deliver Vegas topped with fluids and ready to drive to the dealership. To do this Vega engineers had to design a special engine oil (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil) baffle to prevent oil from entering the No. 1 cylinder, batteries (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Car_battery) had filler caps located high up on the rear edge of the case to prevent acid spilling, the carburetor float bowl had a special tube that drained gasoline (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline) into the vapor canister during shipment, and the windshield washer bottle stood at a 45 degree angle. Plastic spacers were wedged in beside the powertrain to prevent damage to engine and transmission mounts. The wedges were removed when cars were unloaded. The rail car doors were opened and closed via forklift (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forklift).[104] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Vega#cite_note-103):):)
Here's the link to the complete info the Wiki has on the Chevy Vega if you want to read it in it's entirety.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Vega
twosaturns
10-12-2010, 04:49 PM
it's a shame that all the effort that the engineers went through to ensure safe transport couldn't have been applied to making a better product.
vegas rusted on the dealer lots, the unlined aluminum cylinders scored easily, and lots of other stuff I've read about but don't remember (d'oh!)
JEFFTATE
10-12-2010, 05:07 PM
That could have been a good car , if they'd just got the bugs out of it.
It was ahead of its time .
The technology just wasn't available to meet the requirements set forth for the car.
78 Type-LT
10-12-2010, 05:41 PM
That is a cool method of shipping
David Pozzi
10-12-2010, 06:06 PM
They had one of the first side terminal batteries, but the vent caps were to the rear of the battery top so it wouldn't leak when the car was shipped on it's nose.
Kenova
10-12-2010, 07:06 PM
Say what you like about the Vega and it's siblings. I see more of them every year than the Japanese imports of the same era.
Rusting on the dealers lot!? Urban myth.
The much maligned (although imperfect) aluminum block!? GM sold the technology to Porsche.
POS!? Perhaps, but they do have potential. Take a look at what it takes to beat Jeff Schwartz's Flying Turd.
The main reason you don't see many today is because they were throw away cars, just like the Corollas of the same period.
Ken
a73formula
10-12-2010, 08:08 PM
don't forget 71 was motor trends car of the year.
novaderrik
10-13-2010, 02:52 AM
did they also ship all the Vega variants the same way?
Monzas, Sunbirds, etc?
ho428
10-13-2010, 04:04 AM
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/10/largeimagead101012-1.jpg
CraigMorrison
10-13-2010, 05:05 AM
Don't knock 'em too hard. Just wait to see the PT Vega that we are doing a chassis for.
soopertrucker
10-13-2010, 06:33 AM
Don't knock 'em too hard. Just wait to see the PT Vega that we are doing a chassis for.
Where can I see it? I've got a '71 I want to make a street fighter out of.
Steven
10-13-2010, 07:00 AM
Hey, vegas are a good looking car, just the engine sucked. A freind in High School went throuh two engines before he gave up. Another friend had the panel version of the station wagon and put speed goodies on it and never had a problem.
John Wright
10-13-2010, 07:00 AM
I had a 71 that I bought for $100 off my neighbor that had a iron block in it....I got a bunch of miles(nearly 200K) out of that car, sold it to a guy for $300 and that guy put a bunch more miles on it...I'm sure it had over 300K on it before a girl forgot to put it in Park(powerglide) and didn't set the brake....she was drunk, cut the car off with it still in gear and got out...it rolled down a really steep hill and off an embankment then backed into a tree and killed the little car.
silver69camaro
10-13-2010, 07:01 AM
Don't knock 'em too hard. Just wait to see the PT Vega that we are doing a chassis for.
Uh oh. The cat's out of the bag now!
CraigMorrison
10-13-2010, 07:06 AM
Where can I see it? I've got a '71 I want to make a street fighter out of.
As soon as the builder lets me post a rendering I will!
John Wright
10-13-2010, 07:07 AM
Uh oh. The cat's out of the bag now!
Meow!...LOL
Kenova
10-13-2010, 07:13 AM
Don't knock 'em too hard. Just wait to see the PT Vega that we are doing a chassis for.
:jump::jump: Show me! Show me!
Ken
soopertrucker
10-14-2010, 06:10 AM
As soon as the builder lets me post a rendering I will!
Waiting patiently.
CraigMorrison
10-14-2010, 10:19 AM
The rendering is on its way....
soopertrucker
10-14-2010, 12:39 PM
the rendering is on its way....
cool.
CraigMorrison
10-14-2010, 12:56 PM
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/10/scan1vi-1.jpg
The car is owned by Mike Coughlin of Jegs and is going to be build by Chris Sondles and his talented crew over at Woody's Hot Rodz.
Plans are for an LSX and either a 5 or 6 speed trans, AME Max-G chassis with 3-link and our Sport IFS front. Pretty cool little car!
soopertrucker
10-14-2010, 02:12 PM
What wheel and tire combo? When does the project thread get started?
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