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David Pozzi
05-21-2005, 07:53 PM
OK Guys, post your links to the best Hardcore Suspension tech you can find. PLEASE! no basic stuff.

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ALSO TRY OUR NEW ADVANCED TECH SECTION: https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=80

Q ship
05-21-2005, 08:52 PM
Just a few from past posts here. David, they are just in the order in which I found them, not significance or with any type of learning flow. Feel free to move them around, delete, whatever to make it easier to learn.

Motion Ratio. (https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6246)
The John Parsons project. (https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5895)
One of many Guldstrand mod discussions. (https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4581)
Roll Center discussion. (https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4592)
Alignment/track width/other good stuff. (https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3479)
3 link rear suspension, with some good links in post #12 (https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3437)
C5 components and....philosophy? (https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3294)
Rear suspensions. (https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3266)
Another that I found by clicking on past links. (https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3266)
Scrub Radius. (https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4983)

Ok, it's getting late and I gotta go to work. Hopefully that is what you are looking for, David.

David Pozzi
05-21-2005, 09:04 PM
Yes!
Thanks! ;)

parsonsj
05-21-2005, 09:09 PM
David,

Here's a link to my front suspension story:

http://popularhotrodding.com/tech/0505phr_susp/

I don't know if it's hardcore, but it does have Katz design drawings in it. :)

jp

chicane67
05-21-2005, 09:17 PM
Here are a few links specifically dealing with suspension from are little home here, that involve some great conversation and a no non-sense approach to an applicable explaination. Good tech anyway you look at it.......

Stay bar tech, from the old PT site:
http://p092.ezboard.com/fprotouringgmachinesfrm4.showMessage?topicID=1382. topic

Stay bar rate tech and the math to do it, from the old PT site:
http://p092.ezboard.com/fprotouringgmachinesfrm4.showMessage?topicID=1484. topic

Wheel base discussion, from old PT site:
http://p092.ezboard.com/fprotouringgmachinesfrm4.showMessage?topicID=1303. topic

Track width discussion, from old PT site:
http://p092.ezboard.com/fprotouringgmachinesfrm4.showMessage?topicID=1303. topic

List of good books relating to suspension, from old PT site:
http://p092.ezboard.com/fprotouringgmachinesfrm4.showMessage?topicID=1390. topic

Three link tech, from old PT site:
http://p092.ezboard.com/fprotouringgmachinesfrm4.showMessage?topicID=1433. topic

Drop spindle discussion, from old PT site:
http://p092.ezboard.com/fprotouringgmachinesfrm4.showMessage?topicID=1313. topic

Q ship
05-22-2005, 07:03 AM
OK, here's some links from the "evil empire", C-C.com.
DIY alignments. (http://corner-carvers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13211)
More alignment tech, with links. (http://corner-carvers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22252)
Satchell link rear suspension. (http://corner-carvers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18020)
Torsional rigidity. (http://corner-carvers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14402)
Tire width discussion for performance, not looks. (http://corner-carvers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22831)
Inexpensive high performance tires. (http://corner-carvers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2329)
Tire width/wheel width. (http://corner-carvers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=824)
Battery relocation info. (Language warning, for the squeamish.) (http://corner-carvers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7765)

Sorry, that last one was for me so I could reread it later!

I know, it's a 4th gen Camaro-lots of basic theory being put to use, though. (http://corner-carvers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14695)
Watts link. (http://corner-carvers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11853)
Scrub radius again, (http://corner-carvers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15145)
Serious shocks! (http://corner-carvers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19283)

Ok, starting to go cross-eyed! As before David, please do with these as you wish, I just wanted to toss some stuff out there.

Some of the pics won't show up unless you are logged in. On that subject, the guys that are looking at this thread and wanting more really need to join over there. A few people here have expressed a dislike for the "attitude" at C-C, to that I would say stay out of the General discussion area! By far, that is where the people with an axe to grind predominate. You are doing yourselves a disservice by ignoring the Suspension forum.

Kenny
08-19-2005, 10:46 AM
millikenresearch.com It is the 900 page racecar dynamics bible, all kinds of software for tires and stuff, lots of in detail research, not bench racing theory:icon996:

Hidro
06-15-2006, 12:21 PM
Here are a few links specifically dealing with suspension from are little home here, that involve some great conversation and a no non-sense approach to an applicable explaination. Good tech anyway you look at it.......

Stay bar tech, from the old PT site:
http://p092.ezboard.com/fprotouringgmachinesfrm4.showMessage?topicID=1382. topic

Stay bar rate tech and the math to do it, from the old PT site:
http://p092.ezboard.com/fprotouringgmachinesfrm4.showMessage?topicID=1484. topic

Wheel base discussion, from old PT site:
http://p092.ezboard.com/fprotouringgmachinesfrm4.showMessage?topicID=1303. topic

Track width discussion, from old PT site:
http://p092.ezboard.com/fprotouringgmachinesfrm4.showMessage?topicID=1303. topic

List of good books relating to suspension, from old PT site:
http://p092.ezboard.com/fprotouringgmachinesfrm4.showMessage?topicID=1390. topic

Three link tech, from old PT site:
http://p092.ezboard.com/fprotouringgmachinesfrm4.showMessage?topicID=1433. topic

Drop spindle discussion, from old PT site:
http://p092.ezboard.com/fprotouringgmachinesfrm4.showMessage?topicID=1313. topic


Links are dead?

derekf
06-15-2006, 05:44 PM
Search the Archives forum (https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=57).

Most of them should be there; make sure you've got "Beginning" selected in "Show threads from.." to see all of them. I went to go make sure all of these were copied over last year but the ezboard site didn't have any of them any more.

Hidro
06-15-2006, 08:28 PM
Search the Archives forum (https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=57).

Most of them should be there; make sure you've got "Beginning" selected in "Show threads from.." to see all of them. I went to go make sure all of these were copied over last year but the ezboard site didn't have any of them any more.

TYVM

BillyShope
01-09-2008, 06:40 AM
Lots of suspension setup spreadsheets with discussion and a "Getting Started" page at:

http://home.earthlink.net/~whshope

David Pozzi
01-09-2008, 01:24 PM
Billy,
Thanks for providing your great page!!!
David

Desert68
04-03-2009, 01:52 PM
millikenresearch.com (http://millikenresearch.com) It is the 900 page racecar dynamics bible, all kinds of software for tires and stuff, lots of in detail research, not bench racing theory:icon996:

Just came across this thread. The 900 page book is Race Car Vehicle Dynamics. This is as comprehensive and hardcore as anything I've ever seen in print. Other books to go along with it:

http://www.millikenresearch.com/books.html

David Pozzi
10-26-2009, 12:20 PM
Here's a good thread on Torsional Rigidity of a Camaro.
https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/showthread.php?t=55201

autoxcuda
11-06-2009, 12:03 PM
What about a link to matching shocks dyno curves to spring/wheel rates and vehicle weights to race applications (autocross and road race).

Like. I have my wheel rates and I have access to a shock dyno. What dyno curves should you shoot for for autocross and road race? -We run circle track and that has it's own unique shock setups.

David Pozzi
02-15-2010, 10:49 PM
Don't have any links, but search on "critical damping"

Eric Howell
02-04-2012, 01:40 PM
Links don't work because of one of the vBulliten updates. Same thing on all vb forums.

BillyShope
02-04-2012, 03:56 PM
I'll take this opportunity to update my URL in this old thread. It's now:
http://www.racetec.cc/shope