Anybody own a GMC Terrain?

[absintheisfun]

I'm looking to get a new daily, and I want/need a small SUV that is NOT a soccer mom's car. I have owned several Blazers, so I am comfortable in the size of smaller SUV's. I am really liking the GMC Terrain, but there are a couple of other contenders as well. I would like to hear from the folks I trust on their thoughts of owning one for a while.

The contenders (in order) and their flaws:
1. GMC Terrain - don't know of any....????
2. Toyota FJ Cruiser - have a Toyota now, and not happy with the Company lately, bad visibility
3. Jeep Liberty/Dodge Nitro - kinda tired of the styling, and low reliability

I plan on owning this for a long fairly long time and while the GMC Terrain is a bit more $$, it has incredible mileage for a SUV. So I'm thinking that over the life of ownership it will be cheaper.
I don't plan on using the truck to tow a vehicle, but it would be nice to be able to hook up a small trailer to haul parts/scrap so a little bit of tow rating is needed.

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Thanks!

[Tony_SS]

Consider an HHR SS if you want a compact SUV.

Depending on MPG, I would consider the Toyota FJ too. They look like a fun truck to own.. 4WD is nice too, around here anyway.

[absintheisfun]

Consider an HHR SS if you want a compact SUV.

Depending on MPG, I would consider the Toyota FJ too. They look like a fun truck to own.. 4WD is nice too, around here anyway.

I looked at the HHR SS, but it was ruled out because of a lack of 4wd, and "grocery getter" feel. The Terrain has an AWD model.

Should have mentioned that AWD/4WD is a requirement-sorry

[79PonchoUK]

Has to be the GMC. It's going to be the best built, and if the engine is the one I'm thinking of then i doubt it will give any trouble.

[Chevrolaine]

Looking at the Terrain also and the only one that gets decent mileage is the FWD/4 cylinder model.
The AWD will probably be no better than the Blazers you've had.

Haven't sat in one, but I've heard the FJ's have a horrible blind spot out the front with the huge A Pillars but in pics they look no worse than the others??

I currently have a Liberty and really can't complain about anything other than the mileage. Been a good vehicle.

[Tony_SS]

They are claiming 17/24.. so real world mpg is 15 city for the AWD Terrain. That sucks IMO. I guess I'm spoiled with an actual 27/33mpg HHR.

Also, why is an AWD needed in Texas?

[CamaroAJ]

whats the warranty on the other two? gm is 5yr/100,000 powertrain. thats a good warranty too, it even covers hubs on non drive wheels.

[absintheisfun]

Haven't sat in one, but I've heard the FJ's have a horrible blind spot out the front with the huge A Pillars but in pics they look no worse than the others??


I have heard the same about the visibility as well


whats the warranty on the other two? gm is 5yr/100,000 powertrain. thats a good warranty too, it even covers hubs on non drive wheels.

I believe it is 5/60,000 for both others. I am going to be doing some test driving on them this week. I look at styling first (If I'm going to be driving it, I want to enjoy the aesthetics)

[Nomad_K]

I was looking at all three of these as well.

FJ - built on a truck chassis so it can actually go off-road, great aftermarket, good towing capacity, economy isn't brilliant but you can get 20+ on the highway without too much fuss. I just drove one this past weekend, and while I heard about the visibility, I didn't have any issues, perhaps because I spent a little extra time looking around, who knows. The FJ is rated to tow 5000 lbs, and having a little experience with that engine in a Toyota Hilux (not a ****ing Tacoma - rant for another time about Toyota's US division), I like that engine better than the one in the Liberty. That said...

The Jeep Liberty is also a proper off-road vehicle that you can daily drive. While the Liberty is not built on a 'truck' chassis, it is not a car-based platform either, just a unibody designed to go off-road. Towing capacity of up to 5000 lbs but the engine (imho after a drive) is not up to 5000 lbs unless you are doing a nice flat run. For a trailer here and there though, I would have no issues with the Liberty, and I am considering one of these as well.

GMC Terrain - I looked at these, and at first glance on paper, this looked like the best option! But you only get the high mileage with a front wheel drive 4-cylinder which has little towing capacity (1500 lbs). If you add in the 4wd and the 6-cylinder, you can tow up to 3500 lbs (less than the Liberty or the FJ), but you don't have much/any off-road capability, and you loose the mileage you were after (V6 AWD 17/24 mpg). If you want to avoid the soccer-mom look, the Terrain will work for appearances I guess, but when it comes to what lurks under the hood and body...

[gtoroadracer]

I have a GMC Terrain, it is actually my wife's car. What a great vehicle!! I own a 2002 GMC 3500 and she has the 2010 GMC terrain so I guess you can say we are a gmc family. It has the 4 cyl ECO tec and it goes pretty good, if you want it to really go get the v-6 we drove that one first and it did go very well, but since it was going to be mainly her car she did not need the v-6. We got the SLE-2 package and it has everything we needed, great riding car and it handles very well. good luck

[Nomad_K]

I have a GMC Terrain, it is actually my wife's car. What a great vehicle!! I own a 2002 GMC 3500 and she has the 2010 GMC terrain so I guess you can say we are a gmc family. It has the 4 cyl ECO tec and it goes pretty good, if you want it to really go get the v-6 we drove that one first and it did go very well, but since it was going to be mainly her car she did not need the v-6. We got the SLE-2 package and it has everything we needed, great riding car and it handles very well. good luck

Then the Terrain would be the perfect daily driver if you needed some extra room!

Back on topic, does the 4 cylinder actually pull 30+ on the highway?

[absintheisfun]

Good points Nomad...very good.

The AWD/4WD isn't so much for offroading, just nice to have a vehicle that has the ability when it is needed...in Dallas, it will be used maybe twice a decade, but there are many trips to Colorado to think of. AWD/4WD is just nice to have for peace of mind!

I'm looking at the V6 AWD Terrain, so I know I'll get a large loss on the MPG. I'll test drive both the 4 and 6 to see if there is a worthy enough difference to justify the price diff/loss of mpg.

Another factor that adds to the GMC is that I'm excited to be excited about GM products again. But...it is manufactured in Canada, whereas the Jeep is made in Ohio, but Jeep is now owned by Fiat. The Toyota is made in Japan.

Soooo, I could give my money to an American company paying Canadian wages, or an Italian Company paying American wages or a Japanese company paying Japanese wages.

[Nomad_K]

Good points Nomad...very good.

The AWD/4WD isn't so much for offroading, just nice to have a vehicle that has the ability when it is needed...in Dallas, it will be used maybe twice a decade, but there are many trips to Colorado to think of. AWD/4WD is just nice to have for peace of mind!

I'm looking at the V6 AWD Terrain, so I know I'll get a large loss on the MPG. I'll test drive both the 4 and 6 to see if there is a worthy enough difference to justify the price diff/loss of mpg.

Another factor that adds to the GMC is that I'm excited to be excited about GM products again. But...it is manufactured in Canada, whereas the Jeep is made in Ohio, but Jeep is now owned by Fiat. The Toyota is made in Japan.

Soooo, I could give my money to an American company paying Canadian wages, or an Italian Company paying American wages or a Japanese company paying Japanese wages.

As for where to send your money, it is a tough choice, I know!

As for the thoughts, man, I've wasted too much time looking, so if I can help anyone save some time, that's great! Just to make things a little easier, if you really want an AWD/4WD option, moderate towing, and don't need to go on more than a dirt path, the V6 RAV4 with a tow package will pull 3500 lbs, get 19 in the city, and 26 mpg on the highway. Those figures are better than many AWD cars unless you look at non-turbo four cylinder Subarus, and I don't find those to be much fun going up a mountain. For the price, economy and moderate but acceptable pulling power, the RAV4 makes a lot of sense if you are staying on the pavement.

[ArtosDracon]

Have you looked at the ford flex AWD, they're butter to drive and the interior is very nice.

I happen to really like the look of the terrain too though.

[MonzaRacer]

OK first of all, dont go into debt on a daily driver. Find a decent car/truck to rack up miles on, pay cash, keep it in the 1 to 1.5 year of car payments range in value as it wont be getting more valuable. think of putting it in shop, new brakes if it hasnt had them, new good tires, major tuneup, service the fluids etc.
3 to 5 yr old low mileage vehicle would be better for mileage accumulation.
Save for a new car to have for good, put car payments in bank till you get $15k to $30k saved, then go find a newer vehicle and pay cash.
Just remember debt it dumb cash is king.
Get this a local Ford dealer sold a Roush Blackjack for $25k cash to move it! Kid worked 3 yrs this way and has a hot car for nothing a month except full coverage insurance.
And he has a daily beater that works, has all essentials working.
I have a car that was given to me when I was down, needs some small things but it gets me there, its cheap and gets good mileage. its a 91 Cavalier and gets 85miles a day put on it.
Oh and has cold AC!
Trust me a daily that costs money isnt valuable, get a beater for that and save for good weekender/project.
JUst a thought from a guy who used to think paying for a car to drive daily was cool.

[Tony_SS]

Then the Terrain would be the perfect daily driver if you needed some extra room!

Back on topic, does the 4 cylinder actually pull 30+ on the highway?

We have an HHR with a 4cyl ECOtec and get about 32 on the hwy. We also have the 48,xxx miles on the original tires. Thats the other drawback with an AWD, it'll eat up the tires.

It's a challenge to get one car to do everything.. but I get its cheaper than having 2!

[FULMNTE]

When my wife needed a new small SUV earlier this year, here is what we tested:

Hyundai Santa Fe - build in USA
Kia Sorrento - build in USA
Honda CR-V - build in USA
Chevy Equinox/GMC Terrain - NOT build in USA (Canada) :eek:

We got the Honda CR-V (proudly made in Ohio) for $400 below invoice, the Chevy/GMC was too new and the dealers did not want to go much below MSRP.

Wife is very happy with the CR-V, by the way...

[ArtosDracon]

If you're going to complain about them not being built in the USA, you have to also consider where the profits go. Go buy a GM so they can pay back your tax money that the government leant them, lol.

[nullshine]

Hyundai Santa Fe - build in USA
Kia Sorrento - build in USA
Honda CR-V - build in USA
Chevy Equinox/GMC Terrain - NOT build in USA (Canada) :eek:


Whoa whoa whoa... are you trying to tell me that Canada ISN'T part of the USA? When did that happen?

[dadto2jays]

FJ Cruiser would be my choice of course I am bias as I work for Toyota for 23 years and know how great these trucks are.

[79PonchoUK]

If you're going to complain about them not being built in the USA, you have to also consider where the profits go. Go buy a GM so they can pay back your tax money that the government leant them, lol.

That's it, a japanese company may employ US workers, but the profits still go to a japan. If you buy GM, then the US workers may end up out of a job with toyota...but if GM are doing well, they'll be happier manufacturing parts closer to home.

Remember, a japanese company is wealthy....it's wealthy because of the people who buy their cars. That wealth is in japan, not the USA, even if it does pay some wages there.

[Tony_SS]

How is GM's wealth here at home if they aren't paying wages here? With their USA funded bailout, they invested heavily in their overseas operations.

At least foreign companies are investing here and paying wages here and not necessarily union wages.

[absintheisfun]

FJ Cruiser would be my choice of course I am bias as I work for Toyota for 23 years and know how great these trucks are.

I have also heard that the FJ has severely underpowered rear axle gears, and that any towing tears them up....
(unfounded, no proof...just what I have heard 'round the watercooler).
Anything you could tell me about the pros and cons would be appreciated, and taken as "flame-free" info. Just wanting the best vehicle to last me.



--Treed, love the avatar! Very sad to see the last show ever at NINJA in Austin...been to every show since PHM in 91 at Lallapalooza.

[Kenova]

Another factor that adds to the GMC is that I'm excited to be excited about GM products again. But...it is manufactured in Canada, whereas the Jeep is made in Ohio, but Jeep is now owned by Fiat. The Toyota is made in Japan.
Well, if it makes you feel any better, I'm a GM of Canada retiree and I bought my wife a Liberty as a daily driver. Now that I think of it, my 2004 Silverado was built in the US.

This is the way the North American market works. I work(ed) for GM of Canada building vehicles for the USA, but the vast majority of GM vehicles purchased by my co-workers and I are US built.

It works the same way across manufacturers. My neighbor was apologetic for buying a Ford. I simply pointed out to him that by buying the Ford he was providing employment to someone who bought one of the very trucks that I helped build.

I don't even want to think about the origins of all the components that go into a car or truck. Mexico comes to mind, a lot.

Ken

[absintheisfun]

Well, if it makes you feel any better, I'm a GM of Canada retiree and I bought my wife a Liberty as a daily driver. Now that I think of it, my 2004 Silverado was built in the US.

This is the way the North American market works. I work(ed) for GM of Canada building vehicles for the USA, but the vast majority of GM vehicles purchased by my co-workers and I are US built.

It works the same way across manufacturers. My neighbor was apologetic for buying a Ford. I simply pointed out to him that by buying the Ford he was providing employment to someone who bought one of the very trucks that I helped build.

I don't even want to think about the origins of all the components that go into a car or truck. Mexico comes to mind, a lot.

Ken

true...

[79PonchoUK]

How is GM's wealth here at home if they aren't paying wages here? With their USA funded bailout, they invested heavily in their overseas operations.

At least foreign companies are investing here and paying wages here and not necessarily union wages.

This will sound like a rant...it's not really... but apologies in advance...

GM employs twice as many americans as Toyota. GM asked the US government for a bailout, toyota asked the japanese government for a bail out.

GM's payroll pumps $8 billion a year into its assembly workers' pockets. Directly or indirectly, it supports nearly 900,000 jobs When GM filed for bankruptcy, your whole economy flinched. GM is an ingrained part of your society, your culture and your history.

The idea that you step over that to buy a japanese car giving the japanese government their money back - not to mention their pride - before your own....seems a bit like you're bending reality to suit your argument.
Not everything on GM vehicles is made in the US, they may not even be assembled in the US, GM has to compete with the japanese when it comes to supplier and production costs. Your unions and the global market make that hard to do on home soil...the japanese do exactly the same, yet it doesn't matter as long as the right parts are done in such a way as to legally say that it's 'made in america'.
The thing is though, if twice as many people work for GM in the US, and the the sales figures are very similar, it's safe to say GM vehicles are about twice as much 'made in the USA' as toyota vehicles.

The workforce numbers alone allow you cut through the marketing crap.

I can't subscribe to the idea that GM isn't american anymore than I subscribed to the death of the motor industry here in the UK, which had similar hallmarks to what I see of yours.....Journalists, blatently jumping on whichever bandwagon is running at the time, unions that should have been expelled decades ago and people who lost all pride in their motor industry simply because they've been told to by the 'experts' who actually display a very limited understanding of the bigger picture.

Your motor industry will continue to struggle in the same way and will eventually meet the same fate as ours as long as americans keep passing on second-hand offshoots of misinformation about it.




So...if you can't decide, buy GM, ford or chrysler...if anyone questions that it's american, just tell them they're traitors. :lol:




PS. The largest Toyota plant in europe is 10 minutes away from me...it employs thousands of people around here, some of whom are friends. I've thought about this argument a **** load and can't come to any other conclusion. Toyota is japanese....the more you hear about it from employees, particularly the number of japanese born management they have there, there more it dawns on you.
I'm a big fan of local business....my own business uses local suppliers wherever it can, so why don't I embrace that? 1: IT'S JAPANESE, not british....2: 10 years ago, about 40 miles away there used to be a huge Rover factory.....used to be.






There is another arguement here though....the FJ is retro.....retro is cool. :lol:

[Tony_SS]

Other than paying waging in Canada and Mexico, the unions are GM's problem. I have no brand loyalties, I'm a free market guy and I'll buy a good product first, no matter who puts it out.

Anyway.. back on topic.

[72ratnova]

my aunt has a FWD terrain with the 6cyl. and she loves it, the seating in them are very comfortable and super easy to get into the backseat(my dad is a bigger guy and its easy for him) and last week she took it on the highway and its got a lot of get up and go because she was going 82mph and didnt even feel like it

[dadto2jays]

I have also heard that the FJ has severely underpowered rear axle gears, and that any towing tears them up....
(unfounded, no proof...just what I have heard 'round the watercooler).
Anything you could tell me about the pros and cons would be appreciated, and taken as "flame-free" info. Just wanting the best vehicle to last me.



--Treed, love the avatar! Very sad to see the last show ever at NINJA in Austin...been to every show since PHM in 91 at Lallapalooza.


The FJ cruiser speaking from experience here in South florida I have seen one with a blown rear end. FJ cruiser is a solid vehicle I have not really seen any issues.
Anyhow here are some interesting links on FJ cruisers..
http://www.offroaders.com/directory/toyota/FJ-Cruiser.htm

http://www.toyota.com/fjcruiser/

[79PonchoUK]

Other than paying waging in Canada and Mexico, the unions are GM's problem. I have no brand loyalties, I'm a free market guy and I'll buy a good product first, no matter who puts it out.

Anyway.. back on topic.

I know what you mean...

The GM is a good product though, and we're talking about not being able to decide between the two.

[surlyjoe]

Well here is my two cents. Make sure you really check into the fuel mileage, I wish I did. 2 years ago we were looking for a small to medium suv.

My wife really liked the patriot and by my calculations of the mileage and how long we would keep it, it made sense over a used bigger suv. Well 2 years and 20k later it is not even close to advertised mileage, has never approached the number in any driving condition. Wife's commute is 30 miles at 50-55 mph. It is an all wheel drive with a 5 speed. Rated at 30 on the highway but gets 25 at best usually 23.

I started checking the forums and complained to the dealership and found that our patriot is getting the same mileage as every other one. So will the terrain pull 30, maybe the fwd, but try and find at least a few people that own one to confirm.

If I had to do it over again I would look at a used cayenne s or touraeg. A used cayenne can be had in the 20's in mint shape. Tow rating is over 5000 lbs, mileage will beat the liberty and fj, reliability is good from what I found, interior is better than the toyota, liberty or terrain.

[Nomad_K]

Well here is my two cents. Make sure you really check into the fuel mileage, I wish I did. 2 years ago we were looking for a small to medium suv.

My wife really liked the patriot and by my calculations of the mileage and how long we would keep it, it made sense over a used bigger suv. Well 2 years and 20k later it is not even close to advertised mileage, has never approached the number in any driving condition. Wife's commute is 30 miles at 50-55 mph. It is an all wheel drive with a 5 speed. Rated at 30 on the highway but gets 25 at best usually 23.

I started checking the forums and complained to the dealership and found that our patriot is getting the same mileage as every other one. So will the terrain pull 30, maybe the fwd, but try and find at least a few people that own one to confirm.

If I had to do it over again I would look at a used cayenne s or touraeg. A used cayenne can be had in the 20's in mint shape. Tow rating is over 5000 lbs, mileage will beat the liberty and fj, reliability is good from what I found, interior is better than the toyota, liberty or terrain.

Thank you for the Patriot update - you saved me from reading up on those as the only draw over a Liberty or Wrangler was the economy.

The Cayenne is a beast - kick@$$ Porsche V8, proper transfer case with low range, and a well designed suspension that can clear quite a bit with the factory air lift. It has a few issues, but they are known and most can be taken care of with a little preventive maintenance.

[79PonchoUK]

Well here is my two cents. Make sure you really check into the fuel mileage, I wish I did. 2 years ago we were looking for a small to medium suv.

My wife really liked the patriot and by my calculations of the mileage and how long we would keep it, it made sense over a used bigger suv. Well 2 years and 20k later it is not even close to advertised mileage, has never approached the number in any driving condition. Wife's commute is 30 miles at 50-55 mph. It is an all wheel drive with a 5 speed. Rated at 30 on the highway but gets 25 at best usually 23.

I started checking the forums and complained to the dealership and found that our patriot is getting the same mileage as every other one. So will the terrain pull 30, maybe the fwd, but try and find at least a few people that own one to confirm.

If I had to do it over again I would look at a used cayenne s or touraeg. A used cayenne can be had in the 20's in mint shape. Tow rating is over 5000 lbs, mileage will beat the liberty and fj, reliability is good from what I found, interior is better than the toyota, liberty or terrain.


How do you figure the mileage of a cayenne will be any better than the liberty or FJ?

On another US forum I used to visit, it was pretty common of americans looking to buy a car to look at british reviews of cars (top gear, for example) they were comparing in the US. Obviously they looked at MPG and used that as a comparison with their vehicles.....completely oblivious to the difference in MPG between the two nations.

We had skylines getting the same mileage as a matiz at one point. :lol:

[absintheisfun]

Well...I have an FJ Cruiser. I went to the dealership and got a BVA (Borrowed Vehicle Agreement) for 48 hours.

On Friday I take it back and then go down the road to the GMC Dealership to do the same thing--already spoke with them on the phone and made arrangements.

I'll be honest, I am really not a fan of Toyota for the way they handled their recent series of recalls, and because of that I said I would never own another Toyota. HOWEVER, I am having a really, really hard time finding reasons that I don't like this vehicle. It is underpowered (0-60 leaves much to be desired), and the MPG is rather low (21). According to several boards, the running average is 17-19 which is a hole bunch better than my Typhoon, and I can use cheap gas with this!

The truck has polorizing "love it or hate it" looks, but I gotta admit I really do like the appearance. The interior really drew me in. It is very "function over form" even though the designers went a little crazy with the whole "lets make this look rugged" theme. The back doors are kind of a novelty, and don't really have a whole lot of functionality but oh well. The storage is enough for my needs.

So for here and now, it is hard to say bad things about it. I'll have the Terrain tomorrow afternoon to compare it.

Also, the resale on these things is rediculous! I fully planned on getting a Used one with <10K Miles, but hell....a used 2007 with 30K miles is $28,000.00. That is insane!! I've priced a brand new 2010 with the options I want and I can get it for $29,850. It is actually not worth buying used!

[Tony_SS]

I'm seeing used ones around here for $20k with low miles... so you might want to check used with private sellers as well.

Between sales tax and massive depreciation, I've vowed never to buy new again.

[surlyjoe]

How do you figure the mileage of a cayenne will be any better than the liberty or FJ?

Well they are all basically rated the same ~20 highway. So in my book v8 power at the same mileage is a win but you got me. For my driving style the porsche probably would do a bit better because I wouldn't have the thing to the floor all the time.

[absintheisfun]

How do you figure the mileage of a cayenne will be any better than the liberty or FJ?

Well they are all basically rated the same ~20 highway. So in my book v8 power at the same mileage is a win but you got me. For my driving style the porsche probably would do a bit better because I wouldn't have the thing to the floor all the time.

Cayenne was never in the picture...to me, it is nothing more than a "Big Cooper"...and a bit too much of a status symbol.

[MrQuick]

with out stepping into a USA quagmyer you guys got going...Terrain is an awesome vehicle. Can't go wrong.

I'd pass the Liberty...only Jeep i'd buy is a Wrangler or the new Grand Cherokee. Thats just me.

Vince

[79PonchoUK]

with out stepping into a USA quagmyer you guys got going...

Vince

Be careful, it's like one of those cartoon scuffles where you get sucked in and nobody is seen for spinning dust. I'm not even american and it got me opinionated. :lol:

[trapin]

absintheisfun...I'm late to chime in here but I think what you're doing is fantastic; that is...you are going out and testing each one of these vehicles to give them a fair chance. This is what ALL consumers should be doing when considering a new car. Of course my vote would be for the Terrain (obviously) but if you decide to go with the FJ Cruiser then I have zero complaints. I don't begrudge people who buy foreign cars, only the ones who do it without at least considering us in the process. That's all a GM employee can ask for...and nothing more.

Good luck in your quest and if you do decide on a Terrian get in touch with me, I think I can do something for ya. :)

[absintheisfun]

well...I turned in my 48 hour BVA on the FJ Cruiser, and went to the GMC dealership only to have them ROYALLY SCREW UP AN EASY POSSIBLE SALE. How do they keep shooting themselves in the foot??? It was the same PIA when I went to get my wife's Saturn (we almost bought new, but man we were there for 4 hours going through BS!!!) Ultimately we got the Saturn at a Honda dealership, and it took a whopping 30 minutes for them to find a vehicle in California with 4K on the clock for $10,000 less than a new one. They appraised our trade and gave us a loaner for 24 hours while they transported the car to Dallas on a car hauler. After a total of 45 minutes, we found a vehicle, traded, signed and drove away.

NOTE TO GM: You guys are making great vehicles again--fire your dealerships!!!!!

Toyota: I call, tell them what I want. Show up, and in 20 total minutes at the dealership, I got an appraisal on my trade and walked out with a key to a 2010 FJ.

GMC: I call, tell them what I want. Show up and after 2 and half hours...yes, TWO HOURS, THIRTY MINUTES of my time haggling with the guy on insignificant crap, and the sales guy coming and going leaving us for 20, 30 minutes at a time (for 2.5 hours, we spent a total of 15 minutes with our sales guy) I finally gave up after an extended 45 minute absense and wrote a note on his business card telling him to call me, because this is rediculous. Never got an appraisal on my trade either.

Been home for an hour now and he has yet to call me and say anything. Guess GM doesn't want my money. Seriously this is lame. I feel so completely cheated on this.

:dunno:

[MrQuick]

Be careful, it's like one of those cartoon scuffles where you get sucked in and nobody is seen for spinning dust. I'm not even american and it got me opinionated. :lol:
I noticed that haaa haaaa haaa.

I know better but sometimes one foot will slide in then I'll rremember where I am.

:thankyou:

vince

[MrQuick]

NOTE TO GM: You guys are making great vehicles again--fire your dealerships!!!!!


:dunno: WTF??? Again. haaaaa

[absintheisfun]

Okay...I called the dealership and spoke with the sales manager, and after about 20 minutes on the phone, I convinced him to let me take a Terrain off of the lot until opening Saturday morning.

I don't think this is the vehicle for me. The red illumination on the dash is a bit much...is this the "left over" from when it was meant to be a Pontiac model, or has GMC had the red for a while?

When you roll down the back windows at 65mph, the weird thunder vibration of wind noise is beyond comprehension! It sounds and feels like there is a rythmic tribal drummer beating on your head and ears!

The engine has plenty of power, but the styling that I loved so much, after a while, seems like the next generation soccer mom's truck.

Tomorrow I'm off to try and get the Jeep Liberty.

[Tony_SS]

EASY POSSIBLE SALE.

I doubt that! Don't take this the wrong way but you sound like a huge PITA customer to deal with. Lol.

Maybe they left you waiting for 30mins hoping you would walk away - but you didn't!

:spank2:

[absintheisfun]

Don't take this the wrong way but you sound like a huge PITA customer to deal with. Lol.


Fair enough but i have the right to be one when Im going to write a check for 30k...only I never saw the sales guy long enough to be a PITA. I'll admit I was one when I called the sales manager, but really I didn't even have a chance to with the sales guy! lol

[black73vette]

I work in sales at a gmc buick dealership and we cant keep these things in stock, esp the 4cyl ones. The people that have bought them really enjoy them, even sold two to the same household. To the guy who had the bad experience at the gm dealership, I hate to hear that and yes, there are some dealerships out there that need to go away.

[MrQuick]

Okay...I called the dealership and spoke with the sales manager, and after about 20 minutes on the phone, I convinced him to let me take a Terrain off of the lot until opening Saturday morning.

I don't think this is the vehicle for me. The red illumination on the dash is a bit much...is this the "left over" from when it was meant to be a Pontiac model, or has GMC had the red for a while? works great at night.


When you roll down the back windows at 65mph, the weird thunder vibration of wind noise is beyond comprehension! It sounds and feels like there is a rythmic tribal drummer beating on your head and ears!
Normal and most cars do it. Some are worst than others.

The engine has plenty of power, but the styling that I loved so much, after a while, seems like the next generation soccer mom's truck.

Tomorrow I'm off to try and get the Jeep Liberty. Good luck with that. LOL
Please make sure you get the extended warranty. too bad they couldn't make the sale.

Vince

[Tony_SS]

Fair enough but i have the right to be one when Im going to write a check for 30k...only I never saw the sales guy long enough to be a PITA. I'll admit I was one when I called the sales manager, but really I didn't even have a chance to with the sales guy! lol

I hear you. You gave them more of a chance than I would've... apparently some salesmen/dealerships don't need the business.

[Chevrolaine]

Normal and most cars do it. Some are worst than others.

Ditto...Our Liberty does the same thing. Pretty aggravating.

[absintheisfun]

Ditto...Our Liberty does the same thing. Pretty aggravating.

I've never owned a 4 door vehicle. This is a new experience to me. It felt as if I was sitting inside a big subwoofer playing massive db's!

[MrQuick]

yep it does suck....my friends Ford Excursion was the worst. my ears would bleed. LOL

[Kenova]

Ditto...Our Liberty does the same thing. Pretty aggravating.
So does my wife's. The window doesn't have to opened very far either.

Ken

[trapin]

Congrats on the new car abs. Although it was not one of our products, I appreciate you considering us in the process and going out to investigate the vehicles yourself. And thanks for the kind words, yes...our vehicles are truly becoming world class right before our eyes. In most cases we are on par with the Japanese and even surpass them.

What happened to you sounds like an issue with your dealership...not GM. Unfortunately this is something that we continue to battle on a daily basis. Dealerships can be hit and miss. I too have dealt with some bad ones but then there are a couple that were great. One of them in particular was Saturn of Warren where we bought my wife's Outlook. They were simply phenomenal and bent over backwards for us. The most pleasant experience I have ever had at a dealership. Unfortunately they are not long for this world due to Saturn being closed. A real shame.

[absintheisfun]

no new car yet. Out of the three, the FJ is winning the fight, but there is some final pondering left to do. Should have something within the next two weeks.

[trapin]

Oh sorry, you threw me with your statement; "walked out with a key to a 2010 FJ."

I will echo what others are stating in that the sonic booms you get when you rolled your rear windows down is common in all 4 door vehicles.

I test drove a Terrain a couple weeks ago for one of our Competitive Validation Reviews and I don't recall any persistant red lights. Can't help you there.

[shudog]

Was excited to read this thread because of the title and I'm planning to get a Terrain for my wife this fall. I've driven the Toyota and it is fun and nice but seems far less refined than the GMC, much more offroadable though if that's what you're looking for. The Liberty seems like a hodgepodge of parts and compromises, trying to do too much and not doing anything very well.

Sorry the original poster had so many problems at the dealership, try not to paint all GMC dealers in a bad light from that experience.

[Nomad_K]

Was excited to read this thread because of the title and I'm planning to get a Terrain for my wife this fall. I've driven the Toyota and it is fun and nice but seems far less refined than the GMC, much more offroadable though if that's what you're looking for. The Liberty seems like a hodgepodge of parts and compromises, trying to do too much and not doing anything very well.

Sorry the original poster had so many problems at the dealership, try not to paint all GMC dealers in a bad light from that experience.

As far as dealers - even Toyota has some rather average ones!

If you want an 'SUV' to perform car like functions, I think that the Terrain and RAV4 are great - I would lean towards the Terrain in that case, if only to try something a bit different. Imho though, the FJ is anything but 'unrefined' - it has simply been refined to achieve meet a different set of goals - off-road capability and reliability being high on the list. Similarly, while I love the Wrangler Rubicon, the FJ feels much more 'refined' on the road in comparison. Horses for courses ... fortunately we have some great vehicles to choose from at the moment.