View Full Version : Frustration over paint matching
Curley
06-16-2010, 08:49 PM
So almost a year ago my wife took some paint off my Camaro with my daily driver. For anyone interested here is the original post.
https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/showthread.php?t=59358
Now winter came and the car sat. Finally I took the car into my painter to see what he could do. Initially he told me that he would try to touch it up and clear the car. If that did not work he would spray the door and all would be perfect. Well, perfect it is not. He tried the touch up and that did not work. He then sprayed the door and the new water based paint did not come close to matching the 20 year old solvent based paint. The new paint is considerably darker that the old paint. The worst part is a rep from PPG has been out three times already and they don't know what to do. Has anyone else run into this? Sorry for the rant I'm just frustrated.
elitecustombody
06-17-2010, 03:46 AM
Why did your painter painted the whole door? There is plenty of room for blend. He should have spent more time matching the paint and doing test spray out to make sure the paint matches or close for a blend.There are few tricks to help making sure the color or blend is good before laying the clear and can be corrected before the clear goes on. I deal with matching color all the time,many times even trying different paintlines ,it's funny that sometimes cheap brand has alot better match than the high dollar stuff.
Happyfunballs
06-17-2010, 04:43 AM
You're trying to match 20 year old paint? It'll never be perfect. Close maybe, never perfect.
elitecustombody
06-17-2010, 07:30 AM
it really doesn't matter how old is the paint, as long as it's still in good condition,obviously it may have lost some color over the years,but it still can be matched, it just takes patience,
venturabeachpup
06-17-2010, 08:19 AM
Sometimes even new paint will not match perfectly. If you stop the paint repair on a straight line, like the edge of a door, the eye will pick it up easily. But if you take some space to blend it, the eye may not cue in on it at all. You may have to repaint the door and blend into the fender and q-panel. ( If I'm understanding your problem correctly. Ask me how I know. LOL)
both Elite and Ventura are correct when color matching its best to blend(overspray lightly) onto surrounding panels about 4-6 inches it fools the eyes
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/06/blending-1.jpg
Spot or panel painting requires a special multi-step application process to ensure a quality blending of the new and old auto paint finishes. This blending process requires we sequentially blend up to three separate applications beyond the original area. A clearcoat is applied to ensure an accurate gloss match and a seamless, durable auto paint repair
Curley
06-17-2010, 09:36 AM
Yeah I was hoping not to blend the car because honestly the car looks great, but in my mind I was going to paint it in the next 5 years. The paint looks great, but I have the infamous 1 gen Camaro rear partial shelf rust problem starting to show again. The car has always been garaged and covered. Only saw rain a few times in the 20 years that I have owned it. The problem was as a stupid kid with no subframe connectors I used to hit second gear hard all the time and the paint cracked in the seams. Then the washing over the last 20 there is no way to get all of the water out, so the rust is just barely starting to show. So I don't see the reason to blend the car and respray half the car in clear only to clear over the rust. So then its replace the shelf, then more blending and by the time is done I might as well spray the whole car. I was frustrated because I did not have the money set aside for a respray right now and I definitely would have waited until winter and not the beginning of summer. Oh well....
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