Project "TTTA"

[Doug1]

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Project Triple Threat Trans Am 7/15/10

There is not much to show at this point because it has just recently been stripped. It will be getting the full pro-touring treatment though.

Since I want to be able to drag race as well as have a car that will handle, I am going with a 3-4 link from Art Morrison Engineering. Frank at Prodigy got them to engineer one for this car so it is the first 2nd gen that AME built this for. So thanks to him 2nd gen owners will have a new option since the engineering has now been done. The only drawback is the car will have to be back halved. The engineering drawings are now in Franks's hands and once he approves the parts will get built. He has partnered up with Chad, his good friend at Fletcher's Customs to help me move it along as quickly as possible so the car will actually be a joint venture.

I had this put the car together with a new 400 to get it to the point where I could sell it since I have a few other 2nd gens that are nicer. One being a pro-mod the other's restorations. After doing that, I changed my mind and started stripping it. Drove it less than 20 miles as it was.

Here is what it started out as..

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After tearing it down again...
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and the last I saw of it on 5/4 :fingersx:...
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[Doug1]

The motor is here and ready to rock other than new polished aluminum valve covers that will hook up to the vacumm pump.

The motor is a 720hp 535 Pontiac built using the IA2 block. It has some custom work on the recently released Northwind manifold done to get it to fit a shaker hood. I had the heads, intake and timing cover polished and Zoop sealed or powder coated in clear.

I have now just about decided that I will procharge it but will let it go as is for the moment.

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[nor_cal_67rs]

Sweet!!! I can't wait to see this!!!

[OLDFLM]

Love that you painted the block! That Northwind will feed it with no problems! Even if you go with a blower! Looking forward to updates my friend!!

[John Wright]

Whew!..get that thing out of the sun light before you blind somebody!....LOL

Looks killer!

[jy211]

and the last I saw of it on 5/4 :fingersx:...
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Man, I bet this guy could use a drink if he's doing this work in THIS humidity down here! :cheers:

[John Wright]

Man, I bet this guy could use a drink :cheers:

...and a bath!...yuk, I hate that part of our hobby.....sand, sand everywhere

[ModernMuseum]

Holy crap, that guy is sandblasting in shorts! His balls must be bigger than mine, which isn't saying much, but still...

[CruizinKev]

wow cool project so far! :twothumbs

[ProdigyCustoms]

Holy crap, that guy is sandblasting in shorts! His balls must be bigger than mine, which isn't saying much, but still...

Ray is a animal. We offered to put it on the rotissiere, that takes a couple hours, next thing I know I walk outside and he has the car on blocks and is going at it, LOL!

[jy211]

Ray is a animal. We offered to put it on the rotissiere, that takes a couple hours, next thing I know I walk outside and he has the car on blocks and is going at it, LOL!

No Chit! :firefire:

[NOT A TA]

Sounds like a very nice build. I'll be watching for updates!

[parsonsj]

Who needs a car? Just hook that motor up to the cart and go!

[Doug1]

Who needs a car? Just hook that motor up to the cart and go!

My attempt at the ultimate power to weight ratio... The bicycle chain kept coming off though and steering by foot dragging was tough on the shoes...

[srh3trinity]

It is getting interesting around here with all of these second gens getting some PT love.

[OLDFLM]

I see a Pinks style PT.com 2nd Gen F-body Face Off coming soon!

"PT2GENFBFO"

[CraigMorrison]

Car looks great! When it gets finished you are going to have a lot of fun with it!

[Doug1]

Car looks great! When it gets finished you are going to have a lot of fun with it!

I want to set the new standard for 2nd gen TAs. All that AME high tech stuff should make that automatic shouldn't it? :woot:

[WS6]

Very cool. i'm so glad to see another 2nd gen getting built.

is that another TA you have next to the engine?

[Doug1]

Very cool. i'm so glad to see another 2nd gen getting built.

is that another TA you have next to the engine?

Yes it is. I have a "few" 2nd Gen Trans Ams at the moment. The blue one is my current favorite. 1979 TA with a 70 HO455 with eheads and a solid roller, TH450, slide-a-links 3.90 Richmond. Pretty much a restomod I worked on over the last 2 years. It was a piece of junk when I got it. Pretty nice now though not a corner-carver like the new aftermarket stuff. It still handles the turns very well in almost stock form.

Just took it in for paint though. The paint was okay but if you looked closely you could see sanding scratches in some places and a couple of other minor flaws that drove me crazy.

The photo below is a link to a slideshow of some of the work I did on it. I could do a thread on it but it isn't a true Pro-touring car.

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[CCC]

Wow. Would this fit a 71 Camaro? Is this the ULTIMATE setup? I am trying to plan a build for my camaro now. I am just starting out so please be paitient with my newbie questions.

[ProdigyCustoms]

Wow. Would this fit a 71 Camaro? Is this the ULTIMATE setup? I am trying to plan a build for my camaro now. I am just starting out so please be paitient with my newbie questions.

Yes it will , but it is a true back half job to do it.

[ProdigyCustoms]

So the TTTA is headed to Fletcher's Customs. The change in suspension plans is pushing the TTTA project into a schedule funnel at Prodigy Customs. We were originally doing just sheetmetal and suspension, but Doug now wants someone to take the project all the way. Doug is super anxious to get the car done ASAP and the project has snowballed into a monster (a really cool monster) and we simply will not be able to fit a full build of this magnitude into Doug's schedule without disrupting the other 20 projects on the schedule.

And since my buddy Chad just finished shaking out the Freedom Bird and since he has some time on his hands for a one on one project, he can probably have the entire build done by the end of the year. So it works perfect for everyone for Chad to take this one over.

So Prodigy is still very involved as consultants and parts suppliers. We support the project 100%. We can't wait to see the project finished. We know Chad will do a hell of a job!

[Doug1]

Thanks to both Frank and Chad for helping me out on this. I should have named this project "scope creep" because the project does seem to have grown exponentially from some bolt in stuff to one that invloves cutting the car up pretty good.

It should be one of a kind if nothing else :-)

[fletcherscustoms]

We just did a 12 hour turn-and-burn from my place in South GA down to Frank's in Orlando. The car is now safely back at my shop... More pics and details coming soon... I'm headed to bed.

This project is a true definition of what two friends and two builders in the industry working together can do! The car and Doug's plans just got to be a little more than Frank's schedule would allow... And the car has taken on an extremely cool life of its own! And that's where Fletcher's Customs comes in; having wrapped up FreedomBird and my Camaro basically done we had some free space and time, something that Frank did not have with his shop and schedule full of cars.

Frank, myself and Doug all came to a mutual decision for me to take on the project and take it a little further. Since bringing the home we hired Ben Hermance with Hermance Design to do the official rendering! We are shooting for the baddest 78 T/A on the planet! Look for the use of some carbon fiber, custom body mods, and some other cool tricks we've got in the works to make this the best handling and by far best looking and BADDEST T/A ON THE PLANET!!

A LOT more details coming in the near future. This has all happened pretty quickly so there's still a ton of details to get worked out...

[cdoggy81]

Looking forward to seeing another 2nd gen f-body (specially a Pontiac) project come to life!

[fletcherscustoms]

The Custom Art Morrison 5 link rear suspension. This is the second one built my good buddy Frank at Prodigy Customs did the design and work with Art Morrison to make this a reality. He is installing the #1 unit into his 69 Camaro Project "Unfair". This will be the first one to be built for a 2nd gen F-body.

Couple of answers to questions I know will come up

-Removal of certain bars allows for different setups for road racing and drag racing

-That right there is a true no compromise road race 3 link set up when the upper outer bars are removed. That is also a true no compromise Drag Race 4 link (just like a Pro Stocker) when the upper center bar is removed! Quite honestly this is one of those things that is right in front of you no one saw it!

-A car with the ability to quickly (few hours) transform from a great autocross / road race car to a great drag car by moving some stuff around and swapping some easy to change Components (Read more later). The idea was for a suspension system with massive adjust ability.

-Does the car have to be Back halfed?- yes it does, you must remove rear rails, floors, etc. All will have to be fabricated once rear clip is installed. The first gen piece will not be back half job, only require removing rear frame rails and re welding new rail that are formed to fit factory floor.

-How big a tire can this handle? More then a notched factory frame as long as you do not use pre packaged tubs. The outer frame rails are 1" more narrow then the narrowest possible frame width with thinnest factory frame rail notch one can do. And what is so cool is you not only keep a full rail where you normally notch, but you have a stronger rail also. Our drag tires will be 345 / 35 / 18 Drag Radials with a section around 14.5"! So we will be making bigger mini tubs

These are pics of the rear clip for "Project Unfair" that Prodigy Customs is building

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[LeighP]

Thats a sweet piece of engineering...I love that stuff, its one of the things that attracts me to Pro-Touring.
I've been following Doug's build at Trans Am Country....can't wait to see it all happen.

If this is going all out, perhaps you could convince Anvil to do a carbon fiber 77/78 nose panel. I know there is a need for a good, straight fitting glass or carbon fiber nose for these year cars.

Nice to see more 2nd gens getting the PT treatment.

[fletcherscustoms]

We have the hood coming as well thanks to Albert and Carbon Kustoms. Still trying to see what we can do on the nose

[Doug1]

You can get a fiberglass nose for a 78 from Year One. They developed it for the BRE Trans Am. I bought one a year or 2 ago and stuck it in storage in case I wanted it for this build.



Thats a sweet piece of engineering...I love that stuff, its one of the things that attracts me to Pro-Touring.
I've been following Doug's build at Trans Am Country....can't wait to see it all happen.

If this is going all out, perhaps you could convince Anvil to do a carbon fiber 77/78 nose panel. I know there is a need for a good, straight fitting glass or carbon fiber nose for these year cars.

Nice to see more 2nd gens getting the PT treatment.

[srh3trinity]

What are the lengths of the upper third link and the lower two links? I realize that those photos may be from Unfair. If that is true, I will stand by until you get a little further in the build.

[cdoggy81]

I know VFN makes a 79-81 front. They may even do a 77-78 as well...

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[fletcherscustoms]

year one has the 77-78 Fiberglass nose section on there site. WE will be using that coupled with the Carbon Fenders, hood, and shaker. Should remove a good bit of weight off the front of the car

[LeighP]

I've heard mixed reviews of both the VFN nose and hte Year One nose...which surprised me as at least the YO nose looked to be a much better finished part. Both different builders wound up modifying their noses to fit.
I have no personal experience with either part....when I owned a 77 T/A I was planning on buying the YO nose for when it was going to be painted....but now I'm a 71 owner.

[fletcherscustoms]

any links to the issues with the YO nose?

[LeighP]

Would have been a project car on either
www.transamcountry.com or
www.performanceyears.com
Not sure which.
Sorry I can't be of more help than that....I'll go have a look and see if I can find anything.

[LeighP]

I found the guy with the poor VFN nose on TAC, but couldn't find the other guy working with the YO nose...sorry.

[fletcherscustoms]

no problem I am searching also

[fletcherscustoms]

WE are in a holding pattern waiting on the parts to start showing up. WE are delivering a project this weekend and clearing the way for "TTTA" to come into its new home. Over the next couple of week while we are waiting we will be doing some minor things like shaving and smoothing firewall, starting some rust repair, and getting her on the custom built jig we are designing and building now.

Ben hermance has got some very trick things designed for the project that will surely cement this car as the baddest 78 T/A on the planet

[Doug1]

We now have the rendering.

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[fletcherscustoms]

Ben Hermance hits another home run. Same feel as the "Freedombird" keep the stock apearance but improve what GM designed. Slight flaring of the quarters,small sheetmetal flares, and some carbon used for a splitter and some rocker extensions. Plus addition for carbon hood and decklid from Anvil and albert at carbon creations. Looking forward to starting on this thing. Just waiting on the morrison stuff to show up.


I guess i should base my business plan around second gens. I'm getting to be a expert with them.

[OLDFLM]

We now have the rendering.

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LOVE IT!!! Looks like a ZR1 version of the Trans Am... ON STERIODS!!!

[T_Raven]

That rendering is bitchin. Is it going to have a CF hood?

[LeighP]

Yeah.....with all the early cars getting built, I love that it has the iconic 77/78 front.

[WS6]

gorgeous! I had a similar idea for a front splitter on my 79. I'm not going to be able to make mine anytime soon so I'll be anxiously waiting to see this one come together.

[CruizinKev]

looks great!!

[ProdigyCustoms]

That is freakin BADD ASS! I love, love love the splitter. love the fender vent. Hell i just love it.

[srh3trinity]

Rendering is perfect. I had similar ideas when I was thinking about a 77-78. Particularly with the headlights, fender vents and some kind of race inspired splitter. This car is going to look great.

[PonchoJohn]

Sweet looking design... can't wait to see it come together!
Oh, that engine is so B!TCHEN'!!!

[hdesign]

Thanks for the comments guys and thanks to Chad and Doug for getting me involved. I was thrilled to be a part of doing something Non-Bandit inspired for the later 2nd gen cars.

I'm loving this trickle down effect that's going on throughout the pro-touring movement right now. We're starting to see a ton of non-A-list cars get some attention and the "new-classics" are emerging all over the place. Personally, I can't wait until it trickles into the 80's with all the uber-popular G-body cars and 3rd gen F-bodies. I've got loads of ideas for them that have been brewing for years...heh heh heh.

[NOT A TA]

Nice looking design Ben. 2nd gens are really getting a lot of attention now. Great to see people pushing the limits and coming up with all kinds of ideas.

[Smock67]

Amazing rendering, I'm glad to see another Bird getting such a treatment. I will certainly be anxiously awaiting updates.

[tcronkright]

Incredible rendering! The carbon fiber details really set it off without being overdone. I like the modern and more aggressive interpretation of the fender vents. Awesome engine - the intake is certainly a centerpiece.

Great work, I will stay tuned. . .

[Rhino]

Is that wheel the TSW Strip? If so, I seriously considered it for my build. I ended up going for the Londrina.

Are you doing anything special to use the 5x120mm pattern, or just running it on the stock 5x4.75?

[Ripper]

Absolutely beautiful rendering!
Are you going to do the wided fenders too?

What headlights are you planning to use?

[Doug1]

Absolutely beautiful rendering!
Are you going to do the wided fenders too?
Yes. Only a couple of inches each way. Nothing too crazy.
What headlights are you planning to use?
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[twfurst]

Are those lights meant for the TA? Or are they going to be adapted from another?

[formula]

Those look like the same idea yearone used--adapting a set of silverado lights.

[Doug1]

Those look like the same idea yearone used--adapting a set of silverado lights.

They are Silverado lights. Seems like the best way to do it. I am using one of their 77-78 front ends but Chad will remove the double chin.

We are still weeks away from getting the rear clip. AME sent the last engineering drawing to sign off on yesterday and we aren't making any other changes. They have been very thorough in engineering this bad boy. Now I can get back to pestering Craig for some build pics!

We went with the Mac Daddy 14" Willwoods and have the wheels selected. Now to just start getting stuff in!!!

[aronhk_md]

Beautiful Doug. Are you going to be flush mounting the windshield and rear window?

I'll be watching this one closely too. I'm thrilled to see the 2nd gen birds coming into their own.

[tcronkright]

Doug, great idea with the lights. Can't wait to see updated pics.

[79TransAm]

very beautiful car. u guys make me soo jealous...

[Doug1]

Beautiful Doug. Are you going to be flush mounting the windshield and rear window?


I'll be watching this one closely too. I'm thrilled to see the 2nd gen birds coming into their own.


Yes. Front and back glass will be flush mount.


Doug, great idea with the lights. Can't wait to see updated pics.

That was Ben Hermance's idea and pretty much what Year One did on their BREs I think. My build is WAY behind yours though you are giving me something to aspire to. LOL LOVE the valve covers and intake you are having done. I may want to switch over to a turbo car verses a pro-charger after watching yours.

I doubt that intake would fit in my budget though. WOW!

[LeighP]

I'm loving watch this one come together!

[Tig]

Holy Shmoly, that guys got nuts.
Cars looking great.
That linked rear-end looks insane, very stout.

[dropped72ss]

cars comming along great! Seems these tin indians are getting popular

[aronhk_md]

Any news lately Doug? I'm very interested in that Morrison back half for my 2nd gen, though not ready to do it yet. Is it going to be a regular offering of theirs? I almost hesitate to ask...does it have a price tag?.....lol

[Doug1]

I was told that that it was scheduled to be built this week. I haven't heard any more since Craig Morrison was out of town this week. Maybe I will get some news this coming week.

[bryster]

Love all the polished engine work....Looks Killer.

[fletcherscustoms]

I heard from a little birdy that all the AME stuff is shipping Friday!! Woot Woot. Lets get to work

[705.0Merc]

That rendering looks awesome..

[TA Dave]

Amazing build, I can't wait for the updates.

Side note, the VFN 77-78 nose was molded from Ray Cox's car. While it fit Ray's car perfectly, some of the other cars didn't work out as well. Nice part, but might need some tweaking.
They also made Ray a carbon fiber nose as a one off.

[Doug1]

I got these pics a while back from Frank at Prodigy Customs. This is the rear clip being built at AME. The front and rear clip are now at Chad's place though I haven't seen any pics of the whole setup. Still crated up while he hangs out at SEMA. LOL



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[Doug1]

A few more pics I received from Art at AME. Thanks Art!

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Front and rear clip ready to ship!
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[Camikaze]

omg i wish i could weld like that :worship:

love all the work you guys have been putting into this project so far...makes me wanna go find a second gen and go to town on it. and that rendering kicks ass :firefire:

[droptop73]

It looks like the 4-link is a long way inside the framerail. What effect could that have on handling? Just curious!

[cobraguy65]

It looks like the 4-link is a long way inside the framerail. What effect could that have on handling? Just curious!

The 4-link is for straight line. converts to a 3-link for handling.

[Doug1]

Just found this one in the "pile o pics". This shows the bracing on the rear end. I have yet to see any of this in person so I am looking forward to that.

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[GM_muscle]

and i didnt think that their was any car in charleston like this. so many pontiacs but i never see them.

[whayden2003]

Wow great looking stuff. Got a couple questions I saw mention of a carbon hood and nose are these one off deals or are they going to be offered to the public.

[Doug1]

and i didnt think that their was any car in charleston like this. so many pontiacs but i never see them.

Not too many serious Pontiacs around here, though there are a few. I have to go to Summerville this afternoon to check on my Blue TA to see how the paint work is coming. I am hoping it will get sprayed tomorrow... That is far from a sure thing though. LOL

[Doug1]

Wow great looking stuff. Got a couple questions I saw mention of a carbon hood and nose are these one off deals or are they going to be offered to the public.

Anvil is already working on making these parts for another car besides mine. At least that is what I understand. I think they will be available in the near future. They already make parts for the 70-73 Trans Ams.

[GM_muscle]

get any pics of the car as it sits in paint jail?

[Doug1]

get any pics of the car as it sits in paint jail?

Speaking about my blue 79... No pics. It was supposed to be sprayed this past weekend, then yesterday and now Thursday evening... We'll see. I need it done so he can get the other two 2nd gens that he has of mine painted. He does good work but if I knew how long it was going to take, I'd have given him only one car at a time.

[ProdigyCustoms]

You have to many projects, you need to sell that 2000 WS6............to me.

[Doug1]

You are at the top the list if I decide to get rid of it! I have had a few people try to get that thing and it is under a tarp. They hear about it or ask what is under the cover and then start trying to buy it. LOL It is still sitting exactly where it was when you were here though, it hasn't moved an inch.

[whayden2003]

Do you have someone over there u are talking to at anvil. I talked to Tyler and he said they had none that they were working on. I would love to get a the bandwagon with y'all so I can be in the mixed about updates on progress.

[Doug1]

You need to talk with Chad Fletcher at Fletcher's Customs. I'm in the process of getting a late 70's hood to him so that it can be used as a mold for the carbon fiber version. I don't know who he is working with but I know they are ready to move on it now so getting the hood is somewhat urgent.

[formula]

Hmmmmmmmm maybe I'll just send Chad my formula hood with your name on the box!! Only way anyone will ever make a late year cf formie hood haha

[fletcherscustoms]

WE have some things working that are gonna be huge for these cars. I will let the manufacturer make the formal annoucement when the time comes.

[cdoggy81]

Firebird specific, camaro specific or F-body specific?
I always get a little bummed when I see a new 70-73 camaro only part....

[ed1le]

subscribed!

[fletcherscustoms]

Its not really specific at all. Its a full back half job. Although the frame is designed around the 70-81 models 2nd gens. IT requires new floor, tubs ,and fabwork in the rear.

[Doug1]

Chad is back in action on the Triple Threat car now. I'll let him fill in the details when he gets time but here is a teaser pic of the work being done right now. The rear clip should be going in this week.

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[fletcherscustoms]

Yeah we are full swing!! I forgot how much fun it is to cut the floors completly out of a car. It doesn't come out in one section. WE got the clip ready to go in the rear. Doing lots of measuring, calculations, and doing it all over again. No turning back once you get it welded in the car. So got to make sure everything is correct.

More pics coming this week

[fletcherscustoms]

Finally the long overdue update!! Its been a rough couple of months with some family medical issues, at just being swamped with everything else life can throw at you (flu, pneumonia, and now bronchitus). We finally got to concentrate 100% to this project starting last week. After roughly 10 hours with a plasma, sawzall and other assorted gadgets we got the floor cut out from the front seat mount back. We will be fabbing all new sheetmetal for the floors, trans tunnel, wheel tubs, and trunk floor. Next up came measuring, measuring, and measuring some more. The rear clip come over sized from Morrison and you cut it to fit the dimension to your liking. Once I was happy with all the measurements we then went forward with cutting off some of the front crossmember so that it would meet the measurement for inside to inside of the rockers. Before moving the clip under the car we made some 14"x 6" plates that were welded to the inner rocker structure to give something to mate the rear clip.

Once the plates were installed the clip slid under the car and right into place like it was suppossed to!! Getting all the dimensions and measurements correct is the key to this project. Once it was under the car I checked, and then double checked all the measurements again, again. Then actually decided to quit and sleep on it for night. After I was happy I proceeded to weld the front crossmember to the plates we made. The rear clip is now part of the car.

We still got some more to do before it comes off the jig table. I will be making some plates and gussets that use the rear bumper mount locations to tie into the new frame. Basically just like the factory did with the bumper to floor pieces they had installed. Once we get these plates done and welded in the car will come and go on the lift to have the front clip installed and then sit the car down on its on weight and start the sheetmetal work.

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[Procharmo]

The 4-link is for straight line. converts to a 3-link for handling.

Great engineering on the 4 link.....however several leaf spring 2nd Gen Camaros have been mid to low 7's in the 1/4. There is one that may get to the 6's on 275's. Mary's car does just fine for Protouring fun on leaf springs.......do you really need a 4/3 link or do you just want it?!!!

[Doug1]

Great engineering on the 4 link.....however several leaf spring 2nd Gen Camaros have been mid to low 7's in the 1/4. There is one that may get to the 6's on 275's. Mary's car does just fine for Protouring fun on leaf springs.......do you really need a 4/3 link or do you just want it?!!!

To offically answer your question... This entire car is 100% "WANT". Right now I am a one man show and this car is way more car than I know how to drive. I'll take it, have fun with it, drive the snot out of it whenever I can, hopefully make some new friends who are like minded pro-touring folks who I can learn from. With a little luck, I hope to be able to get some of the better drivers to hop in this thing and show me what it can really do, so I can have goals to shoot for. I am already making some new friend just in the build process. It is my escape from the daily grind.


There is little doubt that the driver is the make or break piece the puzzle. The 4 link certainly helps in drag racing more than the 3 link helps in the autocross world but a good driver can win in anything set up "close enough." I don't see many cars that can do both drag racing and autocross except for some of the newer turbo imports or Corvettes. That is not my thing though.

The other things is that this is Pro-Touring... If we just built to what we need and not what we want, you'd never see all those 6 figure rebuilds of cars worth 4 figures to begin with. While my car is not to that level, I could certainly buy a new Corvette, 380z, etc. for less than I will spend to build this thing and would have bought a more refined car. But thousands of other folks would have the same thing. Building something that can out perform most of the new muscle from old American muscle is 1/2 the fun.

[PonchoJohn]

Liking this...

[Doug1]

The latest phone pics from Chad at Fletcher's Customs. The AME frame is IN! The complete floor has pretty much been cut out now. I wouldn't recognize the car if the red steering column wasn't still in there. That will go soon enough but it is cool to see the car change around it.

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[Doug1]

The seats have been ordered. Cobra Misano 30th Anniversary Editions with the billet bling on them.

http://www.cobraseats.com/Misano

Here is Misano's own info..."The Misano 30 celebrates Cobra's 30th anniversary in manufacturing the world's finest seats. The Misano 30 is a masterpiece of automotive seat engineering, creating truly the worlds first light-weight, hybrid composite recliner. With a Carbon Fiber composite shell for the backrest, combined with high-density molded polyurethane foam, polished stainless steel chassis work and the worlds best reclining mechanism, this seat re-defines the category of light weight sport seats. The Misano 30 is the pinnacle version of the Misano models and features leather surrounds for hard wearing good looks and double stitched, cross-quilted centers for the ultimate presentation of luxury. The Misano 30 is the culmination of 30 years experience in manufacturing seats rolled into one seat alone. Bottom mount system. Available only in black leather with grey top-stitching and cross-quilting. "

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[killer67]

Killer seats!

[Ron.in.SoCal]

My absolute favorite seats. Top notch, lightweight and comfortable! I'm having a hard time pulling the trigger though. Hmmm, t56 magnum or Cobras?

[Doug1]

My absolute favorite seats. Top notch, lightweight and comfortable! I'm having a hard time pulling the trigger though. Hmmm, t56 magnum or Cobras?


Funny you say that because I recently decided on a T56 Magnum deal for this car.

[tazzz25906112]

I hear you but the seat is very nice too....

BTW Doug the 77-81 Hood and shaker molds are in production at Carbon Kustoms Ltd.... The hood and retail pricing could be available as early as later this month through Anvil Auto (ask for Matt re this product in the coming weeks)

[Ron.in.SoCal]

Funny you say that because I recently decided on a T56 Magnum deal for this car.

Doug - did you actually get a deal or was that a figure of speech?

[LeighP]

Very cool choice of seat.

[Doug1]

Doug - did you actually get a deal or was that a figure of speech?

I was referring to a Magnum with the right gearing for this car. I'll send you a PM when I find out what it costs.


Very cool choice of seat.
Thanks Leigh. Chad and Frank are good salesmen. LOL

[ProdigyCustoms]

Doug is a easy sell, "

Doug: "Is it the best?"

Frank: "Yes"

Doug: "You got my card on file!"

The Misano is a amazing seat. Cobra construction in general is unmatched by any other seat company. The Misano is not only gorgeous to look at, but super comfortable. I am having a office chair made from one (We have that available). Doug won't use a rear seat, but I am working on a matching bolstered rear seat cover to match will be smokin cool.

[ProdigyCustoms]

Doug - did you actually get a deal or was that a figure of speech?

Because of the insane horsepower Doug will be making we are going to do a built Magnum for him. He has the same problem we have with Unfair in that there really is no comfortable street transmission that can handle the dragstrip power these cars will make combined with the traction. The built magnum we are doing is running in some 850TQ cars right now, we are going to see if we can break it in Unfair and Doug's car. Hopefully boost control on Unfair and timing NOS delivery on Doug's car will let us get out of the hole without leaving the trans on the floor. But it is 1969 and we are walking on the moon on this one, so.....................

I just can't wait for the match race!

[tazzz25906112]

Frank drop me a call buddy

[srh3trinity]

Those seats are nice.

[Doug1]

I hear you but the seat is very nice too....

BTW Doug the 77-81 Hood and shaker molds are in production at Carbon Kustoms Ltd.... The hood and retail pricing could be available as early as later this month through Anvil Auto (ask for Matt re this product in the coming weeks)

Albert,

You know we have to have one of those! I have been patiently waiting to hear that good news. LOL

[tazzz25906112]

NP Doug we'll get you sorted out.....

[GM_muscle]

i need to come over and see all these birds you have.

[Scarelane]

Very cool!

[Doug1]

i need to come over and see all these birds you have.

Not much to see at the moment. I have ALL 5 of them torn apart. Chad is doing this one, 3 are getting paint and one is getting a motor overhaul right now.. Hopefully over the next couple of months they will all come home to roost.

[fletcherscustoms]

I've never been so jealous of a customer. I want those seats so bad for my car. I can hear the conversation now

Doug: hey chad my seats come in yet
Me: Naw man haven't seen its been months
Doug: wander were they are.
Picture me hot rodding all over town in my comfy new seats. lol


We are making a little headway at a time. This week was a little trying on my patience , but we got some things accomplished. Both front and rear clip are in the car. Now we are figuring out how to tie the two together. ITs been a headache. I whipped up a design last night and got them all welded together on the bench. Now to sit them up in place and see if I like it or not.

[Doug1]

Double post. Mod's please delete this post.

[Doug1]

I've never been so jealous of a customer. I want those seats so bad for my car. I can hear the conversation now

Doug: hey chad my seats come in yet
Me: Naw man haven't seen its been months
Doug: wander were they are.
Picture me hot rodding all over town in my comfy new seats. lol


Yeah, Chad is trying to get me to trade my new Cobra Milano's for
these "one off" Recaro seats he has now.
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[Krazed]

You know Doug, The BMW doesnt deserve those seats. They would fit perfectly in your Pink Barbi Mustang GT! Or is that your "Wife's" car, or so you tell the guys?
:rotfl:

[fletcherscustoms]

Man if you new how much I paid for those seats. You would really see how good of a deal your getting. Man just the time I got in fabricating the seat brackets are worth more the those crappy Milanos, alone!!! They also have great seating position for those t-tops of your, you be able to get up and above that windshield and have a great view down at all the cones you'll be taking out trying to keep up with me sitting my new crappy Milanos!!

[Doug1]

You know Doug, The BMW doesnt deserve those seats. They would fit perfectly in your Pink Barbi Mustang GT! Or is that your "Wife's" car, or so you tell the guys?
:rotfl:

Fords and BMWs? Not at my house. The Cobra's are for the Triple Threat car. Those Recaro's are Chad's! ;-)


Man if you new how much I paid for those seats. You would really see how good of a deal your getting. Man just the time I got in fabricating the seat brackets are worth more the those crappy Milanos, alone!!! They also have great seating position for those t-tops of your, you be able to get up and above that windshield and have a great view down at all the cones you'll be taking out trying to keep up with me sitting my new crappy Milanos!!

Okay. But can you paint them a different color so they will match the interior and can you throw in a set of goggles for both seats? LOL

[Doug1]

New pictures! Hot off the press from Chad.

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[The Stickman]

That is some serious hardware under that car. Very nice.

[fletcherscustoms]

We have been in a holding pattern for a few weeks waiting on the some parts. Finally things are showing up so work has started again. Received a couple of boxes full of parts from Moser yesterday to finish up there rear end and make the car into a roller. My first time dealing with 35 spline axles, wow there freaking huge, but a 1000 ft lb of torque motor there gonna be needed. Also a pic of the 9" Moser Aluminum "through bolt" center section, with 35 spline Wave-Trac, 1350 series aluminum yoke, and Aluminum pinion support.

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I took a a wheel off my car and threw it on the back just to get a idea of what it looks like. Its a 20x13 with a 345 on it, and we got a easy 3" of clearance left.

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The car is setup for a 6" rocker height at Ride height, gonna be crazy low. Here it sitting at about 7.5" last night. I couldn't get it off the lift arm to get it sat down all the way.
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[WS6]

6" ride height? Now I'm really jealous. Also curious too. Will there be enough clearance so that the rear wheels don't come up into the fenders and bottom out or do you have a solution to that problem?

[fletcherscustoms]

The rear will be flared like the render for clearance

[rfalker1]

this is nice. I want to see it finished already. Love the ride height and the attention to detail. I will be awesome

[LeighP]

Very cool....can't wait to see it finished.

[Doug1]

Neither can I! Chad is hard at it so look to see more updates shortly.

[fletcherscustoms]

Here's some weak old updates. I've been a little slow working the last few weeks. Was out of town for ten days, then sick, now my wife is in Africa for 10 days on a mission trip so I am pulling daddy duty 24/7 with the two kids.

I struggled with how and what to do for subframe connectors. Cause there were some issues that had to be addressed. The low ride height, not getting way up inside the car, and clearance under neath for everything else. I studied, and studied, I made parts, I made more parts, only to finally decide on something so simple a "cave man could do it". To keep it simple I simply used (2) pieces of 1 5/8" .120 wall DOM tubing that I seam welded together, then fired up the new CNC plasma and made some simple (4) bolt flanges , and got everything welded together. Car is now tied together, and the flanges still allow me to be able to remove the subframe, for painting and for any future things. The KISS principal at its finest (keep it simple stupid)!! I am making some simple weld on brackets to put on each end where is welded to give a little more weld area and kind of a double shear affect on the mounting locations

We are waiting on some parts to show up like trans, exhaust parts, and seats. Then I can start building and fabricating the floor structure and floors them selves. anyway on to the pictures

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[aronhk_md]

Nicely and simply done chad. Just goes to show you dont have to throw big $ at a problem all the time to get a clean, good looking and effective solution. I too am modifying my previously welded in subframe connectors to be removeable using a similar 4 bolt end plate. I am going to be running a tube through the firewall from the roll cage going forward to the subframe near the A-arms.......not sure if I can go forward of the A-arms yet. Either way it will be bolt together there too to allow removal if necessary.

[LeighP]

I agree....nice simple, clean solution....way to go!

[Doug1]

New parts! Custom built Fuel Safe racing fuel cell

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[LeighP]

Very nice. So its a trunk floor drop through mount?
I was thinking how a vertical tank fitted above the axle, in the area behind the rear seat, might be nice from a safety point of view...recessed flip open filler in the sail panel area.
But then you have the issue of carrying X weight of fuel 18-24" higher than where it would mount at floor level, which would surely not help the triple threat plan at all, lol.

[fletcherscustoms]

Got a little accomplished over the weekend. Between blowing a seal on the two post lift hydro cylinder and almost dumping the car, and then my $20,000 plasma cnc machine crashing on me, it was a rather eventful weekend. Excuse oil dry in the pictures. When the cylinder blew, it sprayed everything within 30 feet with hydraulic oil. So we has quite a mess of oil dry everywhere trying to clean it up.

Any on to the details. I have been a little worried about structural rigidity of the body itself, with it no longer having the floor structure and all the factory cross members and bracing that are apart of the floor. So I cooked up the idea to reinforce the rockers. Fired up the plasma and cut a couple pieces of 1/8" plate to match the rocker from toe panel to where they meet the new morrision rear clip. Fully seam welded on the top and at the bottom at the lower rocker area. Then is that wasn't enough, took a couple pieces 1.75" DOM tubing , notched the ends to meet up with the subframe connectors made earlier and then welded them off to the new rocker structure. Should be plenty strong now. Only thing left to do is make a body mount plate for the rear subframe mount and get it on the car.

Also got a 1 square tubing structure built and welded up for the fuel cell

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[fletcherscustoms]

Trying to get everything fitted and in position before I start floors. That way I can get exhaust tucked up in car as high as possible, so in turn we can keep a low ride height. Basically building from trans crossmember all the the way to the back of the car. PLans are for the exhaust to exit between inner quarter and rear frame rails. Almost exactly like it would stock but the way I am building it actually will go up into trunk a little and completely over the rear suspension setup and out of the way. Still got a good bit to go but getting closer. Mixture of parts laying around, some new old 3" stainless Flowmaster tubing I had laying around, some leftover Pypes bends from Ty's car, Stainless Works 3" v-band clamps and some new pieces from here and there. You can also see the plasma cut hangars I designed to mount the exhaust to the crossmembers. There will be a 6' long stainless flex connector installed between headers and the front trans x-member to take care of engine movement. I am mig weldeding everything, and then will come back and fully polish the welds once completed then sent to a local company here for ceramic coating

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[Doug1]

Here are a few pics from a few weeks back. I have to check with Chad to see how she is coming. The transmission finally arrived so she should start moving along again since that was holding things up.

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[LeighP]

Coming along nicely, Doug!

[Doug1]

Here is the latest. Chad had some stuff come up like we all do and things slowed down for a while. He's back in the saddle now and expects to have the fabrication done by the end of the year. Pics from several weeks ago. These are DSE tubs that had 2" added to them.


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[Doug1]

Hydyne Motorsports is custom making a set of one off wheels. Here are the centers fresh from cutting. They will be polished and then anodized a dark grey.

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Here is a link to their website
http://www.hydynemotorsport.com/

[Dirtleg]

Wow I really like this build. Nice work.

[Doug1]

A few more pics from Chad's cell phone. Engine and transmission finallygetting fitted to the car. It looks like the engine will need to go back into the firewall several inches so it can drop in back of the rack and pinion. More work but it should help with the handling a bit. The transmission crossmember is going to have to move back a few inches as well.

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[aronhk_md]

Looks wild Doug.

[Doug1]

Going to have to get Ron to build a set of headers for this thing!

[aronhk_md]

will the stock design for 70-81 fit it? I'm guessing the ones you ordered from Ron wont be enough? I know Roger Bolliger has a set on his 700 hp Butler Jerry Titus TA clone car. My HO Racing Tri-y's were only 1 5/8" and they squeezed out well over 1000 on my car, but the turbo helped :D

[Doug1]

No. Those won't work on this car due to the pipe diameter. Ron said he would like to make a set for it once he gets caught up. I'd love to have his work on this build though just to help showcase his work.

[surreyboy]

Nice build! Really cool that you are running a pontiac engine.

[bhcustomdesigns]

Man I love this car great build cant wait to see it done!!!! :twothumbs

[LeighP]

Yeah, its going to be damned cool!!!!

[fletcherscustoms]

I have been a little lazy on updates. The car has progressed over the past few months, and some design changes have been altered and some big changes to make this car one of a kind are beginning.

Wheel tubs, I kept to the KISS rule and used a off the shelf set of DSE tubs, and added a 2.5" strip to the center to widen them to meet up with the AME rails in the back. WE now have room for a 15" wide tire with room to spare. My 345's had 2" clearance inside.

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[fletcherscustoms]

SO now lets talk about Motor placement!! How about a full 12.25" of setback!!! This requires full rework of the firewall, cowl section, some of the dash, and lots of fab work of the mounts. Lots of head scratching and yelling with Jerry but I finally came up with something I am happy with

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[Bryce]

Looking good and you can adjust the timing from the drivers seat!

[fletcherscustoms]

makes it easier to keep in tune that way, and take out a few degrees when we hit the go button

[1977TRANSAM]

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Who makes this timing chain cover?

[Doug1]

Who makes this timing chain cover?

The timing cover is made by R.A.R.E. If you go to their website, you get get is polished or unpolished IIRC.

Also, I just got word from Chad that the car actually is making some progress again. Hopefully he'll jump on here and post some updates.

[LeighP]

Glad its pushing ahead, mate!

[1977TRANSAM]

The timing cover is made by R.A.R.E. If you go to their website, you get get is polished or unpolished IIRC.

Also, I just got word from Chad that the car actually is making some progress again. Hopefully he'll jump on here and post some updates.

Thank you for the info. May have to add that to my wish list.
Has anyone written a review of how it works? aka quality of product and cooling

[LeighP]

They allow you to mount your choice of any Small Block Chev waterpump in place of a Pontiac one.

[aronhk_md]

duplicate....sorry

[aronhk_md]

The small block chevy pump is a better pump, period. A definite improvement. Not to mention 4 bolts and easy to change out. I would have gone this route if I hadnt already purchased the March Track Serpentine system. Doug.....we need to get your car and mine together for pics when done. We both have an AWFUL lot of shiny stuff. lol

[1977TRANSAM]

I meant how efficient the sbc pump was compared to the pontiac

[Ripper]

is this project still active?

[fletcherscustoms]

yes. I am downsizing my shop and the amount of customer work I'm doing basically do to family and time. So Doug, myself and Dan Hollohan decided to move the car to Dan's shop

[LUV2XLR8]

build looks great man.. love the rendering...

[Doug1]

Well, as with all such projects, this one is taking a long and winding road to get to completion. The car is back at my home now as Chad was unable to finish the car. Took it to Dan Holohan for an assessment and he gave me the unvarnished truth. Basically, I have a lot of really cool parts and a lot of problems to solve.

So at first I decided to just sell it off for parts and start over but since then I have had a change of heart and decided to do this as a general contractor type job. I'll sub out the stuff I don't feel comfortable doing and do the rest myself.

Here are some "as it sits" photos...
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[Ron.in.SoCal]

Way to hang in there Doug. You'll get 'er done! :cheers:

[Doug1]

One of Dan's suggestions that I liked was to make this a full frame car so the body can be removed in order to powdercoat the chassis. I'll get rid of the round tube stuff that was added in which I highlighted in the large blue oval and tie the front and back chassis together with the same tubing used by AME. The tie in within the small blue oval will be left though I prefer to use something other than round tubing since it just doesn't fit well visually with rest of the frame.
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Then we'll cut the frame loose from the body in the only other point it is welded in, which is where the cross member hits the rockers. See area highlighted in red.
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I'll put plates on the ends of the frame crossmembers and matching plates in the rockers and have it bolt in there.

Then we'll cut the fuel cell "basket" that was fabricated loose and move it forward a few inches in order to trim the rear frame rails to the proper length and move the cross rail back so it can sit behind the rear pan without interfering with the bumper mounts as it does now.
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Once these are located properly, I'll put end plates in place with bolt holes that will allow the endplates, body and bumper supports to all be held together with the same 4 bolts on each side.

[Daren]

A poncho power plant relocated further (significantly) back so as to reduce unsprung weight = Super cool build.

Is that crank pully readily available on the AM or is that a custom job? The Vintage AC bracket does not make AC belt selection easy if the vintage belt is lost or broken.

[Doug1]

A poncho power plant relocated further (significantly) back so as to reduce unsprung weight = Super cool build.

Is that crank pully readily available on the AM or is that a custom job? The Vintage AC bracket does not make AC belt selection easy if the vintage belt is lost or broken.


It is readily available. This one came from SD Performance, though I know Butler Performance and several other places have them as well.

[Doug1]

Duplicate

[Doug1]

Okay, I've met with multiple local fabricators now and have a pretty good plan in place. After so many people have advised, I am considering moving the engine forward closer to the stock position, but still have not decided on that.

I'm definitely going to make the car a solid frame with a bolt on body. I'll contact Art Morrison Enterprises and see if they have any suggestions to do this a different way other than what I have planned. Currently we have 4 bolt on areas planned for each side and will build an structural cage welded to the inside of the body shell. Since there will be numerous places in the top from which the car could be lifted using the cage, I am going to look for some sort of inserts that can be popped out and then have eye hooks that screw into permanently welded in attachement points. Just need to figure out how to make that look good.

So the tenative date to start fabrication will be in February, if the fabricator finishes up his current work by then. We have a few other interesting things going into this interior fabrication including a removable rear panel than will allow access to the 4 link area which will have a matching panel with a lexan insert to use for shows.

Going to be a different car for sure.

While I am waiting on the fabricator to get to the frame changes and interior sheetmetal, I will now go in search of a body guy capable of stretching the fenders to allow room for the big tires to sit more flush with the sides.

[LeighP]

Good to see your ideas progressing, Doug....it'll all come good in the end. :)

[syborg tt]

Hi Doug

Any updates on the car ??

[GregWeld]

Hi Doug

Any updates on the car ??



Marty -- Like anything Chad Fletcher touched --- he managed to mangle another project (I call it "fletchered" now around my shop). Pretty hard to recover from stuff like that. Kinda takes the wind out of your sails.

[syborg tt]

Marty -- Like anything Chad Fletcher touched --- he managed to mangle another project (I call it "fletchered" now around my shop). Pretty hard to recover from stuff like that. Kinda takes the wind out of your sails.

I feel bad for Ty also as he is still fixing all of the problems with his car. It almost needs to be on Overhaulin to get redone.

[cknautz]

Any updates lately?